Hello David Leahy! Thank You very much for your message of Sunday, Sept 6, 1998, reproduced below. I am taking the liberty of forwarding this message to the Rootsweb Strong-List, as well as a short list of other researchers (some of whom I know to be specifically interested in the Strongs of County Longford, Ireland). I will be pleased to add the data you have provided to the Irish Strong Database, and will do so in a future update. I will also endeavor to include a link to your website on my website. I truely wish we could find more researchers like yourself in the remaining counties of Ireland... your data is quite extensive and welcome! I have a few questions, for which I hope you will be kind enough to supply answers: 1) I note that each of your records relates to the surname STRONG. Perchance, did you also check the variant surnames, STRONGE, STRANG, STRANGE, LESTRANGE? If there are any positive results for these surnames, I would appreciate including them in the Data Base as well. Note that I try to include a "negative report" in the Data Base if these names are NOT to be found in the original records. 2) Under the 1834 Census heading, you have included "prot" as the religion of the individuals listed. Is that how the original census listed the individuals, or was it possibly more specific and included indications of "Church of Ireland", "Presbyterian", "Methodist", and the like? Note, I believe most of the County Longford Strongs were Church of Ireland, although I am aware of some conversions to Catholicism. 3) What is a "Charitable Fund" Marriage? 4) Have you checked the Flax-Growers Bounty Lists? 5) I note both "Carton" and "Cartonamarkey" townlands listed for various records.... Are these different townlands, or is the first a shortened version of the second? 6) I note that there are records of Strongs in Longford back to about 1706, which surprised me a little, although on a second look I see that these records of Ardagh and Kilmore Marriage Licence Bonds 1697 - 1844 might relate to County Cavan as well as County Longford. (I had thought perhaps the Longford Strongs might have resulted from a migration from neighboring Counties Cavan and Monaghan). Can you give any insight into the history of these counties in the period 1600-1750, which might help us trace the origins of these Strongs? Longford, Cavan and Monaghan were not part of the plantation scheme in Ulster... Could these Strongs have been descended from soldiers given military land grants in compensation for services in the English Civil War era??? 7) I note that Richard Greville, Lt. Col. Arthur G. Lewis, and Hon. Capt. F. Maude are listed as Landlords in the Griffiths Valuation data you have provided. Their names seem to be English in origin.... do you have any insights into WHERE in England these landlords might have originated; how their families came into landowner-ship in County Longford; and the location of any estate leasing records which may be available reference the Strongs tenanting under them? I look forward to your response! Very Sincerely... David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 ******************** -----Original Message----- From: davidleahy <[email protected]> To: David Strong <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 06, 1998 8:17 PM Subject: 6th September 1998 >To: David B. Strong. >e-mail: [email protected] >Webpage: >Date: 6th September 1998 > >From: David Leahy, Glack, Park Road, Longford, Ireland >e-mail: [email protected] >Webpage: http://homepage.tinet.ie/~daveleahy/ > >Dear David, > >I have just discovered your website on the Internet and must congratulate you on all the Strong >information you have collected from all over Ireland, even though your ancestors seem to have hailed >from County Donegal. I am enclosing information on the County Longford Strongs which you may >wish to add to your database. > >I note that you have also referenced my 1901 County Longford Census Index in your database records >and would like to inform you that I have now published an index to Griffith's Primary Valuation of >County Longford (1854) under the title 'Co. Longford Survivors of the Great Famine - a complete >index to Griffith's Primary Valuation of Co. Longford (1854)'. > >This book can be purchased for US$35 (including postage). It includes a very useful one inch to one >mile map of the County showing the locations of all 893 townlands it contains, which are also indexed >in the book. As you can see from the above address I have set up my own website which I hope to >expand to include some of the County Longford genealogical information I have been able to collect >over the past twelve years. > >I would also be grateful if you could refer to my website in your own Strong website. > >Yours Sincerely, > >_______________ >David Leahy ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Ardagh and Kilmore >Marriage Licence Bonds 1697 - 1844: >Strong Ann Strong William 1747 >Strong Harriett Mee Edward 1843 >Strong Henry Lahy Mary 1751 >Strong James McDowell Mary 1729 >Strong Jane Blakely Thomas 1842 >Strong Jane Mee Martin 1766 >Strong John St. John Mary 1715 >Strong Mary Cole John 1773 >Strong Sidney Akins Mathew 1727 >Strong Thomas Haltan Katherine 1713 >Strong William Majore Margaret 1706 >Strong William Strong Ann 1747 >Stronge Thomas Pointain Alice 1707 > >Could be anywhere in Cos. Longford or Cavan. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOKS OF COUNTY LONGFORD: > >NAME TOWNLAND Civil Parish YEAR >John Strong (2) Cartronamarkey Abbeylara 1823 >John Strong Ballybrien Granard 1823 >William Strong Cloghchurnel Granard 1823 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Census of Granard Parish 18th December 1834: >Record Number Name Townland Religion >4331 Strong, John Ballybrien Prot >4332 Strong, Billy (fem) Ballybrien Prot >4333 Strong, William Ballybrien Prot >4334 Strong, Oliver Ballybrien Prot >4335 Strong, John Ballybrien Prot >4336 Strong, Henry Ballybrien Prot >4337 Strong, Robert Ballybrien Prot >4338 Strong, George Ballybrien Prot >4339 Strong, Simon Ballybrien Prot >4340 Strong, Jane Ballybrien Prot >4341 Strong, Mary Ballybrien Prot >4342 Strong, Elizabeth Ballybrien Prot > >Unfortunately no relationships are given, nor ages. The above may relate to a single or more than one >Strong family. Maybe not a complete listing as I have not fully completed collecting this source > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Charleton Charitable Fund Marriages (c1800 - 1860): > >Husband Address Father Married Wife Father Applied/Received >Benjamin Strong Brianstown, Robert Clongesh Mary Anne William R4th Mar 1839 > Clongesh 2nd Feb 1829 Moffett > >Oliver Strong Ballybrien, John Granard Mary Porter William R 7th Nov 1840 > Granard 16th Jul 1839 > > >Note : Adresses given are Civil Parishes. >A means applied to the fund only and no record of receipt and therefore may be less accurate. >R means Marriage Portion received and therefore these entries appear to be more accurate. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > GRIFFITH'S PRIMARY VALUATION OF COUNTY LONGFORD (1854): > >Occupiers Map Ref Townland Civil Parish Immediate Lessors Description Area > A R P > >John Strong 6 Cartronamarkey, Abbeylara Lt. Col. Arthur G. Lewis Land 03-00-08 >Patrick Sullivan 6a Cartronamarkey, Abbeylara John Strong House 00-00-00 >John Strong 9 Ballybrien,Granard Richard Greville House, Offices & Land 28-03-14 >John Strong 8a Cartron, Granard Richard Greville House, Offiecs & Land 30-02-20 >Edward Caffrey 8b Cartron, Granard John Strong House & Garden 00-00-10 >William Strong 15a Cloghchurnel, Granard Hon. Capt. F. Maude House, Offices & Land 31-00-01 >Thomas Kelly 15b Cloghchurnel, Granard William Strong House 00-00-00 >John Strong 12A,B Leitrim, Granard Richard Greville House, Offices & Land 48-01-08 >William Strong 2 Robinstown,Granard Richard Greville House, Offices & Land 20-00-35 > > Areas (in Acres, Roods and Perches) are as recorded, combined or proportionate to the Valuation given > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the Administration / Will Year book Indexes in the National Archives (1858+): > >YEAR Will /Admin NAME ADDRESS DIED Address >1878 W Strong, William Cloghchurnel 1878-01-28 Strong, John Eighter, Co. Down > Stephenson, Robert Carrickduff, Co. Longford, the Executors > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >1901 CENSUS OF CO. LONGFORD: > >Ballybrien Td., Granard Rural DED, Granard Ph. (Ref. 24/2/3) > >John Strong, aged 87, married, (CoI) >Margaret Strong, aged 75, married, wife >Henry Strong, aged 45, married, son >Ellen Strong, aged 36, married, daughter-in-law, born in Co. Westmeath >Elizabeth J. Strong, aged 2, grand-daughter >Ellen Strong, aged 4 months, grand-daughter >Elizabeth Brush, aged 70, widow, boarder, born in County Westmeath > >Cartron Td., Granard Urban DED, Granard Ph. (Ref. 25/2/7) > >Anne Strong, aged 58, widow, (ICh), born in Co. Cavan >George Strong, aged 26, son >Oliver Strong, aged 23, son >Mary A. Strong, aged 20, daughter > >New Road., Granard Town, Granard Urban DED, Granard Ph. (Ref. 25/19/3) > >William Strong, aged 34, married, (CoI) >Sarah Strong, aged 33, married, wife >Hugh James Strong, aged 12, son >Ellen Strong, aged 10, daughter >Hannah Strong, aged 9, daughter >William Strong, aged 7, son >George Strong, aged 5, son >Sarah Strong, aged 3, daughter >John Strong, aged 2 months, son