Thanks Shirley, The other Benjamin b. 1802 is my GreatgreatGrandfather. This is the Benjamin that Diana and I believe is the brother of her Andrew. Thanks for the info on the other one. It will help me when searching to determine who is who. You can check out my Straub site for my Benjamin and family <A HREF="http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/o/l/Nancy-Holben-ca/index.html">MY STRAUB HOME PAGE</A> Nancy