Replying to Barb Petty's message: (snip) B>I don't even find any mention at all of Daniel. What source (and I'm B>looking for some primary source - is there a death record somewhere?) B>refers to him? I find nothing about him in Bond's WATERTOWN, but I don't B>have all the STEARNS pages. Was he mentioned by Bond? Neither a Daniel or B>Charles (except the latter referred to in Isaac's article) were mentioned B>by Anderson in TGMB as having come before 1633. Savage mentions no Daniel. B>He only refers to Charles, Isaac and Nathaniel (and does not connect the B>latter man, who showed up in Dedham about 1647, with the other two B>immigrants). But Savage did occasionally miss some immigrants. Daniel is mentioned in Avis Stearns VanWagenen's book, "Genealogy and Memoirs of Charles and Nathaniel Stearns": "there is a tradition prevalent in Lynn, Mass., that three brother(s), named Daniel, Isaac and Shubael Stearns, came from England to America in 1630, and settled near Watertown, Mass.; that Daniel died, unmarried; that Shubael and Isaac each brought their families with them; that, soon after landing, Shubael and wife both died, leaving two sons, named Charles and Nathaniel, eight or ten years of age, who were reared and cared for by their Uncle Isaac ... Isaac, Charles and Nathaniel all named their sons John, Isaac and Samuel..." B>What source can you cite which lists Charles, Daniel and Nathaniel as siblings? None. Daniel was supposedly the uncle of Charles and Nathaniel per above cited source. I believe this is also repeated in the book on the German Starnes line, "Of Them that Left a Name Behind" by H. Gerald Starnes & Herman Starnes. B>So at least we can now scratch that first Shubael? Not yet. Let's see what unfolds.