Maybe I am only adding to the confusion, since I don't even know my John Steele's (bef.1760-1823) ancestry or origins, much less anybody else's. But here is some of the info I've received on Ninian[s]. I kind of watch the name since it shows up close to where my other known folks were in PA & NC, and where they, and my John, ended up in KY. Since I've never seen the sources, I cannot speak to the authenticity, and since I'm new to the list I don't know if this has been discussed before. I hope something helps someone. As I said, it helps me to be able to eliminate "possibles" for my John Steele. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: Re: New to list >Hi, folks, >I've been "here" for a couple of weeks. Several of the folks in my files >were in Old Chester for awhile before moving on. I am following the >families of Squire & Sarah Morgan Boone and Morgan & Martha Strode >Bryan. (Squire & Sarah's daughter m. Morgan & Martha's son) Many of >the names I've noticed on the list are familiar, and are affiliated to >those families through church, marriage or later migration. (Ellis, >Hughes, Foulke & others) I do have some information about some of these >associated families as they moved on to Va & NC & KY that I'd be happy >to share. > >I am also searching for a brick wall family: the family of John Steele >& Eleanor Unknown. They had moved to northern Kentucky by the late >1790's / early 1800, and it's been suggested to me that I look here for >them - their "origins". John & Eleanor's oldest child was Mary, b. >1777, which indicates a birth year for John before 1760. John died in >1823, in Kentucky. John & Eleanor's only son was Robert A. > >John & Eleanor's children gave several of their children a middle name >of Ross, so of course I wonder if that was Eleanor's maiden name. >I wish he had a more unique name; there were a lot of John Steele's in >the colonies, and we've eliminated many of them. All I really know >about John is that he educated his daughters extremely well, and that >several of us "cousins" keep banging our heads against this brick, with >few results. Any clues or suggestions welcome! > >Kathryn Weiss >California Subject: Steeles Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:50:50 -0400 <PA-OLD-CHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> There was a fairly large family of Steels in Chester, descendants of Ninian Steele, who came from the north of Ireland and settled in New London twp. He died in 1745, leaving several children, but none that I can find named John. I did find an "unattatched" John in another Steele family, the son of Gen. James Steele. The Gen's. son, James, was a member of the legislature, and resident of Fallowfield, and served in the War of 1812..... a son John is also mentioned, but nothing more than a name. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 STEELE, JAMES. West Fallowfield. September 25, 1807. John Reed, Administrator. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 STEELE, ISABELLA. West Fallowfield. April 2, 1814. Elizabeth Steele, administrator. this is all I could find in Chester Co, but will include the next ones, as you are unsure where John actually came from; Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Cumberland co STEELE, JOHN, senr., minister, Carlisle. May 24, 1779/12 February 1780. Son John and his children. Dau. Lydia's children by Robert Sample. Dau. Margaret and her children. Elizabeth McKinley and her children. Dau. Jean. Mary and Sarah. Robert and Andrew Steel McClean, a minor, under the care of dau. Jean. "Money entrusted by Mr. McAllister to Samuel Laird and me, for use of the poor." Exs.: John Agnew, Saml. Laird, John Creigh and Ephraim Steel. Wit: William Thompson, Isaac Clark, Adam Scott. Codicil June 28, 1779. Son Andrew of age in six years, plantation at Bedford. Wit: Isaac Clark, John Holmes, John Montgomery, Robert Miller, Willm. Moore. D. 5-7. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Cuumberland co STEELE, JOHN, Captain in the 3rd Reg. of Infantry, in the service of the United State of America. September 26, 1800. January 15, 1801. Mother Agness Jordan. Nephew John Steele, minor son of William Steele of Carlisle. Exs.: Mother Agness Jordan and Ephraim Steele, merchant of Carlisle. Wit.: B. Genet, A. Marschalk. Codicil November 6, 1800. Bros. William and Joseph Steele. Cousin William Steele. Wit.: Edward Magauran, Ja. Duncan. F. 207-208. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Lancaster co April 17, 1756 June 12, 1756 STEELE, JAMES Wife. Elizabeth Steele. Children: Thomas, Elizabeth and John. Ex. Thomas and John Steele. Little Brittain Twp. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Lamcaster co October 19, 1797 June 17, 1798 BAILEY, ROBERT Wife. Margaret Bailey. Children: Francis, Jacob, Lydia wife of James Tompson, Elizabeth wife of William Steele, Abigail wife of John Steele and Jennet wife of James Sterrett. Grandchildren: Margaret, Rachel, Almira, Elizabeth and Harriet (children of Jacob). Ex. Francis Bailey and James Tompson. Sadsbury Twp. Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1834 Phhiladelphia co STEELE, REBECCA. Phila. Widow of James. June 21, 1783. January 7, 1784. Children: Elizabeth (wife of James Wallace), Henry and James. Grandchildren: James, Hannah and John Steele (children of Henry); Rebecca, Robert, Elizabeth, John, William and Mary (children of James). Exec. and Trustee: daughter in law Mary Bartram (wife of Isaac). Negro: Sisley. Witnesses: Peter Thomson, Sr. and, Jr. and Geo. Goodman. Codicil. 11 mo. 26, 1783. Witnesses: Isaac Bartram and Rebecca Wallace. (Q:475) ======================== Sandra Ferguson wrote: > > There was a fairly large family of Steels in Chester, descendants of Ninian Steele, who came from the north of Ireland and settled in New London twp. He died in 1745, leaving several children, but none that I can find named John. I did find an "unattatched" John in another Steele family, the son of Gen. James Steele. The Gen's. son, James, was a member of the legislature, and resident of Fallowfield, and served in the War of 1812..... a son John is also mentioned, but nothing more than a name. From: Kathryn Weiss <buckeye@thegrid.net> To: Sandra Ferguson PA-Old-Chester-L Interesting. There is a Ninian Steele and a Robert Steele (and Luke Hamilton), on the Rowan County Tax List, now Iredell Co. area, taxables in the Fort Dobbs NC area for the year 1772, on the same tax list as the Carrickfergus Dobbins who were in Lancaster & Chester by 1740, and Rowan co by 1750. Are Ninian & Robert the same families? There may be other Chester names on this tax list - I don't know the Chester names well. But, I've been keeping an eye out for info on this Robert Steele. I'll see if I can find anything about Gen. James' son John - he may be the John Steele who ended up high in govt service, Mississippi, I think, childless. From: "Sandra Ferguson" -PA-Old-Chester-L To: "Kathryn Weiss" <buckeye@thegrid.net> Ninian had 4 sons - Robert, Samuel, Ninian and William. Samuel died in 1760, leaving 11 children, the sons - Robert, Samuel, Francis, Joseph, James, William and Ninian. the descendants of James moved to Western VA. Wm. son of Samuel had 1 son, John but he lived in Chester. "A branch of Ninian Steels, about the period of the Revolution, went to North Carolina,, and settled in the neighborhood of Charlotte "...this , from the History Of Chester Co. ============================================