Hello Stouts, Is anyone on this list near Albany? That is where the Charles Gehring project is centered. It is also called the New Netherlands Project (NNP). Maybe, by a long shot, they have in the Registries somewhere a line on Penelope being a passenger on the Kath. I think you have to go to get assistance. I can no longer find an e-mail for them. I have this offer from my sister-in-law: "This idea may lead to nothing, but I will share it with you. A friend here is a descendant of the Maduro family (yes, THE Maduro-dam family). After the death of an aunt, who lived in Holland, he now manages a significant estate, the two biggest parts of which are a)the largest bank in Curacao and b)an old, international shipping company. A grandfather was in the House of Lords or something. He goes to Curacao regularly to do his shipping/banking/estate thing. He also jetsets to London and elsewhere with frequency. He speaks Dutch and Papiamento. If he can find anything out about the Kath I will let you know." It is possible that since the Kath sailed with another ship which we know went via Curacao that they have records there. I am going to try to get to Zeist this week or next and I am definitely scheduled to go to Amsterdam again on Thursday. Regards, Linda --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01