1. to catch the first glimmer of the rising sun 2. Tradition 3. This goes back a long, long ways, to when people used to meditate to the east. Everything in religion happens in the east. --- helnphil <helnphil@telusplanet.net> wrote: > For the most part, headstones seem to allways face > east. Can anyone tell me > why this is? > > Phil > > My Interests: > > In Lincs -JOHNSON, FENWICK, BANCROFT, SOMERSCALES, > PARNELL, WILLERTON, > WILLOWS, WILLEY, BARKER, SEARBY, HOLGRATH, SURFLEET, > TOMLINSON, BRUMFIELD > > In London/Middlesex - NEWMAN, MAZEMORE, BARNFATHER, > BANKS, GIBBS, > SCHOLFIELD, > STRONG, EBERLET > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG GENEALOGY NETWORK web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/5744/ > > Register of Strong ancestors, by location. > Links to websites with Strong data (GEDCOM to HTML) > ========================================================== > ===== Colleen Sue Downey Morse writer, Toastmaster, genealogist, researcher, seeker "No coward soul is mine." ----Charlotte Bronte "I made an error in judgement. I mistook personality for character." ----Emma Harte __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Dave: I received three emails this afternoon indicating that there was a match in the DNA study for the DNA kit my uncle submitted. However, when I attempted to use the email address provided, it would not go through. Since the name was David, I'm wondering if they aren't just using you as a central contact point?? If not, can you tell me how I might contact the person to whom my uncle is said to have a 99.9% likelihood of a common ancestor? Thanks. Rene'

Hi Dave, This is one of your Southern cousins, Pamela Strong Turner, from Mississippi! My father was Carl W. Strong & my grandfather was called Frank Strong, son of Caley & Sarah Strong in Celina, TN, but I have been told that maybe his full name was Herbert Franklin Strong, I'm not sure, do you know? Also, do you know anyone that could tell me anything about my father's mother, Lula Green, she died when he was only a child? Grandpa Frank remarried & had Irene & Chester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Strong" <dstrong155@prodigy.net> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] Strong DNA Study: An Appeal to Southern Strongs > Hi Robert > > We share the same line. I plan on participating. Still not sure what the > cost is? But I have contacted Dave Strong abt. it. > > My Line is as follows > > John Strong New Kent County, VA > William Strong of New Kent County, VA about 1700-1779 > Thomas Strong of Hanover County, VA about 1739-1770's > Samuel Strong of Pittsylvania County, VA about 1777-1840's > Josiah Joseph Strong of Russell County, VA from 1800-1880 > Samuel Strong of Jackson County, TN from 1833-1869 > Caley Strong of Clay County, TN from 1868-1939 > Comer Strong of Clay County, TN from 1912-1993 > James William Strong of Tipton Co., IN 1942- > David Comer Strong of Hamilton Co., IN > 1963- > > Just FYI..., Dave Strong > > > > > > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > ========================================================== > >

Hi.. I am seeking any information on George Otto Strong....who I believe was born in 1897...not sure where in IL...I am guessing in Warren county or the surrounding area....he married Nora Alberta Kelley(Kelly) on 30 Jun 1921. So any information on this man, who his parents were, whether he had children, would be greatly appreciated.... Stephanie Grohol

Hello Everyone, Is there anyone researching a STRONG family who lived in Plymouth Devon UK, I am looking for the parents of a Lucy STRONG born in Plymouth in 1855. Margaret Devon UK --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs

Hi Janice, On 28 Jan 2003, at 17:27, Zippity111@aol.com wrote: > Hello Mike, are L'Estrange's included in this survey? Are you at all > interested in the L'Estrange's from Ireland, predominantly Counties > Meath, WestMeath and Offaly? Indeed they are and you will see that I already have a little bit from you on the "Ireland" page on the web site. I am sure you will be able to add to what is there. > If 'yes', please add me to your mailing list.....thank you so much. I shall be pleased to, nice bit about Yahoo mail lists is that you can include attachments, unlike Rootsweb lists. Kindest regards Mike Strange - Your Total Event www.yourtotalevent.com

Hello Hazel. Guess we need more information from you before we can help. First, please understand that there are MANY places throughout the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and I suppose elsewhere as well... that were named by the original settlers after the places they came from in Great Britain and Ireland. Cramlington, Northumberland, and Blight are all just such names. I will wager there are about 20 to 50 of them spread around the world. Now, can you clarify where these places are, and give us some dates and places of birth, marriage, emigration, death? If we have this info, we MIGHT be able to help. {:-) Regards Dave Strong ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Laird" <rll.geo@yahoo.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:27 AM Subject: [STRONG] family history (new subscriber) > Hello Hazel, > > I've taken the liberty of subscribing you to > STRONG-L. It costs nothing, of course. You > should by now have received a message detailing > your subscription, including instructions for > posting. I've also forwarded your message to > STRONG-L. > > You must be subscribed in order to post to the > list. As a subscriber, you will also receive a > copy of each message posted. > > We welcome you to STRONG-L, and if you have any > questions about how the list works, I stand reaady > to assist you in any way that I can. > > Best regards, > Russell Laird > STRONG-L admin > > > --- Lawrence <wallyhazel@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > I am reserching my Family ,the Family of my > > Grandmother in Cramlington .Northumberland Strongs > > ,leading to Blight .very new at this so I am not > > qiute sure what to do here. > > > > Hazel Lawrence > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > STRONG FAMILY ASSOCIATON OF AMERICA (SFAA) web site: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4715 > > Strong(e)s of Somerset, Dorset, and Devon Counties, England, > including ancestors of "Elder" John Strong; queries about > descendants of "Elder" John Strong answered by the SFAA > Historian, Robert Sheldon ("Bob") Strong, from his extensive > electronic database. > ========================================================== > >

Hello Hazel, I've taken the liberty of subscribing you to STRONG-L. It costs nothing, of course. You should by now have received a message detailing your subscription, including instructions for posting. I've also forwarded your message to STRONG-L. You must be subscribed in order to post to the list. As a subscriber, you will also receive a copy of each message posted. We welcome you to STRONG-L, and if you have any questions about how the list works, I stand reaady to assist you in any way that I can. Best regards, Russell Laird STRONG-L admin --- Lawrence <wallyhazel@shaw.ca> wrote: > I am reserching my Family ,the Family of my > Grandmother in Cramlington .Northumberland Strongs > ,leading to Blight .very new at this so I am not > qiute sure what to do here. > > Hazel Lawrence __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Don... Thanks for answering Barrie's query! {:-) Best Regards, Dave Strong ... DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Gregg To: Barrie Wright Cc: David Strong Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: L'Estrange family Hello Barrie Due to the dedicated service provided by David Strong, we have received your e-mail of 27 January and read it with interest. My wife Daphne (nee REID) is descended from the Irish L'ESTRANGE or LE STRANGE family as you will see from the attached tree. Her parents emigrated from Dublin to New Zealand in 1923 and we shifted from NZ to Tasmania in 1972. Most of the information came from unpublished family histories, some of which are included on Patrick Harris's website http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Stage/7818/lestrange/ls11.htm . This has been checked and revised recently with the help of John R Mayer's 'Extraneus, vol 2, Le Strange of Anglia and Eire' (2nd ed, Arapacana Press, 2002). The first member of the Norfolk family to settle in Ireland appears to have been Richard LE STRANGE (c1516 to before 1590) who took up land in Co Roscommon about 1545 and lived at Castle Lestrange. John Mayer has Anne L'ESTRANGE (born c 1629, daughter of Thomas L'ESTRANGE of Moyston, King's Co, born c 1608) marrying Richard WARBURTON, MP Best wishes from Tasmania Don Gregg

In a message dated 1/27/03 8:48:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, dbstrong@sos.net writes: > I should re-iterate the point that the study participants MUST be male > Strange/Stronge/Strong/Strang/L'Estranges, or other variant spellings. > The > Y chromosome testing involved descends from father to son over many > generations, relatively unchanged (there is a mutation rate estimated at > one > in 500 years... which must be dealt with). However, as females do not > have > a Y chromosome, we can not follow the lineage to a male descendant of a > female member of the lineage. The linkage is broken, and the male > descendants of a female will have the Y-chromosome patterns of their > fathers Ohhhh, my GrandMother was the L'estrange and that linkage is broken. How sad...for me. Janice Boston

Hello Mike, are L'Estrange's included in this survey? Are you at all interested in the L'Estrange's from Ireland, predominantly Counties Meath, WestMeath and Offaly? If 'yes', please add me to your mailing list.....thank you so much. Thanks, Janice Boston, MA. USA In a message dated 1/27/03 1:50:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, smike@globalnet.co.uk writes:> > Thank you David, I have been forwarding your information about the study to my STRANGE mail list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STRANGE_thename but I do not know if any of the folk there have joined in the study. All of the information, concerning STRANGE, STRAINGE, STRAUNGE etc (but not STRONG), that people post on my mail list goes on my web site: www.yourtotalevent.com Regards Mike Strange Bedfordshire, England *********************************************************** Researching STRANGE in Oxfordshire and Berkshire. Identified cousins in USA and Canada with common ancestors up to 7 generations back and with the name STRANGE. *********************************************************** ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== ======================================================== Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer ==========================================================

Hi.. I am trying to find any information on George Otto Strong who was born abt 1897 in ILL...he was married to Nora Alberta Kelley on 30 Jun 1921. I would appreciate any information that there is on him and Nora....whether they had children, deaths etc...... Any help is appreciated... Stephanie Grohol

Why am I participating in the DNA study? I hope that my explanation might persuade the STRONGs who still hesitate, to take the step of signing up. We need the participation of those who hesitate in this cooperative venture. Your results have great potential both for yourself and for us. EXPLANATION: We have only a certain amount of time, energy and resources we can spend on our researches. DNA results allow us to prioritise our efforts and direct them to areas which have the greatest chance of success. Many of us have pre-conceived notions of which branches of the STRONG family our own family is related to. Accordingly we have collected information about these branches, hoping to establish definite links at some later stage... using the usual rigorous genealogical standards of proof. What if we are wrong? We have wasted valuable time! Let's now use the information given on October 25, 2002, by Jim Hull, Hull Surname DNA Coordinator who gave an explanation of DNA procedure and FAQs to the STRONG mailing list. Let's CONSIDER A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION. Suppose you have joined the DNA Survey and you obtain a result such as: (a) all 25 markers match with a hypothetical George W. STRONG with family from Tyrone. (b) no matches elsewhere You accordingly divert your energies from say Co. Donegal into the history of Co. Tyrone and links with George W.'s family, since there is a 50% probability that the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) shared by your family and George W.'s family is 7 generations OR less from the person who provided the sample. Here you make a detour from the certainties of genealogical proof to probabilities and statistics.... this may be the sticking point for some. As a biologist I never found the mathematics of statistics an easy study. You have a 50/50 chance. You have to hope for the favourable 50% in which the MRCA is less than 7, and acknowledge that the precise generation in which the MRCA connection is made is not given, just a range with a probability of 50%. I stress.... you continue with the same standards of proof for placing a person in a family tree.... the DNA data may give us a better idea of where to look. Let's suppose that you can only go back 5 generations to your g-g-g grandfather Cyril Stronge b. 1802. What do you do now? You now know with George W.'s information, that you are in with a chance to look for STRONGs in Co. Tyrone around 1800 at a mere 6 generations back... a distinctly possible MRCA within the 50% chance that the MRCA is less than 7? A better prospect than looking exclusively in County Donegal! AND THAT GIVES FOCUS TO YOUR RESEARCH EFFORTS, POTENTIALLY SAVING VALUABLE TIME AND MONEY! Why am I personally excited about the prospect of DNA results? My g-g-g grandfather was John STRONG of Drumbo, Co. Down, perhaps b. ~1775. I have recently found an American family who also claims a John STRONG of Drumbo around the same time. How many John STRONGs in that area at that time? If it was the same John STRONG, then he escaped to the USA and raised another family over there. As I write, I hope that a male STRONG of this USA family is using his DNA toothbrush and a match will be made with my family! DNA is surely a chance for a major breakthrough in our family history in our own life time! **Philip Strong**Email:plstrong@pnc.com.au**Blue Mountains, Australia** Interest:STRONG(E)s of Drumbo,Knocknagoney,Belfast Ireland early 1800's then New Zealand after 1875. See web site "STRONGs of Ulster,Ireland" http://www.pnc.com.au/~plstrong/ ---------------------------------------------------

Barrie... Thanks for your message. It's been a while since I concentrated on the L'Estrange lineage, and I am afraid my memory on the question you raise concerning the link between the Irish L'Estranges and the Norfolk LeStrange lineage is a bit shakey at the moment. Have you tried contacting Patrick Harris in New Zealand, per my earlier message? Patrick is much more knowledgable re this lineage than me.... and there are some other researchers who may also have some insights as well. I will copy them on this answer and hope they can leap in ... As to your question re the construction of the DNA Study, you are correct that we need to establish the prototypical Haplotypes for the various lineages. However, we might never get the job done if we waited for someone to step forward who could claim that prototypical haplotype and volunteer into the study. We need any and all interested participants to step forward as soon as they can. There is always the possibility that THEY may be the prototype we need ... and there is also the possibility that they might provide the necessary linkage or match between subordinate lineages. I should re-iterate the point that the study participants MUST be male Strange/Stronge/Strong/Strang/L'Estranges, or other variant spellings. The Y chromosome testing involved descends from father to son over many generations, relatively unchanged (there is a mutation rate estimated at one in 500 years... which must be dealt with). However, as females do not have a Y chromosome, we can not follow the lineage to a male descendant of a female member of the lineage. The linkage is broken, and the male descendants of a female will have the Y-chromosome patterns of their fathers... whether Smiths or Jones' or whomever. Regards, Dave Strong ... DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie J M Wright" <bjwright@senet.com.au> To: <STRANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [STRANGE] DNA Study Update 26 January 2003 > Greetings from Australia > David, > > Just to encourage you in your project on a ground-breaking area > of research. I am holding my fire so far, as the LATEST L'Estrange > connection to my line is -apparently - ANNE L'Estrange md > George WARBURTON, MP of Aughrim Co Galway. [d 1709] > > I am working on the ancestry of this Anne, who may be the daughter of > HAMON L'Estrange of Sedgeford, Norfolk [1605-1660] > and Judith BAGNALL: > > HAMON: > Baptised at Sedgeford,Norfolk, 29 Aug 1605 (par.reg.), was second son of Sir > Hamon L'Estrange, Knight of Hunstanton, Norfolk, and brother of Sir > Nicholas, the first baronet, and of Sir Roger. The father, great-grandson > of Sir Nicholas le Strange, born in 1583, was knighted by James 1 at the > Tower of London on 13 March 1603-4; was sheriff of Norfolk in 1609, and M.P. > for the county in 1630; was royalist governor of Lynn in 1643, suffered much > for his loyalty to the king, and died at Hunstanton 31 May 1654. > > I don't know how the Norfolk-Ireland link occurred, if correct. > Do you? As follows? -because of an earlier Irish link? > VIZ: > Interestingly, It may be that George Warburton's father John was ALSO > married > to an Irish MISS L'Estrange > [ref: DAUGHTER OF THOMAS L'ESTRANGE AT CASTLESTRANGE, > IN THE COUNTY OF ROSCOMMON, AFTERWARDS OF MOY'S TOWN, > IN KINGS COUNTY, ESQ] > > This would 'concentrate' the L'Estrange DNA in my line I imagine, if these > are > indeed the same English lines a few generations back. > > These two apparently linked old L'ESTRANGE lines obviously need good > confirmation, and I guess you know of both of them already. > My line may be significant for recombining two spearated lines. > > Am I right that the FIRST stage of your project must be identifying and > isolating useful 'L'Estrange Distinctives'? > Only then would it be possibly useful to people like me, who is about > 8th gt grandchild removed. > > I am impressed by all the effort you are putting into this project. > You seem to be going about it in a very professional way. > > Best wishes > > Barrie Wright > > Adelaide > South AUSTRALIA > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David B. Strong" <dbstrong@sos.net> > To: <STRANGE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:08 AM > Subject: [STRANGE] DNA Study Update 26 January 2003 > > > > To all... > > > > A quick update re the progress of the DNA Study. We now have six sets > of > > results, interestingly enough each presenting a different haplotype. > This > > will present some opportunities for further discussion and comparison when > > we have additional results from other participants. At present there are > > 19 members of the study.... and there are others who are interested in > > joining. The process does take time, and when we receive results > depends > > on various factors, including when the sample is submitted by the > > participant, how long the sample is held by FTDNA prior to being sent in a > > batch to the lab for testing; whether the lab is able to get a valid set > of > > test results on the first attempt, or has to retest; and so on. For > > participants and other interested on-lookers, all I can counsel at this > > point is to get your samples submitted so the process can be started, > > because it does take time... and to be patient. > > > > This weekend I received results for two participants. One had 12 marker > > (STR) results just three days ago, and now we have his remaining 13 > > additional marker results (PP3) this weekend. I also received PP3 > results > > on another participant which we had been awaiting since receiving his 12 > > marker STR results Dec. 15th! > > > > At present we have just six sets of test results. All of them present > > different Haplotypes... which I see as an opportunity for others to > > compare. Further, we have 13 additional sets of results in various > stages > > of process, which will need to be presented in due course. But, the > project > > needs proper presentation and an approach which will both generate further > > participation and at the same time re-assure people that "we are doing it > > right". I hope to present the results in a fashion which will be usable > to > > all without disclosing whose particular DNA is being discussed. And, I > > might point out, we don't want to identify the particular participants > with > > their DNA results because it could result in their results being broadcast > > around without sufficient thought being given to privacy concerns. > > > > I have mentioned in a prior message that I am working on a "results" > > webpage. That is true; however, I have been sidetracked a bit by > personal > > concerns.... a family funeral; reorganizing my office; need to address > some > > fiduciary responsibilities I have re Federal Income Tax preparations for > > some trusts I am involved with; and the like. Life has it's > complications. > > I DO intend to get the results page done relatively soon... and I > > appreciate your patience and forebearance; together with your continued > > interest in the DNA Study and it's results. > > > > Regards, > > Dave Strong ... > > DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: > > Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, > > entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm > > & > > Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm > > Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and > > related families. > > ============================================================== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi... Thanks for responding to my earlier message asking for volunteers re the John Strange and Phebe Mitchell lineage. Unfortunately, we need a living male Strange descendant to participate in the study. If you know of such a person, we would welcome him to the Study. You can review the perameters of the Study at the following website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm Thanks again.... Dave Strong DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMurcia7@aol.com> To: <STRANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [STRANGE] DNA Study Update 26 January 2003 > I believe I am a decendant of John Strange and Phebe Mitchell. Below you > will see a decendant outline from him to me BUT I haven't personally verified > all this info. I have verified back to Alexander Strange and Sarah Age of > Kentucky; someone else has given me the rest of the info which I have be > trying to work on (with not much luck or time). Can anyone verify this line? > I'm definitely a STRANGE but not sure of the line. I would be interested in > participating in this study. Apparently I missed something though.... how do > we sign up? > > Here's my outline: > > Direct Descendants of John Strange > > 1 John Strange b: 1635 d: 1685 in England > .... +Phebe Mitchell b: 1635 in Bideford, Devonshire, England m: > Abt. 1658 d: 1710 in Elizabeth City, Virginia > ... 2 Alexander Strange b: 1665 in New Kent, Virginia d: September > 02, 1725 in New Kent County, Virginia > ......... +Anne b: 1667 m: 1690 d: January 29, 1717/18 in New Kent > County, Virginia > ........ 3 Alexander Strange b: October 18, 1691 in St. Peters Parish, > New Kent Co., Virginia d: 1745 in New Kent County, Virginia > .............. +Sarah? b: Abt. 1695 in New Kent County, Virginia m: > Abt. 1713 > ............. 4 Benjamin Strange b: March 14, 1715/16 in St. Peter's > Parish, New Kent County, Virginia d: 1760 in Charlotte County, Virginia > ................... +Anne ? m: Abt. 1734 > .................. 5 Julius Strange b: 1740 in Halifax County, Virginia > d: 1810 in Halifax County, Virginia > ........................ +Sally Stokes m: 1765 in Halifax, > Virginia > ....................... 6 William Strange b: 1772 in Halifax County, > Virginia d: 1830 in Edmonson Co., Kentucky > ............................. +Sallie Walker b: June 10, 1776 in > Halifax County, Virginia m: in Virginia d: 1829 in Davidson County, > Tennessee > ............................ 7 John Yancey Strange b: 1800 in Halifax > County, Virginia d: Abt. 1878 in Edmonson Co., Kentucky > .................................. +Rebecca Van Zant b: Abt. 1795 in > Georgia? m: January 30, 1821 in Barren County, Kentucky d: Aft. 1870 in > Edmonson, Kentucky > ................................. 8 Alexander Strange b: June 1829 in > Edmonson, Kentucky d: 1879 in Kentucky > ....................................... +Sarah Elizabeth Age b: > February 1829 in Tennessee m: December 28, 1853 in Edmonson, Kentucky d: > Aft. 1853 > ....................................... 9 William Walker Strange b: > November 11, 1854 in Edmonson, Kentucky d: January 31, 1912 in Jefferson > County, Kentucky > ............................................. +Sarah Ann Miles b: > July 26, 1859 in Cheatham or Clay County, Tennessee m: March 12, 1875 in > Edmonson Co., Kentucky d: October 27, 1938 in Kentucky > ............................................ 10 Belvie Valentine > Strange b: February 14, 1887 in Mammoth Cave, Edmonson Co., Kentucky > d: June 27, 1960 in Jefferson County, Kentucky > .................................................. +Mildred L. Bone > b: August 30, 1894 in Stockholm, Edmonson County, Kentucky m: December 24, > 1908 in Edmonson Co., Kentucky d: October 24, 1979 in Kewanee, Henry County, > Illinois > ................................................. 11 Hazel Marie > Strange b: May 02, 1920 in Louisville, Kentucky d: April 12, 1985 in > Ramona, San Diego County, California > ....................................................... +Clarence Andrew > Edwards b: October 05, 1915 in Lafayette, Illinois d: January 21, 1973 > in Kewanee, Henry County, Illinois > ...................................................... 12 William > Thomas Edwards b: April 08, 1937 in Kewanee, Henry County, Illinois > ............................................................ +Mary > Bernardine Dahms b: September 28, 1940 in Flushing, Queens, NY m: > December 07, 1963 in Davenport, Iowa > ........................................................... 13 Christine > Katherine Edwards b: May 27, 1967 in St. Luke's Hospital, Davenport, Iowa > (currently Genesis-East Medical Center, Davenport, Iowa/Davenport, Scott Co., > IA > > > In a message dated 1/27/2003 11:42:01 AM Central Standard Time, > dbstrong@sos.net writes: > > > Thanks for your interest. I intend to post a Results page on my website > > soon which will set out exactly the distribution of name participants in > > the > > DNA Study. We have not had a huge number of Strange (or Strang) > > participants so far, but indeed we would welcome any who want to join the > > study. We are just now starting to gain results sufficient to aide > > interested genealogists with further research. Everyone who joins the > > study will be contributing to our over-all level of knowledge. One thing > > which is so far apparent from the results we have is that the Strange of > > Virginia Haplotype is DIFFERENT from the Strong of Virginia Haplotype... > > thus indicating the two families have different origins in England. > > Perhaps this is a score for the "Strange purists"! {:-) > > > > I can also tell you that we have a Strange participant who can directly > > trace lineage a Henry Strange in the early days of the colonization of > > Virginia, and who hypothesizes that Henry was descended from John Strange > > and Phebe Mitchell of Devon, England, circa 1600. We would be MOST > > interested in having any English descendants of John Strange and Phebe > > Mitchell come forward to join the study... and indeed any Stranges of > > Devon. > > Our present participant would be very interested whether a DNA match can be > > established. Any help you can provide in soliciting such participation > > would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Mike. Thanks for your interest. I intend to post a Results page on my website soon which will set out exactly the distribution of name participants in the DNA Study. We have not had a huge number of Strange (or Strang) participants so far, but indeed we would welcome any who want to join the study. We are just now starting to gain results sufficient to aide interested genealogists with further research. Everyone who joins the study will be contributing to our over-all level of knowledge. One thing which is so far apparent from the results we have is that the Strange of Virginia Haplotype is DIFFERENT from the Strong of Virginia Haplotype... thus indicating the two families have different origins in England. Perhaps this is a score for the "Strange purists"! {:-) I can also tell you that we have a Strange participant who can directly trace lineage a Henry Strange in the early days of the colonization of Virginia, and who hypothesizes that Henry was descended from John Strange and Phebe Mitchell of Devon, England, circa 1600. We would be MOST interested in having any English descendants of John Strange and Phebe Mitchell come forward to join the study... and indeed any Stranges of Devon. Our present participant would be very interested whether a DNA match can be established. Any help you can provide in soliciting such participation would be greatly appreciated! Regards Dave Strong ... DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ============================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Strange" <smike@globalnet.co.uk> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [STRONG] DNA Study Update 26 January 2003 > On 26 Jan 2003, at 8:45, David B. Strong wrote: > > A quick update re the progress of the DNA Study. We now have six > > sets of results, interestingly enough each presenting a different > > haplotype. > <big snip> > > Thank you David, I have been forwarding your information about the > study to my STRANGE mail list: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STRANGE_thename but I do not know if > any of the folk there have joined in the study. > > To encourage us "pure" STRANGE lot to join in would you be so kind as > to summarize the distribution between name constructs (STRANGE, > STRONG etc) for future updates. > > All of the information, concerning STRANGE, STRAINGE, STRAUNGE etc > (but not STRONG), that people post on my mail list goes on my web > site: www.yourtotalevent.com > > Regards > Mike Strange > Bedfordshire, England > *********************************************************** > Researching STRANGE in Oxfordshire and Berkshire. Identified cousins > in USA and Canada with common ancestors up to 7 generations back and > with the name STRANGE. > *********************************************************** > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Descendants of Alexander Strange, immigrant from Devon, > England, to New Kent County, VA, including the Ancestry > of John Richard Mayer, d. 1998, San Francisco, CA. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/y/John-R-Mayer > ========================================================== > >

On 26 Jan 2003, at 8:45, David B. Strong wrote: > A quick update re the progress of the DNA Study. We now have six > sets of results, interestingly enough each presenting a different > haplotype. <big snip> Thank you David, I have been forwarding your information about the study to my STRANGE mail list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STRANGE_thename but I do not know if any of the folk there have joined in the study. To encourage us "pure" STRANGE lot to join in would you be so kind as to summarize the distribution between name constructs (STRANGE, STRONG etc) for future updates. All of the information, concerning STRANGE, STRAINGE, STRAUNGE etc (but not STRONG), that people post on my mail list goes on my web site: www.yourtotalevent.com Regards Mike Strange Bedfordshire, England *********************************************************** Researching STRANGE in Oxfordshire and Berkshire. Identified cousins in USA and Canada with common ancestors up to 7 generations back and with the name STRANGE. ***********************************************************

To all... A quick update re the progress of the DNA Study. We now have six sets of results, interestingly enough each presenting a different haplotype. This will present some opportunities for further discussion and comparison when we have additional results from other participants. At present there are 19 members of the study.... and there are others who are interested in joining. The process does take time, and when we receive results depends on various factors, including when the sample is submitted by the participant, how long the sample is held by FTDNA prior to being sent in a batch to the lab for testing; whether the lab is able to get a valid set of test results on the first attempt, or has to retest; and so on. For participants and other interested on-lookers, all I can counsel at this point is to get your samples submitted so the process can be started, because it does take time... and to be patient. This weekend I received results for two participants. One had 12 marker (STR) results just three days ago, and now we have his remaining 13 additional marker results (PP3) this weekend. I also received PP3 results on another participant which we had been awaiting since receiving his 12 marker STR results Dec. 15th! At present we have just six sets of test results. All of them present different Haplotypes... which I see as an opportunity for others to compare. Further, we have 13 additional sets of results in various stages of process, which will need to be presented in due course. But, the project needs proper presentation and an approach which will both generate further participation and at the same time re-assure people that "we are doing it right". I hope to present the results in a fashion which will be usable to all without disclosing whose particular DNA is being discussed. And, I might point out, we don't want to identify the particular participants with their DNA results because it could result in their results being broadcast around without sufficient thought being given to privacy concerns. I have mentioned in a prior message that I am working on a "results" webpage. That is true; however, I have been sidetracked a bit by personal concerns.... a family funeral; reorganizing my office; need to address some fiduciary responsibilities I have re Federal Income Tax preparations for some trusts I am involved with; and the like. Life has it's complications. I DO intend to get the results page done relatively soon... and I appreciate your patience and forebearance; together with your continued interest in the DNA Study and it's results. Regards, Dave Strong ... DNA Study Coordinator & webmaster: Book I: RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/contents.htm Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13, entitled "Lineages"; and Chapt. 15, "DNA Study" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnastudy.htm & Book II: THE DONEGAL STRONG PUZZLE: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/indxdrft.htm Research and study of Counties Donegal and Fermanagh Strongs and related families. ==============================================================

----- Original Message ----- From: <mamsbury@earthlink.net> To: <STRANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [STRANGE] John Strange Harrison Co., Virginia age 16 1806 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Strange Tingle Boston Baston > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nMQBAIB/552 > > Message Board Post: > > FHL# 0250014 Harrison Co., VA Misc. Records. > Typed version, page # 11, then original page #25. > October 22 1805 > > Ordered that John Strange be bound to Henry Boston until he arrive at the age of 21 years and to learn the Hatters Trade and that the Overseers of the Poor execute indentures accordingly. > Typed version page #41 then original page #100 > Ordered that a former order of this Court to bind John Strange, aged 16 years to be recinded. > This day John Strange, aged 16 years, came into court and made choice of John Tingle for his Guardian who is accordingly appointed, > > I am doing the Boston/Baston Family only hope this helps someone for John Strange. Michelle > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Jacques.... Are you still on this list? I tried reaching you recently via the email address listed below, unsuccessfully. If you receive this, please let me know how to contact you. Thanks, Dave Strong ================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <JLesStrang@aol.com> To: <STRONG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Strange list > Good news on the Strange name. I worked with John Mayer until his death to > link up with the LeStrange or LesStrang genealogy and have a tie now to this > name in Kentucky. He has a chapter in his yet unpublished book on "The > LesStrangs of Pittsburgh" unless Barbara Way, his sister, has put it into > print. We have learned that early origins may have come out of Kentucky > under one of the various names -- such as Strange -- we seem to be plagued > with. My son David has provided a link to the records department in Kentucky > -- we are seeking death records -- and will pursue it. Do you have a Strange > list for the 1800's-or-so for that state or can tell me where to find it? > This may well be our next link. Thanks! > Jacques LesStrang > Jlesstrang@aol.com > > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > THE STRONG ROOTS DATABASE: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jgilbert/main/srd-toc.htm > > Strong Ancestor Charts, in GEDCOM to HTML format. > ========================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >