Diana, The contributions and compassionate input of your hard work on this list will be missed greatly! You have been a true treasure in my genealogy search. I have much respect for all the dedication and time you have spent diligently entering and posting information for all to access. I know that we will all miss you as a list owner. I am delighted that you will get to maintain your pages, since you are so passionate and thorough and committed to it. Good Luck! with your projects and hope for the best. This may just be the beginning of a brand new adventure you wouldn't have had time for as listowner. Peggy Wilson

Likewise, Diana. I don't know what it takes to manage the list, but I can almost guarantee most of us would not be willing to take it on. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your efforts on our behalf. Jim Jococity@aol.com wrote: > Diana, > > I too would like to thank you for the endless hours and mind boggling efforts > you have put into this list. I agree that having all the surnames on one > list would further our search much more efficiently than having to search > through over a dozen lists to gather the information we can derive from just > this one. But then you are an exceptional list owner and that means more to > us than you will probably ever know. > > Thanks again and do let us know what we can do to further enhance your view > to the RootsWeb. Unfortunately, it appears to be a decision already made and > non-negotiable at this point. Unless of course, it back-fires! > > Take care all, > Peggy > > ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > Search the USGenWeb Archives Digital Library at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm

Diana: Let me add my grateful appreciation to the others for all your efforts on our behalf. You do a great Job. And I also agree with all the points you make. I've only been on the list a couple weeks, but I already consider it one I can't do without. As the others have said, if there's anything I can do to help out, please ask. Thanks again, Dick < jrdgene@aol.com >

Diana, I also agree and thank you for all your hard work. Have a great holiday and if there is anything I can ever help you with, please let me know. Thanks again, Deborah -----Original Message----- From: Jococity@aol.com [mailto:Jococity@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 3:33 PM To: STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STRAUB-L] Announcement Diana, I too would like to thank you for the endless hours and mind boggling efforts you have put into this list. I agree that having all the surnames on one list would further our search much more efficiently than having to search through over a dozen lists to gather the information we can derive from just this one. But then you are an exceptional list owner and that means more to us than you will probably ever know. Thanks again and do let us know what we can do to further enhance your view to the RootsWeb. Unfortunately, it appears to be a decision already made and non-negotiable at this point. Unless of course, it back-fires! Take care all, Peggy ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== Search the USGenWeb Archives Digital Library at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm

Diana, I too would like to thank you for the endless hours and mind boggling efforts you have put into this list. I agree that having all the surnames on one list would further our search much more efficiently than having to search through over a dozen lists to gather the information we can derive from just this one. But then you are an exceptional list owner and that means more to us than you will probably ever know. Thanks again and do let us know what we can do to further enhance your view to the RootsWeb. Unfortunately, it appears to be a decision already made and non-negotiable at this point. Unless of course, it back-fires! Take care all, Peggy

greetings diana, thanks for all the work you do on our behalf; let us know what we can do to help. regards, nancy (married to a stroup descendant)

Hi Garry, Following is information I have on this family: Jacob Stroup, b 18 Mar 1771, Md or Pa, d 8 Oct 1846, Cass (Bartow) Co., Ga., m #1,25 Aug 1790 Elizabeth Dellinger. (Elizabeth (Betsy) d/o Henry Dellinger and Johanna Rudesill). Betsy b. ca. 1773, Lincoln Co., NC, d 1807. m #2 Hannah Hoyle. m #3 Sarah Jennings. Children: 1. Adam Stroup, b. 1791 NC, d 1798, Lincoln Co.,NC 2. Martha Catherine Stroup, b 11 Jan 1793, Lincoln Co., NC, d 11 Feb 1876, Cherokee Co.,Ga, m #1,28 Dec 1810, Jacob Rhyne, m #2 1817 James Strain, York Co,SC 3. Moses Stroup, b 12 Oct 1794, Lincoln Co,NC, d 31 Mar 1878, Shelby Co.,Al, m #1 Hester Amelia Alexander, m #2 Permelia Richards 30 Jan 1831. 4. Aaron Stroup, b. ca. 1796, Lincoln Co.,NC, m Elmina Waldrop, Habersham Co.,Ga. 5. Adam Washington Stroup, b Aug 1800, Lincoln Co.,NC, d Aug 1872, Whitfield Co.,Ga., m #1, Jane Peeler 1828, York Co.,NC, m #2 ca. 1856 Matilda (?). 6. Eli Stroup, b ca. 1801, Lincoln Co.,NC, m #1 1832, ?, #2 1838 Elizabeth Shetly. 7. Benjamin Franklin Stroup, b ca. 1802 Lincoln Co.,NC. d 8 Oct 1863, Cherokee Co., Ga., m #1 25 Sep 1830 Roena Stovall, m #2 1845 Elizabeth Sarah Roach, Cass Co., Ga. 8. Mary Stroup, b ca. 1802, Lincoln Co.,NC, d 9 Sep 1821, Lincoln Co.,NC, m Moses Nathaniel Dellinger, Lincoln Co.,NC 4 Sep 1820. 9. Josephus (Joseph) Stroup, b 1803, Lincoln Co.,NC, d 8 Oct 1863 Morgan Co.,Al, buried Stroup Cemetery, Danville, Al, m Jan 1824 Mary James York Co.,SC 10. Levi Stroup, b Lincoln Co.,NC, m Nancy S. Stucky, Habersham, Ga. 1835. Occupation: Cabinet Maker. 11. Alexander Stroup, ba 1807, d aft. 1860, m 15 Oct 1835 Irene Fewell, Habersham Co., Ga. 12. Elisha Stroup, b ca. 1811, m 1834 Eliza Jane McGinnas, Habersham Co., Ga. 13. Mary Amanda Jane Stroup, b 21 Aug 1824, York Co.,SC, d ca. 1859 Bartow Co., Ga., m 26 Aug 1841 John R. Gault, Bartow Co., Ga. 14. Andrew Jackson Stroup, b 21 Feb 1824, York Co.,SC, d 19 Mar 1884, Warsaw, Il. m #1, ?, m #2 Mary Ellen Smith 15. Jacob Decatur Stroup, Jr., b 21 Nov 1828, Decatur, Morgan Co., Al. ?, d 21 Apr 1911, Hancock Co., Il., m 7 May 1850 Dorcas Burke DeFriese, Talladega Co., Al. 16. Josephine Stroup, b 28 Apr 1830, Habersham Co., Ga., d aft. 1853 17. John Stroup, b ca. 1833, Habersham Co., Ga., d. 1912 Atlanta, Ga. 18 Mary Ann Stroup, b 4 Apr 1831, Habersham Co., Ga., d 1863, Bartow Co., Ga., m 29 Nov 1847 Jesse R. Ash, Cass Co., Ga. 19. Thomas B. Stroup, b. 24 Feb 1837, Habersham Co.,Ga., d 8 Oct 1842, Bartow Co., Ga. Barbara

Dear STRAUB/STROUP/etc. Cousins: My apologies for my absence from the list, but some major changes have taken place in the structure and policies of RootsWeb, changes which I considered sufficiently staggering that they are consuming my time and efforts. In short, due to economic problems (insufficient contributions from RootsWeb users), from here on out, RootsWeb's primary revenue will be advertising banners. To maximize revenue from the advertising banners, RootsWeb will be adding tens of thousands of new "bannered" web sites. These new bannered web sites will consist primarily of thousands of new RootsWeb Surname Resource Centers accompanied by matching mailing lists and suites of GenConnect boards. Unfortunately, the new RootsWeb Surname Resource Centers will include thousands of mostly duplicate surname mailing lists and GenConnect boards with the prime example from our point of view being the immediate addition of a STROUP mailing list and a set of STROUP GenConnect boards (in existence now), with future plans to add other variants. As all of us on this list know very well, STROUP is a variant spelling of STRAUB, *not* a separate surname. We are the same family. However, because RootsWeb's primary revenue will now be based on advertising banners, the more Surname Resource Centers, the more mailing-list archives, the more GenConnect boards, etc., the more revenue for RootsWeb. The emphasis, of course, will be on bannered RootsWeb sites, so for now, our STRAUB RootsWeb Home Page will not be listed at either the STRAUB or STROUP Surname Resource Center. Links to the STRAUB GenConnect boards will be from a bannered RootsWeb site, bypassing and rendering redundant the links on the current STRAUB Home Page. While I am very glad that RootsWeb has finally discovered a way to stay afloat financially, I am also highly disturbed about the long range effect of these thousands of redundant services, not only on Rootsweb, but on all of us -- both individually and as a research group. I believe we have greatly benefited from the concentration of resources that STRAUB-L and the STRAUB Home Page and family group sheets have given us, and I believe the splitting up of STRAUB-L and the STRAUB GenConnect boards is greatly to the detriment of any one working on this family. I have, naturally, voiced my objections and requested that all the variant spellings instead be merged into STRAUB with applicable cross-indexing, but for now it appears that instead of mergers, RootsWeb is only offering existing board/list owners the option of taking on the additional lists and boards. I will take on the added work, but it just seems crazy to me to be managing two (or more) mailing lists and two (or more) sets of GenConnect boards when the single list and set of boards are serving us so well. It will be a madhouse of cross-posting and duplication. We all know what a great mistake it is to split STROUP and STRAUB, or any of the other phonetic mispellings of STRAUB. I'm doing what I can to fight this change, but I suspect it is a losing battle. The bottom line is that RootsWeb wants to make itself look bigger and more attractive to newbies by offering a larger list of boards (in competition with GenForum et al.). I think decentralizing family information is a HUGE mistake, but I am not the management. What I would ask is that for now you please not sign up for the STROUP-L mailing list or post to the STROUP GenConnect boards (or whatever other variants may surface over the next few weeks). A great many other board/list owners are voicing the very same complaints about the treatment of their surname variants, and perhaps the management will cave to the pressure. Sincerely, Diana Your Very Exhausted/Frustrated List Administrator

Did I say that? My apologies for obfuscation if I did. Samuel is son of Andrew Jackson, son of Johan Daniel and Catherine "SEIDLER". All I have is at his web page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dianagal/Straub/FGS/SamuelStroup-MarySmith-HannaLechleitner.htm and his parent's web page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dianagal/Straub/FGS/AndrewJacksonStraub-SusannaCarl.htm Not wanting to pull a scab off on old wound here, so I won't name names, but there was once a page on the web giving the descendants of Andrew and Susanna (CARL) STRAUB. It included names, dates, and places for living descendants. Someone rightly objected to the data on living persons being posted, so the page was pulled. I had hoped the page would reappear without the offending data, but it never did. That was the page where I got most of what is now on the above page for Andrew Jackson and Susanna, and it included a son, Samuel, b. ca. 1813. That's all I knew about Samuel until Rosemary kindly sent me what I forwarded to the list last night. Diana Garry Heagy wrote: > > Diana, > > Concerning the information that was sent to you on Levi, you give his > father as Samuel, son of Mathias Andrew. I have children of Mathias > Andrew, Jr., but I don't have Samuel. Do you have a birth date or his full > name? .

Diana, Concerning the information that was sent to you on Levi, you give his father as Samuel, son of Mathias Andrew. I have children of Mathias Andrew, Jr., but I don't have Samuel. Do you have a birth date or his full name? Garry Heagy

I've posted the 1830 PA Census list. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dianagal/Straub/Misc/PA1830Census.htm Diana

Rosemary Grayson has kindly sent me the following: Here is the information I have on levi Stroup - buried in Southington. Levi Stroup - b. 3, Oct 1837 Married 19, June 1861 to Leah Hoffman (Trumbull County Marriage Record Book , Vol. 6, pg. 74) Died 25, Feb 1913 - Buried in Southington Cemetery He had the following children that I know of: Aaron b. 1864 - died 7, Mar 1874 Charlotte S b. 1869 - She married Oscar Harklrode, 27, Jun 1886 (Trumbull County Marriage Book, Vol.9, pg. 22; Father Levi Stroup gives consent for his daughter) Levi was the son of Samuel Stroup and Mary Smith. Mary died 27 May 1843. Samuel maried 2nd wife Hanna Lechleitner. Samuel was the son of Andrew Straub & Susannah Carl. ================= I have incorporated the data into the family group sheets. Many thanks, Rosemary! Diana

Nancy, This is the other question your post has raised. I suppose y'all have hashed this out before and know the answer, but I'm confused. I have two Johan Daniel STRAUBs: one married to Catherine SEIDLER and parent of Andrew Jackson STRAUB (b. 1790) and one married to Catharine SCHEETZ/SCHITZ and parent of the Jacob STRAUB who married Mary Magdalena BROBST. Are these two different Johan Daniels? If not, how do we roll Catherine into one person? I have trouble making SEIDLER into SCHEETZ or SCHITZ. Diana Earl Veits wrote: > > there are many stroups in cemeteries in that area, many are > the descendants of mathias andreas (andrew) straub b ca 1735 son of Johanne > Pieter (peter I) Stroub 1700-1760+ and anna maria barbara; said mathias > andreas (andrew) was brother to johann daniel, Sr. b ca 1745 m catherina > schutz... > > this levi does not appear to be related to us except by marriage, but jean > highland is certain he is. regards, nancy >

Well, we are certainly getting the Levi's straightened out. Maybe we should sort out the STROUP/STRAUBs one given name at a time! <g> By any chance do you have the tombstone readings? Knowing, especially, the date Levi was born would be enormously helpful in determing who he is. Is there a book available on the tombstones of Trumbull County? Or this cemetery? It sounds like these readings would be helpful in sorting out these STROUPs. Now that I've found out I'm probably descended from Johan Pieter and Anna Maria Barbara, I'm suddening very interested in everything to do with any of his descendants. Thank you for giving me his wife's name. I've added it to his web page. And you have raised another issue, but I'll address it in a second post. Diana Earl Veits wrote: > > greetings diana, in the german reformed cemetery in southington, ohio, > there is a gravestone for levi stroup and his wife, leah. i checked with my > husband's aunt, jean highland, today (family genealogist) and all we know > about him is that his wife was leah hoffman, daughter of jonas hoffman and > his wife hannah ziegler. they had two children: henry stroup and charlotte > stroup hurd. there are many stroups in cemeteries in that area, many are > the descendants of mathias andreas (andrew) straub b ca 1735 son of Johanne > Pieter (peter I) Stroub 1700-1760+ and anna maria barbara; said mathias > andreas (andrew) was brother to johann daniel, Sr. b ca 1745 m catherina > schutz... > > this levi does not appear to be related to us except by marriage, but jean > highland is certain he is. regards, nancy > > >I've dug up all I can on "Levi STROUP," and it doesn't help with finding > >his father, or even pinning down what happened to him. I've compiled > >what I found into new family group sheets (just two). > > > >One of the Levi's in Ohio looks like he might be a grandson of Jacob and > >Mary Magdalena (BROBST) STRAUB. > > > >One thing for sure: "Levi" STRAUB/STROUPs are not common critters. > >That's a big plus because when you do finally find him, because you'll > >know for certain -- as opposed to finding "John STROUPs," which always > >leaves you wondering... > > > >And I guess this wasn't a total waste because now we know, based on > >their ages, that these two new "Ohio" Levi STROUPS are not your man, so > >at least you can cross them off your list. > > > >The Heritage Quest Census index for Ohio in 1870 is really nice because > >it gives you the AGE of the head-of-household. Keeps you from wasting > >time getting the page and having it turn out to be the wrong person. I > >wish all census index CDs provided the head-of-household's age. > > > >Diana > > > > > >==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > >Search the USGenWeb Archives Digital Library at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > > > > > ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > You can reach the STRAUB GenConnect boards via the Index at: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Diana Earl Veits wrote: > > greetings diana, in the german reformed cemetery in southington, ohio, > there is a gravestone for levi stroup and his wife, leah. i checked with my > husband's aunt, jean highland, today (family genealogist) and all we know > about him is that his wife was leah hoffman, daughter of jonas hoffman and > his wife hannah ziegler. they had two children: henry stroup and charlotte > stroup hurd. there are many stroups in cemeteries in that area, many are > the descendants of mathias andreas (andrew) straub b ca 1735 son of Johanne > Pieter (peter I) Stroub 1700-1760+ and anna maria barbara; said mathias > andreas (andrew) was brother to johann daniel, Sr. b ca 1745 m catherina > schutz... > > this levi does not appear to be related to us except by marriage, but jean > highland is certain he is. regards, nancy > > >I've dug up all I can on "Levi STROUP," and it doesn't help with finding > >his father, or even pinning down what happened to him. I've compiled > >what I found into new family group sheets (just two). > > > >One of the Levi's in Ohio looks like he might be a grandson of Jacob and > >Mary Magdalena (BROBST) STRAUB. > > > >One thing for sure: "Levi" STRAUB/STROUPs are not common critters. > >That's a big plus because when you do finally find him, because you'll > >know for certain -- as opposed to finding "John STROUPs," which always > >leaves you wondering... > > > >And I guess this wasn't a total waste because now we know, based on > >their ages, that these two new "Ohio" Levi STROUPS are not your man, so > >at least you can cross them off your list. > > > >The Heritage Quest Census index for Ohio in 1870 is really nice because > >it gives you the AGE of the head-of-household. Keeps you from wasting > >time getting the page and having it turn out to be the wrong person. I > >wish all census index CDs provided the head-of-household's age. > > > >Diana > > > > > >==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > >Search the USGenWeb Archives Digital Library at: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > > > > > ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > You can reach the STRAUB GenConnect boards via the Index at: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html

I agree. Frederick is right on the mark. Levi's age is a couple years off, but otherwise he is in the right place at the right time and "Levi" is an unusual name for a STRAUB/STROUP. I have attached Levi to the other siblings, and I've added a family group sheet for Fredrick, attaching him also. Daniel's age is two or three years off, but because there are so many Daniel's, I think we need to be conservative -- but I'll bet he does turn out to be one of the siblings. And these two Catherine's prove that there were no less than three Catherine STROUP widows in Juniata Co. ca. 1850/60. Why-oh-why did they have to name so many daughters Catherine or Barbara?! Thank you for the data. Diana P.S. It just occurred to me. There should be records in Orphans Court for these children. Are there Orphans Court records available for Juniata Co., ca. 1831-1850? Smgdavis@aol.com wrote: > > Hi! > > These are some families taken from the 1850, 1860 and 1870 (I came across > them in reverse order) sent to me by Jim B. They may help us figure out this > family which included children John and Jacob. > > 1870 Juniata County Census - Beale Twp > Levi STROUP 25 patent agent $0/100 PA > Maggie 23 > David 1 > > 1860 Juniata County Census - Susquehanna Twp > Frederick STROUP 21 laborer PA > Amanda 20 > John 1 > Priscilla 3/12 > > 1860 Juniata County Census - Susquehanna Twp > Daniel STROUP 26 farmer real estate $700, other $400 PA > Eve 21 > Mary 1 > > 1860 Juniata County Census - Greenwood Twp > Catherine STROUP 56 widow > Susannah 24 > > 1850 Juniata County Census - Greenwood Twp > Catherine STROUP 52 > Peter 24 > Catherine 21 > Jeremiah 1 > > I believe the Levi and Frederick are from this family also, the others I > don't know for sure. > > Sue > > ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > You can reach the STRAUB GenConnect boards via the Index at: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html

Hi Diane and all: I think I have posted everything that I have typed into the computer. As I looked through my file, this is the only one that I found that I might not have posted, and these are just abstracts from published books. GENEALOGICAL ABSTRACTS FROM NEWSPAPERS OF THE GERMAN REFORMED CHURCH, 1830-1839, by Barbara Manning (Heritage Books). p. 88 12 Apr 1837 monies David Troub 2, Adam Troub 3 p. 218 22 May 1839 Monies Dr. John Ream 2, for John Troub 2, David Troub 2. GENEALOGICAL ABSTRACTS FROM NEWSPAPERS OF THE GERMAN REFORMED CHURCH, 1840-1843, by Barbara Manning (Heritage Books). p. 125 29 Sep 1841 Monies by Rev. P. S. Fischer from Abraham Straub Esq. (Milton) Here is one that it might be good to think about again. Clifford Neal Smith, German-American Genealogical Research Monograph no. 9, Emigrants from Fuerstenberg West Germany (1981) Thomson, IL: Heritage House, p. 328. Straub, Peter, Auerbach, Baden-Durlach. 1737 to America. Auerbach is not too far from Freiburg in Baden. Mr. Smith has arranged a German article that he found by a Hermann Baier investigating the emigration in the years 1712, 1737 and 1787 from Fuerstenberg in southwestern Germany. But we have Pieter Straub arriving in 1733 on the Pennsylvania Merchant. I noticed on the pages that I had copied on my ancestor Michael Reuter that I had a record for a Caspar Rauch. I knew he sounded familiar and sure enough he was one of those at Mohr's Zion Church in 1774 where the land was granted to Andrew More, Peter Stroup and Casper Roush. It says that this Caspar Rauch left before 1698 for Austria, but another Christof Rauch left in 1737 for Hungary. Both Peter Stroup and Casper Roush of Mohr's Church must be second generation in 1774. It is a coincidence anyway. Could this be a mistake by Hermann Baier and Peter Straub really left Auerbach in 1733? Maybe it is worth ordering the film to see if there is a marriage record for Peter Straub and Anna Maria Barbara. Has anyone on the Straub-L list read the parish record microfilm for Auerbach? Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Diana Gale Matthiesen [mailto:dianagal@ufl.edu] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 11:24 AM To: STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STRAUB-L] a plea for documents

greetings diana, in the german reformed cemetery in southington, ohio, there is a gravestone for levi stroup and his wife, leah. i checked with my husband's aunt, jean highland, today (family genealogist) and all we know about him is that his wife was leah hoffman, daughter of jonas hoffman and his wife hannah ziegler. they had two children: henry stroup and charlotte stroup hurd. there are many stroups in cemeteries in that area, many are the descendants of mathias andreas (andrew) straub b ca 1735 son of Johanne Pieter (peter I) Stroub 1700-1760+ and anna maria barbara; said mathias andreas (andrew) was brother to johann daniel, Sr. b ca 1745 m catherina schutz... this levi does not appear to be related to us except by marriage, but jean highland is certain he is. regards, nancy >I've dug up all I can on "Levi STROUP," and it doesn't help with finding >his father, or even pinning down what happened to him. I've compiled >what I found into new family group sheets (just two). > >One of the Levi's in Ohio looks like he might be a grandson of Jacob and >Mary Magdalena (BROBST) STRAUB. > >One thing for sure: "Levi" STRAUB/STROUPs are not common critters. >That's a big plus because when you do finally find him, because you'll >know for certain -- as opposed to finding "John STROUPs," which always >leaves you wondering... > >And I guess this wasn't a total waste because now we know, based on >their ages, that these two new "Ohio" Levi STROUPS are not your man, so >at least you can cross them off your list. > >The Heritage Quest Census index for Ohio in 1870 is really nice because >it gives you the AGE of the head-of-household. Keeps you from wasting >time getting the page and having it turn out to be the wrong person. I >wish all census index CDs provided the head-of-household's age. > >Diana > > >==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== >Search the USGenWeb Archives Digital Library at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > >

This is just a reminder, and a plea, for those of you who have documents (wills, deeds, obituaries, letters, stories, family bibles, biographies, pension affidavits, etc.), to post them to the document boards at STRAUB GenConnect. Links to the boards are at STRAUB Home: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dianagal/Straub/StraubHome.com The idea is not to post extractions, but to post the full document *verbatim*, both to alert other researchers to the existence of the document and to save them the work of having to acquire a copy themselves. All government documents, reports, and data are in the public domain and can be freely posted, copied, and used (you will never see a copyright notice on a government publication). This includes all county records and federal records, such as military pension applications or land patents (post the latter on the Deeds board). Textual material (i.e., works demanding creativity on the part of the author), that has been privately published after 1922 is under copyright. The work can be paraphrased and excerpts briefly quoted under the concept of "fair use." Most newspapers lay no claim to obituaries because, in part, they are usually written by the family and the family pays the newspaper to publish them. I have no reticence to posting an obituary, even if it's published after 1922, unless it's a very long one or carries a reporter's byline, in which case we should ask the newspaper for permission to post it. Don't hesitate to post those little obits, the ones that are only a few sentences long, even if they are recent. Short obituaries fall into the category of "fair use" by anyone's definition. Genealogists do a lot of what (we) scientists call, "reinventing the wheel," that is, wasting a lot of time starting from scratch, when we ought to be able to start where others have left off. And the reason we have to start from scratch is that the "others" who went before us shared their pedigrees, but not their sources. Or if they named their sources, they did not provide them. For example, wouldn't you gladly toss Charles Fisher's book, "Snyder County Pioneers," if you could just have all the notes and letters he used to write the book, instead?! If you don't want to make a formal post to the document boards, make an informal one to the list, because I am gleaning what I can from the STRAUB-L archives to post either on the GenConnect boards or at the web site. If we all make every piece of evidence we find readily available to everyone else -- and computers and the internet have made that possible -- we will all progress very much faster. And forgive me if I seem to preach. Y'all have been very generous. I just had a private message that prompted me to spell it out and mention it again. Good hunting, Diana

>From Ancestry.com: "| 1860 | STROUP | LEVI | Highland Co. | OH | p. 072 | Dodson Twp. | #OH44773796 |" "| 1880 | STROUP | LEVI | Collin Co. | TX | p. 105 | E.D. 20 | #TX31469044 |" "| 1850 | STROUP | LEVI | Gilmer Co. | GA | p. 420 | #33 Subdivision | #GAS5a1658503 |" "| 1860 | STROUP | LEVI | Gilmer Co. | GA | p. 090 | Subdivision 33 | #GA370138019 |" "| 1870 | STROUP | LEVI | Buncombe Co. | NC | p. 286 | Swannanoe Twp. | #NC5233285419 |"

Many thanks for the STROUP/HOSTETLER information Sue. I have incorporated into the online family group sheets. And, yes, *why* didn't he give Levi's parents?! There are quite a few discrepancies between the book and the family group sheet from Everton, and if I had to weigh their credibility, I would go with the book because -- I hate to say this -- the Everton family group sheet was very sloppy. Does not inspire confidence. Thanks again for sharing these data. Diana Smgdavis@aol.com wrote: > > Jim and Diana, > > I found the following today in my Descendants of Jacob Hochstetler book by > Harvey Hostetler, D.D., Gospel Book Store, Berlin, Ohio 44610 1970 page 713: > > 6607, Magdalena Hostetler, 6606, Sapulpa, Okl., was b. July 4, 1848, and m. > Levi Stroup who d. in 1891. [children] David H., 6608; Sallie H., 6609; > William H., 6611; John H., 6612; Andrew H., ; Lee R., July 28, 1882 - ; > Maggie, 6613. > > 6608, David H. Stroup, 6607, 1313 Esplanade St., N.S., Pittsburg, Pa, was b. > Nov. 11, 1868, at Walnut, Pa., and m. Dec. 26, 1889, Gertrude S. Minds, dau. > of Charles Minds, Ramey, Pa., at death, and Catherine Kleinginnie. Salesman. > > 6609, Sallie H. Stroup, 6607, Wilgus, Pa., was b. Apr. 4, 1872, and m. > William H. Millard who was b. May 12, 1850. [children] Maggie, 6610; > Elizabeth, Feb. 26, 1894 - ; William, Mar. 28, 1897 - ; Sarah, .....19, 1899 > - ; Virness Rebecca, Jan. 18, 1901 - Oct. 3, 1901; Archie L., Aug. 25, 1903 - > . > > 6611, William H. Stroup, 6607, Newport, Pa., was m. to Daisy Garvin. > > 6612, John H. Stroup, 6607, Sapulpa, Okl, was b. Feb. 6, 1877, and m. Oct. 5, > 1905, Estella Kinter, dau. of Porter W. Kinter, Rochester Mills, Pa., whose > wife was Miss Shankle. Baptist church. Ruth Estella, Mar. 21, 1909 - . > > 6613, Maggie Stroup, 6607, Linglestown, Pa., R. 2, was b. Oct. 18, 1882, and > m. Dec. 18, 1902, Elmer Clayton Sweigard, son of Michael William and Rebecca > (Radel) Sweigard, Linglestown, Pa. United Brethren church. [child] Melvin > Leroy, July 28, 1908 - . > > [] = added by me > > Too bad it didn't give us Levi's parents' names! :-( > > Sue > > ==== STRAUB Mailing List ==== > To find GenConnect country, state, or county boards, > go to the "World Visitor Center" at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/qindex.html