In a message dated 1/10/2002 5:44:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbh3@juno.com writes: << What GILES are we talking about? Sandy Hunt(Hannah descendant) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>HI SANDY! :) 'My' Giles, who is the farthest descendent I can trace on my STRONG branch... Per census' he was born in MA, 'we' (there are quite a few of 'us' on this particular branch) have estimated his date of birth as 1788 -give or take very few years . Giles appears to have come out of no where..with no parents! He married Elizabeth "Betsy' MOSHER in 1816 in NY. They had several children (Lectia, Rhoda, Lavinia, John Martin-my branch, Charles, Wilheimis aka Willie, and Sarah). As you know, families tend to 'recycle' names as is VERY evident, especially in my STRONG branch.... I know there is another "Giles" out there but the time frames are waaaaay off, stil I was in hopes they might be connected in some way (in hopes that in the recycling of names, perhaps the other one was a cousin or nephew!). ~Rene! :)