My name is Gerard Strong. I am the youngest of ten children. My father was Charles Strong, and I believe his father had the same name. My father was born in Glasgow, Scotland, in the early years of the last century. My grandfather came from Cavan, in County Cavan, and my father used to say that his family had been involved with the maintenance and upkeep of the Catholic Church/?cathedral in that town. I know nothing of my grandfather's family, and I estimate that he must have emigrated to Glasgow around 1880-1890. There are a number of genetic identifiers which I assume might feature in any other branches of the branch of the family connected to us. Most notable is the tendency to develop grey hair at an early age. I would be interested to hear from any Strongs out there who hear any bells ringing from this information. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get personalised at My Yahoo!.
Hi Rene... I recognize your problem in trying to trace these folks. From a general standpoint, there are significant difficulties tracing lineages through the late colonial and early American period. Many records have been lost. And many records were never kept in the first instance. Many individuals were virtually illiterate, and some were trying to forget the past... the last thing they wanted was to create a record of that past. Further, after the Revolution, the US embarked on a policy of cultural assimilation... designed to make everyone Americans. The result of this policy was to make people forget their roots and look to the American present and future. As a result, many Americans today have a rather limited understanding of the influence of British history, policies, laws, culture, religion, geography and society. However, in fact much of American geography (placenames), law, culture, society, etc., is either tracable to places and events in the UK, or developed as a reaction to the situation in the 17th and 18th century UK. Understanding some of that history and situation may be very helpful in tracing lineages back OUT of the US and across the Atlantic to England and Ireland. England used Ireland and the American colonies as a dumping ground. Many early colonists arrived as indentured servants. This is a nice euphemism in many cases for saying they were convicts who were subjected to contracts of indenture binding them to the purchasers of the contracts which were priced to cover the costs of transportation. That indentured servants were convicts should not be taken as a slur on them or their descendents. Many of the convictions were trumped up and would never stand up in a modern court of law. After the American Revolution, England turned to Australia as a dumping ground. Anyone interested in some insights as to how the system worked might want to read Colleen McCullough's recent book "Morgan's Run". It is fiction... but well written with a great deal of historical insight. England was still suffering the hangover of the feudal system inherited from the Norman conquerers in the 17th-to early 19th century. Aristocrats held great feudal grants of land from the crown... and treated their tenants as servants. It was a very different world than that which we now know, (and it should be said, from what now exists in the UK). In Ireland, there was a rather close relationship between the Landlords and their protestant Yeoman tenantry. There was a lot of history to that relationship I won't go into just now. However, even in the face of the closeness of that relationship, a lot of the tenants started to migrate out of Ireland toward America during the 17th and 18th centuries. There were large families, limited lands available, limited production of food for too many mouths... and that was all before the infamous famine years of the 1840's. America offered a lot of opportunities to acquire land and to accomodate the wants and needs of the lower classes. The English government had planted Ireland in the late 16th and early 17th centuries with settlers from both England and Scotland. Most precisely, one must ultimately try to identify a lineage as Anglo-Irish or Scots-Irish... but all too frequently there is a tendency to label ALL non-Catholic emigrants from Ireland as Scots-Irish. It was precisely the lower class of Scots-or Anglo-Irish tenant farmer which provided a lot of the 18th century colonists of the western lands of Virginia, Pennsylvania, and on into Ohio. I have read that at the time of the Revolution, at least 40% of the population of the American colonies was Scots-Irish. They were flooding into the back country to take up land, because the land near the eastern seacoast was already taken. I would not be at all surprised to learn that the Strongs you are looking for fit into this category. Back to the religious angle... There were Church of Ireland Anglo-Irish Strongs from the south of Ireland... County Wicklow and Dublin... and some Catholic Strongs from Dublin, Kings & Queens Counties, and a mixture from all over Ireland. There were Presbyterian Scots-Irish Strongs from Antrim, Londonderry, Armagh, Down, and Cavan... and even from Cork in the south. Not all Scots-Irish were Presbyterians... perhaps the first religious category most people think of when discussing the Scots and Ulster Irish. In fact, many of the Donegal-Fermanagh and Cavan-Longford-Monaghan-Sligo Strongs were either Scots-Irish or Anglo-Irish in descent, and were members first of the Church of Ireland, which was Anglican in doctrine; and later, after the Wesley brothers spread their reform movement to Ireland in the late 18th century and early 19th century, were Methodists. This is perhaps a long way around to suggesting that you MAY be heading in the direction of one of these groups in Ireland. The given names you are looking at make me think more of the Cavan-Longford-Monaghan-Sligo grouping, or the south of Ireland. Richard, Nathaniel, and Benjamin just don't occur in Donegal and Fermanagh... and are scarce enough in Cavan, etc. Don't know if any of this helps... but there it is for what it is worth. Good Luck! Dave Strong =============================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' E. Breitkreutz <rene1111@gci.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong-- Richard from Ireland > Dave: > > I don't have many answers to your questions. In fact, I have more > questions than answers as a general rule. However, my research in > Fayette and Union Counties of the state of Indiana leads me to believe > that at least Thomas and Benjamin Strong were of Methodist persuasion, > both being buried in the M.E. Methodist Cemetery. > > Thomas, Benjamin, Richard, were all farmers. I cannot find what > Nathaniel's occupation was. > > I have no maternal or distaff information on these families yet. I'm > still trying to find the Strong connection. > > The only "link" I have to Ireland is the passage in a "Fayette County > History" that indicates the grandfather of Richard was from the Emerald > Isle. Richard was born (1790) in VA, but I don't have any idea where > his grandfather landed in this country. > > I do find the map of the area where I found both a Nathaniel and a > Thomas Strong in extreme Western PA to be interesting because a circle > 10 miles from the center would include three states--OH,VA, and PA. > There were two other Strong families in Washington County of PA in the > 1810 Census as well: Peter and John of Donegall Township. Nathaniel > and Thomas were of Finley Township. Given the names, it would seem an > Irish heritage is likely. > > Rene' > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ====
Dave: Thank you very much for your response. It was extremely informative and interesting. I've no doubt my Strong ancestors would fall into the category of poor Irish immigrants. I guess that makes the search that much more interesting--albeit difficult to impossible. I'm seriously considering a trip into Indiana and Illinois in the next several months to work on this issue, and maybe I'll find my way over to W. VA, PA area as well. I do wish they had been a little more literate...at least about geography. In the ten years between the 1850 and 1860 census, two of the people listed as having been born in Penn. changed to MD and VA...... or perhaps they WERE covering tracks! Thanks again for the information. Rene'
Hello Gerard... I've got two records (#s912 and 1821) in the Irish Strong database relating to a Rev. Charles Strong in County Cavan. The records date from 1843 and 1849, and relate to the transfer of lands; Rev. Strong was one of several people joining in a deed grant. The records are derived from the Index maintained in the Registrar of Deeds in Dublin. I don't have the particulars of the actual deeds, but can forward index details if you wish. I suspect your Charles Strong is not the same individual... but he may be related. I will also copy this message to several other researchers whom I am aware have an interest in the Strongs of County Cavan... of whom there were a great many. I'm not aware of any premature graying in the line, but then I don't personally know any of those folks... perhaps they will recognize the characteristic. Incidentally, there is some ongoing research involving the Cavan lineages trying to determine whether there are any links to certain Stronges in Counties Down and Wicklow. Perhaps you will be able to provide a few insights re the research! {:-) FYI, most, if not all of the Cavan Stronges were either Church of Ireland (Anglican) or Presbyterian. I am not aware of any Catholics, altho there may have been some. You many wish to take a look at the following website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/cavan.htm Let me know if you see anything there which jogs your memory. {:-) Regards Dave Strong =============== ----- Original Message ----- From: G S <gstronguk@yahoo.co.uk> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: [STRONG] Surname Strong > > My name is Gerard Strong. I am the youngest of ten children. My father was Charles Strong, and I believe his father had the same name. My father was born in Glasgow, Scotland, in the early years of the last century. > > My grandfather came from Cavan, in County Cavan, and my father used to say that his family had been involved with the maintenance and upkeep of the Catholic Church/?cathedral in that town. > > I know nothing of my grandfather's family, and I estimate that he must have emigrated to Glasgow around 1880-1890. > > There are a number of genetic identifiers which I assume might feature in any other branches of the branch of the family connected to us. Most notable is the tendency to develop grey hair at an early age. > > I would be interested to hear from any Strongs out there who hear any bells ringing from this information. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalised at My Yahoo!. > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ========================================================
Dave: I don't have many answers to your questions. In fact, I have more questions than answers as a general rule. However, my research in Fayette and Union Counties of the state of Indiana leads me to believe that at least Thomas and Benjamin Strong were of Methodist persuasion, both being buried in the M.E. Methodist Cemetery. Thomas, Benjamin, Richard, were all farmers. I cannot find what Nathaniel's occupation was. I have no maternal or distaff information on these families yet. I'm still trying to find the Strong connection. The only "link" I have to Ireland is the passage in a "Fayette County History" that indicates the grandfather of Richard was from the Emerald Isle. Richard was born (1790) in VA, but I don't have any idea where his grandfather landed in this country. I do find the map of the area where I found both a Nathaniel and a Thomas Strong in extreme Western PA to be interesting because a circle 10 miles from the center would include three states--OH,VA, and PA. There were two other Strong families in Washington County of PA in the 1810 Census as well: Peter and John of Donegall Township. Nathaniel and Thomas were of Finley Township. Given the names, it would seem an Irish heritage is likely. Rene'
Rene... Back to Richard Strong... can you answer the questions I posed earlier about him? There are a few more Richards than Alberts in the database! {:-) Dave ========== ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' E. Breitkreutz <rene1111@gci.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong-- Albert Sr. from Ireland > Dave: > > Thank you for your questions-- I'll do my best to answer them. > > >I am wondering how you got to Albert Strong,sr, in progressing from > >your earlier research as detailed in the message of Jan 7,2002, pasted > >in below? > > I was cleaning off my desk and found an email I had saved from 1999. It > was from a Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett, but their return address no > longer works, so I put the question to you. > > Their email indicates "The Strong family I know about came from Ireland, > to perhaps Virginia, then to Guernsey County, Ohio in about 1830, then > to Cumberland County, Illinois in 1861." > > In reading this again, it occurs to me that I made an error in > interpreting the dates, and it is likely this Albert didn't arrive as > early as I thought. > > > 1) How do you know that Albert Strong,SR, was from Ireland? > > email from Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett > > 2) How, if at all, is he related to the earlier individuals you > listed... Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William, etc? > > He probably isn't. I have a local county history (Fayette, IN) > indicating that Richard's grandfather came over from the "Emerald Isle", > and that's where I'm getting Ireland. However, my misinterpretation of > the dates probably eliminates him as a candidate for being related to > the group I mentioned earlier. > > (Do you have anything on that group? I didn't see a reply.) > > 3) Do you know what his occupation was? No > > 4) Do you know what his religion was? No > > Sorry to have so little for you. As I mentioned, this was a email that > I had saved and found last night. It really doesn't seem to connect to > my group, but perhaps you know the people who sent the email to me. > They indicated they had quite a bit of information, and I'm sure they'd > contribute it. > > Rene' > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > STRONG FAMILY ASSOCIATON OF AMERICA (SFAA) web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715 > > Strong(e)s of Somerset, Dorset, and Devon Counties, England, > including ancestors of "Elder" John Strong; queries about > descendants of "Elder" John Strong answered by the SFAA > Historian, Robert Sheldon ("Bob") Strong, from his extensive > electronic database. > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Thanks, Rene: No, I don't know the Garretts... never heard of them. If they are members of the list, or if someone else knows how to contact them, please let me know. I took another look at the Irish Strong Database. There actually are only 4 records relating to an Albert Strong... and I think they really involve just two individuals. One from Kings County, Ireland, and one from County Donegal, Ireland. Sorry this lead didn't work out for you... but I do hope that somehow we can find the Garretts. It seems possible we may be able to help each other. Regards Dave Strong ===================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' E. Breitkreutz <rene1111@gci.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong-- Albert Sr. from Ireland > Dave: > > Thank you for your questions-- I'll do my best to answer them. > > >I am wondering how you got to Albert Strong,sr, in progressing from > >your earlier research as detailed in the message of Jan 7,2002, pasted > >in below? > > I was cleaning off my desk and found an email I had saved from 1999. It > was from a Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett, but their return address no > longer works, so I put the question to you. > > Their email indicates "The Strong family I know about came from Ireland, > to perhaps Virginia, then to Guernsey County, Ohio in about 1830, then > to Cumberland County, Illinois in 1861." > > In reading this again, it occurs to me that I made an error in > interpreting the dates, and it is likely this Albert didn't arrive as > early as I thought. > > > 1) How do you know that Albert Strong,SR, was from Ireland? > > email from Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett > > 2) How, if at all, is he related to the earlier individuals you > listed... Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William, etc? > > He probably isn't. I have a local county history (Fayette, IN) > indicating that Richard's grandfather came over from the "Emerald Isle", > and that's where I'm getting Ireland. However, my misinterpretation of > the dates probably eliminates him as a candidate for being related to > the group I mentioned earlier. > > (Do you have anything on that group? I didn't see a reply.) > > 3) Do you know what his occupation was? No > > 4) Do you know what his religion was? No > > Sorry to have so little for you. As I mentioned, this was a email that > I had saved and found last night. It really doesn't seem to connect to > my group, but perhaps you know the people who sent the email to me. > They indicated they had quite a bit of information, and I'm sure they'd > contribute it. > > Rene'
Hello Rene.... I am wondering how you got to Albert Strong,sr, in progressing from your earlier research as detailed in the message of Jan 7,2002, pasted in below? Some questions: 1) How do you know that Albert Strong,SR, was from Ireland? 2) How, if at all, is he related to the earlier individuals you listed... Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William, etc? 3) Do you know what his occupation was? 4) Do you know what his religion was? 5) You indicate mid to late 18th century as the time of immigration... based on what? 6) He came over to where? 7) Who was Albert, JR? 8) Do you know anything about the distaff side of the equation? Eg, it is possible the given names "Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William" may come from the mother's side of the family at some point... and that could be important in analyzing the data. In the over 3800 records in the Irish Strong Data Base, I have only about 5 or 6 records relating to an Albert Strong... but in the early 19th century. Thus, he is likely not the same individual. However, given names tended to run in families. It is possible there may be some connection... but we need a bit more insight to make the connection hypothesis. Let me know. Regards Dave Strong ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' E. Breitkreutz <rene1111@gci.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: [STRONG] Strong-- Albert Sr. from Ireland > Does anyone have any information on this line. I am looking > specifically for a list of his children. He would have come over mid to > late 1700's I think. > > Thanks for your help. > > Rene' > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rene' E. Breitkreutz" <rene1111@gci.net> > > To: <litefoot@iowatelecom.net> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:12 PM > > Subject: [Fwd: STRONG] > > > > > "Rene' E. Breitkreutz" wrote: > > > > > > > Hello: > > > > > > > > My name is Rene' Breitkreutz, and I live in Anchorage, AK. I have been > > > > researching Strong families in Fayette and Union Counties, Indiana for > > > > several years. > > > > > > > > I actually began my research in Illinois tracing my grandfather, George > > > > W. Strong. His father was William Strong. The "ease" of my research > > > > stopped cold at that point but there are several interesting clues. A > > > > Moses Strong died in Jasper County, leaving probate records. His wife > > > > at the time of his death was Nancy Bowers. However, a Sarah Strong died > > > > in Jasper County in 1851. Moses Strong was born in Indiana as was > > > > William, and Pension papers for William indicate his birthplace was > > > > "Connersville", IN. > > > > > > > > A Moses Strong married a Sarah Baden in Union County, 1826. William was > > > > born 1830-31. The 1840 Census shows Moses living in Shelby Co., but he > > > > doesn't appear in the 1850 Census. > > > > > > > > My research took me back to the earlies Strong families in Fayette and > > > > Union Counties, and in 1820, there was a Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, > > > > and William. > > > > > > > > I have traced these families to about 1850 to see who the father of > > > > Moses would be and I "believe", though I cannot yet prove, that Moses > > > > was likely a son of Nathaniel Sr. I think it's very possible that > > > > Richard was Nathaniel's son as well. > > > > > > > > I would be happy to share the information I have, but the point of my > > > > email to you is to ask if anyone has information on the line above > > > > Richard. > > > > > > > > I saw in a Fayette County History, that Richard was born in Virginia > > > > (1790) and that he came to IN when he was a young boy (10-15). That > > > > means he would have come with his father. > > > > > > > > I found indications that Thomas was born in PA. (though the 1860 census > > > > says MD). > > > > Interestingly, there is an Elizabeth Strong in the 1790 PA (Washington > > > > County) Census listing two males in the household. In 1810, Washington > > > > County, Finley Township, PA, there are both a Nathaniel and a Thomas. > > > > > > > > I was confused by this since Richard is said to have been born in VA, > > > > until I looked at a map of Washington County and Finley Township. > > > > Finley lies at the border of PA and VA. > > > > > > > > I suppose this is long and confusing, but I thought you might find it of > > > > interest, and I'm hopeful you know more than I do regarding the > > > > Strongs. I'd love to confirm some of my theories, but am simply too far > > > > away to make too many trips that far from home. > > > > > > > > Hope to hear from you soon! > > > > > > > > Rene'
Dave: Thank you for your questions-- I'll do my best to answer them. >I am wondering how you got to Albert Strong,sr, in progressing from >your earlier research as detailed in the message of Jan 7,2002, pasted >in below? I was cleaning off my desk and found an email I had saved from 1999. It was from a Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett, but their return address no longer works, so I put the question to you. Their email indicates "The Strong family I know about came from Ireland, to perhaps Virginia, then to Guernsey County, Ohio in about 1830, then to Cumberland County, Illinois in 1861." In reading this again, it occurs to me that I made an error in interpreting the dates, and it is likely this Albert didn't arrive as early as I thought. 1) How do you know that Albert Strong,SR, was from Ireland? email from Grover S. and Carol L. Garrett 2) How, if at all, is he related to the earlier individuals you listed... Richard, Nathaniel, Thomas, Benjamin, and William, etc? He probably isn't. I have a local county history (Fayette, IN) indicating that Richard's grandfather came over from the "Emerald Isle", and that's where I'm getting Ireland. However, my misinterpretation of the dates probably eliminates him as a candidate for being related to the group I mentioned earlier. (Do you have anything on that group? I didn't see a reply.) 3) Do you know what his occupation was? No 4) Do you know what his religion was? No Sorry to have so little for you. As I mentioned, this was a email that I had saved and found last night. It really doesn't seem to connect to my group, but perhaps you know the people who sent the email to me. They indicated they had quite a bit of information, and I'm sure they'd contribute it. Rene'
"Rene' E. Breitkreutz" wrote: > Does anyone have any information on this line. I am looking > specifically for a list of his children. He would have come over mid to > late 1700's I think. > > Thanks for your help. > > Rene' >
Does anyone have any information on this line. I am looking specifically for a list of his children. He would have come over mid to late 1700's I think. Thanks for your help. Rene'
The only Mosher/Strong connection I can find is Gladys Mosher m. Herbert William Strong 1909 in Kansas City. Sandy Lubbock TX sbh3@juno.com
Hi every one, I found this book in our NZ libraries hoping that it may help me break a few walls down, but unfortunately they are of no relation. So here is a few details - they may help some one else. Know it is long so forgive me for that. Pam http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shamere/index.html William STRONG b. 1752 England, m. 26 Oct 1786 Bishops Waltham Hampshire England, D. Dec 1837 (aged 85 years) Elizabeth JONES bpt 6 Dec 1765 Bishops Waltham. Children: William STRONG Bpt 20 July 1787 Portsea St Marys, d. Dec 1859 (aged 72 years) Thomas STRONG Bpt 24 Dec 1788 Bishops Waltham, d. Feb 1831 (aged 42 years) Mary Kernott STRONG Bpt 14 May 1790 Portsea St Marys Rebecca Emma STRONG Bpt 17 Sept 1793 Portsea St John Catherine STRONG b. 29 march 1795, Bpt 12 May 1795 Portsea St John Augusta Bloodworth STRONG b. 29 Mar 1797, Bpt 5 Jan 1802 Portsea St John Samuel STRONG b. 25 Oct 1801 Bpt 5 Jan 1802 Portsea St John, d. Nov 1876 Joseph Thompson STRONG b. 3 June 1803, Bpt 21 June 1803 Portsea St John. d. May 1872 Allen Gardener STRONG b. 24 Nov 1807, Bpt 22 Dec 1807 Portsea St John Francis Fairfax Moresby STRONG b. 6 Mar 1810, Bpt 12 Jan 1815 Portsea St John, d. July 1866 ********************************************* William STRONG Bpt 20 July 1787, d. 18 Dec 1859 Kingston Portsea Island, m. 12 Feb 1834 Alverstoke Hampshire, Louisa HORN b. 1807 Portchester Hampshire, d. 14 Jun 1864 Landport Portsea Island. Children: James William STRONG, Bpt. 7 Mar 1830 Portsea (as James William HORN son of Louisa HORN) m. Mary Ann ---- (children) Luisa Mary STRONG, Bpt 31 July 1853 Portsea. Louisa Elizabeth Augusta STRONG, Bpt 1 Feb 1835 Portchester William Francis STRONG, Bpt 16 Oct 1836 Portsea, d. 3 Feb 1837 Portsea. Anna Rebecca STRONG, Bpt 28 Feb 1838 Portsea Alan Moresby STRONG, b. Ap/Jun 1840 Portsea, d. 7 Sept 1850 Portsea Alfred Nicholson STRONG, b. Jul/Sept 1842 Portsea Joseph Trounsell STRONG, b. Oct/Dec 1845 Portsea, d. Oct/Dec 1899 Pontypridd Wales Charles Thompson STRONG, b. Oct/Dec 1847 Portsea. ******************************************* Thomas STRONG, Bpt 24 Dec 1788, d. 4 Feb 1831 Swanage Dorset, m. 24 Jun 1817 Studland Dorset Sarah TALBOTT, Bpt 6 Apr 1795 Studland Dorset. Children: Thomas Yrounsell Talbott STRONG, Bpt 17 Sept 1820 Studland Dorset Richard Sidney Charles STRONG, Bpt 11 May 1825 Swanage Dorset. ********************************************** Catherine STRONG b. 29th Mar 1795, m. 9 Apr 1839 Portsea Richard Adams NICHOLSON *********************************************** Augusta Bloodworth STRONG b. 23 Feb 1797, d. 12 Apr 1882 Taunton Somerset, m 12 Aug 1834 Portsea William DEWEY Bpt 23 AUg 1801 Fareham Hampshire, d. 5 Jan 1864 Islington Middlesex. Children: Catherine DEWET Bpt 28 Jan 1836 Portsea Elizabeth Augusta DEWEY b. Apr/Jun 1838 Portsea, m. Oct/Dec 1863 George F. SINGLETON b. 1839 (children) Elizabeth SINGLETON b. Jan/Mar 1865 Taunton. William Francis DEWEY, Jan/Mar 1839, d. 17 Sept 1915 Middlesex, m. 19 Aug 1873 Coventry Warwick, Emily Gibbon MARSTON b. 1849 (children) Annie Augusta DEWEY b, Jul/Aug 1873, d. Oct/Dec 1873 Leicester - Margaret DEWEY b. Jul/Sep 1874 Islington - Marston DEWEY b. Oct/Dec 1875 Inslington - Bessie DEWEY b. Apr/Jun 1877 Islington - Allan DEWEY b. Oct/Dec 1878 Islington - Edward William DEWEY b. Oct/Dec 1879 Islington - Leonard DEWEY b. Jul/Sep 1881 Islington. ********************************************************** Joseph Thompson STRONG b. 3 Jun 1803, d. 6 May 1872 Islington, m. 30 Oct 1830 Hamble Hampshire Anna S. AYLING b. 1802 Hamble d. Jul/Sep 1881 Hackney London. Children: Anna Ayling STRONG Bpt 5 Feb 1832 Hamble, d. 19 Nov 1836 Portsea Frances Lucy STRONG Bpt 1 Jul 1833 Portsea, d. Jan/Mar 1892 Hackney. Sarah Elizabeth STRONG Bpt 23 Jun 1835 Portsea, d. Jul/Sep 1906 Hackney Jessie STRONG b. 1839 Sheppey Kent, d. Oct/Dec 1866 Chichester Sussex Ellen B. STRONG b. 1842 Sheppey Kent, d. Apr/Jun 1922 London Francis William STRONG b. Jan/Mar 1843 Taunton, Jan/Mar 1881 Thornbury, m. Jan/Mar 1874 Islington Jane DAVIS b. 1841 Paddington, d. Jan/Mar 1929 Islington (Children) Sidney William STRONG b. Oct/Dec 1874 Islington, d. 3 Mar 1931 Islington, m. Jul/Sep 1901 Hackney Grace MILTON b. 18 Jan 1880 Islington, d. Jan/Mar 1975 Chichester (children) Francis Milton STRONG b. Jul/Sep 1902 Islington, m. Gwyneth PATERSON (child) Dilys STRONG m. Ewart LOUCKS (children) Sandra LOUCKS m. Peter NOVAK (child) Chelsea VOVAK - David LOUCKS - Helen STRONG b. Jul/Sep 1907 Islington. ********************************* Francis Fairfax Moresby STRONG b. 6 Mar 1810, d. 19 Jul 1866 Poplar London, m. (1) 5 Jan 1837 Portsmouth Southampton Frances Anne LONEY Bpt 5 Mar 1813 Portsea. m. (2) 30 Mar 1863 Stepney Middlesex Mary Elizabeth TOMPKINS. ****************************************** Samuel STRONG b. 25 Oct 1801 Portsea, d. 11 Nov 1876 Bognor Sussex, m. 1 Sep 1831 Southampton Emma HARFORD b. 21 Sep 1809 Gillingham Kent, d. 8 Jul 1865 Monken Hadley Middlesex. Children: Emma Marianne STRONG Bpt 27 Oct 1832 Monken Hadley, d. 14 Apr 1905 Ipswich Sufflok Elizabeth Frances Georgina STRONG Bpt. 29 Dec 1834 Monken Hadley, d. 2 Nov 1865 Taunton Somerset Lavina STRONG Bpt. 2 Jul 1837 Monken, d. 28 Oct 1903 Ruishton Somerset, m. 11 Jun 1872 South Bersted Bognor William BUSWELL, (children) William Frederick Rdward BUSWELL b. 31 Mar 1873 Chertsey Surrey, Lavina Mary BUSWELL b. Jul/Sep 1876 Guisbro Yorkshire Henry Harford STRONG b. 11 Jan 1840 Monken, d. 13 Sep 1882 Tel-el-Kebir Egypt. m. 25 Sep 1872 Kent Mary Isabel LLOYD (children) Henry Stuart STRONG, b. Oct/Dec 1873 Birkenhead Cheshire m. 1904 Subbington Hampshire Margaret Ellen FOSTER, Frederick Lewis Harford STRONG b. Ap/Jun 1875 Bognor m. 1903 Alverstoke Margaret Frances MEADE. Mary Mabel STRONG b. Jan/Mar 1877 Alverstoke, d. Jul/Sep 1925 ALverstoke.Ernest Edward STRONG b. Apr/Jun 1879 Alverstoke, James Douglas STRONG b. Jan/Mar 1881 ALverstoke Clara Worthey STRONG b. Jul/Sep 1843 Monken, d. 1 Sep 1928 Grundisburgh Suffolk. m. 16 Apr 1874 Bognor Henry ROUND-TURNER Catherine STRONG b. Jan/Mar 1847 Minken, d. 19 Dec 1882 Bognor Sessex Samuel Edward Harford STRONG b. 6 May 1852 Monkrn, d. 23 Jan 1922 Auckland NZ. m. 8 Nov 1884 Sydney Australia Catherine Agnes KELLY b. 1863 Aberdeen Scotland, d. 31 oct 1944 Auckland NZ (Children) Clara Catherine STRONG b. 17 Jul 1886 Auckland NZ, d. 14 May 1964 Auckland NZ. m. 13 oct 1913 Arthur Walter Theodore POOLEY, Samuel STRONG b. 15 Nov 1887 Herekino NZ d. 6 Jul 1962 Adelaide Australia m. 17 Apr 1912 Agnes PETERS b. 1882, d. 26 Mar 1962 Adelaide Aust. Nora Emma STRONG b. 24 Jan 1890 Mongonui NZ, d. 21 Sep 1973 AUckland NZ, m. 14 Apr 1919 Victor OGILVIE b. 26 Ju; 1884 Dendigo Aust d. 22 Nov 1943 Auckland NZ, Henry Harford STRONG b 13 Sep 1891 Mongonui NZ, d. 15 Sep 1916 France.Lavina Maud STRONG b. 22 Apr 1894 Mangonui NZ, d. 18 Feb 1969 Auckland NZ, m. 24 Nov 1920 Maurice Robert O'CALLAGHAN b. 26 Jun 1895 Christchurch NZ d. 1 Mar 1959 Auckland NZ, Albert Edward STRONG b. 23 May 1895 Mangonui NZ , d. 16 May 1966 Auckland NZ, Sydney John STRONG b. 22 Dec 1896 Mangonui ! NZ d. 4 APr 1977 Auckland NZ, m. 3 Jan 1921 Mildred Florence KIMPTON b. 12 Jan 1898 St Albans England, d. 27 Nov 1988 Auckland NZ, Emily Ellen STRONG b. 5 Jun 1899 Mangonui NZ, d. 10 nov 1976 Auckland NZ, m. 27 Dec 1922 John Douglas MACKINVEN b. 1898 Rosario Argentine, d. 1968 Auckland NZ.
You may make a connection on the following url http://www.geocities.com/sfaapage/thomas.html In my data I have three Adelaide's, but no Cornelia. Have you checked the family of Charles Strong Leavenworth, KS? I would to know more on the lady! Jim jgilbert@hiwaay.net At 04:06 AM 3/20/01 -0800, you wrote: > >I am searching for parents and siblings of Cornelia Strong. She >has been a long standing brick wall. Any help would be appreciated. >Thank you, >Carolynn >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Descendants of Cornelia Adelaid Strong > > >Generation No. 1 > > 1. Cornelia Adelaid1 Strong was born 1838 in Michigan, and >died 3 May 1898 in Tonganoxie, Leavenworth Co., Kansas. She >married Edward B. Strickland 5 Jul 1859 in Lenawee County, Michigan. > He was born 1836, and died Jan 1911 in Kansas. > >Notes for Cornelia Adelaid Strong: >1. Died of Jaundice. Buried on Lot 194, Sec 8 in Oak Hill Cemetery. >2. Headstone reads: Cornelia, wife of E. B. Strickland. > >Database: Michigan Census, 1827-70 >1850/STRONG/CORNELIA/Lenawee County/MI/131/Tecumseh/Federal Population >Schedule >MI 1850 Federal Census Index/MIS7a5196735 >1850/STRONG/CORNELIA/Lenawee County/MI/131/Tecumseh/Federal Population >Schedule >MI 1850 Federal Census Index/MIS7a5196736 > >More About Cornelia Adelaid Strong: >Burial: Oak Hill Cemetery, Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS > >Notes for Edward B. Strickland: >1. Buried at Lot 194 Sec. 8, died of Paralysis. >2. Census found for Edward B. Strickland. >3. Lived in Tonganoxie, KS. according to Cornelia's Will. >4. Has three children according to Cornelia's Will. >5. According to Cornelia's Will, they owned a house and store >in >Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS. > >1860/STRICKLAND/EDWARD/Hillsdale County/MI/638/Cambria/Federal >Population Schedule/MI/1860 Federal Census Index/MI54284747 >Database: Full Context of Michigan Business Directory, 1863 >Hammond A & Co, (Allen Hammond and Edward B Strickland), general >store, >Broad. >HILLSDALE. page 343 >Edward B. Strickland, >Spouse: Cornelia Strong >International Genealogical Index > >More About Edward B. Strickland: >Burial: 11 Jan 1911, Oak Hill Cemetery, Lawrence, Douglas Co., >KS > >Children of Cornelia Strong and Edward Strickland are: > 2 i. Earl B.2 Strickland. He married (1) Grace Emma Wolcott; >born 1874; died 1915. He married (2) Cora. > >More About (1) Grace Emma Wolcott: >Burial: Oak Hill Cemetery, Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS > >+ 3 ii. Eloise Ward Strickland. >+ 4 iii. Francis "Frank" Lister Strickland, born 17 Nov 1861 >in Cambria, Hillsdale Co., MI; died 24 Jan 1939 in Kansas City, >MO. > > >Generation No. 2 > > 3. Eloise Ward2 Strickland (Cornelia Adelaid1 Strong*) She >married Mr. Farrar. > >Child of Eloise Strickland and Mr. Farrar is: > 5 i. Robert (Robbie) E.3 Farrar, born 1888; died 1891 in Kansas. > >More About Robert (Robbie) E. Farrar: >Burial: Oak Hill Cemetery, Lawrence, Douglas Co., KS > > > 4. Francis "Frank" Lister2 Strickland (Cornelia Adelaid1 Strong) >was born 17 Nov 1861 in Cambria, Hillsdale Co., MI, and died >24 Jan 1939 in Kansas City, MO. He married Anna Lenora Armstrong >13 Sep 1887 in Valley Falls, Linn County, Congregational Church, >Kansas, daughter of Edwin Armstrong and Margaret Dickey. She >was born 6 Aug 1869 in Oxford Township, Chester Co., PA., and >died 16 Apr 1946 in Richmond, CA.. > > > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ==== >======================================================== >Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, >England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry >of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. >http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer >========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
In a message dated 1/10/2002 5:44:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbh3@juno.com writes: << What GILES are we talking about? Sandy Hunt(Hannah descendant) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>HI SANDY! :) 'My' Giles, who is the farthest descendent I can trace on my STRONG branch... Per census' he was born in MA, 'we' (there are quite a few of 'us' on this particular branch) have estimated his date of birth as 1788 -give or take very few years . Giles appears to have come out of no where..with no parents! He married Elizabeth "Betsy' MOSHER in 1816 in NY. They had several children (Lectia, Rhoda, Lavinia, John Martin-my branch, Charles, Wilheimis aka Willie, and Sarah). As you know, families tend to 'recycle' names as is VERY evident, especially in my STRONG branch.... I know there is another "Giles" out there but the time frames are waaaaay off, stil I was in hopes they might be connected in some way (in hopes that in the recycling of names, perhaps the other one was a cousin or nephew!). ~Rene! :)
What GILES are we talking about? Sandy Hunt(Hannah descendant)
Rene... Just a piece of wild speculation... IF the SFAA folks are unable to come up with a Giles Strong in the various Elder John lineages coming out of Massachusetts... You might consider looking in ENGLISH records for him. Giles is an English given name; there WERE other Strongs landing in Boston from England (and Ireland and Scotland) who were not Elder John descendants; and it might just have been easier to tell the census takers that he was born in Massachusetts than to explain how he made entry to the US and when. He might even have entered via another place altogether. And, remember... in that time there were no border guards, etc. Where are the census records you mention from? Are they Massachusetts records, or are they from another state? And when are they from... what year? As to what English records to look in... I suggest you start with the Free BMD records at Rootsweb. THe actual BMD records do not go as far back as 1788. However, you might find a few links to other sites. And, Pam Pakes might have a few suggestions where to look. There were a lot of Strongs in Southwest England... and others elsewhere as well. Good Luck Dave Strong RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ==========================================================
In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, rptrick@home.com writes: << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA on a census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :)
I can only suggest looking in towns that have Mosher ----- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Rene, not being an expert, I can only suggest looking in towns that have Moshers and Strongs. Maybe you can connect to the wife's family. Paula ---- Original Message ----- From: <C2it20670@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] (Strong) Giles, b. 1788 MA > In a message dated 1/8/2002 8:35:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rptrick@home.com writes: > > << Where in MA was Giles born in 1788? >> > > To be quite honest, we're clueless! We found his birth place simply as MA > on a > census or two....ANY suggestions? ~Rene! :) > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > >