Hi Helen Godfrey! I received the map yesterday in the mail... Thank You! I posted it on my Lineages Directory today... but I have a question. Reviewing the research data provided by David Leahy, I note that Cloghchurnel Townland seems to figure in the picture somehow. I have looked for it on the map, but find only a townland entitled "Clogh"... Are they one and the same? Also, going back to the data, I noted that certain landlords, including re: Cartronamarkey..... Lt.Col Arthur G. Lewis Ballybrien................ Richard Greville Cartron.................... Richard Greville Robinstown............. Richard Greville Cloghchurnel.......... Hon. Capt. F. Maude, are involved... and that the Grevilles' are from Gloucestershire in England. Gloucester is one of the areas Martha Strong has found Strongs in England. I am wondering whether you have tried researching the estate records of these three landlord families to try to find any lease records, etc., relating to Strongs as tenants? From the Marriage Licence Bond Records I note that a William Strong m. Margaret Majore in 1706; Thomas Stronge m. Alice Pointain in 1707; Thomas Strong m. Katherine Haltan in 1713; and John Strong m. Mary St. John in 1715. These could all have been brothers (with Thomas marrying twice)... and the lease records MIGHT show some further relationships. The following is quoted from the "Understanding the Data Base" Chapter of my book, on line at my website: "17) The leases often ran for periods of 31 years or the life of the longest lived of three individuals named as tenants, whichever was less. Thus, it happened that a father and two of his sons, including the youngest, would be named as tenants. When looking for a record of a tenant lease, it is often smart to determine the date of emigration of an individual, calculate back 31 years, and search the Estate records for information on the lease then being let." Alternatively, one should also look for 21 year leases. See also: "Under the leaseholders, or directly under the landlords, were one or more "freeholders" or middlemen, who might hold their lands for terms such as "three lives or 31 years, whichever came first". Leases in general in Ireland at this time were of four main types: (1) Leases for three lives renewable for ever; (2) Leases for three lives which expired on the deathof the last life; (3) Leases for a period of years, e.g. 21 years, 31 years, 41 years, etc.; (4) Leases for three lives, or so many years, whichever was longer. 29" The latter discussion is at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/estates.html#Ely under "Rev. Lord Adam Loftis, Marquis of Ely". Compare the analysis found at the following URL: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/estates.html#Ardeelane "Cunningham makes no mention of Strong lessees in the Conolly Estate article. It is probable, however, they came into possession of some of the lands about 1695. Dale G. Strong found that one Will Strong leased "Ardellan" Townland from the Conolly Estate in 1718; and that William Strong had another lease of "Ardeelan" Townland in 1726. In 1727, William Strong owed "18L as tenant at Ballyshannon Manor...also...John Strong." Also, in Raphoe Wills 1684-1858" is found a reference to a will for Arthur Strong of "Ardeelane" in 1743. Finally, there is mention of Edward Strong and son at Ardeelan in 1774. 44 Analysis of the dates and events with reference to the likely length of the lease terms suggests the following sequence of events: <p> 1695-1726: 31 years, original lease to William Strong <p> 1726: likely renewal of the lease, probably for 31 years and/or the lives of William and his son Arthur. William probably died between 1727 and 1743. <p> 1726-1743: After 16 years, death of Arthur Strong; with subsequent re-letting of the townland property to his son or other relative, Edward Strong. <p> 1743-1774: 31 years lease term; re-letting of leasehold to Edward Strong and son. <p> 1774-1805: 31 years lease term; probably to Edward Strong and son. <p> 1805-1836: 31 year lease term. Emigrations thereafter to America. See: "The Descendants of John Strong (1770-1837) and Martha Watson (1772-1851) of Drumhome Parish, Co. Done- gal, Ireland." 45" The point in all of this is that research along the lines suggested above might show a link between the Strongs of Gloucestershire and the Strongs of Longford... and you MAY be able to establish a descendancy covering the entire period 1700 to the present! Hoping to hear further from you.... David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530
Hey, Dave, I have a Jenny Casteel married to a Samuel Strong...Is your Jane Casteel's father named Greenberry? Was your Samuel Strong 1st married to a Jane Pope and divorced before 1812? Did your Julia Ann Strong marry William Meredith Pope after his divorce from Lucinda Ulman? If so, how are you related to Julia Ann? She was my husband's 2nd great grandmother. Joanne Scobee Morgan [email protected] wrote: > > Hi > My gggg grandfather, Samuel Strong and his 2nd wife, Jane Casteel, moved to > Barren County abt. 1812 on Line Creek, which became MONROE CO. KY in 1820. > They lived there until 1844 then possibly moved to Missouri (not confiremed). > Samuel Strong had lived in Russell County, VA (now Scott County, VA) from 1795 > until 1811, when he moved to Kentucky. Samuel Strong possibly had the > following children, > > 1. JOHN STRONG 1794-1800 in Virginia. I have a land record for him in Monroe > co. Ky in 1826. 1830 he is in Jackson Co. TN with Joseph Josiah Strong. He > disappears after 1832 tax list > > 2. MARGARET STRONG > > 3. JOSEPH JOSIAH STRONG b. 1800 resided in Jackson County, (now Clay Co), > TN. > > 4. THOMAS H. STRONG > 5. WILLIAM STRONG > 6. SCOTT STRONG > > If you want more I'll be happy to copy a disk. > > Take care, > > Dave Strong > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > Address for online searchers of STRONG MAIL LIST ARCHIVES: > http://newsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages Cross Indexed: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9881 > > MAISER ARCHIVES (1996-1997): Messages not indexed: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/9853 > ==========================================================
[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > STRONG-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 1 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: strongs ["DBS &/or MD" <[email protected]>] > #2 STRONG, POPE, MANESS, CURTIS [[email protected]] > #3 JULIA ANN STRONG [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from STRONG-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: strongs > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:22:07 -0500 > From: "DBS &/or MD" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi, Tom Strong of Brisbane, Australia! > > I am delighted to hear from you! I do indeed remember our previous > correspondance with your father, Earl Strong of Toronto... the > correspondance revealed a fine mind and a good grasp of historical detail. > I just regret that our contact came with him so late in his life that he was > unable to help us more actively, as I am sure he had some past contact with > details that would have helped us today. I also note your reference to the > Herron connections.... I am descended from Mary Haron (also spelled Herron) > who married my 2 x great grandfather, George Strong, in Drumhome Parish, > Church of Ireland, County Donegal, in 1820; so we probably have another > connection as well! > > You would be most welcome to join the Rootsweb Strong-List, and the Strong > Genealogy Network. Please take a look at the following URL: > http://www.nhb.com/dbstrong/sgnhome.htm > > There you will find a brief discussion of the SGN and The Strong-List, > together with a link to instructions as to how to subscribe. There are no > fees and participation is totally voluntary. You used my Geocities email > address to contact me, so I know you have seen my website, and the Lineages > Directory, which already includes your "Drimhory Strongs". I will update > the entry to include you as a researcher and point of contact. We will look > forward to your participation and assistance! > > I am also copying this response to the Strong-List and a group of other > researchers also interested in the roots of our Irish Strongs.... including > Dale Strong and William L. "Bill" Strong who also corresponded with your > father, Earl Strong. They will, I am sure, be glad to welcome you to the > list as well. Unfortunately, we cannot offer easy answers, but we are all > looking for the clues that will link us as cousins! > > Regards, > David B. "Dave" Strong > Email: [email protected] > Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 > > ================================================= > To subscribe to the Strong Mail List in Mail Mode, > send a message to the following address: > [email protected] > and put > > subscribe > > in the body of the message, beginning Line 1, Column 1. > DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BODY OF THE > MESSAGE. BE SURE YOUR MESSAGE EDITOR IS NOT SET > TO ADD YOUR SIGNATURE AUTOMATICALLY. > > ==================================================== > > ********************************* > > -----Original Message----- > From: Strong Tom <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 5:50 AM > Subject: strongs > > >Dear David, > > In the past you corresponded with my father Earl Strong in > Toronto > >as did Dale Strong. With the recent death of my mother material came into > my > >hands about family history and genealogy. > > I am curious as to whether any of it has been updated. It refered to a > Hugh > >Alexander Strong 21/3/1830 of Drimhory with two cousins who migrated to > Canada > >in the early 1850's. I am aware that oral family history can be distorted > but > >my father always told me that it was Hugh plus a brother plus a cousin who > left > >Ireland. Theire was also a sister who married someone called Herron and > >migrated with him to Boston. I am sure that this was not wildly distorted > as > >my uncle Frank was in contact with a Boston dentist who was a descendant of > >this union. I believe that this was sometime in the late 1920's. > > In addition there was a reference to a theory that the Strongs of Donegal > >were the descendants of Scots fleeing a Scottish famine in the 1690's. Is > there > >any mor evidence on this. > > Is there a mailing list that I could be put on to receive further > research. > >Ican send you a credit card number or arrange for an oversea's cheque to > cover > >costs. I am not sure I could contribute to any historical research as I > seem > >to have inherited my mother's math-science brain rather than my father's > >history type. > > > > Yours sincerly, > > Tom Strong > >PS. I live about as far from Toronto as possible. The GOld Coast just > south of > >Brisbane in Queensland Australia > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: STRONG, POPE, MANESS, CURTIS > Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 22:44:33 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I'm searching for the wife of John Strong, b 1801 in KY or TN. He > married her abt 1820 and Julia Ann b 7/11/1818, Anis, b abt 1819 & > Marinda, b 1/23/1820 were 3 of their children. There were several other > children, but i have no birth dates to determine if she were there > mother or not. They are William, Scott, Henderson, Anderson, Arrena, > Samuel, Emily & James F. > This mother evidently died young, for John Strong remarried Jane Pope > about 1832. Some of these children are probably hers. > Marinda Strong married a Maness 1st, then John Louis (Jack) Parrish. > Scott married a Catherine ?, Julia Ann married William Meredith Pope in > Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY, Anis married ? Curtis and had a son, > Monroe Curtis. > Does anyone have any information on this line? > Joanne Scobee Morgan > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: JULIA ANN STRONG > Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:24:12 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I'm confused and hope someone on this list is also searching for the > same line as I am. > My mother-in-law passed away shortly before Thanksgiving, leaving all > her genealogy books to me. I haven't BEGUN to sift through them all, but > note that several times she gives the parents of Julia Ann Strong > different names! > JULIA ANN STRONG b July 11, 1818 married WILLIAM MEREDITH POPE on June > 1, 1850 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY. They had 4 children, of which, > 2 sons grew into adulthood. Julia died Dec. 19, 1876. > Who were her parents? Sometimes my mil says they were Samuel and Jane > Strong, who had immigrated to MO in thye 1840's from Monroe Co., KY., > and sometimes she says her father was John Strong, son of Samuel and > Jane. > Does anyone REALLY know? > Anxious to hear. > Joanne Scobee Morgan UNSUBSCRIBE
To Philip Strong in Australia: Hi Thanks for your most recent message.... I will try to interlineate some replies below: {:-) David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 *********** -----Original Message----- From: PD & LE Strong <[email protected]> To: DBS &/or MD <[email protected]> Cc: Irish Research Group and STRONG-List <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 1:08 AM Subject: Re: Strong Genealogy >This message was encoded using an unknown text type. The message was >encoded as follows: > >Format: enriched >Character set: us-ascii > >This message was automatically generated. > >Dear Dave, > >I am re-sending my earlier e-mail to you of Fri, 1st Jan, 1999 with all >the Cc's in place so that all the other recipients may change their >data if necessary where it relates to Robert Strong's birthplace and >the date of his marriage. > >Genealogy is hard enough without the researchers introducing errors! >My apologies again both to you and all the Cc's. > >Best regards, > >Philip Strong > >>>> > ><excerpt>Dear Dave, > >I was delighted to get your e-mail of Fri, 1st Jan, 1999. > >Many thanks for the information you provided. How does one find the >link between the Robert Strong who married Jane Johnston on 13 Feb 1810 >and my Robert Strong born in 1831? Do you have any suggestions? When >I started out in this I thought that all I would have to do is to get a >few birth certificates etc. Little did I know that my ancestors spent >their leisure in burning down court houses and their enclosed records! THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF RIGHT OFF WOULD BE TO TRY TO SEARCH THE METHODIST RECORDS TO TRACE THE REV. ROBERT STRONG FROM 1810 FORWARD IN TIME.... IF YOU CAN LOCATE HIS CIRCUIT "SEAT", PERHAPS YOU CAN CHASE SOME PARISH RECORDS DOWN.... WITH CONSEQUENT BIRTH RECORDS, ETC. SEE ALSO MY NOTE BELOW RE HAMILTON STRONG! > Since sending you my earlier e-mail of 3/12/1998 I have re-checked >all my sources and I now annotate in italics what I provided as well as >clarifying where in NZ Robert settled and when he may have arrived? > >I am a retired science teacher, if this helps you in assessing what >weighting to put on my information. Though you will find that on my >re-checking I found two errors. Perhaps I should put the accent on ><underline>Retired</underline> and not on science teacher! > >The following is a copy of an e-mail with the above mentioned >re-checked and annotated info with answers to some NZ questions which I >sent on 4/12/98 to to Angela McCarthy, Department of Modern History, >Trinity College, Dublin 2,Ireland E-mail: [email protected] >who I thought at the time was either you, or was responsible for your >database (you have now told me it is not your database!). WE SEEM TO HAVE A CONFUSION FACTOR GOING... FIRST, I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY CONTACT WITH ANGELA McCARTHY. SECOND, THE DATA BASE IS INDEED MINE. QUESTION: HOW DID YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH ANGELA McCARTHY, AND DID SHE REFER YOU TO THE DATABASE? > >Best regards, > >Philip Strong > ></excerpt><<<<<<<< ################################################################## (THE FOLLOWING DATA HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY PHILIP STRONG FROM HIS PERSONAL RESEARCH, WITH SOURCES NOTED): > >First Generation (information from family bible and various newspaper >clippings etc.) >--------------------------------------------- > >1. Robert STRONG. Born in 1831 (in North Ireland Ulster? ).<italic>The >year of birth is arrived at from</italic> Robert's <italic>age which he >gave in family censuses which Robert conducted as "Head of House" and >wrote in the family bible. The place is an inference only from the >place of birth (Belfast) of his son David in 1870 and the Sunday School >in Belfast his son Robert James attended on 28/11/1874</italic>. ><italic>The misplaced brackets in my earlier e-mail suggest in error >that North Ireland is more than a mere inference! > ></italic>On 24th June 1851 when Robert was 20, he first married Jane >ROBINSON. Jane died on 26 Mar 1861. <italic>Information written by >Robert in family bible</italic>.<italic> Note that when I got the >magnifying glass out and checked the marriage date again it was 24th >June 1851 and not 26/4/1851 as in my earlier e-mail stated. > ></italic>They had the following children: <italic>Information written >by Robert in family bible</italic>. > > 2 i. Agnes (21/5/1852-) > > 3 ii. Jane (23/9/1854-) > > 4 iii. Robert (3/1/1857 - 12/11/1861) > > 5 iv. David (24/4/1859 - 22/11/1861) > ><italic>What happened in 1861 when Robert lost his wife and 2yr and 4yr >old sons? Was there an epidemic? > ></italic>On 26 Apr 1862 when Robert was 31, he second married Jane >TAIN. <italic>Information written by Robert in family bible. >Information from Robert's censuses written in the family bible fix Jane >TAIN's birth year as 1841. > ></italic>They had the following children: <italic>Information written >by Robert in family bible</italic>. > > 6 i. Robert James (17/2/1863 - 22/8/1943) > ><italic>Note that information on Robert James' death date obtained from >newspaper clipping in family bible. > > </italic>7 ii. Hamilton (21/5/1864-) > THIS NAME IS QUITE INTERESTING. NOTE THAT REV. JOHN HAMILTON, OF ST. ERNAN'S, NEAR DONEGAL TOWN, CO. DONEGAL, WAS A REFORMING METHODIST PREACHER... HE WAS ALSO THE LANDLORD OF CERTAIN STRONGS IN THE AREA, AS WAS HIS BROTHER, EDWARD HAMILTON OF BROWN HALL. SEE THE FOLLOWING URL's: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/estates.html#Ernan and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/estates.html#Brown FOR SOME DISCUSSION OF HIM... AND NOTE THE AVAILABILITY OF A BOOK BY Rev. H.C. White, "Sixty Years' Experience as an Irish Landlord, Memoirs of John Hamilton, D.L., of St. Ernan's, Donegal", Digby, Long and Co., 18 Bouverie Street, Fleet Street, E.C., London (~1890), DISCUSSING VARIOUS ASPECTS OF HAMILTON'S LIFE. I HAVE WONDERED WHETHER WHITE'S NOTES OR THE HAMILTON RECORDS AND DIARY ENTRIES UPON WHICH WHITE'S BOOK WERE BASED ARE PRESERVED SOMEPLACE... WHICH MIGHT BE RELEVANT BECAUSE THEY MAY PROVIDE CLUES ABOUT OUR STRONGS WHICH WERE NOT OF INTEREST TO WHITE WHEN HE WROTE THE BOOK. NOTE: DALE G. STRONG OF THE IRISH RESEARCH GROUP HAS ACCESS TO THIS BOOK. NOTE ALSO, THERE IS DISCUSSION IN WHITE'S BOOK ABOUT THE FACT THAT JOHN HAMILTON ASSISTED NUMEROUS TENANTS IN EMIGRATING TO AMERICA AND PRESUMABLY ALSO AUSTRALIA AND NZ ... COULD THIS FACT RELATE TO THE NAME OF THIS CHILD ? OR COULD IT BE THAT HAMILTON WAS SIMPLY AN INSPIRATIONAL FIGURE FOR YOUR ROBERT STRONG? OR DO YOU HAVE SOME OTHER EXPLANATION FOR THE NAME??? > 8 iii. Sarah Ann (20/5/1866 -19/6/1868) > > 9 iv. Joseph (21/6/1868-) > > 10 v. David (4/8/1870-) > ><italic>David was my grandfather and his inscription in the bible >willing it to my father Robert George David gave that as his birthdate >and his place of birth as Belfast Ireland. Furthermore my father's >marriage certificate gives my grandfather's birthplace as Belfast >Ireland. > > </italic>11 vi. Mary (4/12/1872-) > > 12 vii. William Aberdare (4/2/1875 - 2/3/1947) > ><italic>Note that information on William Aberdare's death date obtained >from newspaper clipping in family bible. > > </italic>13 viii. John Taylor (17/2/1881-) > >Further information which fixes dates and localities for Robert are: > >An inscription in a small bible gives the information that on >22/11/1874, Robert's son Robert J. Strong was presented with a bible on >the occasion of his leaving the Falls Road Wesleyan Sunday School in >Belfast Ireland. In Robert's family bible is recorded family census >details which say that on 3/4/1881 Robert Lived at Wellington St. >Auckland, New Zealand and on 28/3/1886 Robert lived at Victoria Ave, >Eden Terrace, Auckland NZ. > ############################################################################ ## > >Now to answer your question... when did he arrive in New Zealand? I >can only say somewhere between the period that son David was born >Belfast on 4/8/1870 and son Robert James was presented with a bible on >the occasion of his leaving the Falls Road Wesleyan Sunday School in >Belfast Ireland on 22/11/1874 AND Robert's family bible recorded family >census details which say that on 3/4/1881 Robert lived at Wellington >St. Auckland, New Zealand. It is quite possible that the family >emigrated around 22/11/1874 since that date may not have been late >enough in the year for the Sunday School prize giving, rather it could >have been the date around which Robert James was leaving for New >Zealand. Then on the other hand Irish Sunday Schools may have had >early prize givings! > >Your next question.... where in NZ Robert settled is answered from the >above: In Robert's family bible is recorded family census details which >say that on 3/4/1881 Robert Lived at Wellington St. Auckland, New >Zealand and on 28/3/1886 Robert lived at Victoria Ave, Eden Terrace, >Auckland New Zealand. > >To confirm the New Zealand connection, you will see on the page of my >information which deals with the SECOND GENERATION Robert's children >died in the following localities: Robert James in Drury, New Zealand ><italic>(obtained from newspaper clipping in family bible).</italic> >My father said that my grandfather David emigrated from New Zealand ><italic>(personal knowledge)</italic>. David was buried in the >Northern Suburbs Crematorium, Sydney NSW Australia <italic>(personal >knowledge)</italic>. William Aberdare died in Auckland New Zealand ><italic>(obtained from newspaper clipping in family bible)</italic>. > >Can you help me further in my search? As you can see I have but merely >started. > >Do you have contacts I could try? Unfortunately science teachers were >not trained in historiography. I would certainly like some hints which >relate to the Strong family..... particularly.. are there details of >Robert in Ireland? > >Best regards, > >Philip Strong ></excerpt><<<<<<<< > ><excerpt>To PD & LE Strong, with copies to the Strong-List and the >Irish Research > >Group: > >Hi Folks! >Sorry to be delinquent in responding.... I was traveling, and after my > >return plunged straight into the holidays, so am just now getting back >to you! I am quite interested in your info. You indicate you did not >find any reference to your Robert Strong in my data base, by which I assume you >mean the Irish Database on my web site. However, one thing you mention in >the following message suggests a clue for further research. Your Robert >Strong was a Weslayan Methodist, located in Belfast, County Down. >Information available to me includes the fact that Weslayan Methodist preachers >were active in the area around Ballyshannon, Co. Donegal and adjoining Co. Fermanagh in the early 19th Century. And, of course, they traveled and preached all over Ireland. > >Records number 1994 and 456 of the Irish Strong Database refer to a >Robert Strong, who was a Weslayan Methodist preacher on the Enniskillen >circuit ride in Co. Fermanagh in 1810. This info comes from the Vestry >Records, Parchment Vestry Books, contained in the Public Record Office, Dublin. >The same Robert Strong probably was the one who married Jane Johnston of >Bonahawn Townland in the Church of Ireland Parish of Innishmacsaint, >Co.>Fermanagh, on 13 Feb 1810. (See LDS film #258753-2, at page 199). >Note, the Parish of Innishmacsaint lies both in Donegal and Fermanagh, near the >River Erne, draining lower Loch Erne. > >As you may be aware, the Weslayan Methodist movement originally was a >reform movement within the Anglican Church, which in Ireland is the Church of >Ireland. There are numerous Strongs to be found in the parish records >of Drumholm and Kilbarron and other adjoining Church of Ireland Parishes >in Donegal; also the name Robert occurs in certain Strongs of Carnhugh Townland, nearby. Some of the Strongs were involved in the Methodist movement and certain of them are known to have been Methodist at the time of their emigration to America. > >Hopefully this will give you some basis for further research. PLEASE >keep in close contact with us as you develop new info. I have a personal interest in the Strongs of this area and ANY info can be extremely helpful. > >I am copying this message to the Rootsweb Strong-List and to a group >of researchers whom I know to be particularly interested in this area of >Irish Research in the hope that some other clue(s) will appear. I look >forward to hearing further from you! > >Happy New Year! > >David B. "Dave" Strong >Email: [email protected] > >Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 > ></excerpt><<<<<<<< > ************************************** > Name : PD & LE Strong > > Email : [email protected] > Location: Blue Mountains > Australia > **************************************
Hi My gggg grandfather, Samuel Strong and his 2nd wife, Jane Casteel, moved to Barren County abt. 1812 on Line Creek, which became MONROE CO. KY in 1820. They lived there until 1844 then possibly moved to Missouri (not confiremed). Samuel Strong had lived in Russell County, VA (now Scott County, VA) from 1795 until 1811, when he moved to Kentucky. Samuel Strong possibly had the following children, 1. JOHN STRONG 1794-1800 in Virginia. I have a land record for him in Monroe co. Ky in 1826. 1830 he is in Jackson Co. TN with Joseph Josiah Strong. He disappears after 1832 tax list 2. MARGARET STRONG 3. JOSEPH JOSIAH STRONG b. 1800 resided in Jackson County, (now Clay Co), TN. 4. THOMAS H. STRONG 5. WILLIAM STRONG 6. SCOTT STRONG If you want more I'll be happy to copy a disk. Take care, Dave Strong
I'm confused and hope someone on this list is also searching for the same line as I am. My mother-in-law passed away shortly before Thanksgiving, leaving all her genealogy books to me. I haven't BEGUN to sift through them all, but note that several times she gives the parents of Julia Ann Strong different names! JULIA ANN STRONG b July 11, 1818 married WILLIAM MEREDITH POPE on June 1, 1850 in Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY. They had 4 children, of which, 2 sons grew into adulthood. Julia died Dec. 19, 1876. Who were her parents? Sometimes my mil says they were Samuel and Jane Strong, who had immigrated to MO in thye 1840's from Monroe Co., KY., and sometimes she says her father was John Strong, son of Samuel and Jane. Does anyone REALLY know? Anxious to hear. Joanne Scobee Morgan
I'm searching for the wife of John Strong, b 1801 in KY or TN. He married her abt 1820 and Julia Ann b 7/11/1818, Anis, b abt 1819 & Marinda, b 1/23/1820 were 3 of their children. There were several other children, but i have no birth dates to determine if she were there mother or not. They are William, Scott, Henderson, Anderson, Arrena, Samuel, Emily & James F. This mother evidently died young, for John Strong remarried Jane Pope about 1832. Some of these children are probably hers. Marinda Strong married a Maness 1st, then John Louis (Jack) Parrish. Scott married a Catherine ?, Julia Ann married William Meredith Pope in Crab Orchard, Lincoln Co., KY, Anis married ? Curtis and had a son, Monroe Curtis. Does anyone have any information on this line? Joanne Scobee Morgan
Hi, Tom Strong of Brisbane, Australia! I am delighted to hear from you! I do indeed remember our previous correspondance with your father, Earl Strong of Toronto... the correspondance revealed a fine mind and a good grasp of historical detail. I just regret that our contact came with him so late in his life that he was unable to help us more actively, as I am sure he had some past contact with details that would have helped us today. I also note your reference to the Herron connections.... I am descended from Mary Haron (also spelled Herron) who married my 2 x great grandfather, George Strong, in Drumhome Parish, Church of Ireland, County Donegal, in 1820; so we probably have another connection as well! You would be most welcome to join the Rootsweb Strong-List, and the Strong Genealogy Network. Please take a look at the following URL: http://www.nhb.com/dbstrong/sgnhome.htm There you will find a brief discussion of the SGN and The Strong-List, together with a link to instructions as to how to subscribe. There are no fees and participation is totally voluntary. You used my Geocities email address to contact me, so I know you have seen my website, and the Lineages Directory, which already includes your "Drimhory Strongs". I will update the entry to include you as a researcher and point of contact. We will look forward to your participation and assistance! I am also copying this response to the Strong-List and a group of other researchers also interested in the roots of our Irish Strongs.... including Dale Strong and William L. "Bill" Strong who also corresponded with your father, Earl Strong. They will, I am sure, be glad to welcome you to the list as well. Unfortunately, we cannot offer easy answers, but we are all looking for the clues that will link us as cousins! Regards, David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 ================================================= To subscribe to the Strong Mail List in Mail Mode, send a message to the following address: [email protected] and put subscribe in the body of the message, beginning Line 1, Column 1. DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE. BE SURE YOUR MESSAGE EDITOR IS NOT SET TO ADD YOUR SIGNATURE AUTOMATICALLY. ==================================================== ********************************* -----Original Message----- From: Strong Tom <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 5:50 AM Subject: strongs >Dear David, > In the past you corresponded with my father Earl Strong in Toronto >as did Dale Strong. With the recent death of my mother material came into my >hands about family history and genealogy. > I am curious as to whether any of it has been updated. It refered to a Hugh >Alexander Strong 21/3/1830 of Drimhory with two cousins who migrated to Canada >in the early 1850's. I am aware that oral family history can be distorted but >my father always told me that it was Hugh plus a brother plus a cousin who left >Ireland. Theire was also a sister who married someone called Herron and >migrated with him to Boston. I am sure that this was not wildly distorted as >my uncle Frank was in contact with a Boston dentist who was a descendant of >this union. I believe that this was sometime in the late 1920's. > In addition there was a reference to a theory that the Strongs of Donegal >were the descendants of Scots fleeing a Scottish famine in the 1690's. Is there >any mor evidence on this. > Is there a mailing list that I could be put on to receive further research. >Ican send you a credit card number or arrange for an oversea's cheque to cover >costs. I am not sure I could contribute to any historical research as I seem >to have inherited my mother's math-science brain rather than my father's >history type. > > Yours sincerly, > Tom Strong >PS. I live about as far from Toronto as possible. The GOld Coast just south of >Brisbane in Queensland Australia > > >
Am looking for anyone who might know about Elijah STRONG who married Catherine HERKIMER. According to the census: He (or his father) is living in Ulster county NY in 1790 and He is living in German Flats, Herkimer Co. NY in 1800 There is a story that he is a descendant of the Elder John Strong, but I've been unable to make the connection. Any ideas? -- Jonathan Cardozo [email protected] http://www.cardozo.org/genealogy
Found this page while surfing the other day. Only 25.00 to join for unlimited access for ALOT of information. If anyone already is a member please let me know... Kimberly http://www.civilwardata.com/genealgy.html
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David Thanks for your suggestion of a possible link. I have come across this name of Strangman/Strangeman-Hutchin/Hutchens before but I do not know where the link might be. It is definitely of Quaker origins. Just a reminder to all the Strong and Strang researchers - I would be interested in any references to Strangman that you might come across. Even today I found another official entry that had a "Strangman" spelled as a "Strongman". People doing transcribing and indexing are inexorably drawn to spelling my name Strangman as Strongman. It's almost as if someone is saying in their ear: "It can't be StrAngman, it must be StrOngman, change the entry". That's why my wife says to new acquaintances: "It's StrOngman spelt with an 'A' ! Cheers Denis Strangman Canberra Australia Mailto:[email protected] Looking for 19th Century immigrant goldminers? See URL for the - Avoca (Victoria) and District Historical Society: http://www.canberra.starway.net.au/~string/ADHSMain.htm ======================================================= At 09:57 AM 12/31/1998 -0500, DBS &/or MD wrote: >To Bill Veale, Denis Strangman, Deb Hunter, Natasha Moxon: > >The following is clipped and pasted from my Lineages Directory. Have you >"talked" to each other? Perhaps there is a link or some common clues you >may share? If possible, please post any correspondance on the Rootsweb >Strong-List. Thanks, and Good Luck! {:-) > >David B. "Dave" Strong >Email: [email protected] >Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/lineages.html > >(Note, the following is clipped from the HTML version of the Directory... >for a clearer copy, click on the site above and scroll down to the text just >above the Scottish Strongs): > ><tr> <TD> </TD><TD><b>Strangman or Strongman or Strangeman</b><br> >Reference: Rita Hineman Townsend (1925-), "Hutchins-Hutchens, >descendants of Strangeman Hutchins, born 1707, of the James River in >Virginia >and Surry (Yadkin) County, North Carolina. Baltimore: Gateway Press, >1979-1992.<br> >Researcher: Email:<a href="mailto: [email protected]">Denis >Strangman</a>, Canberra, Australia<br> [SNIP >>>> SNIP >>>>]
To PD & LE Strong, with copies to the Strong-List and the Irish Research Group: Hi Folks! Sorry to be delinquent in responding.... I was traveling, and after my return plunged straight into the holidays, so am just now getting back to you! I am quite interested in your info. You indicate you did not find any reference to your Robert Strong in my data base, by which I assume you mean the Irish Database on my web site. However, one thing you mention in the following message suggests a clue for further research. Your Robert Strong was a Weslayan Methodist, located in Belfast, County Down. Information available to me includes the fact that Weslayan Methodist preachers were active in the area around Ballyshannon, Co. Donegal and adjoining Co. Fermanagh in the early 19th Century. And, of course, they traveled and preached all over Ireland. Records number 1994 and 456 of the Irish Strong Database refer to a Robert Strong, who was a Weslayan Methodist preacher on the Enniskillen circuit ride in Co. Fermanagh in 1810. This info comes from the Vestry Records, Parchment Vestry Books, contained in the Public Record Office, Dublin. The same Robert Strong probably was the one who married Jane Johnston of Bonahawn Townland in the Church of Ireland Parish of Innishmacsaint, Co. Fermanagh, on 13 Feb 1810. (See LDS film #258753-2, at page 199). Note, the Parish of Innishmacsaint lies both in Donegal and Fermanagh, near the River Erne, draining lower Loch Erne. As you may be aware, the Weslayan Methodist movement originally was a reform movement within the Anglican Church, which in Ireland is the Church of Ireland. There are numerous Strongs to be found in the parish records of Drumholm and Kilbarron and other adjoining Church of Ireland Parishes in Donegal; also the name Robert occurs in certain Strongs of Carnhugh Townland, nearby. Some of the Strongs were involved in the Methodist movement and certain of them are known to have been Methodist at the time of their emigration to America. Hopefully this will give you some basis for further research. PLEASE keep in close contact with us as you develop new info. I have a personal interest in the Strongs of this area and ANY info can be extremely helpful. I am copying this message to the Rootsweb Strong-List and to a group of researchers whom I know to be particularly interested in this area of Irish Research in the hope that some other clue(s) will appear. I look forward to hearing further from you! Happy New Year! David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 *********************** -----Original Message----- From: PD & LE Strong <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:55 PM Subject: Strong Genealogy >Dear Dave, > > >The following information may help you? > >I cannot find any reference to Robert Strong born in 1831 in your database. > >Best regards, > >Philip Strong ################################################################## > >First Generation (information from family bible and various newspaper >clippings etc) >--------------------------------------------- > >1. Robert STRONG. Born in 1831 in North Ireland (Ulster? ). > > >On 26 Apr 1851 when Robert was 20, he first married Jane ROBINSON. Jane >died on 26 Mar 1861. > >They had the following children: > 2 i. Agnes (1852-) > 3 ii. Jane (1854-) > 4 iii. Robert (1857-1861) > 5 iv. David (1859-1861) > >On 26 Apr 1862 when Robert was 31, he second married Jane TAIN. > >They had the following children: > 6 i. Robert James (1863-1943) > 7 ii. Hamilton (1864-) > 8 iii. Sarah Ann (1866-1868) > 9 iv. Joseph (1868-) > 10 v. David (1870-) > 11 vi. Mary (1872-) > 12 vii. William Aberdare (1875-1947) > 13 viii. John Taylor (1881-) > >Further information which fixes dates and localities for Robert are: >An inscription in a small bible gives the information that on 22/11/1874, >Robert's son Robert J. Strong was presented with a bible on the occasion of >his leaving the Falls Road Wesleyan Sunday School in Belfast Ireland. In >Robert's family bible is recorded family census details which say that on >3/4/1881 Robert Lived at Wellington St. Auckland, New Zealand and on >28/3/1886 Robert lived at Victoria Ave, Eden Terrace, Auckland NZ. > > > >Second Generation >--------------------------------------------- > >2. Agnes STRONG. Born on 21 May 1852. > >3. Jane STRONG. Born on 23 Sep 1854. > >4. Robert STRONG. Born on 3 Jan 1857. Robert died on 12 Nov 1861; he was 4. > >5. David STRONG. Born on 24 Apr 1859. David died on 22 Nov 1861; he was 2. > >6. Robert James STRONG. Born on 17 Feb 1863. Robert James died in Drury New >Zealand on 22 Aug 1943; he was 80. Buried in Drury Presbyterian Cemetery. > >Presented Bible on occasion of leaving Falls Rd. Wesleyan Sunday School >Belfast North Ireland on 22/11/1874. > >This narrows down the time of emigration to New Zealand? > >Robert James married Jane UNNAMED. > >They had the following children: > 14 i. William > 15 ii. John > 16 iii. A..? > >7. Hamilton STRONG. Born on 21 May 1864. > >8. Sarah Ann STRONG. Born on 20 May 1866. Sarah Ann died on 19 Jun 1868; >she was 2. > >9. Joseph STRONG. Born on 21 Jun 1868. > >10. David STRONG. Born on 4 Aug 1870 in Belfast, Ireland. Buried in >Northern Suburbs Crematorium NSW Australia. Occupation: Store Supervisor, >David Jones. Religion: Church of England? > >On 8 Feb 1896 when David was 25, he married Minnie WEDEMEYER, in >Congregational Manse Pyrmont NSW Australia. Born on 27 Jun 1871 in Gayndah, >Qld Australia. > >They had the following children: > 17 i. Robert George David (1896-1980) > 18 ii. Edward J. (1901-) > >11. Mary STRONG. Born on 4 Nov 1872. > >12. William Aberdare STRONG. Born on 4 Feb 1875. William Aberdare died in >Auckland New Zealand on 2 Mar 1947; he was 72. Buried in Papakura Cemetery >Auckland New Zealand. > >William Aberdare married Margaret LANE?. > >13. John Taylor STRONG. Born on 17 Feb 1881. > > > >Third Generation >--------------------------------------------- > >14. William STRONG. > >Lived in Drury New Zealand. > >15. John STRONG. > >Lived in Auckland New Zealand. > >16. A.? STRONG. > >Lived in Auckland New Zealand. > >17. Rev. Robert George David STRONG. Born on 18 Dec 1896 in Wooloomooloo, >NSW Australia. Robert George David died in Calvary Hospital, Kogarah >Australia on 6 Oct 1980; he was 83. Buried on 9 Oct 1980 in Woronora >Crematorium Australia. Niche 96/Panel"P" Palm Court. Occupation: Minister >of Religion. Education: Licentiate of Theology at Moore College NSW >Australia. Religion: Church of England. > >On 28 Mar 1925 when Robert George David was 28, he married Alma Maud >PATFIELD, daughter of Ernest Montague PATFIELD (1876-?1952) & Alice Maud >Rose SOPER (1878-1916), in St. Mary's Waverley C of E NSW Australia. Born >on 26 Mar 1901 in Paterson Australia. Alma Maud died in Penrith, Henry >Fulton Nursing Home on 30 Apr 1988; she was 87. Buried in Woronora >Crematorium. Niche 97/Panel"P" Palm Court. Cremated on 4 May 1988 in >Pinegrove Eastern Creek Crematorium. Occupation: Home Duties. Education: >Secondary, Pupil Teacher at Paterson. > >Alma was an organist at St. Paul's C of E at Paterson NSW Australia before >she married. > >They had one child: > 19 i. Philip David (1937-) > >18. Edward J. STRONG. Born on 9 Oct 1901. > >Edward J. married Ruby CALLAGHAN. > >They had the following children: > 20 i. David > 21 ii. Barry > > > >Fourth Generation >--------------------------------------------- > >19. Philip David STRONG. Born on 16 Aug 1937 in Paddington NSW Australia. >Occupation: School Teacher and Administrator (Retired). Education: North >Sydney BH, Uni of Sydney, Sydney Teachers College. Religion: Church of >England. > >On 28 Jan 1959 when Philip David was 21, he married Lynette Ewart FOSTER, >daughter of Eric George FOSTER (1910-1980) & Marjorie Mary EWART >(1915-1995). Born on 6 May 1940 in Randwick NSW Australia. Occupation: >Office Manager (Retired). Education: St. George GH, Miss Hales' Business >College. > >They had the following children: > 22 i. Deborah Anne (1959-) > 23 ii. Andrew (1960-) > 24 iii. Melinda Joy (1962-) > >20. David STRONG. > >21. Barry STRONG. > > > >Fifth Generation >--------------------------------------------- > >22. Deborah Anne STRONG. Born on 2 Sep 1959 in Paddington NSW. Occupation: >Teacher. Education: University of Queensland Australia, B Mus (Hons). > >On 5 May 1991 when Deborah Anne was 31, she married Brett Thomas EAGLEN, in >Townsville Qld. Born on 14 Jul 1959. Occupation: Dentist. Education: >University of Queensland, Degree in Dentistry. > >23. Andrew STRONG. Born on 5 Dec 1960 in Coledale NSW Australia.. >Occupation: Registered Nurse. Education: Grafton HS, Syd. Con of Music, >Sydney. Uni, Bankstown Hosp. Religion: C of E. > >On 7 Apr 1984 when Andrew was 23, he married Janette Louise CONSTABLE, >daughter of Peter Frederick CONSTABLE (1936-) & Louise Christina STANLEY >(1939-), in Winmalee. Born on 6 Nov 1962. Occupation: Housewife. Education: >Secondary. > >They had the following children: > 25 i. Meaghan Emily (1985-) > 26 ii. Alison Louise (1989-) > 27 iii. Claire Elizabeth (1989-) > >24. Melinda Joy BURNS. Born on 13 Oct 1962 in Coledale NSW Australia. >Occupation: Registered Nurse. Religion: Church of England. Education: >Grafton HS, Springwood HS, Blacktown Hospital Australia. > >On 4 Jul 1985 when Melinda Joy was 22, she married Gary Rex BURNS, in >Penrith. Born on 17 Apr 1953. Occupation: Registered Nurse. > >They had the following children: > 28 i. Eric David (1985-) > 29 ii. Daniel James (1987-) > 30 iii. Michael Christopher (1988-) > > > >Sixth Generation >--------------------------------------------- > >25. Meaghan Emily STRONG. Born on 27 Sep 1985. Occupation: School Student. >Education: High School. Religion: Bahai. > >26. Alison Louise STRONG. Born on 26 Jul 1989. Occupation: School Student. >Religion: Bahai. > >27. Claire Elizabeth STRONG. Born on 26 Jul 1989. Occupation: School >Student. Religion: Bahai. > >28. Eric David BURNS. Born on 29 Oct 1985. Occupation: School Student. >Religion: Church of England. > >29. Daniel James BURNS. Born on 21 Jan 1987. Occupation: School Student. >Religion: Church of England. > >30. Michael Christopher BURNS. Born on 3 Aug 1988. Occupation: School >Student. Education: Primary. Religion: Church of England. > > > > >Index >--------------------------------------------- > >?? > Jane spouse of 6 >BURNS > Daniel James 29 > Eric David 28 > Gary Rex spouse of 24 > Melinda Joy 24 > Michael Christopher 30 >CALLAGHAN > Ruby spouse of 18 >CONSTABLE > Janette Louise spouse of 23 >EAGLEN > Brett Thomas spouse of 22 >FOSTER > Lynette Ewart spouse of 19 >LANE? > Margaret spouse of 12 >PATFIELD > Alma Maud spouse of 17 >ROBINSON > Jane spouse of 1 >STRONG > A..? 16 > Agnes 2 > Alison Louise 26 > Andrew 23 > Barry 21 > Claire Elizabeth 27 > David 20 > David 5 > David 10 > Deborah Anne 22 > Edward J. 18 > Hamilton 7 > Jane 3 > John 15 > John Taylor 13 > Joseph 9 > Mary 11 > Meaghan Emily 25 > Philip David 19 > Robert 4 > Robert 1 > Rev. Robert George David 17 > Robert James 6 > Sarah Ann 8 > William 14 > William Aberdare 12 >TAIN > Jane spouse of 1 >WEDEMEYER > Minnie spouse of 10 > ************************************** Above info provided by: Name : PD & LE Strong Email : [email protected] Location: Blue Mountains Australia **************************************
To Bill Veale, Denis Strangman, Deb Hunter, Natasha Moxon: The following is clipped and pasted from my Lineages Directory. Have you "talked" to each other? Perhaps there is a link or some common clues you may share? If possible, please post any correspondance on the Rootsweb Strong-List. Thanks, and Good Luck! {:-) David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/lineages.html (Note, the following is clipped from the HTML version of the Directory... for a clearer copy, click on the site above and scroll down to the text just above the Scottish Strongs): <tr> <TD> </TD><TD><b>Strangman or Strongman or Strangeman</b><br> Reference: Rita Hineman Townsend (1925-), "Hutchins-Hutchens, descendants of Strangeman Hutchins, born 1707, of the James River in Virginia and Surry (Yadkin) County, North Carolina. Baltimore: Gateway Press, 1979-1992.<br> Researcher: Email:<a href="mailto: [email protected]">Denis Strangman</a>, Canberra, Australia<br> Website: <a href="http://www.canberra.starway.net.au/~string/Lamplough.html">The Lamplough Name Index</a>; <br> Note: By implication, there is an intermarriage between the Hutchens family and a Strangeman family.... probably in England. </TD></tr> <tr> <TD> </TD><TD> <b>Strangeways of Alne and Melberrie Sampford: (York > Dorset> Somerset (two lions)</b> <br>Reference: Extraneus, ((c) 1986, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1997 by John R. Mayer); Vol. I, Book IV <br> Researcher:<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/jrmmem.html">John R. Mayer Memorial Web Page</a><br> Anecdote: <a href="http://www.wdstrong.com/strong/strong11.htm">Major Strangeways (1610-1668)</a>; remember to use your browser's "back" function to return here. </TD></tr> <tr> <TD> </TD><TD> <b>Henry STRANGEWAY</b>, born around 1820, perhaps in Dublin. Henry came to US and settled in or near Valparaiso, Porter County, Indiana. He reared the sons of his sister Mary (?) STRANGEWAY SCOTT and her husband Henry SCOTT in Indiana. Henry and Mary Scott died in Ireland between 1862 and 1871. Henry STRANGEWAY died in Indiana in December, 1897.<br> Researcher: Email:<a href="mailto: [email protected]">Deb Hunter</a></TD></tr> <tr> <TD> </TD><TD> <b>Strongman of England: George Strongman, emigrated from England to PEI, Canada</b> Researcher, Email: <a href="mailto: [email protected]"> Natasha Moxon</a> </TD></tr> <tr> <TD> </TD><TD> <b>Strongman of Cornwall, England</b><br> Phillip Strongman,b.~1781 in St. Columb (probably Major), Cornwall, England m. Susanna Yates ><br> John Strongman, b. 10 Nov.1815 in St. Ervan, Cornwall, m. Jane Tollick ><br> Phillip Strongman, b. 19 May 1839 in St. Ervan, Cornwall, m. Ellen Blacklar ><br> Ellen Ann Strongman, b. 3 May 1883 in St. Mewan, Trewoon parish, Cornwall ><br> Sarah Beatrice Strongman b. September 30, 1903 in Trelavour, St. Dennis parish, Cornwall m. ? Veale ><br> William Frederick Veale<br> Researcher: Email: <a href="mailto: [email protected]"> Bill Veale</a>, Taunton, Somerset, England <br> </TD></tr> ********************************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: william frederick veale <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 11:09 AM Subject: By way of introduction >william frederick veale wrote: >> >> I am new to this list and set out below my ancestors as far as they are >> known to me. >> My mother was Sarah Beatrice Srtrongman who was born on September 30 >> 1903 who was born in Trelavour, St. Dennis parish, Cornwall. >> She was the daughter of Ellen Ann Strongman who was born May 3 1883 in >> St. Mewan, Trewoon parish, Cornwall. >> >> Ellen Ann was the daughter of Phillip Strongman and Ellen Blacklar. >> Phillip was born in St. Ervan, Cornwall on 19 May 1839. >> >> Phillip was the son of John Strongman and Jane Tollick. John was born >> in St. Ervan, Cornwall on November 10 1815. >> >> John was the son of Phillip Strongman and Susanna Yates. He was born >> about 1781 in St. Columb (probably Major), Cornwall. >> >> Can anyone identify the actual date of birth of John and who is parents >> were and whether there were any siblings. >> >> Thankyou >> -- >> Bill Veale, Taunton, Somerset. > > > >==== STRONG Mailing List ====
I received this on another list and thought it was appropriate "This was sent from the listowner of the Stark Co, OH list and I thought it was worth passing along." > >For you who are veterans of email lists, this might be old >information. But, for those of you who haven't been a >Subscriber during previous holidays, let me give you a hint at >what is about to happen. > >Starting very soon since Santa, among others, has delivered >new computers, internet service, and genealogy gifts >(software) to a host of new rooters! We will be having an influx >of NEW subscribers to all the lists. > >This is GOOD! But while you will see new cousins, friends, >and contacts coming on-line, joining email lists, posting >surnames to databases, they will be asking all those >questions you have seen posted over and over again. >Unfortunate as it may be, new users mean we have to reinvent >the wheel all over again! *Grin* > >Please welcome the "newbies" to our lists, have PATIENCE >with them, help them and hopefully send them in the right >direction. For a month or so (perhaps til the end of January) it >will be helpful if we can refrain from using a lot of initials and >abbreviations in our responses. For example, when >discussing the FHC, lets all take a couple of seconds to type >"Family History Center," and give an explanation of who, what, >where, when. Please don't assume that EVERYONE knows >what it is, or has one near them. > >I can't stress enough how important your patience and help is >for the next month or two. Mistakes will be made, (like >posting a message that is blank, or no subject line, or leaving >entire digests in replies) and questions will be asked like >"What is the FHC, what is the SSDI, what is, can you explain, >where do I find, etc...Remember that these were once OUR >errors and OUR questions. We were all new once, and many >current subscribers are still learning, so let's continue the >spirit of cooperation throughout the year. > >I feel certain that our list will not have rudeness or flip answers > If you have a problem with an individual, please keep it OFF >the list (either email the person privately, or contact me). This >list is about helping each other. Let's be specific and clear in >our responses to folks, and give a little extra in explanations. > >Also keep in mind that new subscribers may know nothing >about computers, the internet, and genealogy, resulting in >many extremely inexperienced researchers. I hope we do not >have questions regarding computers, software, etc, but if one >does pop up, please respond to these questions off list if at >all possible. > >REMEMBER these new researchers may have file cabinets >full of information regarding YOUR own family tree, so let's be >as cordial, helpful and informative as we can be! You might >also re-post your family lines towards the end of January for all >of our "newbies" to see......just in case they connect. >Good Luck!!!!!!!!! > >Clare L. Herrick http://members.xoom.com/ClareH >ICQ#192957 http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala > http://www.rootsweb.com/~msholmes > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslownde >
Hi Everyone! Thought I would pass this along from one of my personal "cousins"! {:-) Happy New Year! David B. "Dave" Strong Email: [email protected] Website, "Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain & Ireland" http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530 ************ -----Original Message----- From: Len Gibson <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 9:41 AM Subject: Fw: Genealogy supplies A belated Merry Christmas to all.....and a very Happy New Year! Jean GENEALOGY SUPPLIES In Salt Lake City, Utah everyone is into researching their family tree. Even the big department stores sell genealogy supplies. A newcomer to Salt Lake City, and a non-researcher, got a job as a clerk at one of the big department stores. She received her introduction to genealogy one day when a customer came into the store and asked " Where do I find the Family Group Sheets?" The new clerk, with a shocked look on her face, answered, " Family Group Sheets? All we carry are the King, Queen, double and twin size sheets!
Russell: Maybe you could help me UNsubscribe, which I've attempted unsuccessfully to do several times now?? [email protected] Russell Laird wrote: > Rene, > > I've forwarded your message to the list. It didn't make it the > first time because the list is closed now, meaning you must be > subscribed to the list in order to post. All Rootsweb lists are > closed now. Contact me if you need any assistance in subscribing. > > Russell Laird > List co-moderator > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:41:09 -0800 (PST) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: {not a subscriber} Strong > > hello! I'm researching my STRONG family branch! So far I have very little to > go on, as it seems my particular branch was either very boring or very > private! > My earliest STRONG was John STRONG b 1825 in NY > John Strong m Olive (possibly CATHERWOOD?) b 1836 also NY. 6 children born > 1 John Vincent STRONG (b 1850, NY) > 2 Melissa (b1854,NY) > 3 James ( b1856, NY) > 4 Adelbert (b1858,WISC) > 5 Charles (b 1863, WISC) > 6 Walter (b 1864, WISC) > JOHN VINCENT m Ellen MULLEN (b1853, MASS). 7 children born to them > 1 Charles (b 1873) > 2 John (b 1876) > 3 Lydia (b1878) > 4 Lee (b 1880) > 5 Rhoda Grace (1882) > 6 Cora (b1884) > 7 Arthur Robert (b 1888, Brownsville, MIN., d 1950 Rockford ILL) > *******the info continues & I would be delighted to share the rest of it! I'm > in hopes any of the names above will strike a chord with someone! IF indeed > ANYONE has any additional information on my STRONG branch, I would be very > appreciative! Please, if you would be kind enough, let me know if any of these > names are familiar > to you. Thank you so much for your time & help. > Most sincerely, > Rene! aka [email protected] > > ==== STRONG Mailing List ==== > ======================================================== > RESEARCHING STRONG(E) AND STRANG(E) > IN GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7530/ > > Database and manuscript. See especially Chap. 13 > of manuscript, entitled "Lineages". > ==========================================================
Rene, I've forwarded your message to the list. It didn't make it the first time because the list is closed now, meaning you must be subscribed to the list in order to post. All Rootsweb lists are closed now. Contact me if you need any assistance in subscribing. Russell Laird List co-moderator ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Strong hello! I'm researching my STRONG family branch! So far I have very little to go on, as it seems my particular branch was either very boring or very private! My earliest STRONG was John STRONG b 1825 in NY John Strong m Olive (possibly CATHERWOOD?) b 1836 also NY. 6 children born 1 John Vincent STRONG (b 1850, NY) 2 Melissa (b1854,NY) 3 James ( b1856, NY) 4 Adelbert (b1858,WISC) 5 Charles (b 1863, WISC) 6 Walter (b 1864, WISC) JOHN VINCENT m Ellen MULLEN (b1853, MASS). 7 children born to them 1 Charles (b 1873) 2 John (b 1876) 3 Lydia (b1878) 4 Lee (b 1880) 5 Rhoda Grace (1882) 6 Cora (b1884) 7 Arthur Robert (b 1888, Brownsville, MIN., d 1950 Rockford ILL) *******the info continues & I would be delighted to share the rest of it! I'm in hopes any of the names above will strike a chord with someone! IF indeed ANYONE has any additional information on my STRONG branch, I would be very appreciative! Please, if you would be kind enough, let me know if any of these names are familiar to you. Thank you so much for your time & help. Most sincerely, Rene! aka [email protected]
Hi Strong Researchers; I am trying to trace back the Strong Line that starts with Arthur Wellington Strong who was (I believe) born in Glens Falls, Warren Co. N.Y. 11 April 1904, died Aug 1979 Jeffersonville, N.Y. and married 1937 to Dorothy Irene Eells. Here is what I have; 1920 Census Glens Falls, Warren Co. NY 28/146/188 Strong, Agnes head 40 divorced born NY father born NY mother born NY Wellington son 16 Marion daughter 14 Farlin, Lottie mother 60 Vanderwarker, Madelene 22 lodger steno auto chain factory >From the above and with data from the Glens Falls City Directory it would appear the Arthur Wellington Strong who I am tracking was the son of Arthur W. Strong and Agnes Farlin, born NY In turn Arthur W. Strong was the son of Eugene and Caroline (??) Strong and his wife Agnes Farlin, born NY was the dau. of Mr. and Lottie (???) Farlin both born NY. Does the above ring any bell with anyone? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you John
Merry Christmas to all and may you and yours experience peace, happiness and a bit of laughter in 1999. Enjoy searching and researching your 'strong' connection(s)! Judy Kunz