Jim, I hope you don't think I'm flaming you or trying to embarrass you. I'm really just trying to get at the facts. B>I don't even find any mention at all of Daniel. J>Daniel is mentioned in Avis Stearns VanWagenen's book, "Genealogy and Memoirs J>of Charles and Nathaniel Stearns": J>"there is a tradition prevalent in Lynn, Mass., that three brother(s), named J>Daniel, Isaac and Shubael Stearns, came from England to America in 1630, and Ah....it's just a "tradition" then, not backed up by fact? I know that Ms VanWagenen probably felt that she had to mention it, but was she doing any favors for descendants then who cling to the old traditions to the point of disregarding the facts? I welcome anyone who can come forth with any proof of any kind which would support this old "tradition." J>.. Isaac, Charles and Nathaniel all named their sons John, Isaac and J>Samuel..." Savage did not list a son Isaac for Nathaniel. Did he miss him? He named only Samuel, Nathaniel and James. Only Samuel was a name common to all three men. However, Charles named a daughter Martha (for his mother?). Naturally he would have named a son Charles. Charles is mentioned as having gone to Lynn soon after 1681 where he died in 1695. >B>What source can you cite which lists Charles, Daniel and Nathaniel as >siblings? J>None. Thank you for your honesty. :) >B>So at least we can now scratch that first Shubael? J>Not yet. Let's see what unfolds. I'm very anxious to see what unfolds. C'mon people! Barb Petty bpetty@erols.com