Dear Gentle Listers: Seems it is time for another reminder...... Please match your subject line to the topic in your message. This thread is drifting. Also... a reminder... discussion of Stewart DNA is to move to the Stewart DNA list. This is not to say there is no room for mention of it on this list. However, the other list is there for the discussion and further exploration. Believe it or not some folks still are not interested in the topic! And I will add my experience with surnames as middle names.... I find more often than not when tracking I have found them to be the surname of the mother of the father, and by extension when the research is of a Scot here in the USA, it tracks back to a paternal grandmother.... being the mother of a father way back when. This has borne out more times than not, in my experience and those I have suggested it to....broke a couple of brick walls exploring in this manner. Yours Aye, Lauren Stewart List Admin Rootsweb Volunteer since 1996

I had an aunt who was doing the family genealogy and searched and searched for a relative with the surname her own mother carried as her middle name. She finally thought to ask her mother (duh!), and it turned out to be the name of the doctor who delivered her. Great disappointment to my aunt, but funny to me. So yes, people did sometimes get middle names that had no direct family connection. Ida

This is no surprise to me -- my youngest brother's middle name is from the doctor who delivered him. Mike Stewart ---- IDAMADISON@aol.com wrote: > I had an aunt who was doing the family genealogy and searched and searched > for a relative with the surname her own mother carried as her middle name. She > finally thought to ask her mother (duh!), and it turned out to be the name of > the doctor who delivered her. Great disappointment to my aunt, but funny to > me. So yes, people did sometimes get middle names that had no direct family > connection. > > Ida > > > ==== STEWART Mailing List ==== > All those interested in the History of the Stewarts/Stuarts.... etc. > are invited to join Clan Stewart Society in America, Inc. > Visit their new web site at http://www.clansstewart.org

April 1972 possibly the New Glasgow newspaper Edison Stewart, Greenwood, Dies Greenwood - Edison Stewart, died at the Aberdeen Hospital on Thursday evening following a lengthy illness. Born 65 years ago at Goldenville, Guysboro County, he was the son of the late John and Carrie (White) Stewart. He was a retired coal miner and woodsman by trade. Besides his wife, the former Annie Doucette, he is survived by four daughters: Irene, Ontario; Lois (Mrs. Ronald MacDonald), Ontario; Francis (Mrs. C. MacKenzie), New Glasgow; Joan (Mrs. Raymond Arnold), Greenwood; three sons: Raymond and Donald, New Glasgow; and Robert, New Glasgow; 29 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren. Also surviving is one sister, Stella (Mrs. Neil Sutherland), New Glasgow; three brothers: Otto and Oswald, Ontario; and Russell, Stellarton. The remains are resting at the R. H. Porter Funeral Home, 55 Almont Ave., New Glasgow, from where the funeral will be held on Saturday at 2:30 p.m. Interment will be in Heatherdale Memorial Gardens. - Saturday, April 29, 1972 The Chronicle-Herald, Halifax, N.S. Edison Stewart Greenwood - Edison Stewart, 65, died Thursday at Aberdeen Hospital. Born at Goldenville, Guysborough County, he was the son of the late John and Carrie (White) Stewart, and was a retired coal miner. Surviving is his wife, the former Annie Doucette, four daughters: Irene, and Lois (Mrs. Ronald MacDonald), both in Ontario; Francis (Mrs. C. MacKenzie), New Glasgow; Joan (Mrs. Raymond Arnold), Greenwood; three sons: Raymond, Donald, and Robert, New Glasgow; 29 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren; one sister, Stella (Mrs. Neil Sutherland), New Glasgow; three brothers, Otto and Oswald, in Ontario; and Russell, Stellarton. The body is at the R. H. Porter Funeral Home, New Glasgow, where funeral will be held Saturday at 2:30 p.m. Interment will be in Heatherdale Memorial Gardens. The family requests no flowers. Donations may be made to any charitable organizations.

In a message dated 2/17/2006 12:34:20 AM Central Standard Time, zenas5@yahoo.com writes: Sergeant United States Army 31st Infantry Regiment Evansville – Vanderburgh County – Indiana S/N 6658437 Captured in the Philippines by Japanese DOD – November 25, 1943 Buried in the Manila American Cemetery – Philippines Plot E Row 6 Grave 44 World War II Prisoners of War, 1941-1946 Record Name: Edward L Stewart Race: White Residence State: Indiana Report Date: 7 May 1942 Latest Report Date: 25 Nov 1943 Grade: Sergeant Grade Notes: Captain or Asst. superintendent of nurses or Asst. director of nurses or Chief dietitian or Chief physical therapy aides or Sergeant or Technician 4th Grade or Lieutenant or Petty Officer, 3rd Class Service Branch: Army Arm or Service: Infantry Arm or Service Code: Infantry Area Served: Southwest Pacific Theatre: Philippine Islands Detaining Country: Japan Camp: Osaka Main Camp Chikko Osaka 34-135 Status: Died as Prisoner of War, Not Above Cases Report Source: Individual has been reported through sources considered official. Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. World War II Prisoners of War, 1941-1946 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original data: World War II Prisoners of War Data File [Archival Database]; Records of World War II Prisoners of War, 1942-1947; Records of the Office of the Provost Marshal General, Record Group 389; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

In a message dated 2/17/2006 12:34:20 AM Central Standard Time, zenas5@yahoo.com writes: Please become one of our special volunteers today and find the family of an Indiana serviceman from near your home. A list of the men from your Indiana county is available, free and all you must do is request it. Charles Richard Stewart Aviation Radioman Second Class United States Navy Reserve Service Number 6263000 Terre Haute – Vigo-Jackson County – Indiana DOD – November 13, 1944 He is missing or buried at sea His name is honored on the “Tablets of the Missing” at Manila American Cemetery - Philippines Purple Heart Dave and Apple Dwiggins San Pablo City, Philippines U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record Name: Charles R Stewart Birth Year: 1919 Race: White, citizen Nativity State or Country: Indiana State: Indiana County or City: Randolph Enlistment Date: 1 Feb 1941 Enlistment State: Indiana Enlistment City: Fort Benjamin Harrison Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) Source: Civil Life Education: 4 years of high school Civil Occupation: Tracktor Driver* or Truck Driver, Heavy or Chauffeur or Truck Driver, Light An asterisk (*) appearing after a job title indicates that a trade test for the particular occupation will be found in the United States Employment Service Manual, Oral Trade Test Marital Status: Single, without dependents Height: 67 Weight: 153 Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

February 1971 possibly the New Glasgow newspaper Former Local Man Passes Halifax - Gordon Stewart, formerly of New Glasgow, died here suddenly on Sunday following a heart attack. He was 61. Born in Sydney, he spent the early part of his life in New Glasgow, moving to Halifax 19 years ago when he joined the auditing staff of the Workmen's Compensation Board. He was a son of the late Mr. and Mrs. John R. Stewart, who carried on an insurance business in New Glasgow. He served in the army during World War II. Interested in sports, particularly in hockey and horse racing, he contributed to the sports page of the Evening News for several years. He is survived by his wife, the former Ethel Henderson, Goldboro; a brother, Roy, New Glasgow and a sister, Mrs. J.D. Turner, Boston. The remains are at Halifax Funeral Home with the funeral being at 2 p.m. on Tuesday at St. David's Presbyterian Church. Interment will be in Halifax. - Monday, February 8, 1971 The Chronicle-Herald, Halifax, N. S. Gordon C. Stewart Gordon Carter Stewart, 61, New Glasgow, died yesterday in the Victoria General Hospital. Born in New Glasgow, he was the son of the late Mr. and Mrs. John Stewart. He is survived by his wife, Ethel; one brother, Roy, New Glasgow; and one sister, Mrs. Helen Turner, Boston. The body is at the Halifax Funeral Home, Quinpool Road. Funeral service will be held Tuesday at 2 p.m. in St. David's Presbyterian Church, with Rev. Donald MacKay officiating. Burial will be in Hillcrest Memorial Gardens.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AmJBAIB/7021.3.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Gwen, The info I submitted was from 1970 photocopy of record that uses the source from Stewart Clan Mag B 8 A 23, Vol 22 Utah F2 P45. I do not have access to any Stewart Clan Mag. Entry : Endowment reconfirmed and all former sealings ratified for above child #1 on 11 Mar 1970. (Child #1 is Stewart, Phebe Jane) Secondly, I cheated and looked at a map.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AmJBAIB/7372 Message Board Post: SGT Edward L. Stewart of Rvansville, Indiana and the United States Army, was killed November 25, 1943, while sering in the Southwest Pacific during World War II. He is buried at the Manila American Cemetery in the Philippines. We have found the following reference at the Indiana State Library website; World War II database. We do not have the information because we do not have access to the microfilms here in the Philippines but we are hoping for some help from our posting. Our goal is to find the families of Indiana servicemen and present them with free photographs of their loved one’s grave sites or their names as they appear on the “Tablets”. This information will increase our chances of finding the families. Please help us! References: Indianapolis Star April 8, 1944 Casualty Page 5, Column 2 Indianapolis News May 7, 1943 Prisoner Part 1, Page 14, Column 3 Indianapolis News July 1, 1943 Prisoner Part 1, Page 13, Column 4 Hello, I am a retired American veteran residing in the Philippines with my Filipino wife. A year ago we visited the memorial as visitors but came home with a mission in our hearts. As we gazed over the beautifully manicured acres and the 17,202 American graves, it was obvious only a few families had ever visited their graves. I stepped into the soft grass and focused my camera on one of the white crosses, a grave of an Ohio soldier. A strange calmness was in the air as I walked a few more steps and a cross of an Indiana soldier lay square in my path. The letters of the inscription on the marker was bolder than ever, here lay a soldier from my home state. At that moment a quiet brainstorm aroused my humble thoughts. I wondered if I could locate any of the families of these men. My stride became more defined and within a few moments I had located and photographed eight more graves. Since those gut-wrenching but touching moments we have energized our efforts in finding the families of these American men from Indiana. We have located well over 100 and have delivered the FREE photographs to them via email. Please visit our website and see the men we have honored and the families we have assisted in finding a more genuine closure of a horrible tragedy. http://fizkid.tripod.com/ Our success in finding the families was the result of journalists, amateur genealogists, historians, historical societies, librarians and lots of wonderful Hoosiers and those with Indiana ties across America. During our search we have also reached families from other states as well and have filled special requests for photos from the Manila American Cemetery. We presently have photographed only the graves of the Indiana soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen; however we have photographed all of the names that are engraved on the "Tablets of the Missing". We offer them free of charge to anyone who asks. We ask for your help in finding their families. We understand this is a genealogy board but we do not need immediate genealogy in that form, we need leads to find the families. Please become one of our special volunteers today and find the family of an Indiana serviceman from near your home. A list of the men from your Indiana county is available, free and all you must do is request it. Sergeant United States Army 31st Infantry Regiment Evansville – Vanderburgh County – Indiana S/N 6658437 Captured in the Philippines by Japanese DOD – November 25, 1943 Buried in the Manila American Cemetery – Philippines Plot E Row 6 Grave 44 Dave and Apple Dwiggins San Pablo City, Philippines

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AmJBAIB/7371 Message Board Post: Charles Richard Stewart of Terre Haute, Indiana was killed November 13, 1944, while serving in the Southwest Pacific during World War II. His status remains missing or buried at sea and his name is honored on the Tablets of the Missing at Manila American Cemetery in the Philippines. We have found the following reference at the Indiana State Library website; World War II database. We do not have the information because we do not have access to the microfilms here in the Philippines but we are hoping for some help from our posting. Our goal is to find the families of Indiana servicemen and present them with free photographs of their loved one’s grave sites or their names as they appear on the “Tablets”. This information will increase our chances of finding the families. Please help us! References: Indianapolis Times January 19, 1945 Missing in Action Page and Column Unavailable Indianapolis Star January 20, 1945 Missing in Action Page 9, Column 6 Hello, I am a retired American veteran residing in the Philippines with my Filipino wife. A year ago we visited the memorial as visitors but came home with a mission in our hearts. As we gazed over the beautifully manicured acres and the 17,202 American graves, it was obvious only a few families had ever visited their graves. I stepped into the soft grass and focused my camera on one of the white crosses, a grave of an Ohio soldier. A strange calmness was in the air as I walked a few more steps and a cross of an Indiana soldier lay square in my path. The letters of the inscription on the marker was bolder than ever, here lay a soldier from my home state. At that moment a quiet brainstorm aroused my humble thoughts. I wondered if I could locate any of the families of these men. My stride became more defined and within a few moments I had located and photographed eight more graves. Since those gut-wrenching but touching moments we have energized our efforts in finding the families of these American men from Indiana. We have located well over 100 and have delivered the FREE photographs to them via email. Please visit our website and see the men we have honored and the families we have assisted in finding a more genuine closure of a horrible tragedy. http://fizkid.tripod.com/ Our success in finding the families was the result of journalists, amateur genealogists, historians, historical societies, librarians and lots of wonderful Hoosiers and those with Indiana ties across America. During our search we have also reached families from other states as well and have filled special requests for photos from the Manila American Cemetery. We presently have photographed only the graves of the Indiana soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen; however we have photographed all of the names that are engraved on the "Tablets of the Missing". We offer them free of charge to anyone who asks. We ask for your help in finding their families. We understand this is a genealogy board but we do not need immediate genealogy in that form, we need leads to find the families. Please become one of our special volunteers today and find the family of an Indiana serviceman from near your home. A list of the men from your Indiana county is available, free and all you must do is request it. Charles Richard Stewart Aviation Radioman Second Class United States Navy Reserve Service Number 6263000 Terre Haute – Vigo-Jackson County – Indiana DOD – November 13, 1944 He is missing or buried at sea His name is honored on the “Tablets of the Missing” at Manila American Cemetery - Philippines Purple Heart Dave and Apple Dwiggins San Pablo City, Philippines

My immediate family, even down to my grand-nieces and nephews, has always used family names for middle names. But in other branches I have found it isn't always a real clue. One named his son after the doctor who had helped at his birth, another named a son after a close friend. It took quite a while for me to abandon that one as a clue but I did track it down. So use with care. Also, all my nice Scots totally abandoned the practice of children's first names after father, mother etc. just as soon as they landed on these shores. Mary in Greece > My Stewart Riley and Chapman families all gave their oldest son a > middle name that was their mother's maiden name. Often younger > children received significant middle names. > > Becky

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart, Clough, Leaman.... Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AmJBAIB/7370 Message Board Post: I am looking for any family info on Tryphena Stewart...she was married to Beriah Clough, and had several children one was Herbert O. Clough. She was born about 1808 in Garland Maine. I believe her maiden name was Stewart, though she may have been married before Beriah to someone with the last name Leaman. I have also been told she was a twin, her sister was Tryphosa Stewart. Any info or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Cheryl Gandy Check out my family page http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/cherylgandy1964

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AmJBAIB/7369 Message Board Post: please help if anyone has information on william h.stewart who is buried in the smyrna cemetery of columbia co arkansas.b1842d1918m1668magnolia,wife louiza m. byrd. anything appreciated!

Thanks everyone for your interesting answers. We all know that some children received the full name of Presidents or other famous figures. However many seem to have middle names that are surnames. I suppose sometimes these were family friends. In my case I wonder if my gggg grandfather William Stewart's mother's maiden name might have been Cole as the daughter bearing this middle name is the eldest child. The second daughter has her own mother's first name. I don't know for sure who was the mother of this William so keep wondering if she could have been a Cole. William was born in 1766 in Virginia and I will need to find out if a Stewart male married a female Cole in the right time frame and in what I think is the right county. I asked the question to see if anyone had some inside knowledge about this type of naming and also felt it might help others think about where the surnames used as middle names in their families came from. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <MHess138@aol.com> To: <STEWART-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [STEWART] Stewart use of surnames as middle names for children? > Karen, > My James Stewart family all seem to have surnames for a middle name. > This pattern followed through when Polly Stewart married a Windsor. > Do you know if they just chose the middle name from friends or were > they > relatives? > Some of my middle names cannot be connected to the family that I know. > > Mary > > > ==== STEWART Mailing List ==== > When was the last time you updated your anti-virus program? > Keep your fellow listmembers safe -- make sure your anti-virus program > is on, active and up to date! The data you save may be your own. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stewart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AmJBAIB/7368 Message Board Post: Raynham Stewart was father of Robert (c1790); George (1798); Sarah; Elizabeth and Anne Stewart. Also grandfather of Martha (1820); Harriott (1822); Emma (1823); Raynham(1825); Mary (1827); William (1829); George (1831) and Robert Stewart (1834). Also great-grandfather of Jane (1867); George (1869); Mary (1872); Lilian (1877); Sydney (1879) and Alfred (1880). The Rev Raynham C Stewart (NY State USA), in orders c1915, was probably related. There are probably descendents of Sydney in New South Wales and of Lilian in South Africa (Cape). Please contact author if the above is of interest or to provide any information on Raynham's 18th century antecedents.

Karen, My James Stewart family all seem to have surnames for a middle name. This pattern followed through when Polly Stewart married a Windsor. Do you know if they just chose the middle name from friends or were they relatives? Some of my middle names cannot be connected to the family that I know. Mary

My Stewart Riley and Chapman families all gave their oldest son a middle name that was their mother's maiden name. Often younger children received significant middle names. Becky On 2/15/06, Karen Conroy <karen.conroy@virgin.net> wrote: > > I have wondered at the significance of middle names among the > Stewarts. My > gggg grandfather William Stewart b. 1766 in Va. and who then moved to Ky. > named his eldest daughter Mary Cole Stewart (born 1798). I have wondered > if > that was a significant surname in the family history and if children were > regularly given family surnames for middle names. > > Karen > ----- > >

No, not a direct relationship with mine. My gggg grandfather had a son named John Price Stewart who was born about 1806 and moved to Iowa where he died in 1860. Karen

In a message dated 2/15/2006 8:45:55 PM Mountain Standard Time, SHAABBOTT@aol.com writes: I have seen a census taker write the abbreviation "IA" for birthplace. As I knew this particular family was born in Indiana, I realized it was his abbreviation for Indiana not Iowa. We can't always assume today's abbreviations were the same in the 1800s. ***************************** Wow. That's a new one for me that I had not thought about. Thank you for the tip off Ruth Cherecwich

Dorothy, Sorry, none of my Stewarts went to Iowa. However, just a word of warning to everyone: I have seen a census taker write the abbreviation "IA" for birthplace. As I knew this particular family was born in Indiana, I realized it was his abbreviation for Indiana not Iowa. We can't always assume today's abbreviations were the same in the 1800s. Shannon