This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/20.35.37.1 Message Board Post: My grandfather lived in Missouri with his wife Amanda Steele. He used to tell me stories about our Indian heritage. They lived with my Aunt Jessie near Jefferson City, Mo. My fathers name is Clyde E. Stroup. He had several brothers and sisters.Aunt Jessie and Aunt Gladys stayed in Missouri while Bill, Eugene, Pearl and my father stayed in Ill. Grandpa worked at Keystone until retiring and moving back to MO.to live with Aunt Jessie until his death. I have a picture of grandpa's grandfather. I think that his name was Joseph. He also had several sons and one daughter. Our Indian line was Cherokee. Does any of this sound like it matches with your info? E-mail if it does.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/264.1 Message Board Post: Are you referring to Jacob Stroup that lived in Missouri? The Stroups that I come from lived in Missouri and I have a little info but would like more. E-mail if this is the correct Jacob.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Swangel, Swangle, Straub, Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/302.1 Message Board Post: John Charles SWANGEL/SWANGLE remarried 21 Nov 1839 in Harrison Co., OH, to Agnes SUDDETH, so while Elizabeth STROUP had surely died *by* 1839, I wonder if she actually died *in* 1839. John C. SWANGEL appears in the 1840 census of Harrison Co, OH, with a wife (b. 1810-20), who is presumably Agnes SUDDETH. The numbers indicate that John & Elizabeth had had three children (two daughters and a son) born between 1830 and 1835, but no children were born between 1835 and 1840, which suggests Elizabeth may have died as early as 1835/6. The 1840 census also reveals that John was born 1780-90, which means he was in his 40s or 50s when he married Elizabeth, so it's very likely he had had an earlier wife. I can find neither John, nor a widow, Agnes, in the 1850 census. Back then, most people, especially daughters, lived with their parents until they married, so if Elizabeth was married in 1833 in Harrison Co., we might expect to find her parents there in the 1830 and/or 1840 censuses. I can find no STRAUBs/STROUPs/etc. in Harrison Co., OH, in 1830 or in 1840, which, unfortunately, means identifying her parents is likely going to be difficult. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Family group sheet online at: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/JohnCharlesSwangel-_-ElizabethStroup-AgnesSuddeth.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/148.1.2.3 Message Board Post: HI Carol - I am on vacation in Mexico and do not have my Stroup family information with me. I could have something as Jacob & Framey (Frybarger) Stroup are my husbands family in Clermont Co. Ohio. I think I have something on every child, but might not have much. Please contact me at [email protected] through mid May. and then at [email protected] from late May through December. I can't pick up Prodigy e-mail when I'm in Oregon. Please sent me you e-mail address - so I can answer you after I get back in Oregon. Mary Lou Stroup

Hi, I was reviewing some files and found that I have an unconnected Stroup that I need more info on; This is all I have; ELIZABETH STROUP d. 10/1839 in Harrison, Ohio married 1832 JOHN CHARLES SWANGEL in Harrison, Ohio an interesting fact I noticed that a short time after her death, about 2-3 months, John married again. Nancy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup Straub Swangel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/302 Message Board Post: Looking for information on; Elizabeth Stroup b??? d. 1839 (location unknown) m. John Charles Swangel 1/3/1832 in Harrison Ohio. This is all the information I have. I found Elizabeth in a family file provided to me by a family connected to my Straubs/Stroup by marriage. She appears to be unconnected to any other Stroup in the family. Nancy Straub

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Well, John is always a tough one because it must be THE most common German first name, and there were many STRAUB immigrants to PA, so you can never assume any STRAUB/STROUB/STROUP is related. I have a large STRAUB/etc. database: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/EveryNameIndex-Straub-JtoZ.htm but I don't seem to have your John. Do you have his 1850 census record? That would be the first record I would seek out. I have what I think are all STRAUBs in the PA census on my web site: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/PA/PACensusStraub/1850.htm but there is no John who is obviously yours. Can you spot him there? Depending on whether he married before or after the census, he should show up as a newlywed or as still living with his parents. The latter would be ideal because then you'd have his parents identified.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm fairly new at all of this but maybe this is where my John B. Stroup fits in. My John B. Stroup was born 2/5/1830 in Dimmesville Pa. He married Salome Schellenberger (1831 -1899) both burried in Elizabethville Pa. He was a doctor in Elizabethville Pa. (I have more information on his life if you are interested) Children of Dr. John B.Stroup and Salome are J. Calvin Salome Fannie Mary Alice (1855-1940) and Clemment Bryant Stroup (my line) 1864-1934.(druggist) All are burried in Elizabethville Pa. Do you think there is any connection between my John and the one you indicate as a child of Peter and Catherine ? Thanks Karen

Hi, I found some Stroup family info when searching Ohio and PA family and county history archives and thought I'd pass it on in hopes it helps someone. BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES- 1. JACKSON STROUP, farmer and blacksmith, PO Chatham Center, b. March 9, 1822 in Rich Hill Twp., Greene Co., PA, son of SAMUEL and RACHEL (RUSH) STROUP. SAMUEL was a son of THOMAS, of German descent, to whom were born JOHN, GEORGE, MILLIE & LAVINA. JACKSON was a lad of 13 when his parents came West. His father located first in Spencer purchasing land for $5 per acre. He did not remain long on this place and moved considerably before he died, renting land in different areas. He died 1840. He had 9 children;LUCINDA, ELIZA, JACKSON, SILAS, GEORGE, PARKER, OLIVER, MARTIN & PHILLIP. JACKSON m. abt. 1847 DELILAH HAINES of Wooster Ohio. They located in Spencer Twp in 1859. They had 6 children: GEORGE A. GARNER, CHESTER, MARTHA (m. William Maxon), EDMAN AND HARVEY. They were members of M.E. Church. 2. Leonard Steffee m. SALLY STROUP who is the dau. of ADAM AND EVE STROUP, natives of PA. They had on son; Samuel Steffee. 3. MARGARET STROUP m. William King of Coshocton Co., Ohio. They had one son that I know of; Jaco King. Trumbull and Mahoning Counties, Ohio 4. MARIA STROUP m. Daniel Wannamaker at the age of 22, they had one son, JONAS, who was killed at the battle of Perrysville, in the war of 1861-65. He was an orderly sergeant in the 150th Ohio Vol. The first wife of died about 18 months subsequent to her marriage and he then married 2nd wife, Mrs. Matilda Murgerger, widow of Daniel Murgerger. 5. MISS ESTER STROUP, dau of JOHN STROUP of Warren Ohio m. ?? King 3-28-1850 and they had 6 children; MARIA E., WILLIAM H, JOHN F. HARRIET L. CLARA S. AND GEORGE N. They were members of Lutheran Church FYI;;;;; Trumbull and Mahoning Counties, Ohio 1.The first "Pennsylvania Dutch" families came to Southington about 1834-1835. and just a few of them are; DAVID PALM, JONAS HOFFMAN, GEORGE FLICK, SAMUEL STROUP, ISAAC STROCK AND JACOB HOUCK. 2. The German Reformed and Lutheran Church was organized in 1837 with some of the following members; ANDREW STROUP, LAMBERT CAMP, JACOB HOUCK, JONAS HOFFMAN, GIDEON MOYER, WILLIAM SALEM, HENRY CRUMB, ------AHSBAUCH, JOHN MAHNENSMITH, REUBEN FUSSELMAN and others along with their wives and families Enough for now, I'll post more at a later date. Hopes this is of help to one of you. Nancy Straub Holben

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroub, Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm afraid I don't have a John STROUP b. 1816, and I can't find him in the 1850 census. Nor did he show up as head-of-household in Juniata Co., PA, in the 1840 census, so, although he was married at age 24 (in 1840 or 1841), he must have been married after the 1840 census was enumerated. Back then, most children lived with their parents until they married, so we would expect to find John's parents living in Juniata Co., PA, in the 1840 census. The only STROUP/STROUB/STRAUB couple living in Juniata Co. in 1840 that is old enough to be John's parents are Peter STROUB/STROUP (b. 1799) and his wife, Catherine (b. 1797/8). http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/PeterStroub-Catherine_.htm >From Peter's will (1847), we know they had a son, John, but based on the numerical data, there is no child born before 1820 in their household in either the 1830 or 1840 census -- but then, the census is not entirely dependable. It seems a distinct possibility to me that your John might be the son of Peter & Catherine (__?__) STROUB/STROUP. If you could find your John living near any of Peter & Catherine's other children in later censuses, it would be strongly supportive that he is their sibling. Children of Peter & Catherine were: Samuel STROUP, b. 1820; m. Sarah __?__; 1850/60/70 census, Juniata Co., PA; 1880 Census, St. Joseph Co., IN Nathan STROUP, b. 1821/2; m. Nancy __?__; 1850 census, Juniata Co., PA Peter STROUP, b. 1825/6; m. Catherine __?__; 1850 Census, Juniata Co., PA John STROUP, b. 18?? Daughters (b. 1820-40): Catherine, Susannah, Elizabeth, Mary Jane Samuel obviously did not "go west," but Nathan or Peter (or any of the sisters) might have. You really need to find John & Mary in the 1850/60/70/80 and 1900 censuses and look for any other STRAUB/STROUB/STROUPs living nearby -- also, for any ALBRIGHTs, who may be easier to find because their name is less likely to be misspelled in the indices. Do you know the names of Mary (ALBRIGHT) STROUP's parents or siblings? Do you know where, even roughly, John & Mary were in any of the censuses?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13.1.1 Message Board Post: >From John's obit: John b 1816, m Miss Mary Albright when he was 24 years old. After four years residence in Juniata county during which their daughter (listed as Margaret in John's obit) was born, they decided to cast their fortune in then what was call the far West. oops, almost missed this: Margaret inter-married Samuel Neff and has children, unknown at this time. From Mary's will. Margaretta was b: 18 Jun 1842, d: 1929. Records show that she lived at Topeka, Kansas and was listed as Margaretta and Margaret Stroup in Mary's will in 1903 . Hope this is a connection for you, I have most of the John Stroup family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROUP Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13.1 Message Board Post: I cannot find John & Mary or Margaretta STROUP in the 1850 census anywhere in PA. Do you know where they were in the 1850 census? Are you certain Margaretta was born in Juniata Co., PA?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/6.13 Message Board Post: Have a Margaretta Stroup born 18 jan 1842 Juniata County, Pa. daughter of John Stroup and Mary Albright. She was a Doctor of homeopathic medicine. Don't know too much more on her, but do have some family info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/48.51.59.60.68.1 Message Board Post: Don't have a Phillip Stroup, but do have a Charles P. Stroup born 1857 Keokuk County Iowa. His father John Stroup born 11 Oct 1816 Juniata County Pennsylvania which probably was Mifflin county in 1803. John and family came west to Iowa Territory about 1842 with the Singmaster party.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Staub/Straub/Straup/Stroup and Ford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/182.202.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Fran Stroup and I are cousins (first, once removed!). Our ancestor Frederick Stroup (b. 1844) was one of the sons of Peter K. Stroup (Misspelled "Staub" in the 1850 Chapman, Union Co--now Snyder Co--PA census.) The youngest child in the 1850 census is listed as "Anna" but is actually "Emma." We have an article from 1939 in Michigan interviewing her about the pioneer days (on the occasion of her 89th birthday). She said she was born in Union Co, PA, near Liverpool (which Chapman is). She remembered passing through Grand Rapids, MI, in a covered wagon, in 1863, where her father stopped to buy supplies. He later homesteaded in the area which is now Lake Co, MI. Peter K. "Straup" received a land grant in 1870 for Chase, Lake Co, MI. And Frederick received a land grant in 1871 in the same area. Both appear in the Lake Co 1870 census, one right after the other in Chase. The family seems to have consistently spelled their name "Straup" in Michigan. But Frederick's Union Army records spell the name as "Stroup" and this is the spelling he adopted when he moved on with his own family to Kansas in the 1880's. Frederick had a brother Lewis (b.1854). There is a Lewis Straup of the right age in the Green, Mecosta Co, MI census of 1870. He was listed as a student and was living with Felix (age 57) and Lydia (age 51 or 54) "Ekias" or "Eklas" or some variant on that spelling. Both were born in Pennsylvania. Frederick had an aunt Lydia (and also an aunt Kate). It looks like Peter probably left Lewis in Green (perhaps with his aunt Lydia?) to finish school while he went on to homestead in what was later called Chase in Lake Co, MI. Chase isn't too far from Green--they both used the Paris post office. There are interesting multiple connections between the Straups and the Ford family in Mecosta Co. Peter had been listed in the 1850 Union Co PA census as married to Martha. But on Dec 3, 1863, he married Amanda Ford in Mecosta Co. A few months earlier his daughter Elizabeth married Ira Lee Ford in Green, Mecosta Co. Ira Lee Ford was Amanda's brother. Then, when Frederick was discharged from the Union Army he came to Michigan and married Ira Lee Ford's daughter, Henrietta, in the same area in 1868. (They're listed as marrying in Osceola Co rather than Mecosta Co, but it turns out that the Mecosta and Osceola Co lines changed around that time.) Then Lewis Stroup, Peter's son and Frederick's brother, married Lucetta Ford, who was a niece of Ira Lee Ford. Lewis and Lucetta had apparently gone to school together in Green. Back to Peter K Staub/Straub/Straup/Stroup. He is listed in the 1850 census as having been born in Pennsylvania, as was his wife Martha. But I have no info on her maiden name or on where in PA they were born. There was a Margaret Neiman, age 82, also living in the household in 1850. So I'm wondering if she was Martha's mother or Peter or Martha's grandmother. (And of course her name could have been misspelled also.) By the way, Peter and Amanda Ford Stroup had two children on the 1870 census: Willmetta age 3 and Delmore age 1. Amanda was born in "Canada West." Peter is not listed in the 1880 census in Chase. I hope this info gives other people some clues. And I'd love to have some clues about Peter K's origins, parents, etc., and those of his (first?) wife, Martha. I wonder if Peter was related to the Straub's who founded Straubville, which is now called Freeburg, north of Chapman, in the Washington Township area of Union/Snyder Co. It is thought that these Straubs originally came from Freiburg in what is now Germany.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/182.202.1.2.1 Message Board Post: If Frederick was born in 1844 in Union Co., PA, then we would expect to find him in the household of his parents in the 1850 census. There are two potential candidates in the 1850 census of PA, both in Chapman Twp., Union [now Snyder] Co.: 1) Frederick (ae 7, b. PA) in the household of Peter R. STRAUB (ae 36, b. PA). 2) Frederick (ae 6, b. PA) in the household of widow Mary STRAUB (ae 45, b. PA). There are no other Frederick STRAUB/STROUP's in any PA county in 1850 anywhere near age six. As I understand it, your Frederick is Frederick Whistler STRAUB/STROUP, b. Apr 1844 in Union Co., PA, who married Henrietta FORD and fought in the Civil War in the 44th Indiana Infantry. The other Frederick STRAUB/STROUP was born 24 Mar 1844 in Union Co., PA, and married first Rebecca Jane GLASS/GLASE/GLACE, whom he divorced 4 Oct 1882, then married second Rosa L. HAHN on 17 Oct 1882. He fought in the Civil War in Co. J, 53rd Pennsylvania Volunteers. The question, of course, is which parents go with which Frederick? Do you know the identities of any of your Frederick's siblings? Have you found him living near any other STRAUBs/STROUPs in his adult life? Based on the 1850 Census, Peter's children were Washington (17), Elizabeth (11), Benjamin (9), Fredrick (7), Sarah (5), Henry (3), and Anna (10 m); and Mary's children were Eliza (17), Rebecca (16), Solomon (12), Jeremiah (10), West (8), Frederick (6), and Lydia (8 m). It would obviously be helpful to find both Fredericks in the 1860 census. And if anyone knows the late husband of widow Mary and/or her maiden name, I'd greatly appreciate knowing. As for the name change from STRAUB to STROUP, it's an Anglicized phonetic misspelling. STROUP is *the* most common variation of the German/Swiss surname STRAUB/STRAUBE. These were illiterate farmers; they didn't know how to spell their name. It got written down however the particular clerk or census-enumerator happened to feel like spelling it. For a great many STRAUBs, the misspelling stuck.

Hi, I have been searching for and was told that My Straub family line doesn't have a family bible. Rev. Benjamin Straub/Stroup b. 1802 place;????? and Elizabeth Hoss/Haas Straub We think and he probably was born in PA and need proof of this and proof of who his parents are. There is a Benjamin Straub family bible but it relates to the other Benjamin who was born the same year or 1 year difference and died 1 year apart. If I remember right this one belongs to Shirley but could be mistaken about that. Anyway, about 8 months ago I was speaking with Marilyn who is connected to my Straub line my marriage and her family line is Plotts. She is very nice and helpful with anything. She told me that she wasn't sure if there is one but made a request to the person who would have it if it exists and they told her that they were not interested in family genealogy and basically told her where to go. In going through the civil war pension file for my GreatGreat Uncle Sheldon Palmer Straub (I been through this file at least 50 times and missed this before tonight), I ran across a statement from Sheldon to the commissioners of Pension and it reads; Hartford, Mich., Feb 18, 1914 Dear Sir: I am 70 years old today (my note; they didn't agree with his year of birth and they were haggling over the dollar amount of his pension), Born Feb 18th, 1844 ACCORDING TO OUR OLD FAMILY BIBLE WHICH HAS BEEN IN THE FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS. I am now entitled to an increase in my pension from $17.00 to $23.00. Very Truly Sheldon P; Straub Private Co., L 1st Ohio Vol HA cert #769086 I know the bible is not in the hands of his wives (Mary Bolger Straub) family because she has been in the state mental hospital at Kalamazoo, MI from around the early 1900s till his or her death. Sheldon's son Sheldon Parker Straub married Lillian May Conklin in Hartford, Van Buren Co., Mi so I believe it is with this side of the family. The family line including my Sheldon can be found at the Meachum Family web page. I have contacted Virginia Meachum 4 times over the past year, even before I new of the family bible and have not received any response. I need any help form any of you if you know Virginia Meachum or anyone in that family tree that may be willing to pled my case for the info in the bible. I don't want the bible just the info. Thanks for any thing that can be done to help Nancy Straub Holben

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/48.51.59.60.68 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on my great, great grandfather, Phillip Stroup, who was born in 1803 (according to his tombstone). Oral history says his family came from Mifflin Co. or Township in PA. Do you show anyone by that name born in that time frame?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/80.93.98.195 Message Board Post: Do you have a Phillip Stroub (or Straub) born in 1803 on any of your records - or any of his children. My Great grandfather, James, was his son and he was born in 1840 in Millcreek Township (town of Fisher) in what is now Clarion Co.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/301.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks a lot. That explains a lot - I hadn't seen that name ever mentioned among my papers (wills, death notices, etc.). If you ever see anything regarding a Phillip Stroup (or Straub) born in 1803 please let me know. He was my Great, Great Grandfather and that's as far back as I have been able to identify. I know the census listing him as "Straub" is correct because it lists his son born in 1840 as James, and that is my great grandfather. My great grandfather was born in Millcreek Township, the town of Fisher, in what is now Clarion Co. I know his father (from the tombstone) was born in 1803 but doesn't say where. Oral tradition from there said Phillip's family came from Mifflin Township. Any help would be appreciated.