Hi Shirley; Thanks so much for the info. I already own some of Annette's wonderful books. I look forward to getting the Grossgartach book and reading the microfilm. We are making wonderful progress on the Straub family. It is always so good to get them back to Germany and Annette Burgert's books have solved several of my German lines. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Morton [mailto:ssmorton@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:15 PM To: STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STRAUB-L] Re: Mary Straub Smith, dau of Peter Straub Gwen, I ordered all of Annette K. Burgert's publications from her at AKB Publications, 691 Weavertown Road, Myerstown, PA 17067-2642. Also, you might want to look at the Birmensdorf, Switzerland, Census of 1660 from FHC. There are many STRAUB families listed. In the July 1989 Mennonite Family History magazine, there are names of STRAUBs who moved to Wurttemberg and some who went to the Palatinate. Just some extra information from shirley Straub Morton

Hopefully some of you veteran STRAUB people can help me. My Jacob Straub arrived in the United States about 1850. His son Jacob was born according to one census in Wisconsin; on another one, in Germany. He was born May 16, 1849. Son John was born April 13, 1855 in Wisconsin. Daughter Mary was born January 9, 1861 in Kansas. "Old" Jacob was born about 1816 in Bremen, Germany and married Maria Petri, who was born about 1820. I can follow this family from Kansas on down, but cannot locate them in Wisconsin or on any passenger list, etc. I hope someone out there can help me. Donna in Wichita

Welcome back! I was rather startled to see a sudden influx of STRAUB material. Glad to know things are back on track for you and for the list. I've been sidelined, myself. My dear guide dog, Delsie, had to be put to sleep last month on, of all days, the eleventh of September. She died at the same hour the planes slammed into the World Trade Center towers and I do believe that she was there to guide the newly departed souls to the rainbow bridge. Stil, it has been difficult for me to know that my sweet guide is no longer around. My online presence has been a bit diminished I am related to the STRAUB lines through Susannah Hogendoubler or Hougendoubler (or any of the many variants) whose mother was a STRAUB (although I'd have to consult my notes to find it now). I have it all somewhere, but I'm down with a nasty cold just now and will wait until I'm feeling a bit better to post my data. Sylvia Stevens At 08:59 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I guess I should just clear the air on this one, especially for those who >may not have been on the STRAUB-L list since its inception. > >I was the original creator/admin of the STRAUB-L mailing list (and of a >full suite of Straub GenConnect Boards -- now the Straub Message Boards at >Ancestry.com) back in January of 1999. I had done so (including the >"donation" required to do so) believing the "RootsWeb Genealogy Data >Cooperative" was a non-profit organization. In May of 1999, RootsWeb >announced that it had incorporated as a for-profit corporation, and >advertising began to appear on the site. My outspoken (understatement) >objections to discovering the true nature of RootsWeb led to my resigning >and being banned, which meant, among other things, that I could not >subscribe to any mailing lists based on RootsWeb servers. That ban was in >effect until a few weeks ago when negotiations with the new owners of >RootsWeb (MyFamily.com, Inc., which also owns Ancestry.com) got me >reinstated as a member of STRAUB-L -- and, as of today, reinstated as list >administrator. > >I'm glad to see some of the old faces are still members! We had a vibrant, >active group going there for awhile -- making progress and, really, having >a lot of fun. With the vastly increased resources online, I know my >research is moving ahead more quickly, and I hope yours is, too, and that >an active STRAUB-L list will again become a valuable tool. > >In conjunction with creating the STRAUB-L mailing list and supporting the >GenConnect board, I had also started a linked, related STRAUB web site on >the RootsWeb servers, making a central location for STRAUB resources. >After the ban, I moved the STRAUB web site to a commercial web host -- the >fastest host I could find -- which also has the advantage that there is no >advertising on the pages. > >While the STRAUB web site has grown some during the past two years, I had >more-or-less put STRAUB research on a back-burner, which is how the rest of >my site grew so large -- really, at the expense of STRAUB. > >http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/index.htm > >But my late mother was a STRAUB, so this surname is near and dear to me. I >have a backlog of STRAUB material to post and family group sheets to >update. It is my intention to return to making STRAUB research my >priority. I work on all STRAUBs, not just my own line, and I hope I can >make the web site truly useful for all STRAUBs. > >http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/StraubHome.htm > >It's good to be back. It's good to "see" y'all again. And although we've >already got a couple of threads going, perhaps this might be a good time to >do a Roll Call -- I've no doubt one hasn't been done in awhile! A Roll >Call means giving your STRAUB line and outlining your most pressing STRAUB >genealogy question. > >By the way, let's not forget to NOT post information on living people. >Also, no home addresses or telephone numbers, posted to the list. Please >exchange such information privately -- for your own security. > >I'll start the Roll Call with a new message... so you can just delete this >one. :-) > >Diana > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Gary, I asked about the wording when I was at the Courthouse because the rest of the documents dispute what I read for both his (John's) death and the age of the children. The words"about fifteen years" means within that time frame because the age of the children was the topic. The words "above" were used to describe that starting with number one and writing it down in a column on a page, the age below is 14 and all lesser ages are "above". The Pennsylvania law at that time mandated that all children whose father had died were to be assigned a guardian. I have a copy of the Court record for 1824 which states that all six children were in that category. It is important to understand some of the different wording in these court records. And, also, in the land records and wills. I have found the tax records to be more specific. That seems to be the case wherever money is a concern. Hope this answers your questions. Good to hear from you. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Heagy" <gheagy@sgci.com> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [STRAUB-L] Roll Call > Shirley, > > I've looked at the Orphan's Court Record for your John Straub. Would you > please confirm the following: > > 1) The records say that John died in 1820. (22nd day of December AD > 834 - "the father of your petitioners wards died intestate about fifteen > years since in the year eighteen hundred and twenty") > > 2) The records say that on "September Term 1832", the sons, John - Jonathan > and Daniel, "are minors children above the age of fourteen of John Straub". > (meaning all born by 1818) > > > ______________________________________ > Scanned and protected by Spectrum Global Communications Inc. > http://www.sgci.com > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Shirley, I've looked at the Orphan's Court Record for your John Straub. Would you please confirm the following: 1) The records say that John died in 1820. (22nd day of December AD 834 - "the father of your petitioners wards died intestate about fifteen years since in the year eighteen hundred and twenty") 2) The records say that on "September Term 1832", the sons, John - Jonathan and Daniel, "are minors children above the age of fourteen of John Straub". (meaning all born by 1818) ______________________________________ Scanned and protected by Spectrum Global Communications Inc. http://www.sgci.com

My name is Shirley STRAUB Morton. I am glad that I gave my friend, Debbe Hagner permission to send that information to Diana concerning the Union County Orphan's Court Records about John STRAUB's estate and guardians of the children. Last year I was not able to do much of any thing due to a severe bout with pneumonia. This year , my health is much better. My line is: John STRAUB, b. ?, d. 13 Jan 1824 =Elizabeth Steeley, 12 Dec1794 -17 May 1864 ---Jonathan Francis STRAUB, Sr. 9 May 1821 -2 Nov 1901 = Barbara Steffen, 20 Dec1834 -25 Dec 1919 -----Jonathan Francis STRAUB, Jr., 5Nov1873 - 30 Sep 1910 = Lily Agnes Kerstetter, 23 Jul 1869 - 15 Jan 1914 --------William Augustus STRAUB, 10 Jan 1908 -19 May 1992 = Estella Lillian Moser - 3 Oct 1908 - 22 Dec 1982 My brick wall is finding solid evidence that John STRAUB who married Elizabeth Steeley was the soldier of Revolutionary days. Or was he John's son? Or was his father someone other than Peter who died in 1804? They all lived in the area that is now Snyder County, PA.

Gwen, I ordered all of Annette K. Burgert's publications from her at AKB Publications, 691 Weavertown Road, Myerstown, PA 17067-2642. Also, you might want to look at the Birmensdorf, Switzerland, Census of1660 from FHC. There are many STRAUB families listed. In the July 1989 Mennonite Family History magazine, there are names of STRAUBs who moved to Wurttemberg and some who went to the Palatinate. Just some extra information from shirley Straub Morton Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Boyer Bjorkman" <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: RE: [STRAUB-L] Re: Mary Straub Smith, dau of Peter Straub > Of course, anything I ever send is meant to be copied and used by everyone. > That is the only way we ever learn anything is by sharing. I am going to > the FHC tomorrow and order that film for Grossgartach and I ordered the book > on-line today from Willow Bend Books. Took me forever to find someone > on-line that was selling the book, so I will let others know that is where > it is. > > Annette K. Burgert, Grossgartach, Wuerttemberg, to Pennsylvania. > > Willow Bend Books > 65 East Main Street > Westminster, MD 21157-5026 > 410-876-6101 > 800-876-6103 > fax 410-871-2674 > > bookorder@willowbend.net > www.WillowBendBooks.com > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DianaGM@dgmweb.net [mailto:DianaGM@dgmweb.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:38 PM > To: STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STRAUB-L] Re: Mary Straub Smith, dau of Peter Straub > > Hi Gwen! Yes, it's been awhile. > > No, I have no problem with your Stephen and Mary. I'm just TERRIBLY behind > on getting the web site up to date. There is a great deal of material that > has been sent, not just recently, but in past months, too, that I need to > incorporate. Please don't hesitate to pester me. I will keep working at > getting it online. If you don't mind me quoting you at length and > verbatim, I could attach the info you just sent to the Sources of Mary's > page. Would that be OK? (With due credit to you, of course.) > > Diana > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Susan, I have been researching Andrew Straub, the son of Peter since 1979. My dad ,born in 1908, said that the Andrew who founded Freeburg, Snyder, PA, was his great-great uncle. Dad's source of information was from his great aunt, Salomi Straub Shaffer who was born in 1859and died about 1936. Two years ago, I had gone to several counties in central PA to search for information concerning Andrew. In Centre at Bellefonte, I found that Andrew and his wife, Barbara bought and sold about 50 parcels of land in that county. Then I visited Mifflin, Perry, Union, Northumberland and Cumberland. That Andrew ( I checked his signature on the land transfer documents) and his wife Barbara, had bought and sold many parcels of land during the late 1700's and the first half of 1800.- There were so many that I did not have enough time to make copies of all of them.-I have a copy of the original transfer of Peter Straub's spelled STROUP) land deeded to Andrew, his son for 900 pounds on 15 June 1792. Found in Deed Book E, pages 444 and 445 in the Northumberland County Courthouse records. I have more documents if you want the reference numbers. Shirley Straub Morton-- Original Message ----- From: <Smgdavis@aol.com> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:57 PM Subject: [STRAUB-L] STRAUB > Has anyone on the list tried looking for a will for Andrew Straub of > Freeburg? As I understand it, he died a poor man, but at one time he had > quite a bit of property, which would have either been distributed to his > children or sold. I have a friend who tried looking in Perry, and I believe > Snyder County, with no luck. > > Susan Gates Davis > http://www.angelfire.com/mi/GatesDavisGene > Stroup-Keck Genealogy > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

My interst is in STRAUB in Carroll County KY. Joachim STRAUB showed up in Carrollton, KY about 1858. His spouse was Margaret FLANNIGAN. 1860 census says Joachim was born in Switzerland, and Margaret in Ireland. Joachim and Margaret's children were Rebecca (never married), Joachim, Mary (married John FELLER), Margaret (married William MATHEWS), Emma (married Mathew GRASMICK), and William (married Margaret HILL). My brick walls --- Where exactly did Joachim and Margaret come from, and when did they come? Where were they married? Did they live elsewhere in America before settling in Carrollton? Regards, Dick

Has anyone on the list tried looking for a will for Andrew Straub of Freeburg? As I understand it, he died a poor man, but at one time he had quite a bit of property, which would have either been distributed to his children or sold. I have a friend who tried looking in Perry, and I believe Snyder County, with no luck. Susan Gates Davis http://www.angelfire.com/mi/GatesDavisGene Stroup-Keck Genealogy

Hi, I haven't had alot of time to do research on my Straub Line so I don't have to much on them yet. And my grandmother never did talk much about her family so it's been hard getting information. .Jacob Straub b. May 3, 1888 - Emma Dallman ..Irene Straub - Ernest Nommensen ...Ronald Nommensen - Lois Morbeck ....Me - Rachel Nommensen My brick wall is trying to find out who Jacob Straub's parents were and where he was born. I know that he lived in Milwaukee, WI because that is where my grandmother was born. But I don't know much before that. Rachel Nommensen :o)

Hi, My Straub/Stroup family went from Juniata County, PA to St. Joseph Co, Indiana. My husband's earliest proven ancestor was: 1. Moses Stroub b. c1794 m. Catherine Bowman (dau. of Jacob Bowman & Ann Wohlgemuth) 2. John Stroup b.Jan 1827 d. 9 Oct 1905 m. Catherine Haas (dau. of Eli Haas & Catherine (Keeley?) 3. William Sylvester Stroup b. 6 Jul 1866 d. 1 Jun 1945 m. Mable Etta Price (dau. of Christopher Price and Elizabeth Jane Johnson) 4. Wilbur Monroe Stroup b. 21 Nov 1901 d. 20 July 1985 m. Glenice LaVon Keck (dau. of Jesse Keck and Ida Madge Pembrook) 5. Laurene LaVon Stroup Davis (still living) I am interesting in finding proof of Moses Straub's parents. He lived in Greenwood Twp, Mifflin (later Juniata) County, Pennsylvania. You might want to visit my Stroup website at the URL shown below. Susan Gates Davis http://www.angelfire.com/mi/GatesDavisGene Stroup-Keck Genealogy

----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Owen <dianaowen@home.com> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: [STRAUB-L] Straub-Roll Call Name is Jim Burnell; the Straub/Stroup line is close, as that was my mother's maiden name. Line goes from me to Joyce Stroup to Arthur Stroup (b. 1907, Huntingdon Co. PA) to Jay Jacob Stroup ( b. 1887, Rice Co. KS) to Jacob D. Stroup (b. 1862, Juniata Co. PA or nearby) to Jacob B. Stroup (b. 1829, Juniata Co. PA or nearby) to Moses Stroup/Straub (b. ca. 1794; ?Pfoutz Valley? Juniata/Snyder/Perry Co.) to ? The several of us working on this line can't get back any further right now. I remember Garry's theory that Moses was a son of Peter Straub. We do know that the ancestral family home was in the Pfoutz Valley, which crosses the Juniata River and the Juniata/Perry County line. We also know that Andrew Straub (of Freeburg, Snyder Co.) owned land in the Pfoutz Valley, which is a short carriage ride from Freeburg. I have been trying to gather information on the Straub/Stroup families of that Juniata/Perry/Snyder area AND the family up the road in Mifflin County. I sent for about 30 Civil War pension applications for Pennsylvania Stroup veterans just before the price went up. I have received only about 3 or 4, was notified that several others could not be located, and the remainder are in some sort of limbo. Here's hoping that those records come trickling in as time goes on and allows us all some additional information. (At the current price of $30 apiece, I don't intend to do much fishing.) So I can possibly assist some of you if time allows. Between the Denver office of the National Archives and the Denver Public Library, I have access to all the census records. As of now, I am in the process of "sweeping" all the records for Mifflin, Juniata, and Snyder/Union/Northumberland, for names of interest, one of which is Stroup/Straub. So I have available many census records from those counties for the family of concern. I look forward to increased activity. Jim

Hi! Everyone- My name is Carey Hross. Family lore said we are related to Peter Straub of Freeburg, Pa. but no proof yet. My Straub line is: Andrew S. Straub = Nancy Cupp Joel C. Straub = Mary Elizabeth Newell Charles C. Straub = Elizabeth Mae Holsapple Betty Jane Straub = Julius S. Hross Mark Hross = Lois Schaefer ---------me------------- Hi! Diana --welcome back. We are having the same problem finding Andrew S. Straub of Waldo parents. Carey

Hi Everyone, Welcome Diana M. (You are just what we need! :-) Here's my Straub line-- Johann Adam Straub 1775 - Maria Catherine Heilman abt 1775 -John (Johnathon) Peter Straub 1798 - Harriot 1802(ANYONE KNOW MORE ABOUT HER?) --Em(m)aline Savilla Straub 1824 PA - *John (Jacob) Peter Stecker 1822 PA *Murdered in MN for money from the sale of cattle (or land). Found frozen in Lake Cannon MN ---Jacob Henry Stecker 1848 PA - Rebecca Jane Bailey 1857 MN ----Winona L. Stecker 1876 MN - John H. Chapman 1873 MN -----Earl Jacob Chapman 1912 MN - Lucille Mary Wallenfang 1907 Tacoma WA ------and moi--Diana Chapman Owen

We seem to have immediately gotten involved in what has been a difference of opinion as to the ancestry of (Johann) Pieter STRAUB, 1733 immigrant to Philadelphia on the brigantine "Pennsylvania Merchant" (with wife Maria and sons Pieter and Jacob). Two schools exist: 1) that his parents are Hans Kristoph STRAUB and Anna Elisabetha KETTEMANN of Grossgartach, Wuerttemberg; and 2) that his parents are Hans Adam STRAUB and Anna Barbara DETSCHLER. The source for the former is church records from Grossgartch filmed by the LDS and (apparently) transcribed into a book by Annette Kunselman Burgert called, "Grossgartach, Wuerttemberg, to Pennsylvania: Some Early Colonial German Immigrants" (1999, AKB Publications, Myerstown, PA). I do not know the source for the latter. Does anyone? What documentation I have is on this family group sheet: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/6/Straub/FGS/JohannPieterStraub-AnnaMariaBarbaraHoffman.htm One would think I would have gotten immersed in the question a long time ago, but as I have not yet proven my connection to (Johann) Pieter, I had decided to sit back and let y'all hash this one out. Given that (Johann) Pieter is the progenitor of a great many American STRAUBs, it's a question of considerable importance to STRAUB genealogists. Diana

This is a follow-up to my previous post. The birth year I have for Daniel Straub (1778), who married Elizabeth Hahn was from an LDS record. If the 1850 census record is correct, then Daniel (65) was born in 1784-5.

Darn, it's great to see so many of the old names and personalities from the glory days of the STRAUB-L list! Diana and Gwen and Garry. Gee whiz, I had a flashback there! I just haven't had any time to put into genealogy at all for the last 6 months. Maybe things will slow down this winter. Made a trip back to Central PA last January, but could spare only a single afternoon in Mifflintown and didn't find anything of great note. Good to hear that you are all still working at it. Good hunting! Jim Burnell ----- Original Message ----- From: Gwen Boyer Bjorkman <gwenbj@seanet.com> To: <STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: RE: [STRAUB-L] Re: Mary Straub Smith, dau of Peter Straub > Of course, anything I ever send is meant to be copied and used by everyone. > That is the only way we ever learn anything is by sharing. I am going to > the FHC tomorrow and order that film for Grossgartach and I ordered the book > on-line today from Willow Bend Books. Took me forever to find someone > on-line that was selling the book, so I will let others know that is where > it is. > > Annette K. Burgert, Grossgartach, Wuerttemberg, to Pennsylvania. > > Willow Bend Books > 65 East Main Street > Westminster, MD 21157-5026 > 410-876-6101 > 800-876-6103 > fax 410-871-2674 > > bookorder@willowbend.net > www.WillowBendBooks.com > > Gwen Boyer Bjorkman > gwenbj@seanet.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DianaGM@dgmweb.net [mailto:DianaGM@dgmweb.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:38 PM > To: STRAUB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STRAUB-L] Re: Mary Straub Smith, dau of Peter Straub > > Hi Gwen! Yes, it's been awhile. > > No, I have no problem with your Stephen and Mary. I'm just TERRIBLY behind > on getting the web site up to date. There is a great deal of material that > has been sent, not just recently, but in past months, too, that I need to > incorporate. Please don't hesitate to pester me. I will keep working at > getting it online. If you don't mind me quoting you at length and > verbatim, I could attach the info you just sent to the Sources of Mary's > page. Would that be OK? (With due credit to you, of course.) > > Diana > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Okay, if you don't need dates ... won't have to wait: Henry and Lucinda Downey STRAUB (OH-> Jefferson,IN) --George and Mable Johnson STRAUB (Bartholomew, IN) ----Leonard and Anna O'Neal STRAUB (Bartholomew, IN) ------Joseph and Wilma STRAUB (PA > Bartholomew, IN) --------moi

WELCOME BACK DIANA!! We MISSED you more than words can say. I'm on vacation and won't be able to post my roll-call until next week. Sure is nice to have you back again. Peggy