Hi Ginger, Concerning Johan Jacob STRAUB, it was customery for the German families before about 1800 to use a name like Johan before the second name that the person would be known by. With the addition of Andrew to the family, I now have 15 children for Jacob and 'Framey'. Do you have a birth date for Andrew? I'm wondering why I had Frances as 'Framey's name. Do you know her second name? If Daniel b. 1805 married Anna Haines in 1826, would Mary Shetterly have been his second wife? Garry