Thanks Tom, but still no match. My Amos R. Strong was born in New Jersey in 1812 and died in Carroll Parish, La in 1859 / 60. Pam

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3 September 2001 Please remove my e-mail name from the automatic distribution list of the STRONG-L@rootsweb.com MAILING LIST . . . . . . Thank you for honoring my request: I am: gnortsohio@aol.com (gnorts is Strong, spelled backwards should you not recognize it).

Looking for any information on an Eleazer Strong, born sometime between 1765-1774, who was in Northumberland, Saratoga County, NY in 1800 and 1810. In 1800, he was living with two male children under the age of 10 and a female (wife?) age 16-26. In 1810, he was living with two male children under 10, two male children 10-16, and two females 26-45. Any leads appreciated. Thank you.

please send any further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com. this address was just a temporary thing for him. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Turner <flyingjt@bellsouth.net> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: The Strong Family >My name is Pamela Strong Turner. I was born in Tipton, Indiana on 1/27/60. My father was Carlos W. (Hoover) Strong of TN and my mother, Eva Mae Skelton of Sturgis, MS. His father and mother were Frank Strong of TN and Lula Green. His father and mother were Caley Strong and Sarah Katherine Spears-Strong of Celina, TN. His parents were Samuel Strong and Margaret Rich (TN), before them, Joseph Strong and Morning Denton (KY and TN) before them, Samuel Strong and Nancy Casteel (VA and KY), before them, Thomas Strong and Mary Fields (VA), before them, William Strong (VA), then John Strong (VA). I got this info from my newly found cousin Dave! He gave me this website to check out: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dstrong155/strongindex.htm > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >"Welcome to my World": Martha F. (Brani) Strong's web site >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7905/ > >Ancestors of "Elder" John Strong, Margery Deane, and >Abigail Ford in England. Children of "Elder" John >Strong of MA & CT. Historical documents of England & >U.S.A.; historical Strong(e) homes and buildings. New >genealogical research findings concerning families in >"The West Country" of England: Somerset, Dorset, and >Devon counties. Memorial to John Richard Mayer, Strange >descendant and researcher. Other research aids and links. >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send all further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address, thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Keith Tait <eebygum@eckythump.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: William Strong >Hello all I am trying to locate any info on my gr gr grandfather William Strong. >So far I know that he was born 1830 in Beggs Main,Northumberland,Engaland >He married Eleanor Belemby born 1843 Hanging Stone,Durham,England >and that they had a daughter Caroline Elizabeth Strong born may 29th 1881 and died May 5th 1954. >Does anyone know of them have a connection or come across them in there own research if so any info would be greatfully recieved. >Yours Keith > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: >http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > >Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send all further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Russell Laird <rll.geo@yahoo.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: Fwd: {not a subscriber} Chard >from--> Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net>: > >((( Marita: I've added your e-mail address to the >list. >You should now be able to post directly. In the >meantime, here's the message you sent. ))) > > >> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 05:50:53 -0600 ><*> From: Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> <*> >> To: Strong list <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: {not a subscriber} Chard >> >> Is there a website where one can see the Stronge >> house in Chard? >> >> When in Chard, where does one find the original >> documents for John >> Stronge? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marita > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Address for online searchers of STRONG MAIL LIST ARCHIVES: >http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages Cross Indexed: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9881 > >MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages not indexed: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9853 >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send all messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address for eddy. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Renner <paolawolf@hotmail.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: Elder John Strong Sister > It is nice that there is a lot of information on Elder John Strong, but >does anyone have information about his sister Eleanor Strong who married >William Deane. I know Eleanor came to American with her brother John, but >John came to America twice. Does anyone know which time John came to >America with Eleanor. > >Michelle > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for MAIL-MODE: ><STRONG-L-request@rootsweb.com> > >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for DIGEST-MODE: ><STRONG-D-request@rootsweb.com> >========================================================== >To subscribe, send 1 word message: subscribe > >To cancel subscription, send 1 word: unsubscribe >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address for ed. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Marita Gladson <maritag@earthlink.net> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Descendents of JEDEDIAH STRONG >This information is also in the book American Ancestors and Cousins of the >Princess of Wales by Gary Roberts 1984. > >Marita > >> >> Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >> *Following are some of the notable descendants of Elder John Strong >> (1610-1699), throuhg his great-great-great grandson, Dr. Joseph Strong >> (1770-1812), who is also the ancestor of Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. All >> of these people are cousins to every descendant of John Strong. > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) >IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > >Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 >of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: SFAASTRONG@aol.com <SFAASTRONG@aol.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Elder John Strong Sister >Volume IV of theSFAA update program >has a 81 page section concerning some >of the descendants of Eleanor Strong, sister >of Elder John. > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) >http://ro.com/~rts2/quest >http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > >Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. >Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. >Repository for Strong data and documents. >Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. >========================================================== >A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database >http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry >http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > >Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma >(Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John >Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. >Notes, containing sources, included. >======================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send all messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: C M Strong <cm_strong@msn.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Hello all! > >Yes, the list below is exactly what I was speaking of -- but what I was hoping >to find out now is just HOW each of these people descend from Elder John, not >just that they do! In the archives, we have the direct lines of Diana Spencer, >Bess Wallace Truman and Margaret Truman, Sarah Delano and FDR, and the >Revolutionary Patriot Nathan Hale. Can anyone post any others? > >Thanks! >Marsha > >--------------------------------------------------------- > >It is in the book "Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630", >volume 1. > >Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >*Following are some of the notable descendants of Elder John Strong >(1610-1699), through his great-great-great grandson, Dr. Joseph Strong >(1770-1812), who is also the ancestor of Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. All >of these people are cousins to every descendant of John Strong. > >1. Dean Acheson (1893-1897) U.S. Secretary of State under Truman >2. John Adams Jr. (1735-1826) Second U.S. President >3. John Quince Adams (1787-1848) Sixth U.S. President. >4. Louisa May Alcott (1832-1888) Novelist >5. Horatio Alger Jr. (1834-1899) Novelist >6. Ethan Allen (1738-1789) Revolutionary soldier >7. Susan Brownell Anthony (1820-1906) Reformer & suffragette >8. Lyman Frank Baum (1856-1919) Author of The Wonderful Wizard of OZ >9. Henry Ward Beecher (1775-1863) Preacher and abolitionist >10. Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) Twice U.S. President (22nd & 24th) >11. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) Actor >12. Schuyler Colfax Jr. (1823-1885) U.S. Vice-President under Grant >13. Samuel Colt (1814-1862) Firearms manufacturer. Inventor of the "Colt 45" >14. Charles Gates Dawes (1872-1933) U.S. Vice-President under Coolidge >15. Calvin Coolidge, Jr. (1872-1933) The 30th. U.S. President >16. George Dewey (1873-1917) Admiral who captured Manila >17. Thomas Dewey (1902-1971) Governo of New York & Presidential candidate >18. Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) Poetess >19. John Foster Dulles (1888-1959) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >20. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) Philosopher, Essayist, & poet >21. Millard Fillmore (1800-1874) Thirteenth U.S. President >22. George Gallop (1901- )Pollster >23. Erle Stanley Gardner (1889-1897) Detective novelist >24. Dorothy Gish (1898-1968) Actress >25. Lillian Gish (1896- ) Actress >26. Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909) Author of "Man Without A Country" >27. Nathan Hale (1755-1776) Revolutionary Hero >28. Rutherford B. Hayes (1822-1893) Ninteenth U.S. President >29. Christian Herter (1895-1967) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >30. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr (1841-1967) Jurist >31. Lamar Hunt (1932- ) Oilman & billionaire >32. Donald L. Jacobus (1887-1970) Genealogist >33. Spencer Woolley Kimball (1895- ) President of Morman Church sine >1973 >34. Henry Cabot Lodge II (1902- ) Vice-President candidate >35. Clare Boothe Luce (1903- ) Playwright & Congresswoman >36. Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982) Poet &Playwright >37. John Phillips Marquand II (1893-1960) Novelist >38. George McCleeland (1826-1885) Union General. Presidential Candidate. >39. Margaret Mead (1901-1978) Anthropolgist >40. Dwight Lyman Moody (1837-1899) Founder of the Moody Bible Institute >41. John Pierpont Morgan (1867-1943) Banker >42. Levi Parsons Morton (1824-1920) U.S. Vice-President under Harrison. >43. Frederick Olmsted (1822-1920) Designer of Central Park, New York City >44. Anthony Perkins (1932- ) Actor >45. William Sydney Porter (O. Henry) (1862-1910) Short Story Writer >46. Lee Remick (1935- )Actress >47. John D. Rockefeller (1839-1937) Oil tycoon & philanthropist >48. Nelson Rockefeller (1908-1978) U.S. Vice-President under Gerald Ford >49. David Rockefeller (1915- )Financier >50. George Romney (1907- ) President of American Motors & Governor of >Michigan >51. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) Thirty-second U.S. President >52. Harriett Beecher Stowe (1811-1896) Abolitionist & Authoress of "Uncle >Tom's Cabin >53. Lowell Thomas (1892-1981) Radio-TV Commentator & Travel Author >54. Bess Wallace ( -1982) Wife of President Harry Truman >55. Gloria Vanderbuilt ( ) Socialite >56. Noah Webster, Jr (1758-1843) Writer of Webster's Dictionary >57. Orson Welles (1915- ) Actor & Producer >58. Paul Dudley White (1886-1973) Physician & Heart Specialist >59. Wilbur Wright (1867-1912) Co-inventor of the airplane >60. Orville Wright (1871-1948) Co-inventor of the airplane > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nediinne -----Original Message----- From: Gnortsohio@aol.com <Gnortsohio@aol.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Thank you for the listing of "famous people" who are descendants of Elder >John Strong - > >Add #61 to the list please: DAVID STRONG (1934- ) > USNavy/7 kids-24 grandkids/ > paid taxes/now retired > >Cheers - David Strong > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >"Welcome to my World": Martha F. (Brani) Strong's web site >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7905/ > >Ancestors of "Elder" John Strong, Margery Deane, and >Abigail Ford in England. Children of "Elder" John >Strong of MA & CT. Historical documents of England & >U.S.A.; historical Strong(e) homes and buildings. New >genealogical research findings concerning families in >"The West Country" of England: Somerset, Dorset, and >Devon counties. Memorial to John Richard Mayer, Strange >descendant and researcher. Other research aids and links. >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further msgs concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail this was just a temporary address. thank you, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: James E. Gilbert <jgilbert@hiwaay.net> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Way to go David Strong!!!!!!! >Jim >jgilbert@hawaay.net >At 12:44 PM 08/28/01 EDT, you wrote: >>Thank you for the listing of "famous people" who are descendants of Elder >>John Strong - >> >>Add #61 to the list please: DAVID STRONG (1934- ) >> USNavy/7 kids-24 grandkids/ >> paid taxes/now retired >> >>Cheers - David Strong >> >> >>==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >>======================================================== >>"Welcome to my World": Martha F. (Brani) Strong's web site >>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7905/ >> >>Ancestors of "Elder" John Strong, Margery Deane, and >>Abigail Ford in England. Children of "Elder" John >>Strong of MA & CT. Historical documents of England & >>U.S.A.; historical Strong(e) homes and buildings. New >>genealogical research findings concerning families in >>"The West Country" of England: Somerset, Dorset, and >>Devon counties. Memorial to John Richard Mayer, Strange >>descendant and researcher. Other research aids and links. >>========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Ship Captains and other Mariners named STRANG(E) or STRONG(E) >http://tor-pw1.netcom.ca/~vickerst/ships.html > >Immigrants named STRANG(E) or STRONG(E) from passenger lists >http://tor-pw1.netcom.ca/~vickerst/passlist.html >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Wiedmer <strongdar@freesurf.ch> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:07 AM Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Dear Marsha, > >It's with a bit of trepidation that I ask this perhaps naive question: which >are the archives that list the lines of Diana Spencer, etc? I'm relatively >new at this (descend from Elder John's son Thomas) and find time to indulge >only sporadically. > >Thanks > >Carol Wiedmer >---------- >>Von: "C M Strong" <cm_strong@msn.com> >>An: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>Betreff: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>Datum: Die, 28. Aug 2001 17:43 >> > >>Hello all! >> >>Yes, the list below is exactly what I was speaking of -- but what I was >hoping >>to find out now is just HOW each of these people descend from Elder John, >not >>just that they do! In the archives, we have the direct lines of Diana >Spencer, >>Bess Wallace Truman and Margaret Truman, Sarah Delano and FDR, and the >>Revolutionary Patriot Nathan Hale. Can anyone post any others? >> >>Thanks! >>Marsha >> >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >>It is in the book "Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630", >>volume 1. >> >>Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>*Following are some of the notable descendants of Elder John Strong >>(1610-1699), through his great-great-great grandson, Dr. Joseph Strong >>(1770-1812), who is also the ancestor of Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. >All >>of these people are cousins to every descendant of John Strong. >> >>1. Dean Acheson (1893-1897) U.S. Secretary of State under Truman >>2. John Adams Jr. (1735-1826) Second U.S. President >>3. John Quince Adams (1787-1848) Sixth U.S. President. >>4. Louisa May Alcott (1832-1888) Novelist >>5. Horatio Alger Jr. (1834-1899) Novelist >>6. Ethan Allen (1738-1789) Revolutionary soldier >>7. Susan Brownell Anthony (1820-1906) Reformer & suffragette >>8. Lyman Frank Baum (1856-1919) Author of The Wonderful Wizard of OZ >>9. Henry Ward Beecher (1775-1863) Preacher and abolitionist >>10. Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) Twice U.S. President (22nd & 24th) >>11. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) Actor >>12. Schuyler Colfax Jr. (1823-1885) U.S. Vice-President under Grant >>13. Samuel Colt (1814-1862) Firearms manufacturer. Inventor of the "Colt >45" >>14. Charles Gates Dawes (1872-1933) U.S. Vice-President under Coolidge >>15. Calvin Coolidge, Jr. (1872-1933) The 30th. U.S. President >>16. George Dewey (1873-1917) Admiral who captured Manila >>17. Thomas Dewey (1902-1971) Governo of New York & Presidential candidate >>18. Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) Poetess >>19. John Foster Dulles (1888-1959) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>20. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) Philosopher, Essayist, & poet >>21. Millard Fillmore (1800-1874) Thirteenth U.S. President >>22. George Gallop (1901- )Pollster >>23. Erle Stanley Gardner (1889-1897) Detective novelist >>24. Dorothy Gish (1898-1968) Actress >>25. Lillian Gish (1896- ) Actress >>26. Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909) Author of "Man Without A Country" >>27. Nathan Hale (1755-1776) Revolutionary Hero >>28. Rutherford B. Hayes (1822-1893) Ninteenth U.S. President >>29. Christian Herter (1895-1967) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>30. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr (1841-1967) Jurist >>31. Lamar Hunt (1932- ) Oilman & billionaire >>32. Donald L. Jacobus (1887-1970) Genealogist >>33. Spencer Woolley Kimball (1895- ) President of Morman Church sine >>1973 >>34. Henry Cabot Lodge II (1902- ) Vice-President candidate >>35. Clare Boothe Luce (1903- ) Playwright & Congresswoman >>36. Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982) Poet &Playwright >>37. John Phillips Marquand II (1893-1960) Novelist >>38. George McCleeland (1826-1885) Union General. Presidential Candidate. >>39. Margaret Mead (1901-1978) Anthropolgist >>40. Dwight Lyman Moody (1837-1899) Founder of the Moody Bible Institute >>41. John Pierpont Morgan (1867-1943) Banker >>42. Levi Parsons Morton (1824-1920) U.S. Vice-President under Harrison. >>43. Frederick Olmsted (1822-1920) Designer of Central Park, New York City >>44. Anthony Perkins (1932- ) Actor >>45. William Sydney Porter (O. Henry) (1862-1910) Short Story Writer >>46. Lee Remick (1935- )Actress >>47. John D. Rockefeller (1839-1937) Oil tycoon & philanthropist >>48. Nelson Rockefeller (1908-1978) U.S. Vice-President under Gerald Ford >>49. David Rockefeller (1915- )Financier >>50. George Romney (1907- ) President of American Motors & Governor of >>Michigan >>51. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) Thirty-second U.S. President >>52. Harriett Beecher Stowe (1811-1896) Abolitionist & Authoress of "Uncle >>Tom's Cabin >>53. Lowell Thomas (1892-1981) Radio-TV Commentator & Travel Author >>54. Bess Wallace ( -1982) Wife of President Harry Truman >>55. Gloria Vanderbuilt ( ) Socialite >>56. Noah Webster, Jr (1758-1843) Writer of Webster's Dictionary >>57. Orson Welles (1915- ) Actor & Producer >>58. Paul Dudley White (1886-1973) Physician & Heart Specialist >>59. Wilbur Wright (1867-1912) Co-inventor of the airplane >>60. Orville Wright (1871-1948) Co-inventor of the airplane >> >> >>==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >>======================================================== >>Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >>England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >>of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >>========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further message concerning strong to mailto:els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary addresss, thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Wiedmer <strongdar@freesurf.ch> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Dear Marsha, > >It's with a bit of trepidation that I ask this probably naive question: >which are the archives you mention that list "... the lines of Diana >Spencer, ..."? I'm relatively new at this (I descend from Elder John's son, >Thomas) and only sporadically find time to indulge my interest in the Strong >family genealogy. > >Thanks, > >Carol Wiedmer >---------- >>Von: "C M Strong" <cm_strong@msn.com> >>An: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>Betreff: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>Datum: Die, 28. Aug 2001 17:43 >> > >>Hello all! >> >>Yes, the list below is exactly what I was speaking of -- but what I was >hoping >>to find out now is just HOW each of these people descend from Elder John, >not >>just that they do! In the archives, we have the direct lines of Diana >Spencer, >>Bess Wallace Truman and Margaret Truman, Sarah Delano and FDR, and the >>Revolutionary Patriot Nathan Hale. Can anyone post any others? >> >>Thanks! >>Marsha >> >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >>It is in the book "Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630", >>volume 1. >> >>Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>*Following are some of the notable descendants of Elder John Strong >>(1610-1699), through his great-great-great grandson, Dr. Joseph Strong >>(1770-1812), who is also the ancestor of Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. >All >>of these people are cousins to every descendant of John Strong. >> >>1. Dean Acheson (1893-1897) U.S. Secretary of State under Truman >>2. John Adams Jr. (1735-1826) Second U.S. President >>3. John Quince Adams (1787-1848) Sixth U.S. President. >>4. Louisa May Alcott (1832-1888) Novelist >>5. Horatio Alger Jr. (1834-1899) Novelist >>6. Ethan Allen (1738-1789) Revolutionary soldier >>7. Susan Brownell Anthony (1820-1906) Reformer & suffragette >>8. Lyman Frank Baum (1856-1919) Author of The Wonderful Wizard of OZ >>9. Henry Ward Beecher (1775-1863) Preacher and abolitionist >>10. Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) Twice U.S. President (22nd & 24th) >>11. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) Actor >>12. Schuyler Colfax Jr. (1823-1885) U.S. Vice-President under Grant >>13. Samuel Colt (1814-1862) Firearms manufacturer. Inventor of the "Colt >45" >>14. Charles Gates Dawes (1872-1933) U.S. Vice-President under Coolidge >>15. Calvin Coolidge, Jr. (1872-1933) The 30th. U.S. President >>16. George Dewey (1873-1917) Admiral who captured Manila >>17. Thomas Dewey (1902-1971) Governo of New York & Presidential candidate >>18. Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) Poetess >>19. John Foster Dulles (1888-1959) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>20. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) Philosopher, Essayist, & poet >>21. Millard Fillmore (1800-1874) Thirteenth U.S. President >>22. George Gallop (1901- )Pollster >>23. Erle Stanley Gardner (1889-1897) Detective novelist >>24. Dorothy Gish (1898-1968) Actress >>25. Lillian Gish (1896- ) Actress >>26. Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909) Author of "Man Without A Country" >>27. Nathan Hale (1755-1776) Revolutionary Hero >>28. Rutherford B. Hayes (1822-1893) Ninteenth U.S. President >>29. Christian Herter (1895-1967) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>30. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr (1841-1967) Jurist >>31. Lamar Hunt (1932- ) Oilman & billionaire >>32. Donald L. Jacobus (1887-1970) Genealogist >>33. Spencer Woolley Kimball (1895- ) President of Morman Church sine >>1973 >>34. Henry Cabot Lodge II (1902- ) Vice-President candidate >>35. Clare Boothe Luce (1903- ) Playwright & Congresswoman >>36. Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982) Poet &Playwright >>37. John Phillips Marquand II (1893-1960) Novelist >>38. George McCleeland (1826-1885) Union General. Presidential Candidate. >>39. Margaret Mead (1901-1978) Anthropolgist >>40. Dwight Lyman Moody (1837-1899) Founder of the Moody Bible Institute >>41. John Pierpont Morgan (1867-1943) Banker >>42. Levi Parsons Morton (1824-1920) U.S. Vice-President under Harrison. >>43. Frederick Olmsted (1822-1920) Designer of Central Park, New York City >>44. Anthony Perkins (1932- ) Actor >>45. William Sydney Porter (O. Henry) (1862-1910) Short Story Writer >>46. Lee Remick (1935- )Actress >>47. John D. Rockefeller (1839-1937) Oil tycoon & philanthropist >>48. Nelson Rockefeller (1908-1978) U.S. Vice-President under Gerald Ford >>49. David Rockefeller (1915- )Financier >>50. George Romney (1907- ) President of American Motors & Governor of >>Michigan >>51. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) Thirty-second U.S. President >>52. Harriett Beecher Stowe (1811-1896) Abolitionist & Authoress of "Uncle >>Tom's Cabin >>53. Lowell Thomas (1892-1981) Radio-TV Commentator & Travel Author >>54. Bess Wallace ( -1982) Wife of President Harry Truman >>55. Gloria Vanderbuilt ( ) Socialite >>56. Noah Webster, Jr (1758-1843) Writer of Webster's Dictionary >>57. Orson Welles (1915- ) Actor & Producer >>58. Paul Dudley White (1886-1973) Physician & Heart Specialist >>59. Wilbur Wright (1867-1912) Co-inventor of the airplane >>60. Orville Wright (1871-1948) Co-inventor of the airplane >> >> >>==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >>======================================================== >>Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >>England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >>of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >>========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) >IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > >Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 >of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address. thanks, nedinne ---Original Message----- From: C M Strong <cm_strong@msn.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >Hi Carol! > >Oh have no trepidation! This is a *good* question! I just wish I had a better answer! > >I just got a new puter and all my favorite bookmarks have not been transferred over >here yet, so I can't remember the *exact* URL -- but do this: > >Go to www.rootsweb.com and the mailing list section. Type in "Strong" and it should give you some choices and one of those should be "archived messages" or some such! > >It that doesn't work, write me back off-list (cmstrong@ourpostbox.com) and I'll >try again. > >Oh yeah -- everybody else -- here is my new e-mail addy, BTW!! > >Marsha > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Caroline Wiedmer >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:17 PM >To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong > >Dear Marsha, > >It's with a bit of trepidation that I ask this probably naive question: >which are the archives you mention that list "... the lines of Diana >Spencer, ..."? I'm relatively new at this (I descend from Elder John's son, >Thomas) and only sporadically find time to indulge my interest in the Strong >family genealogy. > >Thanks, > >Carol Wiedmer >---------- >>Von: "C M Strong" <cm_strong@msn.com> >>An: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>Betreff: Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>Datum: Die, 28. Aug 2001 17:43 >> > >>Hello all! >> >>Yes, the list below is exactly what I was speaking of -- but what I was >hoping >>to find out now is just HOW each of these people descend from Elder John, >not >>just that they do! In the archives, we have the direct lines of Diana >Spencer, >>Bess Wallace Truman and Margaret Truman, Sarah Delano and FDR, and the >>Revolutionary Patriot Nathan Hale. Can anyone post any others? >> >>Thanks! >>Marsha >> >>--------------------------------------------------------- >> >>It is in the book "Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630", >>volume 1. >> >>Famous Descendants of Elder John Strong >>*Following are some of the notable descendants of Elder John Strong >>(1610-1699), through his great-great-great grandson, Dr. Joseph Strong >>(1770-1812), who is also the ancestor of Lady Diana, Princess of Wales. >All >>of these people are cousins to every descendant of John Strong. >> >>1. Dean Acheson (1893-1897) U.S. Secretary of State under Truman >>2. John Adams Jr. (1735-1826) Second U.S. President >>3. John Quince Adams (1787-1848) Sixth U.S. President. >>4. Louisa May Alcott (1832-1888) Novelist >>5. Horatio Alger Jr. (1834-1899) Novelist >>6. Ethan Allen (1738-1789) Revolutionary soldier >>7. Susan Brownell Anthony (1820-1906) Reformer & suffragette >>8. Lyman Frank Baum (1856-1919) Author of The Wonderful Wizard of OZ >>9. Henry Ward Beecher (1775-1863) Preacher and abolitionist >>10. Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) Twice U.S. President (22nd & 24th) >>11. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) Actor >>12. Schuyler Colfax Jr. (1823-1885) U.S. Vice-President under Grant >>13. Samuel Colt (1814-1862) Firearms manufacturer. Inventor of the "Colt >45" >>14. Charles Gates Dawes (1872-1933) U.S. Vice-President under Coolidge >>15. Calvin Coolidge, Jr. (1872-1933) The 30th. U.S. President >>16. George Dewey (1873-1917) Admiral who captured Manila >>17. Thomas Dewey (1902-1971) Governo of New York & Presidential candidate >>18. Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) Poetess >>19. John Foster Dulles (1888-1959) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>20. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882) Philosopher, Essayist, & poet >>21. Millard Fillmore (1800-1874) Thirteenth U.S. President >>22. George Gallop (1901- )Pollster >>23. Erle Stanley Gardner (1889-1897) Detective novelist >>24. Dorothy Gish (1898-1968) Actress >>25. Lillian Gish (1896- ) Actress >>26. Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909) Author of "Man Without A Country" >>27. Nathan Hale (1755-1776) Revolutionary Hero >>28. Rutherford B. Hayes (1822-1893) Ninteenth U.S. President >>29. Christian Herter (1895-1967) U.S. Secretary of State under Eisenhower >>30. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr (1841-1967) Jurist >>31. Lamar Hunt (1932- ) Oilman & billionaire >>32. Donald L. Jacobus (1887-1970) Genealogist >>33. Spencer Woolley Kimball (1895- ) President of Morman Church sine >>1973 >>34. Henry Cabot Lodge II (1902- ) Vice-President candidate >>35. Clare Boothe Luce (1903- ) Playwright & Congresswoman >>36. Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982) Poet &Playwright >>37. John Phillips Marquand II (1893-1960) Novelist >>38. George McCleeland (1826-1885) Union General. Presidential Candidate. >>39. Margaret Mead (1901-1978) Anthropolgist >>40. Dwight Lyman Moody (1837-1899) Founder of the Moody Bible Institute >>41. John Pierpont Morgan (1867-1943) Banker >>42. Levi Parsons Morton (1824-1920) U.S. Vice-President under Harrison. >>43. Frederick Olmsted (1822-1920) Designer of Central Park, New York City >>44. Anthony Perkins (1932- ) Actor >>45. William Sydney Porter (O. Henry) (1862-1910) Short Story Writer >>46. Lee Remick (1935- )Actress >>47. John D. Rockefeller (1839-1937) Oil tycoon & philanthropist >>48. Nelson Rockefeller (1908-1978) U.S. Vice-President under Gerald Ford >>49. David Rockefeller (1915- )Financier >>50. George Romney (1907- ) President of American Motors & Governor of >>Michigan >>51. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945) Thirty-second U.S. President >>52. Harriett Beecher Stowe (1811-1896) Abolitionist & Authoress of "Uncle >>Tom's Cabin >>53. Lowell Thomas (1892-1981) Radio-TV Commentator & Travel Author >>54. Bess Wallace ( -1982) Wife of President Harry Truman >>55. Gloria Vanderbuilt ( ) Socialite >>56. Noah Webster, Jr (1758-1843) Writer of Webster's Dictionary >>57. Orson Welles (1915- ) Actor & Producer >>58. Paul Dudley White (1886-1973) Physician & Heart Specialist >>59. Wilbur Wright (1867-1912) Co-inventor of the airplane >>60. Orville Wright (1871-1948) Co-inventor of the airplane >> >> >>==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >>======================================================== >>Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >>England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >>of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >>========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) >IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > >Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 >of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". >========================================================== > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Address for online searchers of STRONG MAIL LIST ARCHIVES: >http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages Cross Indexed: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9881 > >MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages not indexed: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9853 >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address, thank you, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Brenda & Tony MacCulloch <ajmac@internet.co.nz> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: STRONG related families who are politicans >Hi from Auckland, NZ, > >I wondered if anyone out there knew if a one-time Speaker of the House (your >Congress) Thomas Foley, was in any way related to a STRONG family. > >The reason I ask is that I did see a clip of him on the TV and was struck by >the likeness between himself and my grandfather, Herbert Onslow STRONG who >was a mayor of a small town here in NZ at one time. > >As I am at home recovering from bronchitis, I have had time to 'surf the >web' and found a picture of Mr Foley that again is very much like my >grandfather. Of course, it may be that they are not related in any way or >that it may be from another family line. > >If anyone has any ideas or information, I would love to hear from them. >Also, would it be possible to find a family tree for Mr Foley ? > >Kind regards, > >Brenda > >Brenda MacCulloch >ajmac@internet.co.nz >Titirangi >Auckland >New Zealand >Searching: >STRONG NELSON WELLS GOULDS BROWNLEE CURZON PHILBRICK LAMBERT PHILLIPS >SPALL PITTAWAY SHELDON CRESSWELL BRETTELL SCOTT- any where any time > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) >IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > >Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 >of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address for ed, thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Gnortsohio@aol.com <Gnortsohio@aol.com> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: STRONG related families who are politicans >G'Day Brenda & Tony MacCullough in Auckland, New Zealand - > >Got your message about JIM FOLEY and your wondering if he was related to >STRONGS - > >I frankly doubt it very much - as he was NOT LISTED in the listing of the TOP >61 people related to Elder John Strong. > >By the way - if you didn't realize it - WE ARE ALL RELATED as we descend >directly from ADAM & EVE the first people to populate this Earth as created >by God, Himself. > >Stop and think about that. > >Amazing to comprehend. > >Have a great day "down under", y'all. > >Regards - David Strong - #61 on The List - :-) > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) >http://ro.com/~rts2/quest >http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > >Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. >Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. >Repository for Strong data and documents. >Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. >========================================================== >A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database >http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry >http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > >Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma >(Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John >Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. >Notes, containing sources, included. >======================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further msgs concerning strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a temporary address for him. thank you, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Brenda & Tony MacCulloch <ajmac@internet.co.nz> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: Re: STRONG related families who are politicans - oops.. >oops, forgot to say it was a Professor SYKES, the gentleman that I am citing >below. > >cheers, >Brenda >ajmac@internet.co.nz > >> From: Brenda & Tony MacCulloch <ajmac@internet.co.nz> >> Reply-To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:01:30 +1200 >> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: STRONG related families who are politicans >> Resent-From: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:59:26 -0600 >> >> yes I agree, we are indeed all related. >> >> I was listening to an Oxford University Professor being interviewed on the >> National radio. It was fascinating. He is an expert in DNA testing. >> >> He was discussing the different types of DNA testing that is now possible to >> be carried out. >> >> In particular, the 'M' Gene DNA testing that is specifically carried, in an >> unbroken form through the female family members. >> >> Also the 'Y' chromosome DNA testing that is only carried through the male >> members of the family. >> >> Using the 'M' DNA testing, (it was a long story and I am only giving you the >> outcome of the research here), they found that all women in the world are >> descended from one African woman. From her there are SEVEN main 'clusters' >> of 'M' DNA 'types'. >> >> Apparently, one can go to the web page he mentioned called Oxfordancestors >> and apply for a self collection kit to do a 'mouth scraping' to find out >> which of the seven clusters of the 'M' DNA types one belongs to. Everyone >> belongs to one of them and only one of them as it is an unbroken line >> through the maternal line that takes us back there. >> >> The 'Y' Chromosome testing is through the male members and several 'One name >> studies' have shown that on a random testing, men with the same name, and >> not necessarily related in any way, are related back to a single individual >> male. >> >> I stand to be corrected in any way of the above science but its sure >> fascinating and when I get over this jolly bronchitis i think I will do the >> test to see which cluster of the seven M types I belong to. >> >> Thanks for your kind knowledge and reply. >> >> Brenda >> ajmac@internet.co.nz >> >>> From: Gnortsohio@aol.com >>> Reply-To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:59:09 EDT >>> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: STRONG related families who are politicans >>> Resent-From: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >>> Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:59:06 -0600 >>> >>> G'Day Brenda & Tony MacCullough in Auckland, New Zealand - >>> >>> Got your message about JIM FOLEY and your wondering if he was related to >>> STRONGS - >>> >>> I frankly doubt it very much - as he was NOT LISTED in the listing of the TOP >>> 61 people related to Elder John Strong. >>> >>> By the way - if you didn't realize it - WE ARE ALL RELATED as we descend >>> directly from ADAM & EVE the first people to populate this Earth as created >>> by God, Himself. >>> >>> Stop and think about that. >>> >>> Amazing to comprehend. >>> >>> Have a great day "down under", y'all. >>> >>> Regards - David Strong - #61 on The List - :-) >>> >>> >>> ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >>> ======================================================== >>> THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) >>> http://ro.com/~rts2/quest >>> http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html >>> >>> Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. >>> Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. >>> Repository for Strong data and documents. >>> Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. >>> ========================================================== >>> A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database >>> http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry >>> http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry >>> >>> Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma >>> (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John >>> Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. >>> Notes, containing sources, included. >>> ======================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >> ======================================================== >> Address for online searchers of STRONG MAIL LIST ARCHIVES: >> http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages Cross Indexed: >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9881 >> >> MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages not indexed: >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9853 >> ========================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for MAIL-MODE: ><STRONG-L-request@rootsweb.com> > >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for DIGEST-MODE: ><STRONG-D-request@rootsweb.com> >========================================================== >To subscribe, send 1 word message: subscribe > >To cancel subscription, send 1 word: unsubscribe >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

please send further messages about strong to els1969ham@hotmail.com this was just a message address until he got his comp. thanks, nedinne -----Original Message----- From: Lloyd A. Horrocks <horrocks.2@osu.edu> To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:15 PM Subject: Re: DNA testing, patrilineal lines >The following is taken from the BBC web site. It would be interesting for >all those with the STRONG name to volunteer for a similar test. The upside >is that the patrilineal line would be proved. The downside is that for >some men the patrilineal line established by genealogical research would be >disproved by a different father being involved. Another possibility is >that a STRONG might belong to a different STRONG line than assumed. > >Note that Prof. Sykes did not have a very large sample, but he has done >three other surnames. > >Professor Bryan Sykes, at the University of Oxford, started the research as >"a bit of fun", but it is likely to have an impact in genealogy. > >Professor Sykes used samples from 61 volunteers who shared his surname to >establish a link between the name and the distinctive DNA. He has found >similar results for three other names, but thinks the link may not hold for >the most common surnames like Jones and Smith. > >People sharing a surname may share a single male ancestor. Genealogists had >long assumed that there would be several founders for every family name. >[do you believe this?] > >It has been traditional in England for children to take their father's name >and so Professor Sykes and colleague Catherine Irven looked at the Y >chromosome, which fathers pass to sons but not daughters. > >They randomly chose 250 men with the name Sykes and asked for DNA samples: >61 replied with a swab from the inside of their cheek. > >Half of the group shared four unique sections of DNA which were not found >in control subjects either in Yorkshire or other areas of the UK. [If >there was only one or two differences, this could have been a mutation and >would not be evidence of infedelity. I don't know if Prof. Sykes looked at >this.] > >The other half did not have the Sykes DNA, suggesting some infidelity in >the Sykes dynasty. However, the estimated rate of infidelity over the 700 >years the name has existed for is very low. > >If just 1.3% of the Sykes children in each generation were fathered by >someone other than a Sykes, then the accumulation of "foreign" genes would >mean that about half of today's Sykes would not have the unique DNA. > >The research is published in the American Journal of Human Genetics. > >For the complete story, go to >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_701000/701286.stm > >Portions in brackets are my comments. >Lloyd Horrocks, Ph.D., <Horrocks.2@osu.edu> >Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry >The Ohio State University >matrilineal descent from Abigail Strong (1808-1868), greatgreatgrandmother >She is daughter of Ezra Strong, b 1763, Colchester, CT, d 1833 > >At 11:06 AM 08/30/2001 +1200, you wrote: >>oops, forgot to say it was a Professor SYKES, the gentleman that I am citing >>below. >> >>cheers, >>Brenda >>ajmac@internet.co.nz >> >> > From: Brenda & Tony MacCulloch <ajmac@internet.co.nz> >> > Reply-To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:01:30 +1200 >> > To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: STRONG related families who are politicans >> > Resent-From: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com >> > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:59:26 -0600 >> > >> > yes I agree, we are indeed all related. >> > >> > I was listening to an Oxford University Professor being interviewed on the >> > National radio. It was fascinating. He is an expert in DNA testing. >> > >> > He was discussing the different types of DNA testing that is now >> possible to >> > be carried out. >> > >> > In particular, the 'M' Gene DNA testing that is specifically carried, in an >> > unbroken form through the female family members. >> > >> > Also the 'Y' chromosome DNA testing that is only carried through the male >> > members of the family. >> > >> > Using the 'M' DNA testing, (it was a long story and I am only giving >> you the >> > outcome of the research here), they found that all women in the world are >> > descended from one African woman. From her there are SEVEN main 'clusters' >> > of 'M' DNA 'types'. >> > >> > Apparently, one can go to the web page he mentioned called Oxfordancestors >> > and apply for a self collection kit to do a 'mouth scraping' to find out >> > which of the seven clusters of the 'M' DNA types one belongs to. Everyone >> > belongs to one of them and only one of them as it is an unbroken line >> > through the maternal line that takes us back there. >> > >> > The 'Y' Chromosome testing is through the male members and several 'One >> name >> > studies' have shown that on a random testing, men with the same name, and >> > not necessarily related in any way, are related back to a single individual >> > male. >> > >> > I stand to be corrected in any way of the above science but its sure >> > fascinating and when I get over this jolly bronchitis i think I will do the >> > test to see which cluster of the seven M types I belong to. >> > >> > Thanks for your kind knowledge and reply. >> > >> > Brenda >> > ajmac@internet.co.nz >> > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for MAIL-MODE: ><STRONG-L-request@rootsweb.com> > >Address to subscribe or cancel subscription for DIGEST-MODE: ><STRONG-D-request@rootsweb.com> >========================================================== >To subscribe, send 1 word message: subscribe > >To cancel subscription, send 1 word: unsubscribe >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >