ATTENTION: Sue Strong Hassler An index to the 1850 census of Missouri shows your ancestor, Isaiah Strong, residing in Greene County. Also in Greene County in 1850 was the household of Noah Strong, who has been discussed on the Strong Mail List in the past--probably 1997. Consider the possibility that Noah Strong was the father of your Isaiah Strong. Noah Strong is probably the same person as N. F. Strong who was enumerated on the 1830 census of Giles County, Tennessee, and an 1832 tax list in the same county. The location is strong evidence that N. F. Strong was a son of David Strong and his wife, Lucretia Irvine Strong, of Giles County, TN. Here is the probable lineage: GENERATION 1: John Strong, Sr., of St. Peter's Parish, probably New Kent Co., VA, from before 1698 to after 1703. GENERATION 2: John Strong, Jr., christened in St. Peter's Parish, 1698, died by 1751 in St. Martin's Parish, western Hanover County, VA. Much of what is known of this John Strong was found in the records of "Col." John Chiswell's general store in Hanover County. Among those who made purchases that were charged to the account of John Strong, deceased, in the 1750s was Martin Strong. The wife and widow of John Strong, Jr., was likely Mrs. Mary Strong, who resided with John Strong, III, in Goochland County, VA, in the 1770a and 1780s. GENERATION 3: John Strong, III, was a French and Indian War Veteran, who swore before the Goochland County, VA, court in 1779 and 1780 that Martin Strong [my probable ancestor] was his brother and was the heir at law of Sherwood Strong, a deceased veteran of the French and Indian Wars. That is, Martin was eligible to collect the military land grant of 50 acres due to Sherwood Strong or his heirs. Much is known about this John Strong. His legal records begin in Louisa County, VA, in the 1760s (with Nathan Strong, Sr., nearby), then he purchased land on the Lickinghole Creek in Goochland County and relocated there around early 1770s. He remained in Goochland County until about 1789 when he relocated to Campbell Co., VA. Finally he relocated to Georgia where his records are found in Olgethorpe and Clarke Counties. His will was proved in Clarke County. Charles Strong, Rev. War veteran, son of John Strong, III, swore he was born in Hanover County, VA, in 1763. The wife of John Strong, III, remains unidentified except her given name was Elizabeth. It has been speculated she was a Turnbull but no proof has been presented. GENERATION 4: David Strong did not accompany his father to Georgia as the other children of John Strong, III, apparently did. He is found residing in Charlotte County, VA, in 1810 and on the 1820, 1830, 1840, and 1850 census of Giles County, Tennessee. His death in March, 1860, was recorded on the 1860 Mortality Schedule for Giles County, Tennessee. His age was reported to be 86 years (born about 1774, VA, when his father was residing in Goochland County). David Strong and Lucretia Irvine were married on 5 JUN 1794 in Campbell Co., VA. Below is the approximate structure of David and Lucretia Strong's family from the 1810 and 1820 census records. There were 11 persons in the household in 1810, plus two born after 1810, but only 10 were enumerated in 1820. The identity of the second adult male in both 1810 and 1820 is unknown. Born 1765-1774 2 Males, 1 Female Born 1794-1800 1 Male, 2 Females Born 1801-1810 4 Males, 1 Female ================================== Born 1795-1804 1 Female Born 1800-1802 1 Male Born 1803-1804 1 Male Born 1805-1810 2 Males ================================== Born 1811-1820 1 Male, 1 Female On the 1830 census of Giles County, Tennessee, David Strong and N. F. Strong were enumerated on Page 176 on successive lines, suggesting they were residing on the same or adjacent properties. N. F. Strong was shown as age 20-29 (born 1801 to 1810) and his apparent bride was listed as age 10-14 years (born 1826 to 1830). They had no children at the time of the 1830 census but had one slave, a female. In 1830, David Strong, Sr., appeared to have two sons residing at home. They were ages 20-29 (born 1801-1810) and 15-19 (born 1811-1815). So it does not appear that David Strong had a son born about 1820. It seems clear that any children of N. F. Strong would have been born in 1830 or later. That does not seem consistent with his being the father of Isaiah Strong, whom you reported was born about 1820 in Tennessee. On a visit to the Giles County Court House in the early 1980s, I was unable to find a marriage records for N. F. or Noah Strong. The courthouse had burned a couple of times. Marriage Records, Book 1, begins in 1865. In 1840, Noah Strong was residing in Barry County, Missouri. For more about Noah Strong, perform a search of the archived messages for the Strong Mail List, searching separately for "Noah and Strong" and "N. F. and Strong". Here is the URL for all mail lists. Just enter "Strong" in the blank and click on the Submit button to be taken to the Strong archives. http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Happy Hunting! "Bob T." Robert T. Strong, Jr. 119 Mystic Way Madison, Al 35757-8801

1)Be careful to watch the census index for spelling. I was having a great deal of trouble finding my family of Ingalls. I spent a lot of time looking. I happened to glance down at the bottom side of the the 1870 Minnesota census index and saw a family with all the first names that matched my Ingalls family. The name had been spelled Infalls and looked like Infalls on the handwritten census as well but was most definitely my family in Blue Earth, Minnesota. 2)When things get where I can't find the people where I expected. I begin expanding to all those surnames in the County, then to the surrounding counties. Of course, it helps to realize that the counties were often broken down into smaller counties. One of my family lines in New Jersey lived in Morris County, but at an earlier time Morris was included. When it broke off, part became named Sussex. Thus some of my relatives who lived in Morris were now living in Sussex County. When all else fails, I may resort to ever more area within a state. Kay Smith ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I've done a lot of geneology research but have never used the census much as it's just too intimidating. This was most helpful. Yes, please continue providing any help you think might be useful. I haven't posted here before, though I've enjoyed reading all the posts. My name is Angel (Strong) Smits and I've been searching my Strong family for many years. I have lots of names and dates and am now "filling in" with the stories of my ancestors. My current focus is on my gggrandfather, Adley Andrew Strong. Adley was married 3 times, and had 9 children by his first wife, Druscilla Curry. I am descended from Adley's youngest son, Charles. I would love to hear from anyone else who is a descendent of Adley's. The first two children died as babies. Samantha, died when she was 21 from TB. George was married but I don't know if he had children. William Warren married but had no children. Samuel had 2 children, Mabel and Grover. Mary Annis had several children and I know nothing about the youngest, Laura except she married a man whose last name was Fletcher. If anyone knows this family, I'd love to hear from you. I have Adley and Druscilla's Bible, dated 1854 with several interesting artifacts including locks of hair. I've scanned images of them and would gladly share. Hope to hear from someone. Thanks for letting me lurk and "listen". Angel Smits www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/1670 -----Original Message----- From: Russell Laird <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 8:34 PM Subject: (Fwd) Fw: [HUNT-L] Census Records, 1850-1920 ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-to: <[email protected]> From: "SANFORD B HUNT" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Fw: [HUNT-L] Census Records, 1850-1920 I don't want to overdo "CENSUS 101" but this information may be useful. Sandy Hunt in Lubbock(Hannah Descendant).

Sue; Sometimes the actual record of an event contains additional information. If you know where and when he was married, the next step is to get a look at the RECORD of his marriage. It may contain the date and place of birth, names of parents place of residence or other useful clues. Also - please post whatever information you have on Isaiah such as names of children or town of residence because those details may be what someone else on the list will recognize. Good luck! Lindsey DiCosola [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I don't know if anyone out there can help me......probably not. My gggrandfather, Isaiah Strong, is lost. I can't find him at all in infancy, don't know who his father is. I got a FTM upgrade, which included a free look-up from the Mormons, and even THEY struck out. I don't know what to do next. Any suggestions???? I do know when he got married, and where, 1844 (Louisa Turesa Daily), but that doesn't seem to help me. Would appreciate any suggestions. Sue Strong Hassler

At 08:05 AM 8/27/98 -0400, you wrote: >I don't know if anyone out there can help me......probably not. My >gggrandfather, Isaiah Strong, is lost. I can't find him at all in >infancy, don't know who his father is. I got a FTM upgrade, which >included a free look-up from the Mormons, and even THEY struck out. I >don't know what to do next. Any suggestions???? I do know when he got >married, and where, 1844 (Louisa Turesa Daily), but that doesn't seem to >help me. Would appreciate any suggestions. > Sue Strong Hassler ============================================================= You will find something about an Isaiah Strong, born Tennessee in the 1820s, on Family Tree Maker's World Family Tree CD #4, Tree #2157. Maybe some kind subscriber to the Strong Mail List could do a look-up for you. I do not have this CD. Where did Isaiah Strong and Louisa Turesa Daily marry in 1844? You have previously reported that Isaiah Strong was in Missouri in 1850 when his son, James Ray Strong, was born there, that he had resided in Green County, Missouri, and that he died in Doniphan County, Kansas, in 1898. Please post the 1880 census record of Isaiah Strong. Particularly, where did the census report say Isaiah's parents were born? Where did the 1880 census records of Isaiah's children say their father was born? Don't forget that nativities reported on census and other records were not always reliable. There were reports by his own children, reputably taken from his Family Bible, that one of my ancestors was born in the Florida Territory in 1811. He wasn't! He was born in North Carolina, per his own consistent reports to census takers and supported by his parent's marriage record in North Carolina. I wasted an enormous amount of time pursuing the erroneous Florida report. Did Isaiah Strong consistently report he was born in Tennessee? Did his children also unaminously report in 1880 that Isaiah Strong was born in Tennessee? Assuming that Isaiah Strong was born in Tennessee in 1820, if he departed the state before attaining legal adulthood, before marrying, before purchasing any property, etc., then it would be no surprise if he left no tracks. In that case you would need to look for his parents. There were very few Strongs in Tennessee in 1820 or earlier. See the short list of seven households on the 1820 census of Tennessee. On a list I compiled, I show 10 households: John, Thomas, Samuel, James, and William Strong (from Rockingham Co., NC) in Smith County; Sherwood Strong in Davidson County; Thomas Strong (brother of Sherwood) in Rutherford County; Thomas Strong (son of Sherwood) in Sumner County; David Strong (cousin of Sherwood) in Giles County; Christopher Strong (from Chester Co., SC) in Dickson County. There were a couple of early Strongs whose placement was uncertain, such as a Lyman J. Strong, a young lawyer, in Sumner and Davidson Counties and later Shelby County (1830), and a Julia Strong who married a John Baker in 1811. Lyman was too young to have been your ancestor. A John Strong who died in Davidson Co., about 1811 can obviously be excluded, too. A Joseph Strong who sold a lot in Nashville in 1808 has not been accounted for later. I have not been able to identify an Augustus Strong or a David T. Strong who appeared on records before 1810 in Roane and Knox Counties, respectively. A John C. Strong in Bedford County, TN, in 1812 has not been identified. A John "Stron" vs. "Strawn" died in Davidson Co., TN, about 1824. He and his wife, "Polly", were mistakently identified on some records as being Strongs. Could their children have taken the name Strong? There were more "Strawns" in Lawrence and Franklin Counties, TN, who were confused with Strongs. Lets assume your ancestor, Isaiah Strong, was still residing in Tennessee in 1830. Which Strongs in Tennessee had sons, grandsons, or other males in their households who were age 10 or less in 1830? Age 10-14, or born 1816-1820: Sherwood Strong of Rutherford County (my ancestor), John Strong of Smith County (from Rockingham Co., NC) , Thomas Strong of Gibson County (brother of Sherwood). Age 5-9, or born 1821-1825: Isham Strong of Davidson County (my ancestor); Thomas Strong of Davidson Co. (son of Sherwood); Nelson Strong of Rutherford County (probable nephew of Sherwood); Thomas Strong of Smith County (from Rockingham Co., NC); Thomas Strong of Gibson County (brother of Shewood). Combine these lists and you have a short list, indeed. Some of the above young males, born between 1816-1825, have been identified. Others have not. Were there other Strongs residing in the same Missouri counties with Isaiah Strong? Particularly, was there a Strong in the same county who was old enough to have been his father or his mother? Bob Robert T. Strong, Jr. 119 Mystic Way Madison, Al 35757-8801

Thanks for visiting the Strong Ancestry (Strong-Gossage Ancestral Database) and signing the Guest Register. You indicated you did not have any idea how to get started researching your Strong ancestry. You stated you were born in 1939, the son of LeRoy Fisher Strong and the grandson of Fred Arthur Strong. You have two brothers, twins, born 1943. [You share the same birth day with my own twin sons, now age 40.] I recommend you subscribe to the Strong Mailing List at <[email protected]>. Send only one word in the body of the message: subscribe A Subject line is optional. I suggest "Subscribe to Strong-L". No signature block should be added to your message body and nothing besides the one word should appear in the body of the message. After you subcribe, you will automatically receive a copy of every message posted to the Strong Mail List: several a day, usually. Once you are subscribed you can submit your enquiry to the approximately 170 Strong researchers, some of whom resided in California and have connections to California Strongs. The address for sending messages to the List is <[email protected]>. When and where did your grandfather, Fred Arthur Strong, die? I checked the Social Security Death Index and found 62 Fred Strong's listed. Of these, there were seven who had been issued Social Security Cards in California. Without more details I cannot tell which one might be your grandfather. You can perform the SSDI search yourself at two locations. For hotlinks, go to this page on my OTHER web site, The Strong Quest. http://ro.com/~rts2/quest/links.html You will find some other helpful links on this page, including a half dozen or more genealogical databases that can be searched online. Family Finder Index is probably the best place to start. A copy of this message is being forwarded to the Strong Mail List. It would be better, though, if you submitted a query that contains more detail. One way of doing this is to complete the Guest Register at The Strong Quest web site, which includes a survey and questionnaire, including a questionnaire about your Strong ancestry. The more details you provide, the more likelihood that someone will make a connection to your family. This is the opening page of the Strong Quest web site. There is a link on this page to the Guest Register. http://ro.com/~rts2/quest/index.html You should also check the 1920, 1910, and 1900 census records for your Strongs. The Census Records are by State and County. You need to know in which State and County your Strongs were residing at these times. Census records on microfilm are available at most metropolitan libraries and can be ordered on interllibrary loan from the nearest LDS Family History Center (nearest LDS Stake or church) for a nominal fee to cover delivery costs to and from. If you find your Strongs on the census, be sure to abstract the entire records and to make a note about which Microcopy was used in your search: Name of State, County, Microcopy Number, and Census Page Number and Dwelling Number. This helps others find the same data. These more recently released census reports may give some numbers like Surpervisor District, Enumeration District, etc. Make a note of these, too. The 1930 census records are due to be released to the public in the year 2000. Once you identify which Fred Strong was your ancestor, you will probably be able to order his birth and death certificates, which should identify his parents. With a date of death, you can search for obituaries and burial records, the latter at the Funeral Home that handled the interrment. If you know the State and County where your ancestor resided, you can also search the county Probate Records, Marriage Records, Court Orders, grants and deeds, etc. Genealogical data can be found in any of these records. You keep working backwards to research your ancestry. You can search for data on the Internet but you will get more returns for your time at a good genealogy collection in a major library. [Don't overlook State University libraries.] The folks on the Strong Mail List are quite helpful. Just ask some questions and you will likely receive one or more answers (replies). If you are in California near a metropolitan area, check the public library for a book entitled "Strong Men and Strong Women" by Jean Waters, or something like that. She was from California and wrote a book on the genealogy of her Strongs, which I believe included tracing descent from the 1635 immigrant, John Strong of Somerser Shire, England, who settled in Massachusetts but also resided in Connecticut. My descent is from a John Strong who was residing in Virginia about 1700. The third major Strong family in America settled in Chester County, SC; they were of Irish and Scot-Irish descent. Happy Hunting! Have a Great Day! Bob Robert T. Strong, Jr. 119 Mystic Way Madison, Al 35757-8801

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-to: <[email protected]> From: "SANFORD B HUNT" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Fw: [HUNT-L] Census Records, 1850-1920 I don't want to overdo "CENSUS 101" but this information may be useful. Sandy Hunt in Lubbock(Hannah Descendant). ---------- > From: John Capestro <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HUNT-L] Hunt Census Records, 1850-1920 > Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 1:17 PM > > I have had several List members who have asked me specific questions > concerning Census research. This posting is intended to respond to all of > those private emails in a little more detail than I originally provided. > (The info that follows was abstracted/edited/amended from a NARA > publication. Many good reference books exist.) > > My apolegies to those of you who have completed your Census work years > ago!!! We DO have a number of List members who are just getting started in > their research. > > If anyone on the List derives (or sees) any benefit from this info - please > drop me a short email. Receiving none (or very few), I will NOT do this > type of "Genealogy 101" post in the future. > No flames, please. > > Best regards to all, > John > [email protected] > > Clues in Census Records, 1850-1920 > > Experienced genealogical researchers use clues found in one record to find > other records about the same individual. The following describes some of > the clues found in census records. > > Date of birth > > The 1900 census (column 7) indicates the person's month and year of birth; > the 1850-1880 and 1910-1920 censuses indicate the person's age. The 1890 > census was destroyed by fire and only VERY SMALL "fragments" exist. > > The 1870 census (column 13) and 1880 census (column 7) indicate the month > in which the person was born, if born "within the year," that is between > June 1, 1869 and May 31, 1870 for the 1870 census, or June 1, 1879 and May > 31, 1880, for the 1880 census. The official census day was June 1 in both > 1870 and 1880, although the enumerator may have visited the household at a > later date. > > While the person's age is not an exact date of birth, it at least provides > a "ballpark" figure useful (1) for tracking the person from one census to > the next, especially if other people have the same name, and (2) for > locating the person in any existing vital records. > > Place of birth > > The 1850-1920 censuses indicate the person's state or country of birth, > which helps narrow the geographic scope of search for the specific town of > birth. > > Date of marriage > > The 1850 census (column 10), 1860 census (column 11), 1870 census (column > 14), and 1880 census (column 12) indicate whether the person had married > within the year. > > "Within the year" means during the year before the official census day, > that is, between June 1, 1849 and May 31, 1850, for the 1850 census; > between June 1, 1859 and May 31, 1860, for the 1860 census; between June 1, > 1869 and May 31, 1870, for the 1870 census; and between June 1, 1879 and > May 31, 1880, for the 1880 census. The official census day was June 1 in > each of these census years, although the enumerator may have visited the > household at a later date. > > The 1900 census (column 10) and 1910 census (column 9) indicate the number > of years of marriage for each married person. > > Number of children > > The 1900 census (column 11) and 1910 census (column 10) indicate how many > children were born to each woman. The 1900 census (column 12) and 1910 > census (column 11) indicate how many of those children were still living. > These clues can help determine whether the researcher has identified all > children in a given family, and whether any were deceased when either > census was taken. > > Immigration > > The 1900 census (column 16), 1910 census (column 15), and 1920 census > (column 13) each indicate the person's year of immigration to the United > States. This information should help in locating a ship passenger arrival > list. > > Naturalization. > > The 1870 census (column 19) has a check mark for "Male Citizens of the U.S. > of 21 years of age and upwards." If the person was a foreign-born citizen, > this means that he had become naturalized by 1870. > > The 1900 census (column 18), the 1910 census (column 16), and the 1920 > census (column 14) indicate the person's naturalization status. The answers > are "Al" for alien, "Pa" for "first papers," and "Na" for naturalized. > > The 1920 census (column 15) indicates the year in which the person was > naturalized. > > These clues may lead to naturalization records. > > Foreign-born parents > > The 1870 census (columns 11-12) have check marks if the person's parents > were "of foreign birth." > > The 1880 census (columns 25-26), 1900 census (columns 14-15), 1910 census > (columns 13-14), and 1920 census (columns 21 & 23), indicate the person's > parents' birthplaces. > > Service in Union or Confederate Army or Navy > > The 1910 census (column 30) indicates whether the person was a "survivor of > the Union or Confederate Army or Navy." The answers are "UA" for Union > Army, "UN" for Union Navy, "CA" for Confederate Army, and "CN" for > Confederate Navy. These clues lead to military service and pension records. > > [Note: columns 30-32 are often "overwritten" with numbers like 2-1-0-0 or > 6-9-0-0. These numbers are NOT the answers for columns 30-32, but were data > summaries used by Census Bureau tabulators in Washington, DC, to compile > statistical data.] > > Real property > > The 1850 census (column 8), 1860 census (column 8), and 1870 census (column > 8) indicate the value of real property (land) owned by each person. > > The 1900 census (column 25), 1910 census (column 26), and 1920 census > (column 7) indicate whether the person owned ("O") or rented ("R") the home > or farm. > > The 1900 census (column 26), 1910 census (column 27), and 1920 census > (column 8) indicate whether home and farm owners owned their property with > a mortgage ("M") or free of mortgage ("F"). > > These clues should lead researchers to the county recorder's office or > equivalent agency for deeds, mortgages, and property tax records. > > Economic data. > > The 1850 census (column 7), 1860 census (column 7), 1870 census (column 7), > and 1880 census (column 13) all indicate the person's occupation. If the > answer is "farmer," the researcher should look for information about the > farmer's land ownership, crops, and livestock in the agricultural census > schedules. If the person was a saw or grist miller, cheese maker, or other > "manufacturer," the researcher should check the manufacturing census > schedules. > > Agricultural census schedules exist for 1850-1880; manufacturing census > schedules exist for 1820 and 1850-1880. > > > > ==== HUNT Mailing List ==== > For answers to your mail list questions > visit the HUNTList FAQ page at > <http://members.aol.com/huntlist/faq.htm> END

As a relative "newbie" to genealogy I certainly appreciate any tips I can get :)) Thanks.... Carolyn Strong carolyn @ tampa

Dear John, Thanks for the Census 101 info. I'm a new researcher and it is very helpful. Connie Corbett-Whittier

Manuscript Collections (MC), #MC 1210 and #MC 1221, at the Univerisy of Arkansas, in the Special Collections, include documents concerning Nathan Strong, Jr., and several of his sons: Henry (1825-1897), Watson (1836-1903), and Wesley K. Strong (1838-1923). One of the items in the first manuscript collection is a family history written by Mrs. Miller Gibson Jones and Mrs. Mollie Pryor Strong, entitled: "Strong Family: Virginia... Tennessee... Alabama... Arkansas". The contents of these two manuscript collections are described in more detail on these two WWW pages: http://www.uark.edu/libinfo/speccoll/strongaid.html http://www.uark.edu/libinfo/speccoll/strongadaid.htm. In the past I have colloborated with Mrs. Jean Haygood Kennedy, 204 John Weythe Road, Williamsburg, Virginia 23185. She is a descendant and researcher of the Nathan Strong, Jr., family. In a packet of materials she sent to me in July, 1994, was a copy of the above family history: 45 typed pages, double spaced, not dated, with no addresses for the authors. The last sentence in the article suggested it may have been written in 1935. It is possible that the paper was written more recently, however. Mrs. Jean Haygood was also one of eight persons who contributed materials that were used to compile the update entitled "Nathan(iel) Strong, Jr., of Henry County, VA, and Clarke Co., AR" that appears in STRONG FAMILY HISTORIES, VOLUME V, Strong Family Association of America, (c) 1996, pages 419-430. Lyle A. Strong and Robert S. Strong were the SFAA Historians who compiled this volume. Please note that Nathan Strong, Jr., was NOT born in Henry Co., VA, and he never resided in that county. (And he never resided in Henrico County, VA, "on the James River", either.) This error appears to have been first published in the article by Mrs. Jones and Mrs. Strong, then repeated in a newspaper article about Nathan Strong, Jr., that was dated 30 NOV 1961. The author was Farar Newberry. I failed to record the name of the newspaper. The same error was continued still in the 1996 SFAA volume. The following is from my own research. Nathan Strong, Sr., was probably born in western Hanover County (St. Martin's Parish), Hanover County, VA, as he was apparently the youngest brother of John Strong, 3rd, as proved by their very close affiliations over several decades, first in Louisa County, VA, in the 1760s, then in Goochland County, VA, in the 1770s and 1780s. Nathan Strong, Sr., appeared to have been living on John Strong's land in Goochland County and subsequently purchased some of John Strong's land. In Goochland County, these two were also close neighbors of my ancestors, Mrs. Ann (Stanley) Strong and Mrs. Sarah (England) Tibbs, the latter the mother of Mary Tibbs (Mrs. Sherwood, 3rd) Strong. This would be the ancestry of Nathan Strong, Sr., and Nathan Strong, Jr. 1. John Strong of St. Peter's Parish, probably New Kent County, VA 2. John Strong, Jr., b. ca. 1698, St. Peter's Parish; d. by 1751, St. Martin's Parish, (western) Hanover Co., VA 3. (possibly) Nathan Strong, Sr., b. ca. 1744, VA, probably Hanover County; d. AL, 1823. 4. Nathan Strong, Jr., b. 1789, Goochland Co., VA, d. 1863, Clark Co., AR There is no definitive proof regarding the identity of the parents of Nathan Strong, Sr. Nathan Strong, Sr., was an apparent brother of Martin, William, John, and Sherwood Strong (1st) and thus a probable son of John Strong, Jr. In the early 1800s, Nathan Strong, Sr.'s sons began to migrate to Tennessee. His son, George Strong, possibly traveled to Tennessee with my ancestor, Sherwood Strong, 3rd, of Goochland County, as both were in what is now Middle Tennessee by around 1805 or 1806. George settled in the part of Rutherford County from which Bedford County was formed. He apparently resided in Bedford County until he relocated to Alabama around 1815 or 1816. George Strong was possibly joined in Bedford County by Nathan Strong, Jr. On the 1810 census, Nathan Strong, Jr., was probably the 26-44 year old male in the household of Nathan Strong, Sr., in Goochland Co., VA. Nathan Strong, Jr., appeared to be in Tennessee during the War of 1812, as he was commissioned as a Lieutenant. It has been reported he participated in the Creek and Seminole Wars. [I have not obtained his military records and am not aware of anyone else who has obtained a copy of his militarey records.] [There was another, different Nathan Strong commissioned as an officer in the Mississippi Territory. He was from the Mobile, AL, area.] Nathan Strong, Sr., and several of his sons, including Nathan Strong, Jr., received land grants in Madison County, Mississippi Territory, between AUG 1810 and DEC 1812, but there is no proof from tax lists that any of them arrived in Madison County, which soon became Madison County, Alabama, before about 1815 or 1816. In 1813 and 1815, only real estate taxes were assessed; no poll taxes were assessed. Also, legal records of this family do not begin in Madison County until about 1815 or 1816. Although Nathan Strong, Jr., received a grant of a section of land in Madison County, there is no proof he ever resided on that land, which he sold to a brother-in-law, Abraham Loving, husband of Rachel Strong Loving. This deed was dated JAN 1817 and probably signifies the relocation of Nathan Strong, Jr., to Lawrence County, AL, where he remained until about 1837 when he relocated to Arkansas, where his family resided first in Dallas Co. (1850 census), then later in Manchester Township, Clark County, where he died. It was claimed that he died one day before the Union Army arrived at his plantation. Nancy Looney Strong continued to live there until her death in JUN 1889. Children of Nathan Strong, Jr., and Nancy Looney, reported to have married in 1821 in Lawrence Co., AL, as listed in SFFA Volume V, page 419. 01. died in infancy 02. Anderson Strong, died in childhood 03. Maria Strong, 1824 AL - 1889 04. Henry Strong, b. 1825 or 1826, AL 05. Thomas Strong, b. 1828, AL - d. ca. 1837, AR 06. Felix Strong, b. 1830, AL - 1868, AR 07. Albert Strong, b. 1834, AL - d. 1908 08. Watson Strong, b. 1836, AL; lawyer, of Memphis, TN; d. 1903, TN. 09. Wesley Strong, b. 1838, AR - d. 1923 10. James Strong, b. 1841, AR - d. 1902 All the sons who attained adulthood, except Watson, became farmers in Arkansas. (c) 1998, Robert T. Strong, Jr. All rights reserved. May be reproduced for personal use only. Robert T. Strong, Jr. 119 Mystic Way Madison, Al 35757-8801

This is a response to those who were interested in NY research yesterday (the 25th). I took the liberty of forwarding the STRONG-L message to our(HUNT-L) resident NY expert. "The information above(in the message) is NOT accurate - except, perhaps, for the specific town of Oswego - which I have never researched (but which I seriously doubt) . NY is one of those states where you have to go to the Town Clerk/Registrar for early vitals - never to the County and absolutely never to the State Archives in Albany. Different towns/villages set up these offices during different years. I "generally" expect to find NY vitals at the town/village level from about 1848. They are fragmented for early periods - might be there for 1847-8 and missing for 1849-52 - then in relatively good shape for 1853-current. (this is what is available in Manhattan and several other cities/towns including some in upstate NY - all of which I have actually obtained early vitals from). Many start at the incorporation date for the town - that is why I have French's "Gazetteer of the State of NY" (1860) in my library - worth every cent I paid for it (too much). Also why I posted this book as one of my "look-up resources" on the Hunt www site - but get very few requests for it. If I were faced with this comment in Oswego (which was formed in 1818), I would just ask them where their earliest records are located and look myself. I would almost bet that they have vitals prior to 1881 on premise, and that the clerk did not know what he/she was talking about (very common). This has happened to me on at least 6 occasions - and two actually involved conversations with the City Registrar/Town Clerk!!<grin>. The advise that was given in the balance of the email that you forwarded was good, and the person furnishing it had at least some familiarity with NY vital record research. Another relatively unknown fact is that some very early NY Marriage records (etc.) are found in the early Libers that are primarily probate records. For example, the marriage record for Joseph Hunt and Bethia Ferguson is in Liber 5-6 of WILLS and this is from December 20, 1697........" [thanks to English Laws that were in effect at the time - the earliest Dutch also kept good records]. Interesting post - thanks for sending it - now you know much more than you ever wanted to know about NY Vital records <grin>. (and why many of our List members researching NY are relatively "lost" souls). My Best to you, John [email protected]" John is quite reliable and always available for NY questions. Sandy in Lubbock (Hannah descendant). [email protected] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

In response to vital records in New York - I have found that many of the records have been thrown away by city clerks, but retrieved by local historians. If you ask aound town, there is usually someone who has a dusty cabinet FULL of records, but it takes some detective work. Connie Corbett-Whittier

Dear Lindsay: Thank you for sharing your trip to the courthouse. Carla Davenport

Attn: PattFulton Upon my recent visit to the City Clerk's office in Oswego NY, I was informed that birth, death and marriage records FOR THE ENTIRE STATE were NOT AVAILABLE for dates prior to 1881. I do not know if this information was accurate - I haven't tried anywhere else for a date before that yet. I do know that Oswego - both City and County - records were not available THERE IN OSWEGO. This runs contrary to what I had expected. I was under the impression that records at the town level would be the most comprehensive. I still think you would be more likely to locate record of Ozias' death at that level than at the county or state level. The BEST thing I did in Oswego was walk into the city library and ask them if they had any books on local history or genealogy. They had a hand-typed volume which documented the graves in the Rural-Union Cemetery. This gave me names and dates for dozens of people I would not have gotten from the city clerk as well as some specific information which I used to get MORE from the city clerk. The city of Cortland, NY is practically on top of Homer. I would look in the phone book and contact the library in Cortland. I would also get on the internet and look for municipal sites for Cortland County and/or the city. The site for Owsego county provided me with names and addresses of all the town historians for towns within Oswego County! Hope this helps. Lindsey DiCosola [email protected] ============================================================== BECKWITH, CLARK, CLINE, FOX, HINCKLEY, PLACE, RICE, STRONG, TRIPP, WHITE _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello everyone, Below are a couple of STRONG names, with details, found in a recent "surf" of the Net. Barbara ------------------ Found at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/wggenweb/brazil/cemeteries/campo.txt ******************************* NORTH AMERICAN CEMETERY, Santa Barbara, Sao Paulo State, Brazil also known as Campo Cemetery Made available to The WorldGenWeb Project by Betty Antunes de Oliveira - [email protected] Sources This list now presented is a summary of the book: * Betty Antunes de Oliveira - North American Immigration to Brazil - Tombstone Records of the "Campo" Cemetery - Santa Barbara - Sao Paulo State - Brazil, particular edition. - Brasilia, Grafica do Senado Federal, 1978. - 68 p. - Ill. - 150 pictures (views, tombstones, chapel). Topographical map showing the position of the graves in the yard, about 430. * The book was microfilmed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Salt Lake City. Utah, U.S.A., 1981, under Latin America # 1.162.423. Purpose of this list * The purpose of the list bellow is to assist in finding immigrants that moved from the United States of America to Brazil, after the Civil War. The first group landed Rio de Janeiro on 1st January 1867. It is not known how many came and how many went back home! * The complete list of names reveals a total of about 430 graves, since July 13, 1868 to 1978, being the last, when the book was published. * But, this partial list (in alphabetical order, by surnames) includes the names of those immigrants, with their children, and also those who were born in Brazil, only until December 31, 1899. North American Cemetery known as Campo Cemetery * The Cemetery started in July 13, 1868, when Mrs. Beatrice E. Oliver died. The widower A.T. Oliver decided that she had to be buried in his own land. * At that time, the Brazilian law didn't permit any non-Roman-Catholic person to be buried in the official cemeteries. This situation remained by November 15th, 1889, when Brazil became a Republic. * The number of known graves could be larger if the lost Book of Burials had been located. No one knows how many have been buried there. About 70 graves aren't identified, but, by several sources, we have found out data for some of them, which names are separately in the end of the list below. Unfortunately, for others, marks no longer exist any more. * Some immigrants moved to another places nearby, or far away, so, left their beloved behind. Few were transferred from where they were buried. * It is a historical mark for both countries, United States of America and Brazil. The site is located at Santa Barbara (today Santa Barbara D'Oeste) Sao Paulo State, Brazil, in a place called Campo, in a sugar-cane plantation, about 12 kilometers from that city and also from the city of Americana (former Santa Barbara Station railroad). Remarks and Abbreviations * in "Remarks" of the List there are short and few extra information * sometimes the data of birth and death in the tombstone don't agree with the records * the brackets point the author's insertions * the abbreviations are: d. = daughter ; d-m-y = day, month & year; f. - father; m. = mother; s. = son; sp. = spouse STRONG Henry 08-09-1804 06-11-1878 f. of Mary Matilda Ellis Sarah Amanda ---------- ---------- d. of Henry Strong

Hi STRONG Cousins; I have been aware of the N. Americans who immigrated to Santa Barbara, San Paulo, Brazil since my childhood as I had childhood friends (in the 1950's) in Houston, TX with cousins who lived there. Their story was that their Confederate ancestors were very unhappy with the outcome of the Civil War so they moved to Brazil to be able live the lifestyle afforded them before the war. Growing up in the South I heard of other folk's ancestors who had done so for the same reasons but also because their homes/property/kin had been destroyed/killed in the War resulting in heartbreak so extreme that perhaps the only way to alleviate it was to move far away. (My gggg Grandparents David and Melissa WALTON age 40, were killed in GA during the War. It is rumored that some of my/their family immigrated to Santa Barbara as a result of this but I have been unable to verify their existance there in Brazil so far). Upon their arrival in Brazil, these people founded their own community designed largely after their communities at home (you will notice that most of them were from the South). By today's standards it could have perhaps been called "little North America" as they flew their own flag pledging allegiance to it. I have ancestors that fought on both sides of the war and I have elderly family members (both north and south) who still hold grudges as their grandfathers fought and died in this War. I feel very fortunate to have been born during these modern times as I cannot imagine the severe pain of families divided and fighting each other on N. American soil and I hope I never do! I too find STRONG, Henry (of MS) as being on this list and I thought you may interested in the websites <A HREF="http://scv.org/Camp1653/fam1.htm">fam1.htm at scv.org</A> <A HREF="http://scv.org/Camp1653/fam2.htm">fam2.htm at scv.org</A> Happy trails; Patti Waldo Swaim

I may be in error (as I am often) but I seem to recall that after the War for Independence a number of Loyalists fled to other countries, such as Canada (and perhaps Brazil), and a few went to the Spanish colony of Florida where they swore allegiance to the Catholic Church and to Spain. I know there were many Loyalists in the vicinity of Anson, Bladen and Cumberland Counties, NC (where several of my ancestral families then resided), where a large number of Scots had settled, and after Independence, the new State of NC treated these Loyalists very sternly, confiscating their lands and property. One Ralph McNair was expelled from NC,, for example, and sought shelter in other colonies, first in the North (maybe Pennsylvania) and later ending up in South Carolina. His subsequent made a request to the Governor of NC for a pardon and permission to return to NC but was refused. With respect to Brazil, I may be confusing these two wars. I do recall having seen references to Strongs fleeing to Brazil after a war, however, but I don't at the moment recall where I saw these references. Maybe I will find it in my notes later. Thanks to Barbara Pederson for her contribution about Strongs in Brazil. Bob Robert T. Strong, Jr. 119 Mystic Way Madison, Al 35757-8801

Dear Strong researchers: Does anyone know the identity of George Strong b. 1755 MA removed to Cayuga Co. NY by 1810 where he is enumerated with Thomas Strong as follows: George Strong 02002-11111-00 Thomas Strong 00001-00010-00 If you have even a clue to who these Strongs are please send me a note. Thank you, Carla Davenport

Would love to see this information. My mother was Janet Strong before marriage. Thanks, eloise alles