Hi all. OK, I am stuck. I recently found several LDS records on line and another researcher who say that Capt. John Stone who was killed by Indians which basically started the Pequot War in Connecticut, was the father of William Stone. What proof is there that he is the father of William Stone, the 3rd gov. of Maryland- born abt 1603- died 1660 in Md, who was married to Verlinda Cotton Graves. I've reviewed several histories which don't mention children-- one review said that John Stone was described by Puritans as a 'drunkard, lecher, braggart, bully and blasphemer- smuggler privateer and that he may have practiced cannibalism in the Caribbean. I'd love to learn more. Perhaps, if William was a son- this helps to understand William's stand against the puritans during his role as a leader in early Maryland. Help---- any proof out there? debbie deem (related through the William and Conway Stone line of North Carolina.)
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I am looking for the Jefferson Davis (JD) Stone line. I don't know too much other than they were from Kentucky. JD was born in 1861 in Clinton KY; died in 1939 in Hickman County KY. In 1883, JD married Mollie Frances Allison. JD's father, Joseph Henry Stone, and mother, Louisa Jane Melton, were also from Kentucky (I think). I have hit a road block. Older family members seem to think that Joseph's father, John Stone, was from Cork County, Ireland, and that he came to the US in the early 1800's. Looking for a John Stone is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I would appreciate any help out there. Staci Wittenauer
Hello List, I hoping to find some STONE connections. My Stones were in Chester, Cumberland and York County Pa. Stone, Abraham b.abt 1800 in Pa d. between 1850-1860 Lived in Chester Co. Pa right on the border of Lancaster Co. Pa from at least 1830-1850. He married Rebbeca Brower b.about 1806 in Pa. Stone, Abraham and Rebecca shown in the 1850 census. West Fallowfield Chester Co. Pa had the following children: Stone, Henry 20 ----, John 17 ----, Abraham Jr. 14 ----, Mary 12 ----, Thomas 9 ----, Rebecca 6 ----, Hannah 4 ----, Oliver A. 3 months old In 1860 I find Rebecca Stone w/o Abraham in Mechanicsburg Cumberland County, Pa Stone, Rebecca, 55 ----, Mary 20 Dress Maker ----, Thomas 18 Clerk ----, Rebecca 16 Apprentice Dressmaker ----, Hannah, 12 In Hampden Twp. Cumberland County Pa Stone, Abraham (Jr.) 23 Innkeeper ----, Lucinda 21 ***In the 1880 Census in Philadelphia, Pa...I find Abraham and Lucinda.*** 1860 Census New Cumberland, Cumberland County, Pa Stone, Henry B. 30 Hotel Keeper ----, Mary A. 29 ----, H.R. 7 F ----, O.A. 5 M In 1870 Henry B. and Mary were living in Abottstown, Adams Co. Pa. I then find them again 1880 Monaghan, York Co. Pa Stone, Henry B. 50 Born In Lancaster or Chester Co., Pa - Died 1908 York Co., Pa ----, Mary A. 49 Died 1885 York Co., Pa died 1885 York Co. Pa ----, Oliver A 24 ----, Dora F. 17 + Peter L. Lau Married: 19 Sep 1886 York Co., Pa ----, Henry 14 + Mary A. Gruver Married 14 Feb York Co Pa ----, Laura L. 11 + Edward Schrum Married on 14 Mar 1888 York Co. Pa ----, John C 8 +Minnie Snyder ----, M.A.E. 2 F If anyone knows anything about this family please contact me at mkpetrilla@aol.com Thank you, Michelle
Trena H wrote: > Perhaps I am missing something here. I have more than a passing interest in > DNA, though not normally from the genealogy angle. So what I do not > understand is how those seeking DNA testing to prove they descend from a > particular ancestor, who has been dead for 200 or more years, without > knowing his DNA, expect to actually prove it? A group of people who are > tested can prove whether or not they are from the same family/ancestor, but > if they are not following the same lines in their reseach, what happens? I > would think there would be a limit to how far back DNA research can take > you. You can only take samples from living people. Unless the plan is to > dig up our ancestors (I doubt the authorities would grant this, *just* for > general genealogy research), how else can DNA testing prove you descend from > Joe Bloggs born c1700 or whatever? > > We are somewhat lucky within our reseach, as we know back 6 generations from > myself, with our STONES, documentation from the 5th ... but in each > generation the first son has the exact same name as his father before him - > Edward, which carries down as well. From the 3rd generation before me to > the 3rd generation below me, each second son is named John ... each third > son is named Robert ... George .... Thomas ... William .. Ours' follows > this pattern to the present day. Females follow a similar pattern. Ok .. > so we know from the 5th before me .. to the 3rd after me .... but we do not > know who the siblings of our 5th & 6th great-grandparents are, or what their > birth order nor names are. Or even exactly where the men were born ... we > have unproven place for one ... but is it correct? We do not know yet. > > So how will DNA testing help in our case? By the way, our STONE line came > to Canada, from Hunts UK, c1855. We now know for sure the 5th gggf & 6th > gggf (82 yrs old in 1881, Canada census) were not born in Hunts. To confuse > matters further, the 5th gggf was not married under the name STONE, nor were > his first two sons registered at birth, as STONE, although, on his marriage > certificate, his father is a STONE. As far as I can see, we would have to > get every present day STONE, in the UK (for starters!) to be tested, not to > mention our own men here, to try to locate exactly where our line > originated. What happens if one group in the USA do not match up with any > others? How are they going to know where they belong? They would have to > convince STONEs around the world, the UK in particular to be tested too. > Again .. they can only go back to the living ... how are they going to > actually prove that this John/Edward/George/Thomas/William etc Stone, or > that John/etc etc Stone is in fact their John/etc etc Stone. There were > far too many with those names who were unrelated living in many different > areas, not only in the UK, but also in Canada, the USA, Australia and so > forth. We know (positively) there were two families of Stones living in a > small village, in NS, both of which had many of the same Christian names ... > totally unrelated. Birth order and daughters' names are what helped > separate the two families there. DNA would help present day members, who do > not know much about their lineage, to form groups ... but not any further > back, if (in our case) we did not know and have documentation, plus family > bibles to support our claims of descent. Then ... somewhere in the USA are > STONEs who descend from our line, who do not know that their ?x > great-grandfather, was not a STONE on his marriage certificate .... was he > illegitimate, then his mother married a STONE? or was illegitimate, then > his parents married each other, but his name was not legally STONE, under > British law? His *father* did come to Canada with him (+ his wife & 3 > children) .... all under the name of STONE. > So much for DNA & the STONE name in this case, if he was truly not a STONE, > genetically. Unfortunately, the other name is just as common ... BALLS. > > Warmest regards ... from an enquiring mind. > Trena ... Ontario, Canada. > > ******************************************************** > FHH Brat Reunion (1950-1965) > Visit our web site: www.kingsweb.net/fhhbrats > ********************************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Eagleson" <peagleson@adelphia.net> > To: <STONE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 12:21 PM > Subject: [STONE] Re: STONE-D Digest V02 #43 > > > > > Virginia- > > There are many Stone surname lines in the United States (and world wide) > > that we cannot connect to each other through the conventional paper trail > of > > written birth, marriage and death records. It has been demonstrated > that > > DNA tests of the male Y-chromosone can be used to trace the descendants of > a > > particular man through many generations.
I'm interested in the Md. Stones, also. My gr.gr.grandmother's maiden name was Mary Ann Stone and she was from Southern Md. She married John Bicksler and they resided in Washington, D.C. Has anyone come across this Mary Ann Stone in their research? I'm finding it very difficult to find any information pertaining to her family. Thank you for any information you may be able to provide me with. Mary Ann Swentek ----- Original Message ----- From: <gcooper@lexcominc.net> To: <STONE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [STONE] re: Stone relations > What MD Stone's, there twere two lines? > GSC > > Sassydog2@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi- I'm related to the the same stones-- I believe-- thru William Stone and > > Conway Stone (North Carolina.. Tennessee,WVA)..... I'm one of those working > > to prove definitively that these NC stones were related to the Maryland ones. > > Do you have much on that? > > debbie deem > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
GSC Can you give some more information on these 2 Stone lines. My 4th grt-grandfather Adam Stone, lived and died in Sharpsburg. Washington Co. Md in 1791. He was in Pa then moved to Md. He had eight children, Three of his sons went to the area of Lexington, Ky. The two daughters married and went to Pa and Washington D.C. The other 3 sons were last know in the Maryland area but is unknown where. The three that went to Ky remained in the Fayette Co area until they died, the majority of their descendants all stayed there too. The data I have on Adam is limited until he was in Sharpsburg. Mainly due to the fact that prior to 1781 they used the family name of Stein. Which was the German translation. Bob Stone
I missed the beginning of this message. I'm researching John Stone (Rev. War Patriot) from North Carolina and he had a son William who married Rachel Morton. William's sons eventually went to Grayson, Wythe and Montgomery Counties, VA. Any connections? If not, does anyone else out there recognize this line? Thanks. Lynn Paden
What MD Stone's, there twere two lines? GSC Sassydog2@aol.com wrote: > > Hi- I'm related to the the same stones-- I believe-- thru William Stone and > Conway Stone (North Carolina.. Tennessee,WVA)..... I'm one of those working > to prove definitively that these NC stones were related to the Maryland ones. > Do you have much on that? > debbie deem > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Hi- I'm related to the the same stones-- I believe-- thru William Stone and Conway Stone (North Carolina.. Tennessee,WVA)..... I'm one of those working to prove definitively that these NC stones were related to the Maryland ones. Do you have much on that? debbie deem
Hi Elizabeth, I too have a Thomas Stone that goes back to England. Would you be able to scan a copy for me, appreciate very much. elorag@mtayr.heartland.net
Trena, I am sorry I did not notice this the first time but I actually have a sister that lives in Whittlesey, and both my parents are buried there. If you ever need us to look up a place etc for you let me know, I know my sister will be more than happy to do so for you. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: Trena H Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:09 PM To: STONE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STONE] found photos, any takers Hello Elizabeth, I am interested as well, as my STONESs came to Canada from Yaxley, which is only about 5 miles from Peterborough. The name Thomas is frequently used within our family, too, so do wonder if could possibly be my 2x gr. grandfather's brother, who perhaps wrote the words/or a cousin/or a nephew. Also there are both BELLs and BALLs within this family, all in the UK, around Peterborough, Yaxley, Whittlesey and Huntingdon. Pity we do not know what [*your*] Thomas looked like, as we do have photos of our 2x gr.grandfather, mostly in his mid years, plus some of each of his 7 sons, at different stages of their lives. Nevertheless could you possibly scan the photo, sending it to me? Thank you, if you can. Warmest regards, Trena. ******************************************************** FHH Brat Reunion (1950-1965) Visit our web site: www.kingsweb.net/fhhbrats ********************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELIZABETH EVERS" <eevers@msn.com> To: <STONE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: [STONE] found photos, any takers > Now to where this site comes in, one of the photos is of building in Peterborough England on the back is written "Mr. And Mrs. Stone from their affectionate son, Thomas Stone" > I am hoping to return it to the descendents (photos looks to be late 1800s early 1900s, it was taken by William Bell, Acorn cottage, Broad Bridge Street, Peterborough England ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Hello Elizabeth, I am interested as well, as my STONESs came to Canada from Yaxley, which is only about 5 miles from Peterborough. The name Thomas is frequently used within our family, too, so do wonder if could possibly be my 2x gr. grandfather's brother, who perhaps wrote the words/or a cousin/or a nephew. Also there are both BELLs and BALLs within this family, all in the UK, around Peterborough, Yaxley, Whittlesey and Huntingdon. Pity we do not know what [*your*] Thomas looked like, as we do have photos of our 2x gr.grandfather, mostly in his mid years, plus some of each of his 7 sons, at different stages of their lives. Nevertheless could you possibly scan the photo, sending it to me? Thank you, if you can. Warmest regards, Trena. ******************************************************** FHH Brat Reunion (1950-1965) Visit our web site: www.kingsweb.net/fhhbrats ********************************************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELIZABETH EVERS" <eevers@msn.com> To: <STONE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: [STONE] found photos, any takers > Now to where this site comes in, one of the photos is of building in Peterborough England on the back is written "Mr. And Mrs. Stone from their affectionate son, Thomas Stone" > I am hoping to return it to the descendents (photos looks to be late 1800s early 1900s, it was taken by William Bell, Acorn cottage, Broad Bridge Street, Peterborough England
...husbands come and husbands go ... genealogy is forever .. my wife says it resembles quilting where the quilter who dies with the most material wins .. in our case , it is ancestors.. she may be right (again) ron At 01:19 PM 8/3/02 -0500, you wrote: >Debbie, > The STONE photo is actually a photo of a building, its the writing on the back from a son to his parents that indicates it belonged to the STONES, I will be more than happy to scan that to you if you want. > All the photos I came across were from Europe, nothing yet from the US might start that quest after, thats if my husband doesnt divorce me for spending money on this project first. Elizabeth- Original Message ----- >From: DeyubRoots@aol.com >Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:04 PM >To: STONE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [STONE] found photos, any takers > >In a message dated 8/3/2002 11:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eevers@msn.com >writes: > > >> I am hoping to return it to the descendents (photos looks to be late 1800s >> early 1900s, it was taken by William Bell, Acorn cottage, Broad Bridge >> Street, Peterborough England >> > >Elizabeth, > >This is such a thoughtful thing you are doing! I just wish I could claim >them but I haven't done that much research on my early Stones. I so wish I >could find old photos of my family that even when I go into a Cracker Barrel >Restaurant I look at the old photos on the wall and wonder whose family they >should belong to! LOL > >The earliest I go back is to Jeremiah (b. ca. 1790) and Sarah Johnson Stone >in South Carolina and later moving to Randolph County, Alabama.. Since you >found the photos in Alabama - ya just never know! ;-) > >I do know that I have come across a website that has people offering old >photos to descendants. I may have the link on my other computer. This is not >the site I was thinking about but maybe it will be helpful. > ><A HREF="http://www.kari.no/photo/e_default.asp">The Old Family Photos - Old Unidentified Photos</A> > >Just out of curiosity, I would love to see a scan of the photo. > >Debbie >Volunteer of Random Acts >of Genealogical Kindness at ><A HREF="http://www.raogk.org/">http://www.raogk.org/</A> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hi, Where was your Thomas Stone and when? Thanks, GSC Elora M Goshe wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, I too have a Thomas Stone that goes back to England. Would > you be able to scan a copy for me, appreciate very much. > > elorag@mtayr.heartland.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
A couple of months ago, I was made aware of an old family album containing 43 old photos and tin plates on e-bay. Not sure, but possibly of my wife's Potts. Most of photos appear to be from the Potts family from the Harrison County, IN area. Doesn't appear to be of Stone surname. However, after winning the auction and buying the album, we scanned and placed the photos on a web site for the Potts-L to enjoy and/or download. Might be an idea for the Stones...although limited in size, there are free sites that can be created. Or, maybe someone has a business site with enough capacity to host some Stone photos. I have always regreted that, although I have written information such as census data, I have no photos of my gr-grandfather (Charles W. Stone, 7/22/1848-10/12/1919, Bourbon County, KY) or earlier ancestors. For the future, for my line of Stones (and spouses) of Poynton Manor, I would be willing to contribute monetarily to procure or maintain in this effort. Just an idea... Tony Anthony Stone Calman ASCalman@aol.com
In a message dated 8/3/2002 11:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eevers@msn.com writes: > I am hoping to return it to the descendents (photos looks to be late 1800s > early 1900s, it was taken by William Bell, Acorn cottage, Broad Bridge > Street, Peterborough England > Elizabeth, This is such a thoughtful thing you are doing! I just wish I could claim them but I haven't done that much research on my early Stones. I so wish I could find old photos of my family that even when I go into a Cracker Barrel Restaurant I look at the old photos on the wall and wonder whose family they should belong to! LOL The earliest I go back is to Jeremiah (b. ca. 1790) and Sarah Johnson Stone in South Carolina and later moving to Randolph County, Alabama.. Since you found the photos in Alabama - ya just never know! ;-) I do know that I have come across a website that has people offering old photos to descendants. I may have the link on my other computer. This is not the site I was thinking about but maybe it will be helpful. <A HREF="http://www.kari.no/photo/e_default.asp">The Old Family Photos - Old Unidentified Photos</A> Just out of curiosity, I would love to see a scan of the photo. Debbie Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at <A HREF="http://www.raogk.org/">http://www.raogk.org/</A>
Debbie, The STONE photo is actually a photo of a building, its the writing on the back from a son to his parents that indicates it belonged to the STONES, I will be more than happy to scan that to you if you want. All the photos I came across were from Europe, nothing yet from the US might start that quest after, thats if my husband doesnt divorce me for spending money on this project first. Elizabeth- Original Message ----- From: DeyubRoots@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:04 PM To: STONE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STONE] found photos, any takers In a message dated 8/3/2002 11:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eevers@msn.com writes: > I am hoping to return it to the descendents (photos looks to be late 1800s > early 1900s, it was taken by William Bell, Acorn cottage, Broad Bridge > Street, Peterborough England > Elizabeth, This is such a thoughtful thing you are doing! I just wish I could claim them but I haven't done that much research on my early Stones. I so wish I could find old photos of my family that even when I go into a Cracker Barrel Restaurant I look at the old photos on the wall and wonder whose family they should belong to! LOL The earliest I go back is to Jeremiah (b. ca. 1790) and Sarah Johnson Stone in South Carolina and later moving to Randolph County, Alabama.. Since you found the photos in Alabama - ya just never know! ;-) I do know that I have come across a website that has people offering old photos to descendants. I may have the link on my other computer. This is not the site I was thinking about but maybe it will be helpful. <A HREF="http://www.kari.no/photo/e_default.asp">The Old Family Photos - Old Unidentified Photos</A> Just out of curiosity, I would love to see a scan of the photo. Debbie Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at <A HREF="http://www.raogk.org/">http://www.raogk.org/</A> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
I am looking for old photo's of the Stone Family in Robeson County North Carolina and surrounding areas please help if you can. My husbands ancestors are Hardy Johnson Stone GGrandfather and Doctor Warren Stone Grandfather and Mother Laelia Caroline Stone {Bradley} Please email me direct if you are connected I have a site on myfamily.com for the Stone family from Robeson County, NC. Carole Bradley cbra725355@aol.com St. Petersburg, Florida