In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, rptrick@home.com writes: << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA on a census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :)

Rene, not being an expert, I can only suggest looking in towns that have Moshers and Strongs. Maybe you can connect to the wife's family. Paula ---- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I can only suggest looking in towns that have Mosher ----- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Rene... Just a piece of wild speculation... IF the SFAA folks are unable to come up with a Giles Strong in the various Elder John lineages coming out of Massachusetts... You might consider looking in ENGLISH records for him. Giles is an English given name; there WERE other Strongs landing in Boston from England (and Ireland and Scotland) who were not Elder John descendants; and it might just have been easier to tell the census takers that he was born in Massachusetts than to explain how he made entry to the US and when. He might even have entered via another place altogether. And, remember... in that time there were no border guards, etc. Where are the census records you mention from? Are they Massachusetts records, or are they from another state? And when are they from... what year? As to what English records to look in... I suggest you start with the Free BMD records at Rootsweb. THe actual BMD records do not go as far back as 1788. However, you might find a few links to other sites. And, Pam Pakes might have a few suggestions where to look. There were a lot of Strongs in Southwest England... and others elsewhere as well. Good Luck Dave Strong RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ==========================================================

Does anyone have any information on this line. I am looking specifically for a list of his children. He would have come over mid to late 1700's I think. Thanks for your help. Rene'

Hello Rene.... I am wondering how you got to Albert Strong,sr, in progressing from your earlier research as detailed in the message of Jan 7,2002, pasted in below? Some questions: 1) How do you know that Albert Strong,SR, was from Ireland? 2) How, if at all, is he related to the earlier individuals you listed... Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William, etc? 3) Do you know what his occupation was? 4) Do you know what his religion was? 5) You indicate mid to late 18th century as the time of immigration... based on what? 6) He came over to where? 7) Who was Albert, JR? 8) Do you know anything about the distaff side of the equation? Eg, it is possible the given names "Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William" may come from the mother's side of the family at some point... and that could be important in analyzing the data. In the over 3800 records in the Irish Strong Data Base, I have only about 5 or 6 records relating to an Albert Strong... but in the early 19th century. Thus, he is likely not the same individual. However, given names tended to run in families. It is possible there may be some connection... but we need a bit more insight to make the connection hypothesis. Let me know. Regards Dave Strong ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' E. Breitkreutz <rene1111@gci.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: [STRONG] Strong-- Albert Sr. from Ireland > Does anyone have any information on this line. I am looking > specifically for a list of his children. He would have come over mid to > late 1700's I think. > > Thanks for your help. > > Rene' > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rene' E. Breitkreutz" <rene1111@gci.net> > > To: <litefoot@iowatelecom.net> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:12 PM > > Subject: [Fwd: STRONG] > > > > > "Rene' E. Breitkreutz" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello: > > > > > > > > My name is Rene' Breitkreutz, and I live in Anchorage, AK. I have been > > > > researching Strong families in Fayette and Union Counties, Indiana for > > > > several years. > > > > > > > > I actually began my research in Illinois tracing my grandfather, George > > > > W. Strong. His father was William Strong. The "ease" of my research > > > > stopped cold at that point but there are several interesting clues. A > > > > Moses Strong died in Jasper County, leaving probate records. His wife > > > > at the time of his death was Nancy Bowers. However, a Sarah Strong died > > > > in Jasper County in 1851. Moses Strong was born in Indiana as was > > > > William, and Pension papers for William indicate his birthplace was > > > > "Connersville", IN. > > > > > > > > A Moses Strong married a Sarah Baden in Union County, 1826. William was > > > > born 1830-31. The 1840 Census shows Moses living in Shelby Co., but he > > > > doesn't appear in the 1850 Census. > > > > > > > > My research took me back to the earlies Strong families in Fayette and > > > > Union Counties, and in 1820, there was a Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, > > > > and William. > > > > > > > > I have traced these families to about 1850 to see who the father of > > > > Moses would be and I "believe", though I cannot yet prove, that Moses > > > > was likely a son of Nathaniel Sr. I think it's very possible that > > > > Richard was Nathaniel's son as well. > > > > > > > > I would be happy to share the information I have, but the point of my > > > > email to you is to ask if anyone has information on the line above > > > > Richard. > > > > > > > > I saw in a Fayette County History, that Richard was born in Virginia > > > > (1790) and that he came to IN when he was a young boy (10-15). That > > > > means he would have come with his father. > > > > > > > > I found indications that Thomas was born in PA. (though the 1860 census > > > > says MD). > > > > Interestingly, there is an Elizabeth Strong in the 1790 PA (Washington > > > > County) Census listing two males in the household. In 1810, Washington > > > > County, Finley Township, PA, there are both a Nathaniel and a Thomas. > > > > > > > > I was confused by this since Richard is said to have been born in VA, > > > > until I looked at a map of Washington County and Finley Township. > > > > Finley lies at the border of PA and VA. > > > > > > > > I suppose this is long and confusing, but I thought you might find it of > > > > interest, and I'm hopeful you know more than I do regarding the > > > > Strongs. I'd love to confirm some of my theories, but am simply too far > > > > away to make too many trips that far from home. > > > > > > > > Hope to hear from you soon! > > > > > > > > Rene'