Janie et al., If no social security benefits were paid out, chances are good that there would be no SSDI entry. There should, however, be an SS-5 application form, which you should be able to get (at a steep price today - $27 if I recall) with mother's and father's info on the individual. take care, good luck, and have a Wonderful Holiday Season !! john ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Vajbirds672@cs.com Reply-To: STEELE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:45:27 EST > SSDI doesn't >even have records of him even though I have his SS card and pay stubs?? Very >Puzzling? > >Janie Boulware [