Thanks again Tom, Yes I know from the census work I have done here between 1841-1891, there are certainly variations and weird things. I took the copy of the census to my cousins today, he is the grandson of this Richard Cotton Stephens brother Silvanus. They both agree and say its Lena, now I am really confused where Fannie C comes into it, as she was supposed to be her (lena), either they had twins and one died before 1880, which may be the answer. More digging to do later. Thanks for all you time and help, really appreciated. I will investigate, as soon as I finish the family I am working on right now. Both copies rec'd. Kind regards Derek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Stephens" <llanotom@msn.com> To: <derek_brooks@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Richard Cotton Stephens Census enumerators made many mistakes. I have an ancestor, Francis Youree Hamiltion, who I have found listed in the census listed as Francis, F. Y., F. Z., and F. W. Hamilton. Children disappear from one census to the next. Child mortality was high, women often died in childbirth. People seem to have lied about their age, same people different ages in subsequent census. The way I read the 1870 census: Jane, 5 yrs, born c. 1864-65, Wisconsin. Lena, 1 year, born c. 1869-69, Missouri. US Census Worksheets are available from FamilySearch.com..downloadabe, printable pdf versions. I am attaching 1900, 1910 Census for Richard C. Stephens. Let me know if you fail to receive them and I will send one at a time. Tom Stephens _________________________________________________________________ Planning a family vacation? Check out the MSN Family Travel guide! http://dollar.msn.com