I'm afraid my coding of the German letter S-Zett (double-S) got slaughtered in the transmission. If you own a DOS/Windows computer, you can call forth the letter by using the numerical keypad. Hold down the Alt Key, then type 0223 on the numerical keypad. It won't work with the numbers above the letter-keys. Be sure your Numlock is ON. It also won't work with some fonts, but it works with the common, standard ones. In a few minutes, I'll be putting up a web page to give examples of the letter. The URL will be: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/S-Zett.htm Sorry for the mixup. By the way, does anyone know how to put Alt-0223 (German double-s) in an email so it comes out German double-s? I thought ANSI Codes were more-or-less universal. What about using an ASCII code. Here, I'll test it: ß There, that was the ASCII code for German double-s, which is Alt-225. Did it work? Diana

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup, Strauß, Strauss Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/45.62.63.64.1 Message Board Post: Yes, in America there are many phonetic misspellings of the original German/German-Swiss surname STRAUB -- and of all German surnames -- primarily because most of our German ancestors arrived here as illiterate farmers. They had no idea how to spell their own names, even in German. How their name got written down depended on the skill and diligence of some English-speaking clerk, who may very well have been barely literate himself. By far the most common variation that descendants of STRAUB have adopted is STROUP. The next most common is probably STROUB. My own grandfather spelled his name two ways, STROUB and STRAUB, as did his grandfather -- and both were literate. All of his descendants spell it STRAUB (and pronounce it STRAWB). And, of course, the number of misreadings of STRAUB and STROUP by indexers and transcribers is even greater than the number of phonetic misspellings! However, I'm afraid I have to disagree that there is any connection between STRAUB and STRAUSS... The letters "S" and "B" are definitely not interchangeable in German. In English and German, the letter "B" is equivalent. I'm afraid you are confusing the German letter "ß" (called "ess-tset") with English "B", which letters are not equivalent. German "ß" is equivalent to English "ss" which is why you will see "STRAUSS" spelled "STRAUß," but you will never see "STRAUB" spelled "STRAUß," except by someone who doesn't know German. STRAUSS is not English for STRAUB, it is English for STRAUß. If there is any name that is an Anglicized version of STRAUB, it is STROUP. If you are aware that the German surname was not pronounced STRAWB, but STROWB (the vowel rhymes with sow, not sob), then you will understand why STROUP was the most common Anglicized version of STRAUB. Note that, initially, STROUP was almost certainly pronounced "STROWP." Over time, the pronunciation STROWP became STROOP (and STROWB became STRAWB). Bottom line is... there is no connection between surnames STRAUB and STRAUSS. Neither surname is derived from the other because no German would ever confuse "B" and "ß." And no German or English-speaker would confuse the two when spoken because STRAUB and STRAUSS don't sound alike. The only possible place for confusion is an English-speaking person copying the surname from a document *written* in German, though I have yet to run across such an instance in historical records because an English-speaking clerk is not likely to even attempt to read or copy a document written in German. Sorry to have to disagree, but I think it's important to clear this up. For further discussion on the general issue of spelling, please see this web page: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/Misc/Common/Spelling.htm Also, I apologize for the inconvenience, but the URL to my genealogy web site has changed to: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/index.htm Good hunting.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup, Charles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/45.62.63.71.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, it is the same family... Your John Wilson STROUP is the son of Frederick B. STROUP and Amanda CHARLES. Frederick & Amanda STROUP are in the 1860 census of Juniata Co. I don't have their location in the 1870 census, but Amanda shows up as a widow in the 1880 census of Sadsburyville, Chester Co., PA, with a son, John, age 18. Your John Wilson STROUP shows up in the 1900 and 1910 censuses of Sadsbury Twp., Chester Co., PA. What I have is online at my web site in the form of linked family group sheets. You can hook into them from John & Margaret's page: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/JohnWilsonStroup-MargaretHMoore.htm As Jim Burnell mentioned, I am the list admin for the STRAUB-L mailing list at RootsWeb.com. You are invited to join, and you can do so from this page: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/s/straub.html STROUP is the most common spelling variation of the original German surname, STRAUB. You may also search the archives of STRAUB-L from this page: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Good hunting.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/45.62.63.71.1 Message Board Post: It sounds as if we are researching the same family. My husband's grandfather, John Wilson Stroup, was born 12-15-1861 in Juniata, Pa. He married Margaret H. Moore, of Philadelphia born 5-27-1865 on 3-21-1884 the daughter of William Moore and Martha Hazlton (?). They had 9 children and lived in Parkesburg, Pa. I have no clue beyond that. John Wilson Stroup's parents are unknown. Do you have any information to help?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROUP(E), ROGERS, THOMPSON, OBRIEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/141.149.159.1.1 Message Board Post: I have been searching for my Gr grandmother Adalaide (STROUPE) ROGERS and I suspect she may have been from Venango County, PA. I would appreciate if you could check in your book for her name as she has been very hard to locate in the records available to me. Will share information. Don Thompson Whittier, CA [email protected]

I would certainly be interested in the book reference to the Stroups from Venango County. I too have been trying to untangle our ancestry. There were a lot of us. Thanks, Kenneth Stroup ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 8:56 PM Subject: [STROUP] Re: Stroups in Venango Pa > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Stroup, Straub, Rhodes > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/141.149.159.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I too am also related to Straubs/Stroups from Venango Co., PA. My great-great grandmother was Dora Mae STROUP Rhodes. I have a book called the "Threads of Venango that traces the Stroup line back about 8 generations if you are interested. Please email me. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 4/28/02 9:27:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I am a 7th gen great-granddaughter of Johann Peter Straub the II. Can I get > in on this information sharing? I would really appreciate it!!! > > > Would be happy to share what I can. What facts are you missing?

In a message dated 4/28/02 8:57:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I too am also related to Straubs/Stroups from Venango Co., PA. My > great-great grandmother was Dora Mae STROUP Rhodes. I have a book called > the "Threads of Venango that traces the Stroup line back about 8 > generations if you are interested. Please email me. > > > I would love to see that book. My great grandfather was Samuel Stroup. He married Nancy Bollinger.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/110.127 Message Board Post: I am a 7th gen great-granddaughter of Johann Peter Straub the II. Can I get in on this information sharing? I would really appreciate it!!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup, Straub, Rhodes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/141.149.159.1 Message Board Post: I too am also related to Straubs/Stroups from Venango Co., PA. My great-great grandmother was Dora Mae STROUP Rhodes. I have a book called the "Threads of Venango that traces the Stroup line back about 8 generations if you are interested. Please email me.

Where was your Myrtle May Stroup located? Mine was in MO

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/153.154.1.1 Message Board Post: Idon't really know, grandpa was born may 4, 1880, and he had a brother, but that is all i know, e-mail me at [email protected], i will ask my aunt..thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/307 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Myrtle MAe Stroup Any would be appreciated

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Straub, Stroup Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/306.2 Message Board Post: I don't have anything on STRAUB/STROUP from Clinton Co., OH, but I do have a little on them from Highland Co., OH. What I have is available from my web site. There are every-name indices and a search engine on the home page: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/StraubHome.htm A search on +highland +oh will pull up any Highland Co., OH, records I have.

I would be interested in that book also, Martha Mary Stroup m. Andrew Shaffer and they both are buried in Highland county, old dutch cemetery. regards Peggy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: [STROUP] Stroups of Ohio >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Stroup Rankin >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/306 > >Message Board Post: > >Hello, > >I'm looking for information on the Stroups of Ohio, in Clinton and Highland counties. They are related to the Rankin family of the same area. > >I'm also looking for a copy of a book: "Stroup, Peter (Straub) Stroup of Freiburg, Baden, Germany and Pennsylvania, and his descendants" by Mrs. Floyd Stroup. I will gladly accept a photocopy! > >Sincerely, Brian Rankin > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup, straub Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/306.1 Message Board Post: Brian, The Venango Co Pa Gen site has a lot of Stroups, some of which moved on to Ohio. If you can't find their web site E mail me at [email protected] and I'll send the URL. Also, the Peter Straub you are looking for is probably Johann Peter Straub or Johann Peter Straub II. Good luck. Dennis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stroup Rankin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/306 Message Board Post: Hello, I'm looking for information on the Stroups of Ohio, in Clinton and Highland counties. They are related to the Rankin family of the same area. I'm also looking for a copy of a book: "Stroup, Peter (Straub) Stroup of Freiburg, Baden, Germany and Pennsylvania, and his descendants" by Mrs. Floyd Stroup. I will gladly accept a photocopy! Sincerely, Brian Rankin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/302.2 Message Board Post: Nancy, I am descended through Johan/Elizabeth Stroup Swangel/Swangle, and their daughter Sarah Ann who married James Cloice Johnson. We believe their were 3 children from that marriage, Sarah, Benjamin, and I found a Nancy who married A. Orrison. Please email me [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROUP Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0IQBAEB/210.237.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Below is my STROUP info: 1 Martha Catherine STROUP. Born on 11 Jan 1793 in Lincoln County, NC. Martha Catherine died in Waleska, GA on 11 Feb 1876, she was 83. In 1820 when Martha Catherine was 26, she married James STRAIN. 2 Jacob David STROUP. Born on 18 Mar 1771 in Lincoln County, NC. Jacob David died in Cass (now Bartow) County, GA on 8 Nov 1846, he was 75. Buried in Allatoona, Cass (now Bartow) County, GA (Goodson Cemetary). Occupation: Part owner with his brother Jacob an iron foundry at Stamp Creek near Allatoona in Bartow County, GA. On 25 Aug 1790 when Jacob David was 19, he married Elizabeth "Betsy" DELLINGER, in Lincoln County, NC. 3 Elizabeth "Betsy" DELLINGER. Born in 1775 in Lincoln County, NC. Elizabeth "Betsy" died in Lincoln County, NC in 1809, she was 34. 4 Adam STROUP. Born in 1746 in Major's Choice, Baltimore Cty, MD. Adam died in Saylors Branch, Hoyle's Creek, Lincoln County, NC in 1834, he was 88. In 1768 when Adam was 22, he married Catherine REEL. 5 Catherine REEL. Born in 1750 in PA. Catherine died in Lincoln County, NC in 1811, she was 61. 6 Henry DELLINGER. Born in 1740 in Germany. Henry died in Lincoln County, NC on 15 Feb 1820, he was 80. In 1760 when Henry was 20, he married Hannah Johanna RUDISILL, in Mecklenburg, NC. 7 Hannah Johanna RUDISILL. Born on 28 Dec 1740 in Codorus, York, PA. Hannah Johanna died in Lincoln County, NC in 1785, she was 44. Buried in Smith Cemetary, Magnoliaa Grove. 8 Jacob STROUP. Born on 8 Nov 1724 in MD. Jacob died in Lincoln County, NC in Dec 1804, he was 80. In 1745 when Jacob was 20, he married Maria Catherina FRENSCH, in Baltimore County, MD. 9 Maria Catherina FRENSCH. Maria Catherina died in 1751. 10 Johan George REEL. Johan George married Catherine SNAPP. 11 Catherine SNAPP. 12 John Phillip DELLINGER. Born abt 1720 in Germany. John Phillip died in Lincoln County, NC in 1802, he was 82. Occupation: Tailor. In 1740 when John Phillip was 20, he married Margaret TANKERSLEY, in Lincoln County, NC. 13 Margaret TANKERSLEY. 14 Weyrich Norrente RUDISILL. Born on 7 Aug 1695 in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany. Weyrich Norrente died in Lincoln County, NC abt 1764, he was 68. Weyrich Norrente married Anne Barbara SIEGFRIED. 15 Anne Barbara SIEGFRIED. Born on 13 Sep 1718 in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany. 16 Adam STROUP. Born in 1698. Adam died in 1780, he was 82. 28 Hans Jakob RUDISUHLE. Born on 4 Oct 1666 in Michelfeld, Karls, Baden, Germany. Hans Jakob died in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany on 16 Sep 1748, he was 81. On 19 Feb 1688 when Hans Jakob was 21, he married Cleope NEFF, in Michelfeld, Karls, Baden, Germany. 29 Cleope NEFF. 32 Matthias STROUP. Born in 1660. Matthias died in 1740, he was 80. Matthias married Hanna. 33 Hanna. Born in 1666. 56 Hans RUDISILE. Born in 1645 in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany. Hans died in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany on 26 May 1723, he was 78. Buried in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany. On 30 Jan 1666 when Hans was 21, he married Anna LIEBEL, in Michelfeld, Baden, Germany. 57 Anna LIEBEL. 112 Hanns RUDISILL.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STROUP, HENDERSON, COLVIN Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0IQBAEB/148.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry I could not be of help with Elizabeth Stroup. I lived in Brown Co., Oh. and it borders Highland Co. where my family setteled when they came from Pa. or Md. Perhaps you can look into Anthony or Michael (brothers) Stroup. Their families are well documented as they came to Highland Co., Oh. about 1800's.