To All, and especially Jerry L'Estrange (see answer #1) and Martha Strong (see answer #7) who might find a few details in the below message interesting: My apologies to all; I did not notice that the subject line on this message read "Re: 18th October 1998", when it went out last evening.... so, I am resending it just to be sure those who scan messages just for subject matter will catch the content... Regards, David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: DBS &/or MD <[email protected]> To: davidleahy <[email protected]> Cc: .....STRONG-List <[email protected]> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 9:14 PM Subject: Re: 18th October 1998 >To David Leahy: > >Thank you for sharing your information with me. I am taking the liberty of >forwarding this information to the Rootsweb Strong-List, so that I may pass >it along to other interested researchers. Please note that I have recently >updated my links page, and added your URL along with others at the time: > >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/links.html > >We do appreciate your help! > >Regards, >David B. "Dave" Strong >Email: [email protected] >Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 > >************************** >-----Original Message----- >From: davidleahy <[email protected]> >To: David Strong <[email protected]> >Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 9:08 PM >Subject: 18th October 1998 > >>To: David B. Strong. >>e-mail: [email protected] >>Webpage: www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/7530 >>Date: 18th October 1998 >> >>From: David Leahy, Glack, Park Road, Longford, Ireland >>e-mail: [email protected] >>Webpage: http://homepage.tinet.ie/~daveleahy/ >> >>Dear David, >> >>I received your e-mail of September the 7th. Sorry for the delay in >replying. (Answer #1): I have come across the >>following references to the Strong surname: >> >>Irish Names and Surnames by Rev. Patrick Woulfe >> >>Strong, Stronng - Strong, Stronge, Strange, Old Eng. 'Strang', Mid Eng. >'Stronge', 'Strange' i.e. strong, >>powerful - a descriptive surname. There were old respectable families of >this name in the Cities of >>Kilkenny and Waterford. >> >>I have also searched my records for L'Estrange, Lestrange, Strang and >Strange references and came up >>with the following: >> >>Tithe Applotment Books c1830 and Griffith's Primary Valuation of 1854 for >Co. Longford - NO >>references. >> >>In the 1901 Census I came across the following: >> >>Cooleeny Townland (Td.), Longford Rural District Electoral Division (DED), >Longford Parish (Ph.), >>County Longford: (Ref. 53/18/11): >> >>Maggie Farrell, Aged 55, Widow, born in Co. Westmeath, RC >>Maggie L'Estrange, Aged 17, niece, born in Co. Westmeath, RC >> >>Abbeycartron Td., Longford Urban No. 2 DED, Longford Ph., County Longford: >(Ref. 55/1/16): >> >>James Strang, Aged 64, married, born in Scotland, Presbyterian >>Mary Strang, Aged 44, married, wife, born in Scotland, Presbyterian >> >>Bridge Street, Longford Town, Longford Urban No. 2 DED, Longford Ph., >County Longford: (Ref. >>55/2/18): >> >>James Strange, Aged 46, married, born in Co. Antrim >>Margaret Strange, Aged 46, wife, >>James Strange, Aged 11, son >>Robert (Ihalfall/Ihatford) Strange, Aged 9, son >>Census Search Forms (1841/1851): >> >>Annie Murtagh applied for the Old Age Pension on 10th September 1917. >>Gave her address as Mrs Annie Sheridan, Trimalough, Moyne, Co. Cavan. >>Stated her parents names as James and Margaret (Strange) Murtagh.. >> >>Stated she was living at Enaghan, Killoe Ph., Granard Barony, Co. Longford >in 1851. >> >>The above covers Question 1 in your e-mail of 7th September. - ---------------------------- >>Answer 2: The descriptions of the Religions in the 1834 Census of Granard >Parish are as follows: >>Roman Catholic, Church of Ireland (or Protestant) and Presbyterian. The >Protestant description would >>also include Church of England, Ireland and Scotland I presume. ------------ >>Answer 3: Charleton Charitable Fund Marriages (c1800 - 1860): >> >>This scheme was inaugurated by Thomas Charleton, a well to do bachelor >landowner in Counties >>Longford and Meath, in the 19th Century. In his will he stipulated that >couples getting married in >>Counties Longford and Meath should benefit from his estate. The dividends >of his investments are >>available in the form of the Charleton Charitable Grant for couples >planning to marry and depends on >>the number of applicants in both Counties. They relate mainly to labourers >and servants from Counties >>Longford and Meath. The men/ladies were supposed to have been between 15 >and 30 / and 15 and 40. --------------------- >>Answer 4: There was no mention of any Strongs etc. in the Flaxgrowers List >of 1796 although an >>Alexander Strling (Probably Sterling but perhaps Strong) was recorded in >Granard Barony. ---------------------------- >>Answer 5: Cartron Townland is located approximately one mile south of >Granard Town and is a >>totally different Townland from Cartronamarkey Townland which is located >approximately two miles >>north-west of Granard Town. -------------------------- >>Answer 6: I'd say that the Strongs were established in Co. Longford c1700 >as I see in the Marriage >>Licence Bond records that a William Strong married a Margaret Majore in >1706. The Major surname is >>to be found in later Co. Longford records at Cartron Townland and Granard >Parish in general. Another >>interesting MLB marriage, that of Thomas Stronge and Alice Pointain of >1707, indicates a possible Co. >>Longford connection as the surname Poynton appears in various Co. Longford >records as early as >>1710. The Haltan / Holton surname also appears in early Co. Longford >records and so the Thomas >>Strong and Katherine Haltan record may have referred to a County Longford >couple. --------------------- >>Answer 7: The surnames Greville, Lewis and Maude are presumably English >and perhaps of French >>origin in the case of the former and latter at an earlier date. In 1876 the >following persons of these >>surnames are recorded as landowners in County Longford: >> >>Algernon W. B. Greville, 45 Sussex Gardens, London, 8,811 Acres, 3 Roods >and 36 Perches. >>Lord Greville, Clonyn, Delvin (Co. Westmeath) 1,236 Acres, 3 >Roods and 23 Perches >>Edward Lewis, Violetstown, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath 351 Acres, 2 Roods >and 38 Perches >>Henry Owen Lewis, 19 Seymour St., W, London 522 Acres, 2 >Roods and 17 Perches >>Rev. Samuel Lewis, Carrick-on-Shannon, Co. Leitrim 15 Acres, 2 >Roods and 30 Perches >>Captain Francis Maude, Onslow Square, London 1,235 Acres, 3 >Roods and 15 Perches >> >>Richard Greville was the fourth largest landowner in County Longford with >8,877 Acres in 1854. >>Baron Greville was residing at Clonhugh, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath c1900. >The Grevilles originate >>from a John Greville of Campden, Co. Gloucester, England in the 1300's. I hope the above helps to answer some of the queries and if I can be of any further help or assistance please let me know, >>Yours Sincerely, David Leahy