This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STOUT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QKQBAIB/2092.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Rob, I have good reason to believe that Joseph and Elizabeth were NOT the parents of George S. Stout. Herald Stout's book (page 160) gives the following information on George S. Stout (my g-g-grandfather): Went from TN to St. Clair Co., IL, in 1801; married Phoebe Riggs in Sangamon Co., IL, in 1809; was the son of Joseph Stout (page 69). Died in 1781. I believe that George S. Stout's real father was George Stout, Sr. and not Joseph Stout. Here is what I have found to support that possibility. In the 1815 land survey/plat map of St. Clair township, St. Clair Co., IL, it shows a large tract owned by George Stout, Sr., and two adjacent, smaller tracts owned by George Stout, Jr. and William Stout. One could conclude that George, Jr. was the son of George, Sr. Furthermore, the "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index 1763-1900" shows that a George Stout, Jr. married Phebe(sic) Rigg(sic) on 10/2/1810 in St. Clair Co., IL. It does appear that George S. Stout and George Stout, Jr. are one and the same, and that George S.'s father was George Stout, Sr. and not Joseph Stout. Not absolute proof, but at least there is some documented information to support this while the Herald Stout book provides no support of the linkage. I don't know how this relates to the other possible son, John, but I suspect the same linkage problem exists. In summary, I have two conflicting sources on who the father of George S. Stout was, and neither source provides sufficient proof to accept it as fac! tual. I've posted my dilema on this board before but no one has provided any help. My lineage is: 1.George S. Stout - Phoebe Riggs 2. Daniel Riggs Stout - Elizabeth Crane 3. George Thomas Stout - Matilda Byard 4. Clyde Leslie Stout - Helen Leona Johnson 5. Me If you would like copies of the supporting information I have for George S. Stout let me know. I can dig it up and email it to you. ( No one ever said this genealogy stuff was easy!) Bill