Hello Deirdre... I will let Nicola respond further concerning her research of the connection of the South Africa Strongs to the Stonemason Strongs. However, for now, if you can lay your hands on the Strong Family Association of America's Vol. 5 of the update to Benjamin Dwight's 19th century compilation of the descendants of Elder John Strong of Massachusetts, you will find a listing of the descendants of a certain Timothy Strong, who was the "patriarch" of the family of Stonemasons who supplied stone from quarries in southwest England for the building of St. Paul's Cathedral in London. Note, Vol. 5 contains a compilation of certain Strong lineages, most of which DO NOT descend from Elder John Strong. The following link will lead you to a reproduction of the table of contents of Vol 5: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/sfaavol5.html You will find Timothy Strong listed near the end of the contents, with the following link to Martha Strong's webpage re the Stonemason Strongs. Martha has reproduced a portion of the descendancy found in Vol 5 for Timothy Strong. See: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715/stpaulstr.html I would be interested to learn from either you or Nicola whether "the line of THOMAS, brother to Sir T. Veezey Strong, Lord Mayor of London (1910 /11)" can be linked to the Stonemason descendants of Timothy Strong, and how the lineage descends to the South African Strongs of today. Also, if ANYONE is aware of a living male Strong who is a proven descendant of the Timothy Strong lineage, it would be very interesting and most helpful if that person could participate in the DNA Study. Please let me know. Regards Dave Strong ... webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Snook" <paul@snook30.fsnet.co.uk> To: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net>; <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA > Nicola > > I am doing research on behalf of an aunt in South Africa. She is a STRONG > through the line of THOMAS, brother to Sir T. Veezey Strong, Lord Mayor of > London (1910 /11) > > However, I have not found out much about that line so any help would be most > welcome. > > Regards > Deirdré Snook > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:05 AM > Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA > > > > Hi Nicola.... > > > > Thanks for your message, below. So far, we have not had any DNA Study > > participants from your line... the South Africa - British Stonemason > > lineage. Do you have a male Strong relative in South Africa whom you > > could ask to participate in the study? We would welcome such an > > addition... and it would be a step in the right direction for proving the > > relationships between your South African family, the Stonemasons of St. > > Paul's Cathedral, and possibly the Irish County Wicklow-Dublin Strongs and > > other Strongs of Southwest England and beyond! Any help you can give > would > > be appreciated! > > > > Regards > > Dave Strong ... > > webmaster: > > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > & > > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > > related families. > > ============================================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nicola" <Nicola@bestfootforward.com> > > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:06 AM > > Subject: [STRONG] Strong DNA > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm still trying to find a reliable link between my family (who know > live > > in > > > South Africa) and the Strong's who were stonemasons (worked on St Paul's > > etc > > > etc). I am getting there - thanks to a bit of intuition. However, some > > > sort of DNA analysis would be ideal. I would like to know if there are > > any > > > British/South African Strong's considering handing over their DNA for > the > > > study? Await results with interest. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Nicola Jenkin (+Strong) > > > > > > PS. For the past 2 years I have been conducting research on the Strong > > > stonemasons - there is so much to piece together. I am hoping to > publish > > > something by the end of next year, or thereabouts. If anyone is > > interested, > > > please get in touch. > > > > > > Nicola Jenkin > > > 44c Rectory Road > > > Oxford > > > England > > > e-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > > ======================================================== > > > THE STRONG GENEALOGY NETWORK web site: > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5744/ > > > > > > Register of Strong ancestors, by location. > > > Links to websites with Strong data (GEDCOM to HTML) > > > ========================================================== > > > >

Hi Nicola.... Thanks for your message, below. So far, we have not had any DNA Study participants from your line... the South Africa - British Stonemason lineage. Do you have a male Strong relative in South Africa whom you could ask to participate in the study? We would welcome such an addition... and it would be a step in the right direction for proving the relationships between your South African family, the Stonemasons of St. Paul's Cathedral, and possibly the Irish County Wicklow-Dublin Strongs and other Strongs of Southwest England and beyond! Any help you can give would be appreciated! Regards Dave Strong ... webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicola" <Nicola@bestfootforward.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: [STRONG] Strong DNA > Hi, > > I'm still trying to find a reliable link between my family (who know live in > South Africa) and the Strong's who were stonemasons (worked on St Paul's etc > etc). I am getting there - thanks to a bit of intuition. However, some > sort of DNA analysis would be ideal. I would like to know if there are any > British/South African Strong's considering handing over their DNA for the > study? Await results with interest. > > Best wishes > Nicola Jenkin (+Strong) > > PS. For the past 2 years I have been conducting research on the Strong > stonemasons - there is so much to piece together. I am hoping to publish > something by the end of next year, or thereabouts. If anyone is interested, > please get in touch. > > Nicola Jenkin > 44c Rectory Road > Oxford > England > e-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG GENEALOGY NETWORK web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5744/ > > Register of Strong ancestors, by location. > Links to websites with Strong data (GEDCOM to HTML) > ==========================================================

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Hi, I'm still trying to find a reliable link between my family (who know live in South Africa) and the Strong's who were stonemasons (worked on St Paul's etc etc). I am getting there - thanks to a bit of intuition. However, some sort of DNA analysis would be ideal. I would like to know if there are any British/South African Strong's considering handing over their DNA for the study? Await results with interest. Best wishes Nicola Jenkin (+Strong) PS. For the past 2 years I have been conducting research on the Strong stonemasons - there is so much to piece together. I am hoping to publish something by the end of next year, or thereabouts. If anyone is interested, please get in touch. Nicola Jenkin 44c Rectory Road Oxford England e-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02

Hello Everyone, I took up Dave's suggestion of getting my wife to give me a DNA test for Christmas. Money looms large for retired Biology teachers and school administrators and I needed a good selling point for my wife. However, as a Biology teacher, I had no hesitation about the value and possibilities of the test for the STRONG family. I hope that anyone hesitating out there takes the plunge... I'm sure exciting results are possible with a wide participation. Best regards, Philip Strong "STRONGs of Ulster,Ireland" http://www.pnc.com.au/~plstrong/ **Philip Strong**Email:plstrong@pnc.com.au**Blue Mountains, Australia** -- ************************************** Name : Philip Strong Email : plstrong@pnc.com.au Location: Blue Mountains Australia **************************************

trying to find relatives with a connection between James Strong and the Bartley families.. Margaret... Priscilla.. could they have been sisters???? Priscilla Bartley married Joseph Edwards, but somehow James Strong family is mix-married in there somewhere///??? this is where the teh "Allied Family comes in".. Any help appreciated.. LIZ and Thanks...

(Please address posts to STRONG-L@Roostweb.com) The following is from new list member Liz Farley. --- Merle & Liz Farley <frenchie@gwtc.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:20:46 -0700 > From: "Merle & Liz Farley" <frenchie@gwtc.net> > To: <STRONG-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: RE: James Strong > > Hi List: > > looking for some information on James Strong.. but > actually looking for Priscilla Bartley-Edwards, > SOMEHOW tied to the Strong's.. > Thanks -Liz in South Dakota > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Kay... Thanks for your interest in the DNA Study. It is early days for our study, and we don't yet have results to post on the web. However, we fully intend to publish the results. I suggest you take a look at the following "Test Results" page from the Hull family DNA Study for an example of how the results may be posted: http://www.hullsurnamednastudy.com/testresults1a.htm You will note on the Test Results page a link to pedigree charts for the haplotype groups which are found as a result of the test. The results should be VERY interesting when we get that far! {:-) The more test volunteers who sign up from the various lineages, the sooner we are likely to be able to produce something like this for the benefit of all. Please encourage participation where-ever possible! Thanks Dave Strong ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <PPathways@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: [STRONG] Strong DNA Test for Females > Concerning the Strong Study, > > If perhaps the results from the lines could be published somewhere on the web > site, it would be informative for the people who don't have any Strong males > in their immediate family. (they'll be able to tell if they are directly > related or not, by tracing back). > > I do know that I'm related to John Elder (history has been traced), but as my > grandmother's maiden name was Strong and her brothers didn't have any > children, I can't participate (I don't have any male Strongs in my line, and, > if so, they are so far removed that I can't find them anymore). > > This could help a lot of people, or if an alternate test could be purposed > for those of us who are female and have no male Strong relatives, it would be > appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Kay > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > ========================================================== > >

Concerning the Strong Study, If perhaps the results from the lines could be published somewhere on the web site, it would be informative for the people who don't have any Strong males in their immediate family. (they'll be able to tell if they are directly related or not, by tracing back). I do know that I'm related to John Elder (history has been traced), but as my grandmother's maiden name was Strong and her brothers didn't have any children, I can't participate (I don't have any male Strongs in my line, and, if so, they are so far removed that I can't find them anymore). This could help a lot of people, or if an alternate test could be purposed for those of us who are female and have no male Strong relatives, it would be appreciated. Thank you, Kay

Dear Dave, I would like to enter the DNA study on behalf of my husband's family. My husband is willing to participate plus I have four sons who would be willing to participate. (Too bad I can't loan one of the sons for the study). I have found it very frustrating that I can trace these Strongs back to 28 year old Clifton L Strong in the 1850 census in Campbell County, Virginia but have been unable to connect these Strongs to other Virginia Strongs. Clifton L Strong -- b 1822 or 1821 in Virginia Oden Clay Strong -- b 1845 in Virginia d 1891 Robert Fleming Strong -- b 1888 in Virginia d 1953 Robert Fleming Strong (changed name to Woodrow Fleming Strong) -- b 1910 in Virginia d 1983 Robert M. Strong -- b 1930 in Maryland Please let me know how to proceed. Thank you, Sharon Lafferty Strong

Hello All, Do you have any information on the following family? >From the 1860 US Census for Indiana, Dearborn City, Manchester Twp: Saml Strong, age 45, born about 1815 in Newfoundland, a Farmer Ann Strong, age 37, born about 1823 in Newfoundland Thomas Strong, age 16, born about 1844 in Newfoundland Deborah Strong, age 14, born about 1846 in Newfoundland Soloman Strong, age 12, born about 1848 in Newfoundland Mary Strong, age 10, born about 1850 in Newfoundland Martha Strong, age 8, born about 1852 in Newfoundland Frederick Strong, age 6, born about 1854 in Newfoundland Isabella Strong, age 4, born about 1856 in Indiana >From the 1880 US Census (LDS Web Site): (Indiana, Dearborn, Miller) Thomas Strong, born about 1845 in Newfoundland (Missouri, Newton, Marion) Solom F. Strong, born about 1848 in Newfoundland (Indiana, Dearborn, Miller) Frank Strong, born about 1855 in Newfoundland If this is the Samuel Strong I'm looking for then Ann may be his second wife. If true then Thomas, Deborah, and Soloman's mother could have been Mary Ann Strong who died December 31st 1848 and is buried at St. Peter's Anglican Church Cemetery in Twillingate, Newfoundland. Charles "Chaz" Strong lkstrong@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~lkstrong/

Nice post David. Have you written to the Strong Family Association of America, to have this published in their newsletter? There are probably at least some people who have subscriptions to that but are not online or at least don't read the lists regularly. I would be glad to write a little blurb to the editor as a subscriber if you have not done this already. Melinda Strong -----Original Message----- From: David B. Strong [mailto:dbstrong@sos.net] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:53 PM To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY: L'Estrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong Hello Everyone. Just a short note to remind you about the DNA Study: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm I don't want to bother people unduely about the subject, and I know the holiday season approaches. There are probably a number of potential participants who are concerned about the cost involved, particularly at this time of year. Think Christmas present! {:-) Perhaps someone out there can make a gift of the DNA test for their resident genealogist! And, remember, you have probably spent far more than this on research (although probably in smaller increments) in the past. The potential benefits may well outweigh the costs involved. Let me know if you have any questions, and what I can do to help complete the signup process for you. Regards Dave Strong ... webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== PS: The following was provided by Family Tree DNA. I thought you might find it interesting as an example of what we can accomplish thru the DNA Study: ================================== From: Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA November 21, 2002 Volume 1, Issue 5 Spot Light: Witt - Whitt Surname Project ====================================== Objective: Prove or disprove the genealogy research of the Witt / Whitt Line from Old Virginia There are three identified Lines or families of the Witt / Whitt surname in the US. One family Line that today spells their surname as both Witt and Whitt begins with German immigrants in both South Carolina and Pennsylvania in the early 1700s. A second family Line that today spells their surname as Witt and DeWitt, began in New England around 1640 with an English immigrant by the name of John Witt. The third family Line that today spells their surname as Witt and Whitt began with an individual named John Witt or Whitt, who first appears in early records in 1670 in colonial Virginia. The records relating to John show the spelling of his name both as Witt and as Whitt. It was from John Witt-Whitt that the Witt-Whitt Family of Old Virginia began. Early Virginia records, John Witt-Whitt was the father of at least four sons, John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. The participants in the Witt-Whitt Surname Project are all documented descendants of the 4 identified sons of John Witt-Whitt: John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. For each of these sons, at least two documented male descendants participated in the Project. All participants took the 25 marker test. The results for this Surname Project are that the majority of participants matched 25/25, and a few matched 24/25. Therefore, the Project has confirmed the genealogy research, and shows that the participants are related and have a common ancestor. When combined with surviving colonial Virginia records for the surnames Witt and Whitt, the Witt-Whitt DNA study determined John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt were brothers and their father was the immigrant John Witt-Whitt of Charles City County, Virginia. The Witt-Whitt DNA Surname Project also identified the common ancestor of these four men was from England, or possibly Scotland. (Note, for those unfamiliar with Scottish genealogy, a large percentage of "lowland" Scots have a similar ethnic origin to the English, and thus may have a common ancestry.) A DNA baseline for the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia has now been established. Other descendants who have incomplete records, or where records no longer exist and preclude the determination of a family's origin, may take the 25 marker DNA test to determine if they are related to the Witt-Whitt Line from old Virginia. If other descendants find that they match, they can contact one of the participants in the baseline study to share the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia ancestral history for their family line. The next phase of the Witt-Whitt surname project is to identify the county in England or Scotland from which John Witt-Whitt originated. =============================================================== Family Tree DNA encourages the circulation of "Facts & Genes" by newsletters and lists providing that you credit the author, include their copyright information (Copyright 2002, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.asp) as the source. ================================================================= Just a further comment: The foregoing Whitt DNA Study illustrates what we may be able to establish re the Virginia, or Southern Strongs, as well as the Virginia Strange families. The same point may be made with regard to many family lineages bearing our group of variant family surnames. Please sign up today! {:-) ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== ======================================================== Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer ==========================================================

Thanks for the suggestion, Melinda. I will reply further in a separate email to you. {:-) Regards, Dave ======================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melinda Strong" <mstrong@sfd-llc.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:41 AM Subject: RE: [STRONG] DNA STUDY: L'Estrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong > Nice post David. Have you written to the Strong Family Association of > America, to have this published in their newsletter? There are probably at > least some people who have subscriptions to that but are not online or at > least don't read the lists regularly. I would be glad to write a little > blurb to the editor as a subscriber if you have not done this already. > > Melinda Strong > > -----Original Message----- > From: David B. Strong [mailto:dbstrong@sos.net] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:53 PM > To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY: L'Estrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong > > Hello Everyone. > > Just a short note to remind you about the DNA Study: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > I don't want to bother people unduely about the subject, and I know the > holiday season > approaches. There are probably a number of potential participants who are > concerned about the cost involved, particularly at this time of year. > Think Christmas present! {:-) Perhaps someone out there can make a gift of > the DNA test for their resident genealogist! And, remember, you have > probably spent far more than this on research (although probably in smaller > increments) in the past. The potential benefits may well outweigh the > costs involved. > > Let me know if you have any questions, and what I can do to help complete > the signup process for you. > Regards > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > > PS: The following was provided by Family Tree DNA. I thought you might > find it interesting as an example of what we can accomplish thru the DNA > Study: > ================================== > From: Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA > November 21, 2002 Volume 1, Issue 5 > > Spot Light: Witt - Whitt Surname Project > ====================================== > > Objective: Prove or disprove the genealogy research of the Witt / Whitt > Line from Old Virginia > > There are three identified Lines or families of the Witt / Whitt surname > in the US. One family Line that today spells their surname as both Witt > and Whitt begins with German immigrants in both South Carolina and > Pennsylvania in the early 1700s. A second family Line that today spells > their surname as Witt and DeWitt, began in New England around 1640 with an > English immigrant by the name of John Witt. The third family Line that > today spells their surname as Witt and Whitt began with an individual > named John Witt or Whitt, who first appears in early records in 1670 in > colonial Virginia. The records relating to John show the spelling of his > name both as Witt and as Whitt. It was from John Witt-Whitt that the > Witt-Whitt Family of Old Virginia began. > > Early Virginia records, John Witt-Whitt was the father of at least four > sons, John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. > > The participants in the Witt-Whitt Surname Project are all documented > descendants of the 4 identified sons of John Witt-Whitt: John Witt II, > William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. For each of these sons, at > least two documented male descendants participated in the Project. All > participants took the 25 marker test. > > The results for this Surname Project are that the majority of participants > matched 25/25, and a few matched 24/25. Therefore, the Project has > confirmed the genealogy research, and shows that the participants are > related and have a common ancestor. > > When combined with surviving colonial Virginia records for the surnames > Witt and Whitt, the Witt-Whitt DNA study determined John Witt II, William > Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt were brothers and their father was > the immigrant John Witt-Whitt of Charles City County, Virginia. The > Witt-Whitt DNA Surname Project also identified the common ancestor of > these four men was from England, or possibly Scotland. (Note, for those > unfamiliar with Scottish genealogy, a large percentage of "lowland" Scots > have a similar ethnic origin to the English, and thus may have a common > ancestry.) > > A DNA baseline for the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia has now been > established. Other descendants who have incomplete records, or where > records no longer exist and preclude the determination of a family's > origin, may take the 25 marker DNA test to determine if they are related > to the Witt-Whitt Line from old Virginia. If other descendants find that > they match, they can contact one of the participants in the baseline study > to share the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia ancestral history for their > family line. > > The next phase of the Witt-Whitt surname project is to identify the county > in England or Scotland from which John Witt-Whitt originated. > > =============================================================== > Family Tree DNA encourages the circulation of "Facts & Genes" by newsletters > and lists > providing that you credit the author, include their copyright information > (Copyright 2002, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" > (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.asp) as the source. > ================================================================= > Just a further comment: > The foregoing Whitt DNA Study illustrates what we may be able to establish > re the Virginia, or Southern Strongs, as well as the Virginia Strange > families. The same point may be made with regard to many family lineages > bearing our group of variant family surnames. Please sign up today! {:-) > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > ========================================================== > >

Gray, Is your Baker cousin in Atlanta still living? What was his name and where did he fit in the Baler family tree? Just sent this info re: Witt/Whitt DNA study to Mike. I am on this Strong list looking for info re: Samuel Sebra Strong....Mary Frances Strong Walker's dad, Gan's grand dad. > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > Reply-To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:52:35 -0800 > To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY: L'Estrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong > Resent-From: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:58:59 -0700 > > Hello Everyone. > > Just a short note to remind you about the DNA Study: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > I don't want to bother people unduely about the subject, and I know the > holiday season > approaches. There are probably a number of potential participants who are > concerned about the cost involved, particularly at this time of year. > Think Christmas present! {:-) Perhaps someone out there can make a gift of > the DNA test for their resident genealogist! And, remember, you have > probably spent far more than this on research (although probably in smaller > increments) in the past. The potential benefits may well outweigh the > costs involved. > > Let me know if you have any questions, and what I can do to help complete the > signup process for you. > Regards > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > > PS: The following was provided by Family Tree DNA. I thought you might > find it interesting as an example of what we can accomplish thru the DNA > Study: > ================================== > From: Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA > November 21, 2002 Volume 1, Issue 5 > > Spot Light: Witt - Whitt Surname Project > ====================================== > > Objective: Prove or disprove the genealogy research of the Witt / Whitt > Line from Old Virginia > > There are three identified Lines or families of the Witt / Whitt surname > in the US. One family Line that today spells their surname as both Witt > and Whitt begins with German immigrants in both South Carolina and > Pennsylvania in the early 1700s. A second family Line that today spells > their surname as Witt and DeWitt, began in New England around 1640 with an > English immigrant by the name of John Witt. The third family Line that > today spells their surname as Witt and Whitt began with an individual > named John Witt or Whitt, who first appears in early records in 1670 in > colonial Virginia. The records relating to John show the spelling of his > name both as Witt and as Whitt. It was from John Witt-Whitt that the > Witt-Whitt Family of Old Virginia began. > > Early Virginia records, John Witt-Whitt was the father of at least four > sons, John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. > > The participants in the Witt-Whitt Surname Project are all documented > descendants of the 4 identified sons of John Witt-Whitt: John Witt II, > William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. For each of these sons, at > least two documented male descendants participated in the Project. All > participants took the 25 marker test. > > The results for this Surname Project are that the majority of participants > matched 25/25, and a few matched 24/25. Therefore, the Project has > confirmed the genealogy research, and shows that the participants are > related and have a common ancestor. > > When combined with surviving colonial Virginia records for the surnames > Witt and Whitt, the Witt-Whitt DNA study determined John Witt II, William > Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt were brothers and their father was > the immigrant John Witt-Whitt of Charles City County, Virginia. The > Witt-Whitt DNA Surname Project also identified the common ancestor of > these four men was from England, or possibly Scotland. (Note, for those > unfamiliar with Scottish genealogy, a large percentage of "lowland" Scots have > a similar ethnic origin to the English, and thus may have a common ancestry.) > > A DNA baseline for the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia has now been > established. Other descendants who have incomplete records, or where > records no longer exist and preclude the determination of a family's > origin, may take the 25 marker DNA test to determine if they are related > to the Witt-Whitt Line from old Virginia. If other descendants find that > they match, they can contact one of the participants in the baseline study > to share the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia ancestral history for their > family line. > > The next phase of the Witt-Whitt surname project is to identify the county > in England or Scotland from which John Witt-Whitt originated. > > =============================================================== > Family Tree DNA encourages the circulation of "Facts & Genes" by newsletters > and lists > providing that you credit the author, include their copyright information > (Copyright 2002, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" > (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.asp) as the source. > ================================================================= > Just a further comment: > The foregoing Whitt DNA Study illustrates what we may be able to establish re > the Virginia, or Southern Strongs, as well as the Virginia Strange families. > The same point may be made with regard to many family lineages bearing our > group of variant family surnames. Please sign up today! {:-) > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== >

Hello Everyone. Just a short note to remind you about the DNA Study: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm I don't want to bother people unduely about the subject, and I know the holiday season approaches. There are probably a number of potential participants who are concerned about the cost involved, particularly at this time of year. Think Christmas present! {:-) Perhaps someone out there can make a gift of the DNA test for their resident genealogist! And, remember, you have probably spent far more than this on research (although probably in smaller increments) in the past. The potential benefits may well outweigh the costs involved. Let me know if you have any questions, and what I can do to help complete the signup process for you. Regards Dave Strong ... webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== PS: The following was provided by Family Tree DNA. I thought you might find it interesting as an example of what we can accomplish thru the DNA Study: ================================== From: Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA November 21, 2002 Volume 1, Issue 5 Spot Light: Witt - Whitt Surname Project ====================================== Objective: Prove or disprove the genealogy research of the Witt / Whitt Line from Old Virginia There are three identified Lines or families of the Witt / Whitt surname in the US. One family Line that today spells their surname as both Witt and Whitt begins with German immigrants in both South Carolina and Pennsylvania in the early 1700s. A second family Line that today spells their surname as Witt and DeWitt, began in New England around 1640 with an English immigrant by the name of John Witt. The third family Line that today spells their surname as Witt and Whitt began with an individual named John Witt or Whitt, who first appears in early records in 1670 in colonial Virginia. The records relating to John show the spelling of his name both as Witt and as Whitt. It was from John Witt-Whitt that the Witt-Whitt Family of Old Virginia began. Early Virginia records, John Witt-Whitt was the father of at least four sons, John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. The participants in the Witt-Whitt Surname Project are all documented descendants of the 4 identified sons of John Witt-Whitt: John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt. For each of these sons, at least two documented male descendants participated in the Project. All participants took the 25 marker test. The results for this Surname Project are that the majority of participants matched 25/25, and a few matched 24/25. Therefore, the Project has confirmed the genealogy research, and shows that the participants are related and have a common ancestor. When combined with surviving colonial Virginia records for the surnames Witt and Whitt, the Witt-Whitt DNA study determined John Witt II, William Witt, Edward Whitt, and Richard Whitt were brothers and their father was the immigrant John Witt-Whitt of Charles City County, Virginia. The Witt-Whitt DNA Surname Project also identified the common ancestor of these four men was from England, or possibly Scotland. (Note, for those unfamiliar with Scottish genealogy, a large percentage of "lowland" Scots have a similar ethnic origin to the English, and thus may have a common ancestry.) A DNA baseline for the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia has now been established. Other descendants who have incomplete records, or where records no longer exist and preclude the determination of a family's origin, may take the 25 marker DNA test to determine if they are related to the Witt-Whitt Line from old Virginia. If other descendants find that they match, they can contact one of the participants in the baseline study to share the Witt-Whitt family of Old Virginia ancestral history for their family line. The next phase of the Witt-Whitt surname project is to identify the county in England or Scotland from which John Witt-Whitt originated. =============================================================== Family Tree DNA encourages the circulation of "Facts & Genes" by newsletters and lists providing that you credit the author, include their copyright information (Copyright 2002, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.asp) as the source. ================================================================= Just a further comment: The foregoing Whitt DNA Study illustrates what we may be able to establish re the Virginia, or Southern Strongs, as well as the Virginia Strange families. The same point may be made with regard to many family lineages bearing our group of variant family surnames. Please sign up today! {:-)

Great job making your point,David. Lynn Wesp from the Thomas Linage ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > {:-) > > Sure glad to hear that everyone is paying attention to this subject.... and perhaps I could have been a bit clearer about the subject.... but to make a point, this is copied from the text below: > > "The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology > involved. Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will > have a male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join > the study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in > the study. " > > Yes... it does have to be a male Strong, etc., who is tested for the Y-DNA test. BUT, if you are female, and have a male Strong husband, brother, father, uncle, cousin, you can work with that male individual by having him volunteer as a test subject. The point here is that there are many women who would like to persue this subject, and have a male relative who is not as actively interested, but willing to cooperate. Try to enlist these volunteers. Pay for the tests if you have to. Act as the intermediary if they don't have email. Push to do the followup, make sure things happen. Of course, I am NOT advising you to be nags! {:-) But I hope the point is being made. This study is for everyone... in terms of the perameters of what we are trying to prove. And, while it may not be possible for everyone to be a study participant, there are lots of opportunities out there to help the study along! > > Enough said??? > > Dave > ================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Wesp" <bwesp@ptdprolog.net> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > I thought so too, that the males of a direct line of Strong is preferred. > > Lynn Wesp from the Thomas Lineage > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Strong & Marilynn Dunne" <dbsandmd@nhb.com> > > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > > > > Dave > > > I thought it was just MEN who could be part of the DNA study! You are > > > inviting EVERYONE! > > > M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > > > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:02 PM > > > Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > > > > > > > Recently there has been an effort to initiate a DNA Study for the > > > benefit of > > > > the many researchers and their families who have been unable to > > > break > > > > through some of those "brickwalls" . So many of us are able to > > > trace our > > > > lineages back several generations before coming up against a > > > frustrating > > > > lack of records which tend to make "proof" impossible. Many of us > > > have > > > > hunches and a lot of positive evidence pointing to lineage > > > connections, but > > > > not enough to establish the links which make the connection. Now > > > we have > > > > a new tool which may prove or disprove relationships, and aid us in > > > persuing > > > > the most likely research which will prove the connection.... a DNA > > > Study. > > > > > > > > I have established a new webpage initiating the > > > > LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong DNA Study. See: > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > > > The webpage is now fully operational. You are invited to visit the > > > > webpage, and if possible, join the study. > > > > > > > > This study is for everyone.... if possible, please consider > > > joining even > > > > if you are certain you have traced your lineage as far back as it > > > is > > > > possible to go. For example, if you are a member of the Elder > > > John Strong > > > > lines originating in New England, you may already have your lineage > > > very > > > > well established back to the 1630's; however, please consider that > > > by > > > > joining the study you will be helping others trace their lines as > > > well. > > > > How? By establishing a prototype of the Elder John Strong > > > "haplotype" in > > > > the DNA Study, you will provide researchers of un-linked lineages > > > with a > > > > possibility of matching the Elder John DNA haplotype... proving or > > > > disproving a relationship link. Interested researchers will not be > > > able to > > > > find out the name of their missing link... but they will be able to > > > > establish whether they are on the right track, and gain some > > > prediction of > > > > how many generations back they will have to go in order to establish > > > a "Most > > > > Recent Common Ancestor". The same can be said for many lines > > > being > > > > researched around the world. The webpage outlines some of the > > > goals of the > > > > study which may be useful to every person researching one of the > > > variant > > > > surnames, LeStrange, Strange, Strang, Stronge, and Strong. > > > > > > > > The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology > > > involved. > > > > Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will > > > have a > > > > male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join > > > the > > > > study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in > > > the > > > > study. One can join the study directly from the website, and get > > > the > > > > advantage of a reduced rate for the test provided to us by Family > > > Tree DNA, > > > > a genetic testing company whose services are being used by over 250 > > > > "one-name" family surname studies. The company has an established > > > > reputation, and is providing us with a service which may prove > > > invaluable. > > > > > > > > If you have any questions after reviewing the webpage, please let me > > > know. > > > > This is a cooperative research effort involving the efforts of > > > everyone who > > > > joins the study. There is no proprietarial interest in the results > > > of the > > > > study. It's benefits are intended to be available to all. > > > > > > > > I invite any and all interested researchers of the various lineages > > > out > > > > there to jump in and suggest possible benefits of this study for > > > their > > > > particular lines. Volunteers are needed. Please join the study! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Dave Strong ... > > > > webmaster: > > > > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > > > > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > > > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > > > > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > > > > & > > > > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > > > > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > > > > related families. > > > > ============================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > > > ======================================================== > > > > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > > > > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > > > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > > > > > > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > > > > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > > > > Repository for Strong data and documents. > > > > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > > > > ========================================================== > > > > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > > > > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > > > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > > > > > > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > > > > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > > > > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > > > > Notes, containing sources, included. > > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > > ======================================================== > > > Ship Captains and other Mariners named STRANG(E) or STRONG(E) > > > http://members.attcanada.ca/~vickerst/ships.html > > > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > > Repository for Strong data and documents. > > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > > ========================================================== > > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > > Notes, containing sources, included. > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== > >

I thought so too, that the males of a direct line of Strong is preferred. Lynn Wesp from the Thomas Lineage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Strong & Marilynn Dunne" <dbsandmd@nhb.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > Dave > I thought it was just MEN who could be part of the DNA study! You are > inviting EVERYONE! > M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:02 PM > Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > Recently there has been an effort to initiate a DNA Study for the > benefit of > > the many researchers and their families who have been unable to > break > > through some of those "brickwalls" . So many of us are able to > trace our > > lineages back several generations before coming up against a > frustrating > > lack of records which tend to make "proof" impossible. Many of us > have > > hunches and a lot of positive evidence pointing to lineage > connections, but > > not enough to establish the links which make the connection. Now > we have > > a new tool which may prove or disprove relationships, and aid us in > persuing > > the most likely research which will prove the connection.... a DNA > Study. > > > > I have established a new webpage initiating the > > LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong DNA Study. See: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > The webpage is now fully operational. You are invited to visit the > > webpage, and if possible, join the study. > > > > This study is for everyone.... if possible, please consider > joining even > > if you are certain you have traced your lineage as far back as it > is > > possible to go. For example, if you are a member of the Elder > John Strong > > lines originating in New England, you may already have your lineage > very > > well established back to the 1630's; however, please consider that > by > > joining the study you will be helping others trace their lines as > well. > > How? By establishing a prototype of the Elder John Strong > "haplotype" in > > the DNA Study, you will provide researchers of un-linked lineages > with a > > possibility of matching the Elder John DNA haplotype... proving or > > disproving a relationship link. Interested researchers will not be > able to > > find out the name of their missing link... but they will be able to > > establish whether they are on the right track, and gain some > prediction of > > how many generations back they will have to go in order to establish > a "Most > > Recent Common Ancestor". The same can be said for many lines > being > > researched around the world. The webpage outlines some of the > goals of the > > study which may be useful to every person researching one of the > variant > > surnames, LeStrange, Strange, Strang, Stronge, and Strong. > > > > The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology > involved. > > Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will > have a > > male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join > the > > study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in > the > > study. One can join the study directly from the website, and get > the > > advantage of a reduced rate for the test provided to us by Family > Tree DNA, > > a genetic testing company whose services are being used by over 250 > > "one-name" family surname studies. The company has an established > > reputation, and is providing us with a service which may prove > invaluable. > > > > If you have any questions after reviewing the webpage, please let me > know. > > This is a cooperative research effort involving the efforts of > everyone who > > joins the study. There is no proprietarial interest in the results > of the > > study. It's benefits are intended to be available to all. > > > > I invite any and all interested researchers of the various lineages > out > > there to jump in and suggest possible benefits of this study for > their > > particular lines. Volunteers are needed. Please join the study! > > > > Regards > > > > Dave Strong ... > > webmaster: > > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > > & > > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > > related families. > > ============================================================== > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > > Repository for Strong data and documents. > > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > > ========================================================== > > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > > Notes, containing sources, included. > > ======================================================== > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Ship Captains and other Mariners named STRANG(E) or STRONG(E) > http://members.attcanada.ca/~vickerst/ships.html > ========================================================== > >

Dave I thought it was just MEN who could be part of the DNA study! You are inviting EVERYONE! M ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > Recently there has been an effort to initiate a DNA Study for the benefit of > the many researchers and their families who have been unable to break > through some of those "brickwalls" . So many of us are able to trace our > lineages back several generations before coming up against a frustrating > lack of records which tend to make "proof" impossible. Many of us have > hunches and a lot of positive evidence pointing to lineage connections, but > not enough to establish the links which make the connection. Now we have > a new tool which may prove or disprove relationships, and aid us in persuing > the most likely research which will prove the connection.... a DNA Study. > > I have established a new webpage initiating the > LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong DNA Study. See: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > The webpage is now fully operational. You are invited to visit the > webpage, and if possible, join the study. > > This study is for everyone.... if possible, please consider joining even > if you are certain you have traced your lineage as far back as it is > possible to go. For example, if you are a member of the Elder John Strong > lines originating in New England, you may already have your lineage very > well established back to the 1630's; however, please consider that by > joining the study you will be helping others trace their lines as well. > How? By establishing a prototype of the Elder John Strong "haplotype" in > the DNA Study, you will provide researchers of un-linked lineages with a > possibility of matching the Elder John DNA haplotype... proving or > disproving a relationship link. Interested researchers will not be able to > find out the name of their missing link... but they will be able to > establish whether they are on the right track, and gain some prediction of > how many generations back they will have to go in order to establish a "Most > Recent Common Ancestor". The same can be said for many lines being > researched around the world. The webpage outlines some of the goals of the > study which may be useful to every person researching one of the variant > surnames, LeStrange, Strange, Strang, Stronge, and Strong. > > The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology involved. > Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will have a > male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join the > study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in the > study. One can join the study directly from the website, and get the > advantage of a reduced rate for the test provided to us by Family Tree DNA, > a genetic testing company whose services are being used by over 250 > "one-name" family surname studies. The company has an established > reputation, and is providing us with a service which may prove invaluable. > > If you have any questions after reviewing the webpage, please let me know. > This is a cooperative research effort involving the efforts of everyone who > joins the study. There is no proprietarial interest in the results of the > study. It's benefits are intended to be available to all. > > I invite any and all interested researchers of the various lineages out > there to jump in and suggest possible benefits of this study for their > particular lines. Volunteers are needed. Please join the study! > > Regards > > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > Repository for Strong data and documents. > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > ========================================================== > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > Notes, containing sources, included. > ======================================================== >

Welcome, new subscriber. I am also from the Thomas Strong lineage through his son Elnathan. Lynn Wesp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack White" <jrwhite44@adelphia.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: [STRONG] New subscriber > I am a new subscriber of the Strong Mail List. I am a descendent of Elder > John Strong through his son, Thomas Strong. The following is a list of my > ancestors, continuing from Thomas Strong: > Justice Joseph Strong > Phinehas Strong > Elisha Strong > James Strong, Sr. > James Strong, Jr. > Havillah Blakeslee Strong > Matie Lucy Strong White > Claude Oliver White > Floyd Wellington White. > > Thanks, > Jack Richard White > 8396 Fox Hills Ave. > Buena Park, CA 90621 > > jrwhite44@adelphia.net > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > STRONG FAMILY ASSOCIATON OF AMERICA (SFAA) web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715 > > Strong(e)s of Somerset, Dorset, and Devon Counties, England, > including ancestors of "Elder" John Strong; queries about > descendants of "Elder" John Strong answered by the SFAA > Historian, Robert Sheldon ("Bob") Strong, from his extensive > electronic database. > ========================================================== > >

{:-) Sure glad to hear that everyone is paying attention to this subject.... and perhaps I could have been a bit clearer about the subject.... but to make a point, this is copied from the text below: "The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology involved. Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will have a male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join the study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in the study. " Yes... it does have to be a male Strong, etc., who is tested for the Y-DNA test. BUT, if you are female, and have a male Strong husband, brother, father, uncle, cousin, you can work with that male individual by having him volunteer as a test subject. The point here is that there are many women who would like to persue this subject, and have a male relative who is not as actively interested, but willing to cooperate. Try to enlist these volunteers. Pay for the tests if you have to. Act as the intermediary if they don't have email. Push to do the followup, make sure things happen. Of course, I am NOT advising you to be nags! {:-) But I hope the point is being made. This study is for everyone... in terms of the perameters of what we are trying to prove. And, while it may not be possible for everyone to be a study participant, there are lots of opportunities out there to help the study along! Enough said??? Dave ================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wesp" <bwesp@ptdprolog.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > I thought so too, that the males of a direct line of Strong is preferred. > Lynn Wesp from the Thomas Lineage > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Strong & Marilynn Dunne" <dbsandmd@nhb.com> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:40 PM > Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > Dave > > I thought it was just MEN who could be part of the DNA study! You are > > inviting EVERYONE! > > M > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:02 PM > > Subject: [STRONG] DNA STUDY > > > > > > > Recently there has been an effort to initiate a DNA Study for the > > benefit of > > > the many researchers and their families who have been unable to > > break > > > through some of those "brickwalls" . So many of us are able to > > trace our > > > lineages back several generations before coming up against a > > frustrating > > > lack of records which tend to make "proof" impossible. Many of us > > have > > > hunches and a lot of positive evidence pointing to lineage > > connections, but > > > not enough to establish the links which make the connection. Now > > we have > > > a new tool which may prove or disprove relationships, and aid us in > > persuing > > > the most likely research which will prove the connection.... a DNA > > Study. > > > > > > I have established a new webpage initiating the > > > LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong DNA Study. See: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > > The webpage is now fully operational. You are invited to visit the > > > webpage, and if possible, join the study. > > > > > > This study is for everyone.... if possible, please consider > > joining even > > > if you are certain you have traced your lineage as far back as it > > is > > > possible to go. For example, if you are a member of the Elder > > John Strong > > > lines originating in New England, you may already have your lineage > > very > > > well established back to the 1630's; however, please consider that > > by > > > joining the study you will be helping others trace their lines as > > well. > > > How? By establishing a prototype of the Elder John Strong > > "haplotype" in > > > the DNA Study, you will provide researchers of un-linked lineages > > with a > > > possibility of matching the Elder John DNA haplotype... proving or > > > disproving a relationship link. Interested researchers will not be > > able to > > > find out the name of their missing link... but they will be able to > > > establish whether they are on the right track, and gain some > > prediction of > > > how many generations back they will have to go in order to establish > > a "Most > > > Recent Common Ancestor". The same can be said for many lines > > being > > > researched around the world. The webpage outlines some of the > > goals of the > > > study which may be useful to every person researching one of the > > variant > > > surnames, LeStrange, Strange, Strang, Stronge, and Strong. > > > > > > The DNA Study has certain limitations dictated by the technology > > involved. > > > Not everyone will be able to join the study, but perhaps they will > > have a > > > male LeStrange-Strange-Strang-Stronge-Strong relative who can join > > the > > > study. Please try to enlist volunteers from any of these lines in > > the > > > study. One can join the study directly from the website, and get > > the > > > advantage of a reduced rate for the test provided to us by Family > > Tree DNA, > > > a genetic testing company whose services are being used by over 250 > > > "one-name" family surname studies. The company has an established > > > reputation, and is providing us with a service which may prove > > invaluable. > > > > > > If you have any questions after reviewing the webpage, please let me > > know. > > > This is a cooperative research effort involving the efforts of > > everyone who > > > joins the study. There is no proprietarial interest in the results > > of the > > > study. It's benefits are intended to be available to all. > > > > > > I invite any and all interested researchers of the various lineages > > out > > > there to jump in and suggest possible benefits of this study for > > their > > > particular lines. Volunteers are needed. Please join the study! > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Dave Strong ... > > > webmaster: > > > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > > > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > > > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > > > & > > > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > > > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > > > related families. > > > ============================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > > ======================================================== > > > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > > > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > > > > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > > > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > > > Repository for Strong data and documents. > > > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > > > ========================================================== > > > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > > > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > > > > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > > > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > > > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > > > Notes, containing sources, included. > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > Ship Captains and other Mariners named STRANG(E) or STRONG(E) > > http://members.attcanada.ca/~vickerst/ships.html > > ========================================================== > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > Repository for Strong data and documents. > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > ========================================================== > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > Notes, containing sources, included. > ======================================================== > >