Shirley Morton wrote: > > Garry, Thanks for the information. I will add that to my folder. I have > another question . This is about Andrew Straub. I just read a message that > Jim Burnell had put on RootsWeb about the will you found for Andrew. This was the will of Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/AndrewStraub-EvaMariaWalter.htm http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/CourtRecords/Will-AndrewStraub1748-1806.htm This Andrew's will shows he had extensive real estate holdings -- and not just in PA. But he died in 1806 and his wife was not Barbara, so he is obviously not the Andrew whose deeds you were reviewing. > Two > years ago, I had done some extensive research on Andrew, founder of > Freeburg, Snyder, PA. While visiting the county offices in Centre, Mifflin, > Perry, Juniata, Union, Nothumberland and Cumberland, I found that Andrew and > his wife, Barbara, had bought and sold many parcels of land from 1809 to > 1847. The person you have been studying is Andrew STRAUB III (1788- ), son of Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/FGS/Straub/AndrewStraubIII-Barbara_.htm Andrew III came of age and into his inheritance in 1809, which explains why those transactions started in 1809. Andrew III was in Milton the 1810 and 1820 censuses. > Andrew had sold many in the years before 1809. In Centre County alone, > there were over 60 parcels sold. I checked on Andrew's signatures and they > all match. Barbara just made her mark. I made copies of some of the deed > transactions, but there were just too many to make copies of all of them. I > did copy the reference numbers on most of the ones in Centre County. But I > ran out of time to do more. According to George Franklin Dunkelberger in The > Story of Snyder County, page 134, he states that Andrew died while living in > the old stone house on Paul Kuster's farm which is a few miles west of > Selinsgrove in Penn Township. My question to you is: where did you find > Andrew's will? The will, as mentioned above, is that of the founder of Milton, not the founder of Freeburg. > Is his signature a > match with the deed for the one on Freeburg lots > which he donated? Neither the man making the real estate transactions, nor the man whose will has been referred to, is the founder of Freeburg. Secondary sources say the founder of Freeburg died a pauper in 1826, so he almost certainly did not leave a will. Nor was he around to be dealing in real estate in 1847. > I have not done much research in the last year because of health problems. > But my health is much better now. Shiley Straub Morton I'm sorry to hear you have been ill, but much relieved to hear you are better. You are such a storehouse of STRAUB knowledge, your participation on the list has always been greatly valued. And in this instance, I would be greatly appreciative if you could abstract those deeds. Or send the photocopies to me, so I can abstract them. I'm particularly curious to know where this Andrew was "of" when he sold parcels. I loose track of him after the 1810 census, but your research clearly shows he was alive until at least 1847 -- and if only he had lived to be enumerated in the 1850 Census! Surely, a man as prosperous as this one -- Andrew III, s/o the found of Milton -- left a will. I would LOVE to know who his children were! Shirley, do your deeds give any clue where Andrew III was living in 1847? Diana

Diana, I don't see how the deeds that I have are from anyone other than Andrew who bought land from his father, Peter STROUP on 15 Jun 1792, sold to Peter Fries on 29 April 1796,sold land to John STRAUB on15 Nov 1816, sold two lots from the Heilbourn to John Raush for building the town of Freeburg, sold land to John Raush for eight pounds on 30 April 1803 and hundreds of other transactions over more than 50 years. His signature is the same on all of them. On many deeds, after 1803, Barbara 's mark was also on the deeds. I may have missed some before 1803. I would be pleased to share any of this information with the Straub researchers. I have the copies of the deeds from the various county courthouses. How would you like me to share this information? Oh, yes, in answer to your question, the latest deed that I found was sold in Centre County. It did say Andrew of Penn Township. In Dunkelberger's book , he said that Andrew died in Penn Township. Shirley STRAUB Morton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:01 PM Subject: [STRAUB-L] Andrew STRAUBs > Shirley Morton wrote: > > > > Garry, Thanks for the information. I will add that to my folder. I have > > another question . This is about Andrew Straub. I just read a message that > > Jim Burnell had put on RootsWeb about the will you found for Andrew. > > This was the will of Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/AndrewStraub-EvaMariaWalter.htm > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/CourtRecords/Will-AndrewStraub1748-1806 .htm > > This Andrew's will shows he had extensive real estate holdings -- and not > just in PA. But he died in 1806 and his wife was not Barbara, so he is > obviously not the Andrew whose deeds you were reviewing. > > > Two > > years ago, I had done some extensive research on Andrew, founder of > > Freeburg, Snyder, PA. While visiting the county offices in Centre, Mifflin, > > Perry, Juniata, Union, Nothumberland and Cumberland, I found that Andrew and > > his wife, Barbara, had bought and sold many parcels of land from 1809 to > > 1847. > > The person you have been studying is Andrew STRAUB III (1788- ), son of > Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/FGS/Straub/AndrewStraubIII-Barbara_.htm > > Andrew III came of age and into his inheritance in 1809, which explains why > those transactions started in 1809. Andrew III was in Milton the 1810 and > 1820 censuses. > > > Andrew had sold many in the years before 1809. In Centre County alone, > > there were over 60 parcels sold. I checked on Andrew's signatures and they > > all match. Barbara just made her mark. I made copies of some of the deed > > transactions, but there were just too many to make copies of all of them. I > > did copy the reference numbers on most of the ones in Centre County. But I > > ran out of time to do more. According to George Franklin Dunkelberger in The > > Story of Snyder County, page 134, he states that Andrew died while living in > > the old stone house on Paul Kuster's farm which is a few miles west of > > Selinsgrove in Penn Township. My question to you is: where did you find > > Andrew's will? > > The will, as mentioned above, is that of the founder of Milton, not the > founder of Freeburg. > > > Is his signature a > > match with the deed for the one on Freeburg lots > > which he donated? > > Neither the man making the real estate transactions, nor the man whose will > has been referred to, is the founder of Freeburg. Secondary sources say > the founder of Freeburg died a pauper in 1826, so he almost certainly did > not leave a will. Nor was he around to be dealing in real estate in 1847. > > > I have not done much research in the last year because of health problems. > > But my health is much better now. Shiley Straub Morton > > I'm sorry to hear you have been ill, but much relieved to hear you are > better. You are such a storehouse of STRAUB knowledge, your participation > on the list has always been greatly valued. And in this instance, I would > be greatly appreciative if you could abstract those deeds. Or send the > photocopies to me, so I can abstract them. > > I'm particularly curious to know where this Andrew was "of" when he sold > parcels. I loose track of him after the 1810 census, but your research > clearly shows he was alive until at least 1847 -- and if only he had lived > to be enumerated in the 1850 Census! Surely, a man as prosperous as this > one -- Andrew III, s/o the found of Milton -- left a will. I would LOVE to > know who his children were! > > Shirley, do your deeds give any clue where Andrew III was living in 1847? > > Diana > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

I think it's very important that we get to the bottom of this, Shirley. Obviously, the "tradition" that Andrew, founder of Freeburg, died a pauper in 1826 is looking a bit fishy at this point. I'll be happy to plow through these deeds and abstract them. Thankfully, I'm a fast touch typist, so it's not an ordeal for me. I've sent you my USPS address in a private message. I do appreciate that we are benefiting from your years of hard work collecting these photocopies. I know I can speak for all of us when I say we are grateful that you are willing to share them. I'll do my best to make them available for everyone via the web site -- with due credit to you, of course. This business of the Andrews in this cluster of counties in the last 1700s and early 1800s has been driving me nuts. But I live in Florida, and have little prospect for making a trip to PA any time soon, if ever. Diana Shirley Morton wrote: > > Diana, I don't see how the deeds that I have are from anyone other than > Andrew who bought land from his father, Peter STROUP on 15 Jun 1792, sold to > Peter Fries on 29 April 1796,sold land to John STRAUB on15 Nov 1816, sold > two lots from the Heilbourn to John Raush for building the town of Freeburg, > sold land to John Raush for eight pounds on 30 April 1803 and hundreds of > other transactions over more than 50 years. His signature is the same on all > of them. On many deeds, after 1803, Barbara 's mark was also on the deeds. I > may have missed some before 1803. I would be pleased to share any of this > information with the Straub researchers. I have the copies of the deeds from > the various county courthouses. How would you like me to share this > information? Oh, yes, in answer to your question, the latest deed that I > found was sold in Centre County. It did say Andrew of Penn Township. In > Dunkelberger's book , he said that Andrew died in Penn Township. > Shirley STRAUB Morton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> > To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:01 PM > Subject: [STRAUB-L] Andrew STRAUBs > > > Shirley Morton wrote: > > > > > > Garry, Thanks for the information. I will add that to my folder. I have > > > another question . This is about Andrew Straub. I just read a message > that > > > Jim Burnell had put on RootsWeb about the will you found for Andrew. > > > > This was the will of Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. > > > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/AndrewStraub-EvaMariaWalter.htm > > > > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/CourtRecords/Will-AndrewStraub1748-1806 > .htm > > > > This Andrew's will shows he had extensive real estate holdings -- and not > > just in PA. But he died in 1806 and his wife was not Barbara, so he is > > obviously not the Andrew whose deeds you were reviewing. > > > > > Two > > > years ago, I had done some extensive research on Andrew, founder of > > > Freeburg, Snyder, PA. While visiting the county offices in Centre, > Mifflin, > > > Perry, Juniata, Union, Nothumberland and Cumberland, I found that Andrew > and > > > his wife, Barbara, had bought and sold many parcels of land from 1809 to > > > 1847. > > > > The person you have been studying is Andrew STRAUB III (1788- ), son of > > Andrew STRAUB II (1748-1806), founder of Milton. > > > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/FGS/Straub/AndrewStraubIII-Barbara_.htm > > > > Andrew III came of age and into his inheritance in 1809, which explains > why > > those transactions started in 1809. Andrew III was in Milton the 1810 and > > 1820 censuses. > > > > > Andrew had sold many in the years before 1809. In Centre County alone, > > > there were over 60 parcels sold. I checked on Andrew's signatures and > they > > > all match. Barbara just made her mark. I made copies of some of the deed > > > transactions, but there were just too many to make copies of all of > them. I > > > did copy the reference numbers on most of the ones in Centre County. But > I > > > ran out of time to do more. According to George Franklin Dunkelberger in > The > > > Story of Snyder County, page 134, he states that Andrew died while > living in > > > the old stone house on Paul Kuster's farm which is a few miles west of > > > Selinsgrove in Penn Township. My question to you is: where did you find > > > Andrew's will? > > > > The will, as mentioned above, is that of the founder of Milton, not the > > founder of Freeburg. > > > > > Is his signature a > > > match with the deed for the one on Freeburg lots > > > which he donated? > > > > Neither the man making the real estate transactions, nor the man whose > will > > has been referred to, is the founder of Freeburg. Secondary sources say > > the founder of Freeburg died a pauper in 1826, so he almost certainly did > > not leave a will. Nor was he around to be dealing in real estate in 1847. > > > > > I have not done much research in the last year because of health > problems. > > > But my health is much better now. Shiley Straub Morton > > > > I'm sorry to hear you have been ill, but much relieved to hear you are > > better. You are such a storehouse of STRAUB knowledge, your participation > > on the list has always been greatly valued. And in this instance, I would > > be greatly appreciative if you could abstract those deeds. Or send the > > photocopies to me, so I can abstract them. > > > > I'm particularly curious to know where this Andrew was "of" when he sold > > parcels. I loose track of him after the 1810 census, but your research > > clearly shows he was alive until at least 1847 -- and if only he had lived > > to be enumerated in the 1850 Census! Surely, a man as prosperous as this > > one -- Andrew III, s/o the found of Milton -- left a will. I would LOVE > to > > know who his children were! > > > > Shirley, do your deeds give any clue where Andrew III was living in 1847? > > > > Diana > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238