I have never seen any direct connection between these two families, but I certainly hope that someone finds their origins. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "ernest B Thompson" <ebt@coastside.net> To: <STEELE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [STEELE-L] Fw: The origin of the Steeles of Augusta/Rockbridge VA > > -----Original Message----- > From: ernest B Thompson <ebt@coastside.net> > To: samstee@tds.net <samstee@tds.net> > Date: Saturday, June 30, 2001 11:25 PM > Subject: Fw: The origin of the Steeles of Augusta/Rockbridge VA > > > >Hi Robert, > > > >As I sent out in a brief note, I have been able to order a copy of "A > >Gathering of the Clan" by Carl Steele. However, as I read your original > >note below, I am puzzled. The Chalkley court citations of the Steeles in > >Augusta Co. (Borden/Beverly patents) are numerous and involve many Steeles > >from 1738 to at least 1815. The thought that most of the Steeles left > >Borden due to deed problems doesn't seem probable? However, further, the > >notes about locations in your original email don't show any of the listed > >Steeles ever living in Augusta Co.? > >I know you are quoting the Carl Steele book, so not being critical of your > >note. > > > >Anyway, the book has not arrived yet and I can't wait to read it. However, > >if you have any new insights, I'd appreciate your comments. > > > >I question the remarks I made in my original note below. > > > >Regards, > > > >Ernest > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ernest B Thompson <ebt@coastside.net> > >To: STEELE-L@rootsweb.com <STEELE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Cc: will <wwatson@newsusa.com>; rtprop@ibm.net <rtprop@ibm.net> > >Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:55 PM > >Subject: Re: The origin of the Steeles of Augusta/Rockbridge VA VERY > >IMPORTANT > > > > > >>Hi all VA Steeles, > >> > >>I have been in this group for a number of years and my only goal was to > >>trace the Steeles of Steele's Tavern Augusta/Rockbridge Co's > >>VA (in the Borden/Beverly Patents) to the immigrants. Below is the first > >>clue I have seen and if the material is tied to original documents it is a > >>major break through a brick wall for a lot of us. Bravo Robert and Carl > >>Steele! > >> > >>Now, I think this issue was not properly researched because of the untrue > >>rumor that our Steeles were descendants of the very famous author, Sir > >>Richard Steele of Ireland, and everyone starting to work on this line > >>accepted the rumor. > >> > >>It seemed that the original immigrant to Augusta was Sam. Steele (born > >>1709). However, a number of years ago I had an old family letter that > >>said the Steele immigrants to Augusta were three brothers. Unfortunately, > >I > >>lost the letter, but did not gthe the ive it creditability since it tied > >the > >>brothers to Sir Richard Steele. It now seems to me that we have a > >plausible > >>case, based upon the plot maps of the farms that there were at least two > >>brothers, Andrew and Sam. Birth dates, Patent dates, family names (note > >>that Andrew and Samuel were carried down through the generations by all of > >>the Steeles from Augusta). > >> > >>I would like to have a copy of the Carl Steele's book. Robert - I will > >>contact you directly. > >> > >>Carl may have completed unique and original research which is of great > >>interest to we eccentric few who focus only on the Steeles of Steele's > >>Tavern. > >> > >>Let me note that I have no information on the these Steeles as they moved > >>west so can't help with any queries as to the later generations. > >> > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Ernest Thompson > >>Moss Beach, CA > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Robert Steele <samstee@tds.net> > >>To: STEELE-L@rootsweb.com <STEELE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Date: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:18 AM > >>Subject: [Steele-L] Reuben Steele, Scotland?, Virginia, North Carolina > 18th > >>Century > >> > >> > >>>I would like to find more information about Reuben Steele, and his > >>>descendants. > >>> > >>>The genealogy of one of his sons, Robert Steele, has been published by > >>Carl > >>>Steele of Tulsa, OK in his book "Gathering of the Clan" but what happened > >>to > >>>the rest of Reuben's fourteen children has not been established. > >>> > >>>This what Carl Steele wrote about Reuben's family in his book: > >>> > >>>"Reuben Steele was probably born about 1720 in Argyll County, Scotland. > >>>Legend purports him to be a son of Alexander Steele and his English wife, > >>>Hanna. Alexander, born about 1680, lived in Glen Strae, Glen Orchy and > >Glen > >>>Locky, Scotland. He was a famous leader of the McGregor clan, being > >>>declared chief of the clan Gregor in July 1714. The wife of Reuben was a > >>>Crockett. She appears to have descended from Gabriel Gustave de > >>>Crocketagne' through his son, Antoine Desasur Pernonette de Crocketagne a > >>>Huguenot and the father of three sons, one of whom likely was the father > >of > >>>Reuben's wife. > >>> > >>>Whether they came directly from Scotland or via Ireland is unknown. They > >>>landed in Philadelphia and went soon, perhaps at once, to the Shenandoah > >>>Valley. There, in the present county of Rockbridge, Benjamin Borden was > >>>granted a large tract of land by Virginia's Colonial Government in 1739. > >>>Many settlers, and perhaps our Steele's, bought their land from the > >"Borden > >>>Grant." > >>> > >>>When Borden died in 1743. There was considerable confusion in the > >>>settlement of his estate, and many settlers were unable to obtain final > >>>title to their land. They left their tracts and pushed on to new > >>>settlements, leaving no trace in the public record of their stay in the > >>>valley. > >>> > >>>River Valley which lay on the edge of the "great wilderness." This > fertile > >>>valley was a favorite hunting grounds for the Canawhay, Catabus, > Cherokee, > >>>Delaware, Shawnee and Wyandot Indians. Many bloody and bitter battles > were > >>>fought among the various Indian tribe to protect their hunting rights. > >>>Although no Indian tribe claimed the New River Valley as a permanent > home, > >>>the intrusion of the white settlers was generally resented. In those > days, > >>>only the Cherokee was regarded as friendly. They bartered and taught the > >>>white man "home remedies" to cure his ills with herbs and animal fats. > >>>Undoubtedly, our ancestors had many friendly encounters with the Indians > >>and > >>>learned techniques necessary to their survival in this new land. > >>> > >>>Hostility was abundant and brutal. During this period our pioneer > >>ancestors > >>>lived in constant fear of attack from any one of a number of Indian > tribes > >>>which frequented the area. The fears of these ancestors were intensified > >>as > >>>news of the massacre of a neighboring settlement at Draper's Meadow was > >>>received. On the eighth of July 1755, every soul at Draper's Meadow was > >>>killed, wounded, or captured. Hardly a settlement in the New River Valley > >>>had escaped the frightful massacres that occurred in the latter half of > >the > >>>175O's. Our Steele family once narrowly escaped death at the hands of > >>>Indians which may have been a factor in their decision to leave the New > >>>River Valley. > >>> > >>>New River Valley, the proclamation line of 1763 did. This line forbade > the > >>>purchase or settlement of Indian lands which extended westerly of a line > >>>running through the heads of the rivers which fell into the Atlantic from > >>>the west or northwest. By the early 1760's, Reuben had relocated his > >family > >>>in a more settled area. Although he could have taken the family back into > >>>the Shenandoah Valley or perhaps into North Carolina, it seems likely the > >>>family found Prince Edward County a more desirable choice. Both Steeles > >and > >>>Crocketts were living in Prince Edward County along the Buffalo River in > a > >>>Scotch-Irish settlement established some years earlier in 1735 learning > to > >>>live without the constant threat of Indian attack. There was time to > renew > >>>acquaintance with seldom seen relatives and time to develop new > >>friendships. > >>>Robert may well have met his wife-to-be, Mary, also known as Polly, > >Keeling > >>>or Kelen, during this time. But their future seemed to lay in North > >>>Carolina, and soon the family was on the move again. Tradition places > them > >>>in the "Forks of the Yadkin," a valley lying between the main Yadkin and > >>>the South Yadkin River comprising present Davie and Yadkin counties. > >>There, > >>>Reuben reared the remainder of his fourteen children." > >>> > >>>Two of his sons, Robert and Samuel, moved back to the New River Valley > >>>where they remained for the rest of their lives. What happened to the > rest > >>>of Reuben's fourteen children? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>First Generation > >>>---------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>1. Reuben Steele. Born abt 1720 in Argyll, Scotland. Reuben died in At > >>Sea. > >>> > >>> abt 1740 when Reuben was 20, he married __________ Crockett, in > Scotland? > >>>Born in Scotland. > >>> > >>>They had the following children: > >>> 2 i. Robert (~1745-~1821) > >>> ii. Samuel. > >>> > >>> iii. Margaret. > >>> > >>>Margaret married Walter Crockett. > >>> > >>> iv. Jennie. > >>> > >>>Jennie married John Crockett. > >>> > >>> v. Lettie. > >>> > >>>Lettie married Sam Crockett. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Second Generation > >>>---------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>2. Robert Steele. Born abt 1745 in VA. Buried abt 1821 in Wythe County, > >>>VA. Robert died in Wythe County, VA abt May 1821, he was 76. > >>> > >>> abt 1771 when Robert was 26, he first married Mary "Polly" Keeling, in > >>>Prince Edward County, VA. > >>> > >>>They had the following children: > >>> i. James (~1773-) > >>> ii. Samuel (~1775-1822) > >>> iii. Edmond (1777-1850) > >>> iv. William (1778-1857) > >>> v. Jeffrey Oliver (~1782-) > >>> vi. John (~1782-) > >>> vii. Elizabeth (~1783-) > >>> > >>> abt 1785 when Robert was 40, he second married Rebecca Oury. > >>> > >>>They had the following children: > >>> i. David (~1795-~1863) > >>> ii. Reuben (1797-1866) > >>> iii. Robert (~1798-) > >>> iv. Catherine (~1800-) > >>> v. Crockett (~1802-~1857) > >>> vi. George (~1808->1880) > >>> vii. Nancy (~1810-) > >>> viii. 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