This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup, Charles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/45.62.63.71.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, it is the same family... Your John Wilson STROUP is the son of Frederick B. STROUP and Amanda CHARLES. Frederick & Amanda STROUP are in the 1860 census of Juniata Co. I don't have their location in the 1870 census, but Amanda shows up as a widow in the 1880 census of Sadsburyville, Chester Co., PA, with a son, John, age 18. Your John Wilson STROUP shows up in the 1900 and 1910 censuses of Sadsbury Twp., Chester Co., PA. What I have is online at my web site in the form of linked family group sheets. You can hook into them from John & Margaret's page: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/JohnWilsonStroup-MargaretHMoore.htm As Jim Burnell mentioned, I am the list admin for the STRAUB-L mailing list at RootsWeb.com. You are invited to join, and you can do so from this page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/s/straub.html STROUP is the most common spelling variation of the original German surname, STRAUB. You may also search the archives of STRAUB-L from this page: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Good hunting.