Hi I'm new to the list and would like to post my brick wall to see if anyone out there can help. Michael Stout b.abt 1886 WV was my great grandfather. I'm not sure if he and my great grandmother were even married but in 1912 he was in Nicholas County, West Virginia. Him and Bertha Mae Cowell had a child named Daisy Mae Stout b. November 26,1912. I don't think he even stuck aroung to see her born grandma didn't want to talk about him but said she met him twice in her life that she can remember. Her mother told her Michael was a gambler and moved around alot. When my grandmother died we found a picture of Michael and Bertha so if you think you might reconize him please let me know I can post the picture on my web site. Any information would greatly be appreciated. Thank you Lisa Watson, Hopkins County, Kentucky homepage; http://sites.netscape.net/leader1314/homepage get paid to receive and send email click on the link below to go to zwallet and get started or to just check it out if you send and receive emails why not get paid to do it click below http://zwallet.com/join.html?user=inggo714 ______________________________________________________ Get Paid... With Your Free Email at http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=inggo714

Hi All, My STOUTS are proving a little elusive but there may be some-one out there who can provide a clue or 2. My Grandfather Frederick Walter STOUT, a newspaper editor, b. 1884 immigrated to Western Australia in 1909 from West India Docks Road, Limehouse, London. He married Ellen Unita DOUST at Bridgetown in 1916 and my Mother was their eldest child. He was the eldest of 3 children. His brother Arthur, sister Ellen and brother-in-law Otto immigrated to Western Australia with their parents in 1915. My Great-grand-father was Edward Walter STOUT b. 1852 who married Emily Elizabeth HARVEY in 1883. His parents were William Morrison STOUT, a stationer and Mary nee MITCHELL who had 5 sons: William STOUT b. 1843, Joseph Frederick STOUT b. 1845, Harold STOUT b. 1851, Edward STOUT b. 1852 and James STOUT b. 1855. Their main business was dealing in Musical Instruments with Cutlery and Baby Linen in 3 shops with warehouse storage and accommodation above. They were all well educated and staunch members of the Church of England. If any one feels that their STOUTs came from the East End of London I have further information on other STOUT families which I haven't proved to be connected to mine. Marg. Mansfield Member WAGS http://cleo.murdoch.edu.au/~wags/member/7048.htm Member DPS Perth. http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/default.html 7 August 2001 - Tick YES for saving our census, please! Want to know more? http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/~affho/ . ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Gentile <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Stouts in Indian Territory > I'm DEFINITELY researching Stouts with that time and place parameter....been > running into a big dead end for over a dozen years now. My info is at web > page: > > http://members.aol.com/ftnkid/anna.htm > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Is there anyone researching any Stouts from Ok. or Indian Territory. > > My line is from there researching Robert L. Stout born in Indian Territory > > Abt. 1870. > > > > Mike Stout > > > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ==== > > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ==== > > > >

Brenda LaGrone wrote: > This message is in reply to Beth Cranmer. We, the Stout family are from > Louisiana. Yes, we are everywhere. In all actuality the Stout families > descendant of here in Louisiana have chosen to spell our last name several > different ways. BUT it still adds up to Stout. There are Stout, Stoute, > Stoutes, Stute, Stutes, Stoot, Stutz, Stoud, Stoudt, and Stuts families here in > Louisiana and have moved to other states since our forefathers began here. > We all seem to be descendants of the same married couple according to Soutwest > Louisiana Records written by Father Donald Hebert of Louisiana. The first volume > dates back to approximately the 1780's. These are revised written entries from > priests here in Louisiana during that time. > There are discrepancies of the actual first name of our founding father according > to these records. > The first entry in Volume #1 states he is Pierre Stout married to Isabella > Pirella. > It is said that he was born in Germany before 1765. > Upon the marriage of his son Michel Stout, born in Germany around 1778. It is > stated that his father is Michel and mother Isabel Stuts. > Upon the marriage of another son Joseph Benjamin, he is stated as Peter Stout. > How confusing can it get? > For the marriage a third son, it is stated he is Peter Stout married to Marie > Mollon. But no entries were made stating the marriage of Peter Stout to Marie > Mollon. > In all actuality we have no idea where Michel/Pierre/Peter Stout came from once > he reached America. > Entry on one son Pierre Stout, the statement is made that they came from Germany. > > Assumptions are father Michel/Pierre/Peter Stout and wife Isabella Pirella along > with sons Michel and Pierre Stout came to America from Germany. Some family > members state from Germany. Others state from England, and yet others are saying > Ireland. Here in Louisiana we speak Cajun French. I was told that the Stout > family once was English only. But that does not decipher anything. I am told > that Maria Mollon was from Ireland and quite possibly that would be the Irish > descent. > > In the Soutwest Louisiana Records, Volume #1, it also names a Samuel Toups. > Later volumes has him under Stout. One can only assume that he was actually a > Stout. But no entries as to whether he was father, brother, or any relation to > our Michel/Peter/Pierre stout am a descendant of his son Pierre Stout. > Do any of you out there have any information dated back to around 1780 or before > with any of these names. I have yet to connect with anyone via the internet that > can aide with information regarding this family, who they actually were or where > they actually came from. The only information that was somewhat helpful was from > the Southwest Louisiana Records. > > Responses would be most helpful. > Brenda Stutes LaGrone > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > I have been so impressed with the Stout lineage's arriving by e-mail. I > > > sent mine earlier, and to summarize ....I am directly from Richard/Penelope > > > Stout through their son Richard who married Mary Seymour (which explains so > > > many Seymour Cranmer's in my line) and granddaughter Rebecca who married > > > John Cranmer......so on down to me. > > > > > > I live in NJ and since the Stout name is so prominent here, I made the > > > wrong assumption that most Stout's of the same line lived here or in the > > > neighboring states. WRONG! So many moved westward etc quite early (must be > > > the pioneering sprit in us thanks to Penelope) I'm interested that true > > > cousins of mine live all over the United States. > > > > > > Anyone wishing to contact me directly should understand I spell my > > > [email protected] The spelling must be exact or any/all e-mails > > > will bounce. > > > > > > Beth Cranmer > > > > > > > > > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ====

Allen Joseph STOUT was my 1st cousin 5 times removed. I went to the journel link and was unable to open it. I would love to read it. . Allen kept a journal during the years 1815 - 1848 in which not only detailed his experience during the formative years of the Mormon church, but also gave some valuable clues about the family ancestry. A copy of the journal used to be available on the net (http://math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDSEarly-Saints/stout,aj) but I'm not sure it it still is available there. I have a copy of it if anyone is interested. It is a facinating period piece of literature as well as an interesting family history resource. > >~live well, laugh often, love much~ Deb [email protected] MSN bluebonnet71 AIM ebday47 YAHOO mstx_46

Looks like there were URL changes, try these: Allen Joseph Stout's journal: http://www.math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDS/Early-Saints/AStout.html Hosea Stout's Journal: http://www.math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDS/Early-Saints/HStout.html Alice Allen

I can't remember if Peter "The Quaker's" parents were Quaker, but Peter & his wife were. I have records of Peter & Margaret's children & grandchildren in North Carolina, and early records (via microfilm at my local FHC) on Kennet & New Garden MM's in Chester Co PA/Newcastle Co DE, but have never seen a Stout listed in them. Peter & Margaret's first 2 children were born in Lancaster Co. PA, the rest in York Co PA, according to the Cane Creek MM records (NC). Those same records also indicate that Peter was born in Newcastle Co. DE. The Cane Creek MM records indicate that Peter was "received on request" at the Cane Creek MM (Orange Co NC) on 8m-7-1762. Margaret & 3 daughters were "received on certificate" from the Warrington MM on the same date. When one is "received on request," it could mean that he hadn't been a member before, but was requesting membership. It could also have meant that he didn't have a transferring membership certificate from the old MM (Monthly Meeting) to the new. I've not tried to research in Warrington MM records as of yet. Most of my husband's Quaker families were from Chester Co PA and/or Newcastle Co. DE. I have the same URL for the Allen Stout journal, & also get a "page not found" message, or something like that. There's also a journal for his brother Hosea, but Allen's is much more informative. My husband is a descendant of Peter & Margaret's youngest daughter Rachel & her husband, John Allen. Alice Allen ----- Original Message ----- <snip> > > Sameul Stout (Generation 4, above) was born in Dragon's Run, DE, which was presumably near New Castle. Does anyone know where it was? Was he also a Quaker? Are there Quaker records from that area at that time? > > > Connie Larkey Ace > [email protected] > > > > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ==== > > >

Looking for any relatives of Henry Stout - married to Florence (Sanders) Stout Lived in and around Floral, Ark. Bur. at Henderson Cem. Pangburn, Ark. I know that they are both dead as they were born in the very late 1800's . They had these children: Merle (Stout) Marsh born 1919, married to Adrian Marsh. Both are buried at Henderson Cem., Pangburn, Ark. Raymond G. Stout, buried in Wichita, KS. I know that Raymond G. Stout had three children who probably live in the area of Wichita, KS. Any help in locating this family would be appreciated. Thanks. Janice Sanders Callahan (near St. Louis)

I've listed the direct line along the left edge with spouse to the right, except for Jonathan and Mary who I tried to center over their two sons. I'll start my line here, what's previous should be obvious. Jonathan STOUT (1706-1788) m. Anne BOLLEN David STOUT m. Elizabeth LARRISON Jonathan STOUT m. Mary LEIGH Andrew STOUT (1728-1807) m. Sarah STOUT-MORGAN ( - ) Ruth STOUT (1780-1840) m. Amos HART Andrew Stout HART (1804-1891) m. Florina H. WHIPPLE John P. HART (1854-1904) m. Mary Elizabeth ODELL Fred J. HART (1880-1955) m. Florence Frances MARKS Frederick Allan HART (1922-1996) m. Juanita Bonnaire FRANCIS William Frederick HART (1951-) And don't give me a hard time about Andrew and Sarah being first cousins because I really don't want to hear about it. My HART and STOUT lines are firmly entangled. My ggg-aunt Ure Sarah HART married Charles G. STOUT, son of Jesse STOUT and Abigail LOTT. My gg-uncle Amos M. HART married Cornelia W. FOSTER, granddaughter of Peter Lott STOUT and Waite LUTHER. And Joseph S. HART, nephew of my ggg-gf Amos HART, married Theodosia STOUT, daughter of Jesse STOUT and Abigail LOTT. ---- Bill [email protected]

Hi, Thought this would be a good time to see if anyone could help me out a bit on the brick wall that hit me. I've been told that a Sarah STOUT, d/o Peter and Rachel STOUT, married my Richmond SINGLETON (of Washington Co., VA), but I've been unable to locate a marriage record. Here's what I have found and am wondering if she connects to this family. James S. and David STOUT were brothers as far as I can tell by working the early VA census records. David disappears, but James moves up to Washington Co., VA where he marries and has a family. I'm wondering Rachel was their sister. James S. STOUT, b. ca. 1795, Grayson Co., VA (source marriage record) married first to Phebe SHORT in 1826, Washington Co., VA. He married 2nd to Julia Ann K. SIMMS on 4 Dec 1872, Washington Co., VA. On one of his marriage records he stated that his parents were Peter and Rachel STOUT of PA. Does anyone have any information on Peter and Rachel STOUT and their children? Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance, Neva STOUT BRYANT

Does anyone recognize this STOUT? ISAAC STOUT born about 1815 N.C. He married twice, first wife unknown, 2nd named Sarah. In 1860 census he was in WISE CO. VA with the family of John GUY. In 1870 Isaac was living (with widow of John GUY) in Johnson Co. TN. His widow Sarah STOUT found in 1900 Census of Washington Co. VA. Have not found Isaac in 1850 or 1880 census records. His children from 1860 Census were: Edward J. STOUT b. about 1858 (called James F. in 1870 Census) Canada Stout b. abt 1860 His children from 1870 Census James H (or M) Stout b. about 1860 John Abram STOUT born Sep 1862 NC (or TN) died 1937 and buried Carter Co. TN - John Abram Stout married (1) Rebecca Ann GUY in Watauga Co. NC Elizabeth Stout b. abt 1866 TN Mary Stout born Oct 1870 TN Silas STOUT b. Nov 1878 d. 1965 Jerry Stout [email protected]<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

In the message below it says, that David, one of Richard & Penelope STOUT's children, was born in 1669 and was the youngest child. Does anyone know this birthdate is based on actual primary source data or just a guess? In fact, are there any actual birthdates known for any of Richard & Penelope STOUT's children? All the birthdates I have seen for them appear just to be "guesses" or "circa" or "about" dates! Do any of them have gravestones with birthdates on them or death dates with age at death, etc.? - Jack Mount http://dizzy.library.arizona.edu/users/mount/stout.html -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: My notes on Penelope Stout - NOT MY RESEARCH What with all the talk about Penelope Stout and her history, I am sharing notes I have taken from several places regarding her. This is not my research so if you use it, please do not give me credit. I have just gathered it from many places. Kathleen Burnett Newspaper article - Newspaper name and time of publication unknown, author was John T. Cunningham ------------ THE STORY OF PENELOPE STOUT ----------- There is cause to dispute the traditional claim that Penelope vanPrincis Stout of Monmouth County lived to a mature 110 years before she died in 1712, but no one can deny that for indomitable will to live and in number of descendants Penelope has had few equals. Penelopes's story is obscured slightly by discrepanceies in the dates of her birth and other occurrences in her life, but consider first the narrative as it is usually told. Born in Holland (in 1602 according to the usual version,) Penelope vanPrincis joined her young husband and other Dutch settlers headed for New Amsterdam in 1620. Violent storms caught their ship, drove it off course and finally wrecked it off Sandy Hook. --- ON THE BEACH --- All survived, and the passengers and crew set off for New Amsterdam on foot, leaving Penelope on the beach to nurse her desperately ill husband (whose name was never recorded by Penelope and all of the large brood she would later rear.) Indians found the Dutch couple on the beach, killed the husband and left Penelope viciously hacked. The young widow lay unconscious, her skull fractured, her left arm so mangled that it would never again be normal and her abdomen slashed open. Somehow she revived and crawled into a hollow tree, where two Indians found her several days later. ---- SHE PRAYED --- Penelope prayed that they might end her misery and the younger Indian was willing to oblige. The older Indian dissented, carried her over his shoulder to camp, and there nursed her back to health. She stayed with the Indians, working, learning their language and their ways. Some of her shipwrecked friends returned after a time and asked the Indians to give her up. Penelope's Indian benefactor said he would let the young woman decide for herself. Penelope decided to leave, "very much to the surprise of this good Indian," according to Frank Stocktons's version. About two years later Penelope met Richard Stout who had left Nottingham, England, because of parental disapproval of his love affair with a girl they considered socially inferior. He enlisted in the navy, served for seven years and left ship in New Amsterdam when his enlistment ended. Penelope vanPrincis and Richard Stout were married in 1624 (according to tradition), when she was 22 and Richard was 40. Some time after, they moved to Middletown, where through the years their family grew and prospered. Several years after the Stouts came to Middletown, Penelope's old Indian benefactor called on her to warn of an impending attack by his tribe. Penelope and her children fled in a canoe, but Richard Stout and his neighbors stood up to the Indians and argued them out of an attack. So the Stouts lived on into the 18th century. Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questioned the time sequence in a study he made of the Delaware branch of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. This logic seems sound. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620 and certainly there was no Middletown at the time when the Stout allegedly moved over. Advancing all dates 20 years, however, makes New Amsterdam, Middletown and all else fall in line. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birh date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Speaking of the mother, Dr. Streets commented drily: "No medical man, it is safe to say, ever knew of such a case." Penelope vanPrincis Stout died in 1712, either at the age of 110, if you believe traditional accounts, or at the age of 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. Before dying, Mrs. Stout saw her seven sons and three daughters multiplied into 492 other descendants Penelope Stout - First Lady of Monmouth One of the best known chapters of [Monmouth's] early history is the story of Penelope Stout, believed to be the first white woman to set foot on [Monmouth] county soil. During the first half of the 17th century - the exact date is unknown - a ship from Holland was wrecked on Sandy Hook. Among those aboard was Penelope Van Princis, whose husband had become ill on the long sea voyage. The passengers and crew reached shore safely, but hearing of an Indian attack they set out on foot for New York (New Amsterdam), leaving the sick man and his wife behind. Smith's History of New Jersey, published in 1765, relates that a party of Indians found the couple and immediately killed the man. They then mangled the woman, and left her for dead. After hiding for several days in a hollow tree, Penelope was found by a friendly Indian who nursed her back to health. A rescue party found her and brought her to New Amsterdam - now New York - and a short time later she married an Englishman, Richard Stout. Penelope and Richard later returned to New Jersey and had 10 children. The nameless Indian who saved Penelope Stout's life was a frequent visitor and friend. According to the tale, he later alerted the community to a potential confrontation with another band of marauding natives, probably from New York. Most accounts agree that Penelope lived to be 110 and had some 502 descendants at the time of her death, in either 1712 or 1732. Many of her descendants still live in the county. Penelope's story is told at the Spy House Museum Complex in Port Monmouth, New Jersey. Richard Stout, a son of John and Elizabeth (Bee or Gee) Stout, was born in Nottinghamshire, England about 1715. He joined the British Navy and was discharged at New Amsterdam, now New York, about 1640. Richard was one of thirty nine people who founded a settlement at Graves End, Long Island, in 1644. That year, he married Penelope (Kent) Van Princin. Penelope Kent was probably born about 1622 in England. Her father is believed to have been a Puritan Baptist Separatist who was banished from his church and who fled to Holland with his family. Penelope married a man named Van Princin in Amsterdam. In 1640, Penelope and her husband took ship with a group of emigrants to America. The ship was wrecked at Sandy Hook, New Jersey. Many of the passengers traveled overland to New Amsterdam, but Penelope husband was ill and could not travel, so they remained near the wreck site. The little encampment was attacked by Indians, who killed Penelope's husband and left her for dead with a fractured skull, a hacked shoulder and a gash in her body that allowed her intestines to protrude. Penelope survived alone for several days until two Indian men came by. The older of the two carried her to his village and sewed up her wounds with a fish bone needle and vegetable fibers. Penelope recovered and lived with the Indians, doing squaw's work and sharing their life. In 1644, a group of white men came to the Indian village and offered to buy the white woman that they had heard of. Penelope's captor asked if she wished to go with the whites and was permitted to do so. In 1664, an Indian came to warn Penelope of a planned Indian attack on the settlement of Grave's end. The Indians did attack and the forewarned settlers were able to defend themselves and put the Indians to flight. Richard Stout walked into the open and demanded a parley. After a conference, the whites and Indians agreed to a truce and a two day ceremonial to celebrate the treaty. The white agreed to buy the lands they had settled on and were never attacked again. The date of purchase from the Indians was January 25, 1664. In 1668, Richard and his family joined with others in forming the first Baptist Church of New Jersey. Richard's will was approved in October 1705 and is on file in the office of the Secretary of State at Trenton, New Jersey. Penelope died in 1732. Unknown newspaper "The Story of Penelope Stout" copy found at Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728 Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questions the time sequence in a study he made of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birth date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Penelope Van Princis Stout died in 1712, either at age 110 if you believe traditional accounts, or at age 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. ******************************************************* The following sources and information are from: "Early Vital Records of Ohio: - copied by the Daughters of the American Revolution - Complied under the Direction of Miss Irma B. Gobel. This booklet was found at the DAR Library in Washington, DC. "There are still hollow Buttonwood trees near Middlestown as were there in the time when Penelope is said to have taken refuge in one." The Op Dyck Genealogy, page 148, "Among the settlers appear Richard Stout, Samuel Holmes, and others whose descendants in New York and New Jersey have number by thousands. The famous Penelope Prince appears on the records as having remarked that, "the wife of Ambrose London did milk the cows of Thomas Applegate." "She" being questioned knowledged her fault in so speaking, and being sorry for her words, she spoke satisfaction on both sides." **************************************************************************** The following articles, 1 to 3 pages, that can be found in the Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728. Library is open Wednesday - Sunday : 10 AM to 4 PM - phone 908-462-1466. Newspaper, "The Monmouth Inquirer", Thursday, 20 May 1886. Article "First Families of Monmouth, Stout Family" by Edwin Salter. Unknown newspaper and unknown date, "The Story of Penelope Stout" Asbury Park Press, Aug 10, 1980, page A3, "Stout family marks its 52nd reunion at Middletown Church." Talks about and has picture of Penelope Stout First Lady of Monmouth medallion. "The Penelope Stout House, also known as the John S. Hendrickson House", Everett Road, Holmdel, NJ. (Note there is a Holmes - Hendrickson House, Longstreet Road, Holmdel, NJ. This house is part of Monmouth County Historical Association Museums and is open May - October.) "The Mother of the Stouts" by Mrs. Therese W. Seabrook. "My tradition has come through only two persons from Penelope, herself, and I think it more correct than much that is told. The second son, Richard, had a son, John, who was therefore grandson of Penelope. When his grandmother was about 85 years old, he took her on his horse to visit one of her children and when he helped her to alight she insisted upon his putting his hand through the pocket hole of her garment to feel the seam which the Indian sewed up. He was young and bashful but she said, "Johnny, you can tell it to your grandchildren because you will know it's true, and they will tell it to their grandchildren." My grandmother was one of the grandchildren to whom he told the story, and when she told it to me, she would say, "and so I tell it to you in the language, chiefly, in which I heard it." ==== STOUT Mailing List ====

My Stout line begins with my 9th ggf: 1. John Staught/Stout (b. abt 1580) m. Elizabeth Bee/Gee (b. abt. 1589) 2. Richaed Stout (b. 1615) m. Penelope Kent/Van Prinz/Van Prinzen 3. Peter Stout (b. 1654) m. Mary Bullen/Bollen/Bullaigne (b. 1655) 4. Sameul Stout (b. 1676) m. Margaret Price (b. 1678) 5. Peter "the Quaker" Stout (b. 4/14/1715) m. Margaret Cypert/Siepert/Siber/Seyboot (b. 6/22/1716) 6. Samuel Stout (. 4/10/1740) m. Rachael Chauncey (b. 8/6/1741) 7. Joseph Stout, Esq. (b. 7/17/1773) m. Anna Amith (b. 9/8/1780) 8. John Larkey (b. 12/25/1807) m. Lydia Roena Stout (b. 1/3/1820): Lydia Stout was my gggm, born in Wilmington, Clinton Co. Ohio. Her father was from the Cane Creek community in NC, so may have been Quaker. Certainly his parents and most most of his family were. Lydia's brothers, Allen Jospeh and Hosea , was early Mormons and part of the initial migration to Utah. Allen kept a journal during the years 1815 - 1848 in which not only detailed his experience during the formative years of the Mormon church, but also gave some valuable clues about the family ancestry. A copy of the journal used to be available on the net (http://math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDSEarly-Saints/stout,aj) but I'm not sure it it still is available there. I have a copy of it if anyone is interested. It is a facinating period piece of literature as well as an interesting family history resource. Sameul Stout (Generation 4, above) was born in Dragon's Run, DE, which was presumably near New Castle. Does anyone know where it was? Was he also a Quaker? Are there Quaker records from that area at that time? Connie Larkey Ace [email protected]

Researching and looking for any information on Reuben Stout born New Jersey 1813 and died 1877 Monticello, White County, Indiana. Reuben was married to Hannah Hamilton December 24, 1835. Thanks! Jan

I'm DEFINITELY researching Stouts with that time and place parameter....been running into a big dead end for over a dozen years now. My info is at web page: http://members.aol.com/ftnkid/anna.htm [email protected] wrote: > Is there anyone researching any Stouts from Ok. or Indian Territory. > My line is from there researching Robert L. Stout born in Indian Territory > Abt. 1870. > > Mike Stout > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ====

Richard - Penelope David - Rebecca Ashton Joseph - Martha Reeder Job - Nancy Bray Job - Mary Margaret Richards Martin - Mary Van Horn Abram J. - Eliza Locker James L. - Maggie Powers Albert Edward - Nellie Anderson William Harold - Francis Cutler Donald Dean - Carol Wishmeyer Bob

What with all the talk about Penelope Stout and her history, I am sharing notes I have taken from several places regarding her. This is not my research so if you use it, please do not give me credit. I have just gathered it from many places. Kathleen Burnett Newspaper article - Newspaper name and time of publication unknown, author was John T. Cunningham ------------ THE STORY OF PENELOPE STOUT ----------- There is cause to dispute the traditional claim that Penelope VanPrincis Stout of Monmouth County lived to a mature 110 years before she died in 1712, but no one can deny that for indomitable will to live and in number of descendants Penelope has had few equals. Penelope's story is obscured slightly by discrepancies in the dates of her birth and other occurrences in her life, but consider first the narrative as it is usually told. Born in Holland (in 1602 according to the usual version,) Penelope VanPrincis joined her young husband and other Dutch settlers headed for New Amsterdam in 1620. Violent storms caught their ship, drove it off course and finally wrecked it off Sandy Hook. --- ON THE BEACH --- All survived, and the passengers and crew set off for New Amsterdam on foot, leaving Penelope on the beach to nurse her desperately ill husband (whose name was never recorded by Penelope and all of the large brood she would later rear.) Indians found the Dutch couple on the beach, killed the husband and left Penelope viciously hacked. The young widow lay unconscious, her skull fractured, her left arm so mangled that it would never again be normal and her abdomen slashed open. Somehow she revived and crawled into a hollow tree, where two Indians found her several days later. ---- SHE PRAYED --- Penelope prayed that they might end her misery and the younger Indian was willing to oblige. The older Indian dissented, carried her over his shoulder to camp, and there nursed her back to health. She stayed with the Indians, working, learning their language and their ways. Some of her shipwrecked friends returned after a time and asked the Indians to give her up. Penelope Indian benefactor said he would let the young woman decide for herself. Penelope decided to leave, "very much to the surprise of this good Indian," according to Frank Stocktons's version. About two years later Penelope met Richard Stout who had left Nottingham, England, because of parental disapproval of his love affair with a girl they considered socially inferior. He enlisted in the navy, served for seven years and left ship in New Amsterdam when his enlistment ended. Penelope VanPrincis and Richard Stout were married in 1624 (according to tradition), when she was 22 and Richard was 40. Some time after, they moved to Middletown, where through the years their family grew and prospered. Several years after the Stouts came to Middletown, Penelope's old Indian benefactor called on her to warn of an impending attack by his tribe. Penelope and her children fled in a canoe, but Richard Stout and his neighbors stood up to the Indians and argued them out of an attack. So the Stouts lived on into the 18th century. Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questioned the time sequence in a study he made of the Delaware branch of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. This logic seems sound. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620 and certainly there was no Middletown at the time when the Stout allegedly moved over. Advancing all dates 20 years, however, makes New Amsterdam, Middletown and all else fall in line. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birth date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Speaking of the mother, Dr. Streets commented drily: "No medical man, it is safe to say, ever knew of such a case." Penelope VanPrincis Stout died in 1712, either at the age of 110, if you believe traditional accounts, or at the age of 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. Before dying, Mrs. Stout saw her seven sons and three daughters multiplied into 492 other descendants Penelope Stout - First Lady of Monmouth One of the best known chapters of [Monmouth's] early history is the story of Penelope Stout, believed to be the first white woman to set foot on [Monmouth] county soil. During the first half of the 17th century - the exact date is unknown - a ship from Holland was wrecked on Sandy Hook. Among those aboard was Penelope Van Princis, whose husband had become ill on the long sea voyage. The passengers and crew reached shore safely, but hearing of an Indian attack they set out on foot for New York (New Amsterdam), leaving the sick man and his wife behind. Smith's History of New Jersey, published in 1765, relates that a party of Indians found the couple and immediately killed the man. They then mangled the woman, and left her for dead. After hiding for several days in a hollow tree, Penelope was found by a friendly Indian who nursed her back to health. A rescue party found her and brought her to New Amsterdam - now New York - and a short time later she married an Englishman, Richard Stout. Penelope and Richard later returned to New Jersey and had 10 children. The nameless Indian who saved Penelope Stout's life was a frequent visitor and friend. According to the tale, he later alerted the community to a potential confrontation with another band of marauding natives, probably from New York. Most accounts agree that Penelope lived to be 110 and had some 502 descendants at the time of her death, in either 1712 or 1732. Many of her descendants still live in the county. Penelope's story is told at the Spy House Museum Complex in Port Monmouth, New Jersey. Richard Stout, a son of John and Elizabeth (Bee or Gee) Stout, was born in Nottinghamshire, England about 1715. He joined the British Navy and was discharged at New Amsterdam, now New York, about 1640. Richard was one of thirty nine people who founded a settlement at Graves End, Long Island, in 1644. That year, he married Penelope (Kent) Van Princis. Penelope Kent was probably born about 1622 in England. Her father is believed to have been a Puritan Baptist Separatist who was banished from his church and who fled to Holland with his family. Penelope married a man named Van Princis in Amsterdam. In 1640, Penelope and her husband took ship with a group of emigrants to America. The ship was wrecked at Sandy Hook, New Jersey. Many of the passengers traveled overland to New Amsterdam, but Penelope husband was ill and could not travel, so they remained near the wreck site. The little encampment was attacked by Indians, who killed Penelope's husband and left her for dead with a fractured skull, a hacked shoulder and a gash in her body that allowed her intestines to protrude. Penelope survived alone for several days until two Indian men came by. The older of the two carried her to his village and sewed up her wounds with a fish bone needle and vegetable fibers. Penelope recovered and lived with the Indians, doing squaw's work and sharing their life. In 1644, a group of white men came to the Indian village and offered to buy the white woman that they had heard of. Penelope's captor asked if she wished to go with the whites and was permitted to do so. In 1664, an Indian came to warn Penelope of a planned Indian attack on the settlement of Grave's end. The Indians did attack and the forewarned settlers were able to defend themselves and put the Indians to flight. Richard Stout walked into the open and demanded a parley. After a conference, the whites and Indians agreed to a truce and a two day ceremonial to celebrate the treaty. The white agreed to buy the lands they had settled on and were never attacked again. The date of purchase from the Indians was January 25, 1664. In 1668, Richard and his family joined with others in forming the first Baptist Church of New Jersey. Richard's will was approved in October 1705 and is on file in the office of the Secretary of State at Trenton, New Jersey. Penelope died in 1732. Unknown newspaper "The Story of Penelope Stout" copy found at Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728 Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questions the time sequence in a study he made of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birth date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Penelope Van Princis Stout died in 1712, either at age 110 if you believe traditional accounts, or at age 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. ******************************************************* The following sources and information are from: "Early Vital Records of Ohio: - copied by the Daughters of the American Revolution - Complied under the Direction of Miss Irma B. Gobel. This booklet was found at the DAR Library in Washington, DC. "There are still hollow Buttonwood trees near Middlestown as were there in the time when Penelope is said to have taken refuge in one." The Op Dyck Genealogy, page 148, "Among the settlers appear Richard Stout, Samuel Holmes, and others whose descendants in New York and New Jersey have number by thousands. The famous Penelope Prince appears on the records as having remarked that, "the wife of Ambrose London did milk the cows of Thomas Applegate." "She" being questioned knowledge her fault in so speaking, and being sorry for her words, she spoke satisfaction on both sides." **************************************************************************** The following articles, 1 to 3 pages, that can be found in the Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728. Library is open Wednesday - Sunday : 10 AM to 4 PM - phone 908-462-1466. Newspaper, "The Monmouth Inquirer", Thursday, 20 May 1886. Article "First Families of Monmouth, Stout Family" by Edwin Salter. Unknown newspaper and unknown date, "The Story of Penelope Stout" Asbury Park Press, Aug. 10, 1980, page A3, "Stout family marks its 52nd reunion at Middletown Church." Talks about and has picture of Penelope Stout First Lady of Monmouth medallion. "The Penelope Stout House, also known as the John S. Hendrickson House", Everett Road, Holmdel, NJ. (Note there is a Holmes - Hendrickson House, Longstreet Road, Holmdel, NJ. This house is part of Monmouth County Historical Association Museums and is open May - October.) "The Mother of the Stouts" by Mrs. Therese W. Seabrook. "My tradition has come through only two persons from Penelope, herself, and I think it more correct than much that is told. The second son, Richard, had a son, John, who was therefore grandson of Penelope. When his grandmother was about 85 years old, he took her on his horse to visit one of her children and when he helped her to alight she insisted upon his putting his hand through the pocket hole of her garment to feel the seam which the Indian sewed up. He was young and bashful but she said, "Johnny, you can tell it to your grandchildren because you will know it's true, and they will tell it to their grandchildren." My grandmother was one of the grandchildren to whom he told the story, and when she told it to me, she would say, "and so I tell it to you in the language, chiefly, in which I heard it."

What with all the talk about Penelope Stout and her history, I am sharing notes I have taken from several places regarding her. This is not my research so if you use it, please do not give me credit. I have just gathered it from many places. Kathleen Burnett Newspaper article - Newspaper name and time of publication unknown, author was John T. Cunningham ------------ THE STORY OF PENELOPE STOUT ----------- There is cause to dispute the traditional claim that Penelope vanPrincis Stout of Monmouth County lived to a mature 110 years before she died in 1712, but no one can deny that for indomitable will to live and in number of descendants Penelope has had few equals. Penelopes's story is obscured slightly by discrepanceies in the dates of her birth and other occurrences in her life, but consider first the narrative as it is usually told. Born in Holland (in 1602 according to the usual version,) Penelope vanPrincis joined her young husband and other Dutch settlers headed for New Amsterdam in 1620. Violent storms caught their ship, drove it off course and finally wrecked it off Sandy Hook. --- ON THE BEACH --- All survived, and the passengers and crew set off for New Amsterdam on foot, leaving Penelope on the beach to nurse her desperately ill husband (whose name was never recorded by Penelope and all of the large brood she would later rear.) Indians found the Dutch couple on the beach, killed the husband and left Penelope viciously hacked. The young widow lay unconscious, her skull fractured, her left arm so mangled that it would never again be normal and her abdomen slashed open. Somehow she revived and crawled into a hollow tree, where two Indians found her several days later. ---- SHE PRAYED --- Penelope prayed that they might end her misery and the younger Indian was willing to oblige. The older Indian dissented, carried her over his shoulder to camp, and there nursed her back to health. She stayed with the Indians, working, learning their language and their ways. Some of her shipwrecked friends returned after a time and asked the Indians to give her up. Penelope's Indian benefactor said he would let the young woman decide for herself. Penelope decided to leave, "very much to the surprise of this good Indian," according to Frank Stocktons's version. About two years later Penelope met Richard Stout who had left Nottingham, England, because of parental disapproval of his love affair with a girl they considered socially inferior. He enlisted in the navy, served for seven years and left ship in New Amsterdam when his enlistment ended. Penelope vanPrincis and Richard Stout were married in 1624 (according to tradition), when she was 22 and Richard was 40. Some time after, they moved to Middletown, where through the years their family grew and prospered. Several years after the Stouts came to Middletown, Penelope's old Indian benefactor called on her to warn of an impending attack by his tribe. Penelope and her children fled in a canoe, but Richard Stout and his neighbors stood up to the Indians and argued them out of an attack. So the Stouts lived on into the 18th century. Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questioned the time sequence in a study he made of the Delaware branch of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. This logic seems sound. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620 and certainly there was no Middletown at the time when the Stout allegedly moved over. Advancing all dates 20 years, however, makes New Amsterdam, Middletown and all else fall in line. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birh date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Speaking of the mother, Dr. Streets commented drily: "No medical man, it is safe to say, ever knew of such a case." Penelope vanPrincis Stout died in 1712, either at the age of 110, if you believe traditional accounts, or at the age of 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. Before dying, Mrs. Stout saw her seven sons and three daughters multiplied into 492 other descendants Penelope Stout - First Lady of Monmouth One of the best known chapters of [Monmouth's] early history is the story of Penelope Stout, believed to be the first white woman to set foot on [Monmouth] county soil. During the first half of the 17th century - the exact date is unknown - a ship from Holland was wrecked on Sandy Hook. Among those aboard was Penelope Van Princis, whose husband had become ill on the long sea voyage. The passengers and crew reached shore safely, but hearing of an Indian attack they set out on foot for New York (New Amsterdam), leaving the sick man and his wife behind. Smith's History of New Jersey, published in 1765, relates that a party of Indians found the couple and immediately killed the man. They then mangled the woman, and left her for dead. After hiding for several days in a hollow tree, Penelope was found by a friendly Indian who nursed her back to health. A rescue party found her and brought her to New Amsterdam - now New York - and a short time later she married an Englishman, Richard Stout. Penelope and Richard later returned to New Jersey and had 10 children. The nameless Indian who saved Penelope Stout's life was a frequent visitor and friend. According to the tale, he later alerted the community to a potential confrontation with another band of marauding natives, probably from New York. Most accounts agree that Penelope lived to be 110 and had some 502 descendants at the time of her death, in either 1712 or 1732. Many of her descendants still live in the county. Penelope's story is told at the Spy House Museum Complex in Port Monmouth, New Jersey. Richard Stout, a son of John and Elizabeth (Bee or Gee) Stout, was born in Nottinghamshire, England about 1715. He joined the British Navy and was discharged at New Amsterdam, now New York, about 1640. Richard was one of thirty nine people who founded a settlement at Graves End, Long Island, in 1644. That year, he married Penelope (Kent) Van Princin. Penelope Kent was probably born about 1622 in England. Her father is believed to have been a Puritan Baptist Separatist who was banished from his church and who fled to Holland with his family. Penelope married a man named Van Princin in Amsterdam. In 1640, Penelope and her husband took ship with a group of emigrants to America. The ship was wrecked at Sandy Hook, New Jersey. Many of the passengers traveled overland to New Amsterdam, but Penelope husband was ill and could not travel, so they remained near the wreck site. The little encampment was attacked by Indians, who killed Penelope's husband and left her for dead with a fractured skull, a hacked shoulder and a gash in her body that allowed her intestines to protrude. Penelope survived alone for several days until two Indian men came by. The older of the two carried her to his village and sewed up her wounds with a fish bone needle and vegetable fibers. Penelope recovered and lived with the Indians, doing squaw's work and sharing their life. In 1644, a group of white men came to the Indian village and offered to buy the white woman that they had heard of. Penelope's captor asked if she wished to go with the whites and was permitted to do so. In 1664, an Indian came to warn Penelope of a planned Indian attack on the settlement of Grave's end. The Indians did attack and the forewarned settlers were able to defend themselves and put the Indians to flight. Richard Stout walked into the open and demanded a parley. After a conference, the whites and Indians agreed to a truce and a two day ceremonial to celebrate the treaty. The white agreed to buy the lands they had settled on and were never attacked again. The date of purchase from the Indians was January 25, 1664. In 1668, Richard and his family joined with others in forming the first Baptist Church of New Jersey. Richard's will was approved in October 1705 and is on file in the office of the Secretary of State at Trenton, New Jersey. Penelope died in 1732. Unknown newspaper "The Story of Penelope Stout" copy found at Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728 Dr. Thomas Hale Streets questions the time sequence in a study he made of the Stout family in 1915. He said that all dates in recorded accounts were about 20 years too early, thus making the date of the shipwreck about 1640 rather than 1620 and making the date of the marriage to Richard Stout about 1644 rather than 1624. For example, there was no New Amsterdam in 1620. His most telling rebuttal hinged on the known birth date of Penelope's 10th and last child, David, born in 1669. That would have made Mrs. Stout a mother at age 67 and Richard a father at 85. Penelope Van Princis Stout died in 1712, either at age 110 if you believe traditional accounts, or at age 90 if Dr. Streets is correct. ******************************************************* The following sources and information are from: "Early Vital Records of Ohio: - copied by the Daughters of the American Revolution - Complied under the Direction of Miss Irma B. Gobel. This booklet was found at the DAR Library in Washington, DC. "There are still hollow Buttonwood trees near Middlestown as were there in the time when Penelope is said to have taken refuge in one." The Op Dyck Genealogy, page 148, "Among the settlers appear Richard Stout, Samuel Holmes, and others whose descendants in New York and New Jersey have number by thousands. The famous Penelope Prince appears on the records as having remarked that, "the wife of Ambrose London did milk the cows of Thomas Applegate." "She" being questioned knowledged her fault in so speaking, and being sorry for her words, she spoke satisfaction on both sides." **************************************************************************** The following articles, 1 to 3 pages, that can be found in the Monmouth County Historical Association Library, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ 07728. Library is open Wednesday - Sunday : 10 AM to 4 PM - phone 908-462-1466. Newspaper, "The Monmouth Inquirer", Thursday, 20 May 1886. Article "First Families of Monmouth, Stout Family" by Edwin Salter. Unknown newspaper and unknown date, "The Story of Penelope Stout" Asbury Park Press, Aug 10, 1980, page A3, "Stout family marks its 52nd reunion at Middletown Church." Talks about and has picture of Penelope Stout First Lady of Monmouth medallion. "The Penelope Stout House, also known as the John S. Hendrickson House", Everett Road, Holmdel, NJ. (Note there is a Holmes - Hendrickson House, Longstreet Road, Holmdel, NJ. This house is part of Monmouth County Historical Association Museums and is open May - October.) "The Mother of the Stouts" by Mrs. Therese W. Seabrook. "My tradition has come through only two persons from Penelope, herself, and I think it more correct than much that is told. The second son, Richard, had a son, John, who was therefore grandson of Penelope. When his grandmother was about 85 years old, he took her on his horse to visit one of her children and when he helped her to alight she insisted upon his putting his hand through the pocket hole of her garment to feel the seam which the Indian sewed up. He was young and bashful but she said, "Johnny, you can tell it to your grandchildren because you will know it's true, and they will tell it to their grandchildren." My grandmother was one of the grandchildren to whom he told the story, and when she told it to me, she would say, "and so I tell it to you in the language, chiefly, in which I heard it."

Hello all David Stout from Silsbee Texas.I have been trying on and off for about 20 years to make a connection from my line to Richard and Penelope.A few years ago after they were able to prove that Thomas Jefferson had children with Sally Hemmings through I believe the Y or male chromosome I thought "why can"t I do the same thing?".So with the help of A.C. Stout of Beaumont Texas who is a direct descendent of Richard and Penelope I had a DNA test run to see if I was indeed related .Much to my disappointment I was not.Now there could have been adoptions and what have you along the way, but it does not look like I am related.So with my tree I will have to start backwards David Stout b 1956 Henry Stout b 1931 John William Stout 1885-1958 Jesse Stout 1857-1927 Jesse Stout1815-1901 and finally Abram Stout who died about 1845 in Vicksburgh Mississippi.I am not sure where Abram came to Vicksburgh from or when he was born.If anyone out there can prove beyond a reasonable ! doubt the parentage of Abram I will give a 500 dollar reward.David Stout

With Charles in the household coming from North Carolina, and with Jasper being born in Indiana, I would bet the family was part of the Quaker branch of the tree. Have you checked any of the Quaker records for North Carolina? There was quite a migration following a decision by the Quaker to free their slaves. This was made illegal by the state legislature, so there was a mass migration to Ohio and Indiana. Kim Day Boise, Idaho USA > -----Original Message----- > From: yardmom [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: STOUT- Iowa > > > FiestaJasper Stout b.abt 1829 Indiana m. Eleanor Fortner 1856 > Mahaska County, IA > via 1860 Kirkville, Mahaska Co, IA census children are as follows > C.F.S.A.E. -f-(Catherine?) age 2 > Margaret J. 3/12 > Also living at the residence, > Charles Stout b. abt 1800 N. Carolina > Sarah (wife) > daughter Rachel age 19 during 1860 census b. Indiana > > Jasper and Eleanor lived in this county during the 1870 census as > well, Cedar Township with children: (full names compliments of > later census records) > S.E.C(?) f- age 12 > M. (Margaret) 10 > E.C. (f) 8 (Edith?) > S. (Savannah) (f) 6 > M.V. Minnie (f) 3 > Jn (m) John 7/12 > > 1880 Census shows them in Fremont, Cedar Township with the > following children at home: > Savannah > Minnie V. > John > Fred G. (m) 8 > Benjamin C. (m) 5 > > Daughter Kate (Catherine?) married Franklin (Francis) Yeoman in > 1876, moved to Greene, IA > Daughter Edith married a Mr. Saner and lived in Carthage, IL > Daughter Minnie married a Mr. Bickford and lived in Eddyville, IA > Brothers John, Fred and Benjamin all lived in Sioux City, IA > > Any help with this line would be appreciated! > Rebecca Seehusen > > > > > ==== STOUT Mailing List ==== > > >

FiestaJasper Stout b.abt 1829 Indiana m. Eleanor Fortner 1856 Mahaska County, IA via 1860 Kirkville, Mahaska Co, IA census children are as follows C.F.S.A.E. -f-(Catherine?) age 2 Margaret J. 3/12 Also living at the residence, Charles Stout b. abt 1800 N. Carolina Sarah (wife) daughter Rachel age 19 during 1860 census b. Indiana Jasper and Eleanor lived in this county during the 1870 census as well, Cedar Township with children: (full names compliments of later census records) S.E.C(?) f- age 12 M. (Margaret) 10 E.C. (f) 8 (Edith?) S. (Savannah) (f) 6 M.V. Minnie (f) 3 Jn (m) John 7/12 1880 Census shows them in Fremont, Cedar Township with the following children at home: Savannah Minnie V. John Fred G. (m) 8 Benjamin C. (m) 5 Daughter Kate (Catherine?) married Franklin (Francis) Yeoman in 1876, moved to Greene, IA Daughter Edith married a Mr. Saner and lived in Carthage, IL Daughter Minnie married a Mr. Bickford and lived in Eddyville, IA Brothers John, Fred and Benjamin all lived in Sioux City, IA Any help with this line would be appreciated! Rebecca Seehusen