I sent you an invitation to review my tree at My Family. It is by invitation only. Thought maybe if you had a chance to review it, we might be able to help each other. Sorry this has taken me so long to get back to you. I've had a terrible bout of the stomach flu and out of work for a bit. Hope to be back up and going by Monday. Peace Helen STRONG Pond Woodland, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack White" <jrwhite44@adelphia.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: [STRONG] New subscriber > I am a new subscriber of the Strong Mail List. I am a descendent of Elder > John Strong through his son, Thomas Strong. The following is a list of my > ancestors, continuing from Thomas Strong: > Justice Joseph Strong > Phinehas Strong > Elisha Strong > James Strong, Sr. > James Strong, Jr. > Havillah Blakeslee Strong > Matie Lucy Strong White > Claude Oliver White > Floyd Wellington White. > > Thanks, > Jack Richard White > 8396 Fox Hills Ave. > Buena Park, CA 90621 > > jrwhite44@adelphia.net > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > STRONG FAMILY ASSOCIATON OF AMERICA (SFAA) web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715 > > Strong(e)s of Somerset, Dorset, and Devon Counties, England, > including ancestors of "Elder" John Strong; queries about > descendants of "Elder" John Strong answered by the SFAA > Historian, Robert Sheldon ("Bob") Strong, from his extensive > electronic database. > ========================================================== > >

Robert, I had been following the DNA discussions, but somehow missed that there was a particular effort to "round up" southern STRONG male descendents (sorry, has been the end of semester rush of papers to grade and students to see!!!). Anyway, I am a direct male descendent of a southern STRONG line, but not one that has been proven to be connected to the New Kent Co. bunch (though "Bama Bob" always seemed convinced that all the Virginia Strongs probably descended from one or two [probably brothers] original immigrant[s]). Mine is the Norfolk County line of Edward STRONG (found in SFAA Vol. 5, pgs. 47-78). My descent is: Edward John, Sr. Nelson G. (William) Henry Charles Luther Lester Bryant Robert Watt (me) Sounds like this might be a way to finally prove that all the Virginia Strongs do or do not have a common ancestor--I suspect Robert T., Jr. is anxiously awaiting for us to get it done (I really miss my long electronic discussions with him!!!). So what do I need to do to sign on? Bob Strong At 06:42 PM 12/4/02 -0700, you wrote: >As of today, it appears I am the only descendant of John Strong, Sr. of New >Kent Co., VA who has become a participant in the Strong DNA study. A lot of >good that will do. I would think we need at least three participants from >each line of the children of John Strong, Sr. -- John Strong, Jr., William >Strong and George Strong -- to have a minimally valid study for our line. >While the line of George may be lacking in known descendants, that can not >be said about John Jr. and William. Our line has always been the Avis of >Strong genealogy, i.e., "we're number 2, so we try harder." Well, it's time >to walk the talk. > >How many of you were helped by Robert T. Strong, Jr. before he passed away? >I can't imagine a better tribute to him than for those of his line (John >Jr.) to join in this project. > >How many of you would be nowhere in your research without Jim Rolff? Don't >you owe it to him (his wife descends from William Strong) to join in this >project? > >Don't leave me all alone in this project. Please join me. > >Robert E. Strong, Jr. >Scottsdale, AZ Robert W. Strong <><><>"Things are more like they are right now strong@gslis.utexas.edu<><><><>than they have ever been."

I have found the following Strong family whilst searching for my line: Spencer Strong wife: Mary Harter Son: Dudley Donald Strong born 13 Jun 1878 Indiana died 18 Jun 1951 in Oak Park ILL They were buried in the same cemetery as my line. Anyone out there claim this family? Rick rick@rsellis.com

As to price, the "12-marker" test is US$99.00; the "25 marker" test is US$169.00, plus shipping of about $2.00. The project price is reduced from a regular price of $149.00 for the 12 marker test... a savings of $50.00. It is a bit of a bite for some folks, but when one thinks about the amount of time and money spent on genealogical research, and the possible time and money savings the DNA Study may produce in focusing the research, it is really not too bad. {:-) Please take a look at the DNA Study page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm for more complete details, and instructions as to how to volunteer to join the study. Regards Dave Strong ... webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Turner" <flyingjt@bellsouth.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > I, Pamela Strong Turner, am from this same lineage, but after Caley Strong > of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939, it's Frank Strong of Clay County, TN > Carl W. Strong of Clay County, TN from 1928-1985, > Pamela G. Strong of Tipton, IN from 1960 - present, > plus my brothers & a sister: Carlos, Jr. of CA-1957, Alan of CA-1958, > Johnny of IN-1961, & Debbie of IN-1962 (Looks like I'm in the middle!) > Happy Holidays! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Strong" <dstrong155@prodigy.net> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > > > > Hi Robert > > > > We share the same line. I plan on participating. Still not sure what the > > cost is? But I have contacted Dave Strong abt. it. > > > > My Line is as follows > > > > John Strong New Kent County, VA > > William Strong of New Kent County, VA about 1700-1779 > > Thomas Strong of Hanover County, VA about 1739-1770's > > Samuel Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA about 1777-1840's > > Josiah Joseph Strong of Russell County, VA from > 1800-1880 > > Samuel Strong of Jackson County, TN from 1833-1869 > > Caley Strong of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939 > > Comer Strong of Clay County, TN from > 1912-1993 > > James William Strong of Tipton Co., IN > 1942- > > David Comer Strong of Hamilton Co., IN > > 1963- > > > > Just FYI..., Dave Strong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > > ========================================================== > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > STRONG FAMILY ASSOCIATON OF AMERICA (SFAA) web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715 > > Strong(e)s of Somerset, Dorset, and Devon Counties, England, > including ancestors of "Elder" John Strong; queries about > descendants of "Elder" John Strong answered by the SFAA > Historian, Robert Sheldon ("Bob") Strong, from his extensive > electronic database. > ========================================================== > >

I, Pamela Strong Turner, am from this same lineage, but after Caley Strong of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939, it's Frank Strong of Clay County, TN Carl W. Strong of Clay County, TN from 1928-1985, Pamela G. Strong of Tipton, IN from 1960 - present, plus my brothers & a sister: Carlos, Jr. of CA-1957, Alan of CA-1958, Johnny of IN-1961, & Debbie of IN-1962 (Looks like I'm in the middle!) Happy Holidays! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Strong" <dstrong155@prodigy.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > Hi Robert > > We share the same line. I plan on participating. Still not sure what the > cost is? But I have contacted Dave Strong abt. it. > > My Line is as follows > > John Strong New Kent County, VA > William Strong of New Kent County, VA about 1700-1779 > Thomas Strong of Hanover County, VA about 1739-1770's > Samuel Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA about 1777-1840's > Josiah Joseph Strong of Russell County, VA from 1800-1880 > Samuel Strong of Jackson County, TN from 1833-1869 > Caley Strong of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939 > Comer Strong of Clay County, TN from 1912-1993 > James William Strong of Tipton Co., IN 1942- > David Comer Strong of Hamilton Co., IN > 1963- > > Just FYI..., Dave Strong > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > ========================================================== > >

Hi Robert, Would you explain what you mean by "current technology" ... I paid for my father to have his DNA done. He is 69 yrs odl Has had diabetes for a year and a half. The only thing that he said was the scrapping of the cheak for 60 seconds seemed like forever Mary Lou (Perkins) Lugo View my genealogy at http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=mllugo Genealogy information from my web pages, through email or the USA Post Office is for PRIVATE use only and NOT to be sold or given to ANY for profit company (ie: FTM, Ancestry, etc.) mail to: genealogy4ever@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like to participate but with the current technology can not. I think there are a lot of us that would like to add our DNA to the mix but are excluded. So until there are better tests I will stand by and watch. -- Robert Blair _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi Robert We share the same line. I plan on participating. Still not sure what the cost is? But I have contacted Dave Strong abt. it. My Line is as follows John Strong New Kent County, VA William Strong of New Kent County, VA about 1700-1779 Thomas Strong of Hanover County, VA about 1739-1770's Samuel Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA about 1777-1840's Josiah Joseph Strong of Russell County, VA from 1800-1880 Samuel Strong of Jackson County, TN from 1833-1869 Caley Strong of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939 Comer Strong of Clay County, TN from 1912-1993 James William Strong of Tipton Co., IN 1942- David Comer Strong of Hamilton Co., IN 1963- Just FYI..., Dave Strong

** Reply to message from "Mary Lou \(Perkins\) Lugo genealogy4ever@hotmail.com" on Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:57:28 -0500 > Would you explain what you mean by "current technology" ... > I paid for my father to have his DNA done. > He is 69 yrs odl > Has had diabetes for a year and a half. > The only thing that he said was the scrapping of the cheak for 60 seconds > seemed like forever Meaning that only the direct male line can be traced. Hopefully someday they will be able to trace any descended. -- Robert Blair

Bob, I have another idea about how Strong descendants such as yourself can help. Maybe there is a male Strong from your line on the Strong mail list who would like to participate except for the cost. Why not split the cost with such a person? With a little matchmaking on the list, it might be possible for the costs of testing male Strongs of your line to be shared among several people such as yourself. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT HARRISON" <harrison.robert@mcleodusa.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > William Strong is my fifth great grandfather, and I would be happy to > participate in this DNA study, but I am not a direct male descendent of him. > > Would my participation be helpful? > > Bob Harrison > 4515 Aspen Lane NE > Cedar Rapids, IA > >

William Strong is my fifth great grandfather, and I would be happy to participate in this DNA study, but I am not a direct male descendent of him. Would my participation be helpful? Bob Harrison 4515 Aspen Lane NE Cedar Rapids, IA Robert Strong wrote: > As of today, it appears I am the only descendant of John Strong, Sr. of New > Kent Co., VA who has become a participant in the Strong DNA study. A lot of > good that will do. I would think we need at least three participants from > each line of the children of John Strong, Sr. -- John Strong, Jr., William > Strong and George Strong -- to have a minimally valid study for our line. > While the line of George may be lacking in known descendants, that can not > be said about John Jr. and William. Our line has always been the Avis of > Strong genealogy, i.e., "we're number 2, so we try harder." Well, it's time > to walk the talk. > > How many of you were helped by Robert T. Strong, Jr. before he passed away? > I can't imagine a better tribute to him than for those of his line (John > Jr.) to join in this project. > > How many of you would be nowhere in your research without Jim Rolff? Don't > you owe it to him (his wife descends from William Strong) to join in this > project? > > Don't leave me all alone in this project. Please join me. > > Robert E. Strong, Jr. > Scottsdale, AZ > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ==========================================================

Bob, while the technology is such that only male descendants whose surname is Strong can be tested, others such as yourself may be able to participate if (1) you have a male Strong cousin in your immediate family or (2) count a male Strong among those with whom you exchange information about your line. Please try to enlist a qualified person and, if necessary, pay the fee for them. Robert E. Strong, Jr. Scottsdale, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT HARRISON" <harrison.robert@mcleodusa.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > William Strong is my fifth great grandfather, and I would be happy to > participate in this DNA study, but I am not a direct male descendent of him. > > Would my participation be helpful? > > Bob Harrison > 4515 Aspen Lane NE > Cedar Rapids, IA >

David-I believe these are the correct dates for my great great grandparents: William 1779-1863, Mary 1798-1866. Their first child was born in 1812 but there is reason to believe that there were two Marys. The last child was born in 1841. William had eight children one of whom was my great grandfather Thomas 1822-1908. He married Marry Anne (Dane) 1827-1916. My grandfather,Robert Thomas,1865 -1918 married Martha Belle (Tease)1872-1940 (believed to have been born in Omaha Neb. My dad, Robert William Dane 1898-1935 married Margaret E ( Cutmore 1902-1983). I (Col Don W Strong) 1927- married Jean Margaret Aitken. So there you have it. The last four generations were born or brought up in Brantford.

** Reply to message from "Robert Strong strong@nantucket.net" on Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:42:31 -0700 > As of today, it appears I am the only descendant of John Strong, Sr. of New > Kent Co., VA who has become a participant in the Strong DNA study. A lot of > good that will do. I would think we need at least three participants from > each line of the children of John Strong, Sr. -- John Strong, Jr., William > Strong and George Strong -- to have a minimally valid study for our line. > While the line of George may be lacking in known descendants, that can not > be said about John Jr. and William. Our line has always been the Avis of > Strong genealogy, i.e., "we're number 2, so we try harder." Well, it's time > to walk the talk. I would like to participate but with the current technology can not. I think there are a lot of us that would like to add our DNA to the mix but are excluded. So until there are better tests I will stand by and watch. -- Robert Blair

As of today, it appears I am the only descendant of John Strong, Sr. of New Kent Co., VA who has become a participant in the Strong DNA study. A lot of good that will do. I would think we need at least three participants from each line of the children of John Strong, Sr. -- John Strong, Jr., William Strong and George Strong -- to have a minimally valid study for our line. While the line of George may be lacking in known descendants, that can not be said about John Jr. and William. Our line has always been the Avis of Strong genealogy, i.e., "we're number 2, so we try harder." Well, it's time to walk the talk. How many of you were helped by Robert T. Strong, Jr. before he passed away? I can't imagine a better tribute to him than for those of his line (John Jr.) to join in this project. How many of you would be nowhere in your research without Jim Rolff? Don't you owe it to him (his wife descends from William Strong) to join in this project? Don't leave me all alone in this project. Please join me. Robert E. Strong, Jr. Scottsdale, AZ

Deidre, Stonemason Strong descendants Regarding the stonemason Strongs and direct descendants. I feel that I can now accurately trace about 5 generations of the stonemason Strongs. This has taken a lengthy amount of research, particularly as there are a number of errors in certain records. What I can say is that if anyone claims to be a descendant of the Strong stonemasons (carrying on the Strong name) they would have to be descendants of Valentine Strong (the father of the infamous Thomas and Edward snr Strong and 4 other sons, who were all born into the stone mason trade). John, a brother of Thomas and Edward, also worked at St Paul's Cathedral. Most of Valentine's sons moved to Box, Wiltshire or Stanford-in-the-Vale, and worked on local houses and parish churches. No one can claim to be a descendant of Thomas Strong, he died unmarried and childless in 1681. The only real rights to descendancy (carrying on the Strong surname) would be through Edward Strong snr. He had 3 sons (if I recall correctly). Of the 3 sons - two are known to have been stone-masons. Edward jnr rising to the most prominence - he did have a son, but he died unmarried and childless at the age of 21, while studying at Cambridge. The other did get married - I have not had time to trace this, although I believe that he was married. An issue that might raise confusion with Strong researchers, is that Edward snr also had daughters - the numbers varying from one to three. Edward jnr also had daughters - three, of whom all married into respected society. The eldest daughter married Sir John Strange (this could be misinterpreted as Strong - which it is not). Sir Strange was the Master of Rolls and carried much credibility. From what I can gather - property inherited through the line of Edward jnr passed through his daughters (most significantly property in St Albans, Hertfordshire). So the only options of descendancy from this family of stonemasons is through one of Valentine Strong's son's, or Edward snr's son John. Information on the Strong's not associated with the construction of large works is minimal. However, I do feel that I am getting somewhere. SA link to the stonemason Strong's The link between my branch of SA Strongs and that of the stonemason Strongs is based firstly on oral history and secondly on intuition. To date I have found no immediate link, but feel that the oral tradition of passing this information down our family line is of value. I believe this as the stonemason Strong's were only a prominent family in the late 17th and early 18th Centuries. For this reason I cannot see anyone beyond the related family attaching themselves to this descendancy in the 19th and 20th Centuries. For the main reason that the stonemason Strongs would have lost their appeal - unless you specifically made an effort to research them. My connection to a family of SA Strong's is through my mother. She is a Strong. Her father was born in Zimbabwe. I can only go back about two generations. A few skeletons in the closet so it has been difficult to trace. I hope this is of use. Nicola 44c Rectory Road Oxford OX4 1RQ Tel: 01865 793341 E-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Snook [mailto:paul@snook30.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 30 November 2002 10:23 To: STRONG-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Nicola I am doing research on behalf of an aunt in South Africa. She is a STRONG through the line of THOMAS, brother to Sir T. Veezey Strong, Lord Mayor of London (1910 /11) However, I have not found out much about that line so any help would be most welcome. Regards Deirdré Snook ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA > Hi Nicola.... > > Thanks for your message, below. So far, we have not had any DNA Study > participants from your line... the South Africa - British Stonemason > lineage. Do you have a male Strong relative in South Africa whom you > could ask to participate in the study? We would welcome such an > addition... and it would be a step in the right direction for proving the > relationships between your South African family, the Stonemasons of St. > Paul's Cathedral, and possibly the Irish County Wicklow-Dublin Strongs and > other Strongs of Southwest England and beyond! Any help you can give would > be appreciated! > > Regards > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicola" <Nicola@bestfootforward.com> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:06 AM > Subject: [STRONG] Strong DNA > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm still trying to find a reliable link between my family (who know live > in > > South Africa) and the Strong's who were stonemasons (worked on St Paul's > etc > > etc). I am getting there - thanks to a bit of intuition. However, some > > sort of DNA analysis would be ideal. I would like to know if there are > any > > British/South African Strong's considering handing over their DNA for the > > study? Await results with interest. > > > > Best wishes > > Nicola Jenkin (+Strong) > > > > PS. For the past 2 years I have been conducting research on the Strong > > stonemasons - there is so much to piece together. I am hoping to publish > > something by the end of next year, or thereabouts. If anyone is > interested, > > please get in touch. > > > > Nicola Jenkin > > 44c Rectory Road > > Oxford > > England > > e-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG GENEALOGY NETWORK web site: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5744/ > > > > Register of Strong ancestors, by location. > > Links to websites with Strong data (GEDCOM to HTML) > > ========================================================== > ______________________________ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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David- great to be a part of all this and will do my best to contribute. I have the same problem with the dates for Mary and am doing what I can to verify them. Will advise. I must get on with all the reading you have given me and then will be in touch........Don Strong

Re: ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <dbsandmd@attcanada.ca> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Hi Donald, and the rest of the list... My earlier attempt to post this message was delayed, but Russell Laird has now fixed things so I can send it from a different email address and stuff... it's a bit technical, and I'm glad we have Russell to help keep things going! Thanks, Russell! {:-) Donald... after I sent the copy of this message directly to you last evening, I got thinking (as I seem to do too often... after the fact!) One of the confusing factors in your earlier message (see below) are the supposed birthdates you give for William and Mary.... It seems 1800 and 1779 are too far apart, especially for Mary ... Is it possible you transposed the 7 and 9, and that the correct date for Mary was 1797? That would change some of the thinking about your situation considerably... Please let me know which is correct... Regards, Dave Strong ================================= "Don Strong (Fermanagh Strongs)" <donstrong@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG]William Strong of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh, Ireland > Hello Donald! > > Welcome aboard the Strong List! We have much to talk about... and share. > I am one of a number of persons researching the Strongs of Donegal and > Fermanagh. There is some confusion about whether the various family > lines, and there are several of them, are related or not. I tend to believe > most of them are related, but there is more doubt about whether some of the > Strongs who presently live in the vicinity of Enniskillin are related to the > Donegal-Fermanagh Strongs, or whether they are related to the > Cavan-Monaghan-Longford-Sligo Strongs. > > To make a point early on in the discussion... many of the various families > from around Donegal Bay and east to Enniskillen tended to consider > themselves "Enniskilleners". This grew out of the fact that most of the > early Protestant families of the entire area banded together in support of > King William III, of Orange, against the Catholic King James II during the > Irish phase of the English Revolution of 1689. The center of their > resistance movement was Inniskillen. Following the Battle of the Boyne > and the defeat of James II, the Inniskilleners were recognized as a Regiment > in the British Army, and had a long history which gave a great deal of pride > to many of the local people, who continued to supply recruits for that > Regiment and others into the 20th Century. > > So, when one of the local Strong families claimed to be of "Enniskillen", > they were claiming to be from the region more than the town. This has led > to considerable confusion in researching these families. My own Strong > family was apparently from the area of the border between Donegal and > Fermanagh, and claimed in Canada to be from "Fermanagh". I still haven't > figured it all out.... and that is one reason I am coordinating a DNA Study, > hoping to resolve some of the questions. > > For a start, I suggest you look at my "The Donegal Strong Puzzle" webpage, > referenced below, and then take a look at the Irish Strong Data-base (IDB), > linked to that webpage through it's table of contents. I suggest you also > take a close look at IDB record #294.... relating to the marriage of a > William Strong and a Mary Farrell on Jan 25, 1801. William was then a > soldier serving in the Northumberland Fencibles. FYI, the fencibles were a > sort of "home-guard" regiment, and that was likely a way of avoiding service > overseas in the regular regiments... who were fighting the Napoleonic Wars > at the time. I suggest that these may be your ancestors.... Mary might > well have been about 22 and of marriagible age, and the 1800 date you have > given in your email may have been their approximate date of marriage. I > should also acknowledge that there are a couple of other possibilities in > the IDB as well.... so browse through and let me know if you have any more > questions. > > I don't know anything about a ship wreck in the St. Lawrence... but anything > is possible. Can you share with me more of your family history and the > descendancy from William and Mary? Perhaps we can gather a few more clues > along the way. > > While you are exploring my website, please take a look at the DNA Study > page, and consider joining the study.... it may be one way to narrow your > search options! And, it might confirm whether we are cousins! {:-) > > I am in transit right at the moment, and may have a delay in posting this > answer to the Strong-List, but will copy you directly in the meantime, along > with some other interested researchers. > > Regards > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "donald Strong" <donstrong@worldnet.att.net> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:07 PM > Subject: [STRONG] Fw: > > > > Re this message-I was reading a tombstone and now believe it should be > > Enniskillen, county Fermanagh.........Don Strong > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "donald Strong" <donstrong@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:52 PM > > > > > > > I am new at this, but so far have traced my ancestors back to William > > > Strong, born in Ireland in 1800 wife Mary born 1779. Believed to have > > lived > > > in either Ermangough or Inniskillin. Left for Canada in 1842/43 and > > settled > > > near Brantford ON. Some of the family,including William moved to Gorie > in > > > south-western ON. There are still Strongs in both places. Understand > that > > > there may have been a shipwreck in the St Lawrence on the way over. > Anyone > > > have further information on the subject?...............Don Strong > > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG QUEST (including The Strong Mail List web site) > > http://ro.com/~rts2/quest > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Quest/index.html > > > > Policies and procedures for the Strong Mail List. > > Ancestor / Descendancy Charts of subscribers and visitors. > > Repository for Strong data and documents. > > Links to Strong websites, research tools, etc. > > ========================================================== > > A STRONG HERITAGE: The Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database > > http://ro.com/~rts2/ancestry > > http://members.tripod.com/~RTStrong/Ancestry > > > > Ancestors of Robert T. (Bob) Strong, Jr., and Velma > > (Gossage) Strong. Earliest Strong ancestor: John > > Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, VA, circa 1700. > > Notes, containing sources, included. > > ======================================================== > > > > >

Re this message-I was reading a tombstone and now believe it should be Enniskillen, county Fermanagh.........Don Strong ----- Original Message ----- From: "donald Strong" <donstrong@worldnet.att.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:52 PM > I am new at this, but so far have traced my ancestors back to William > Strong, born in Ireland in 1800 wife Mary born 1779. Believed to have lived > in either Ermangough or Inniskillin. Left for Canada in 1842/43 and settled > near Brantford ON. Some of the family,including William moved to Gorie in > south-western ON. There are still Strongs in both places. Understand that > there may have been a shipwreck in the St Lawrence on the way over. Anyone > have further information on the subject?...............Don Strong >

I am new at this, but so far have traced my ancestors back to William Strong, born in Ireland in 1800 wife Mary born 1779. Believed to have lived in either Ermangough or Inniskillin. Left for Canada in 1842/43 and settled near Brantford ON. Some of the family,including William moved to Gorie in south-western ON. There are still Strongs in both places. Understand that there may have been a shipwreck in the St Lawrence on the way over. Anyone have further information on the subject?...............Don Strong

Nicola I am doing research on behalf of an aunt in South Africa. She is a STRONG through the line of THOMAS, brother to Sir T. Veezey Strong, Lord Mayor of London (1910 /11) However, I have not found out much about that line so any help would be most welcome. Regards Deirdré Snook ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA > Hi Nicola.... > > Thanks for your message, below. So far, we have not had any DNA Study > participants from your line... the South Africa - British Stonemason > lineage. Do you have a male Strong relative in South Africa whom you > could ask to participate in the study? We would welcome such an > addition... and it would be a step in the right direction for proving the > relationships between your South African family, the Stonemasons of St. > Paul's Cathedral, and possibly the Irish County Wicklow-Dublin Strongs and > other Strongs of Southwest England and beyond! Any help you can give would > be appreciated! > > Regards > Dave Strong ... > webmaster: > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > & > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > related families. > ============================================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicola" <Nicola@bestfootforward.com> > To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:06 AM > Subject: [STRONG] Strong DNA > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm still trying to find a reliable link between my family (who know live > in > > South Africa) and the Strong's who were stonemasons (worked on St Paul's > etc > > etc). I am getting there - thanks to a bit of intuition. However, some > > sort of DNA analysis would be ideal. I would like to know if there are > any > > British/South African Strong's considering handing over their DNA for the > > study? Await results with interest. > > > > Best wishes > > Nicola Jenkin (+Strong) > > > > PS. For the past 2 years I have been conducting research on the Strong > > stonemasons - there is so much to piece together. I am hoping to publish > > something by the end of next year, or thereabouts. If anyone is > interested, > > please get in touch. > > > > Nicola Jenkin > > 44c Rectory Road > > Oxford > > England > > e-mail: nicola@bestfootforward.com > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > > ======================================================== > > THE STRONG GENEALOGY NETWORK web site: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5744/ > > > > Register of Strong ancestors, by location. > > Links to websites with Strong data (GEDCOM to HTML) > > ========================================================== >