I have been trying to break down one of my "brick walls" now for several years. My 2nd great grandfather John Steele, was born May 16, 1843 in North Carolina, m: Lucinda J. Hoenecker (or may be Honaker, Honacre) Bef. 1870. He died in Collin County, TX December 29, 1916. My great grandfather Charles Robert Steele was born in Russell County, VA January 7, 1868. Lucinda was born December 8, 1838 I believe in Wythe County, VA and also died in Collin County, TX July 7, 1907. I have no clue as to who either of their parents were, thus my "brick wall". I have written the Bureau of Vital Statistics in TX for copies of their death certificates, but have not received anything yet. I have just recently found the following: John Steele age 27, is shown in the 1870 Russell County, VA Census (born in North Carolina) with Female Lucinda age 32. There is also a Male Charles age 21 and a Male Thomas J. age 7/12. I am not aware of a child for them named Thomas. Is it possible that Charles age 21 is brother of John? If anyone can shed any light on my "brick wall", I sure would be most appreciative. Billy McMenamy billybob@glade.net