In reply to Burr Stephens: To bring all of the readers up to date on this discussion - Burr and I are discussing the genealogy of Thomas Stephens who married Rachel Gatrell of Fayette Co., OH I have Ruth Stephens Miller, who lived in Greene Co. OH (abt 1809-1827) then moved to Fayette Co., IN. She had siblings of John (who died intestate in Fayette Co. in 1827), Mary, Margaret, James, William, Samuel, Richard, Benjamin and Thomas. The parent of this brood were Benjamin and Agnes McClelland and Benjamin's father was Richard. One peculiar name in this family is Abednego, which I have only seen in the descendants of this family and that of Benjamin and Rebecca Caldwell. Replies - Thomas G. Stephens is the son of Levi Stephens and Delila Gatrell. I have no idea how Rachel and Delila are related. The surname is variously listed as Stephens, Stephen, Stevens and Stevins. One branch of our Stephens has actually changed their names to Stephen. It is very hard to distinguish individuals since most did not use middle names and the same names were repeated from one generation to the next. Benjamin Stephens and Agnes McClelland's descendants are frequently confused with Benjamin Stephens and Rebecca Caldwell's. The Susanna and Rachel footnotes of Greene County records are in error. Those names came from Dick Olds. I will write you personally on the civil war records offer. Ruth (Stephens) Miller had 3 grandsons (sons of George Miller) who served in the Civil War. Two were killed. I think we might learn a lot from Butler County records. And yes, Midland TX is the home of the Confederate Air Force (now Commemorative Air Force). ----- Original Message ----- From: Burr Stephens To: David G. Miller Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [STEPHENS] Thomas STEPHENS (1791-1869) Hello Dave Continuing the saga: refer to your Email Aug 6, 2003 22:03 I just found 'Thomas Gatrell Stephen of Butler Co OH' with land patent in Fayette Co IN in 1820 and Thomas G Stephen same Co in 1834. Notice the "S" is being dropped from Stephens. Butler Co in on the document. Yes I see Benjamin must have been a brother. I was assuming this Richard was the son of Thomas b 1791. Richard was b November 20, 1815 in Butler Co OH. From Dick OLds. He was only 18 when he transfered land in 1833. Perhaps this Richard is the brother of Thomas b 1791. I find BLM GLO record for Richard Stephen of Franklin Co IN recieving land in 1833. I think Thomas G Stephens in Fayette Co IN is the husband of Rachael Gatrell since he carries the middle name of Gatrell. On both Rachael Gatrell and Susanna Stevens you show a footnote of (6). This says Tax list GreenCo Ohio Have you looked at any civil war pension records? There are sometimes a wealth of info there. If you have anyone who is a veteran, give me any details you might have and I will research that part. In the early 1900's, Indiana required a marrige licience application that included the mothers maiden name and the birthplace of the father. Can you name anyone who might fit in that time frame? I got the info for another line from that record. He was getting married for the 3rd time, so I found his fathers birth place for the first time. I think I will visit Butler Co Ohio soon. It's only about 90 miles. A lot less than comming from Midland. Is that the home of the Confederate Air Force? Burr