Trying to find out any information on Joseph Starn and his descendents. He was born in Maryland in 1757. He finally ended up in Virginia, married and landed in Adams County Ohio to raise his family. I am especially interested in information on his son Joseph or any other relations.

Although my paternal Starnes line comes from the flatlands of Union Co, NC, down near Charlotte, I've found a connection on my maternal side to the high country Starnes' of the NC mountains. Just outside Asheville, NC, in Buncombe Co, is an area called Starnes' Cove. Never been there but I recall seeing it listed on some of the buses running near my aunt's house in West Asheville when I was a kid. Does anyone have an info on the mountain Starnes line? My maternal ggf married a Glenn who was the daughter of a Starnes. Thanks. Bill

The information below came from the Van Wagenen book about Isaac Stearns and his descendants. I can't quite figure out (in the book) who the parents of Daniel Stearns (died 1867) were. If anyone can give me his parents names, I'll try to locate them in the book and post the line to the list. Thanks in advance for any help that you can give me! Jeanne email: j-hayes@mindspring.com _______________________________________________________ Descendants of Daniel Stearns 1 Daniel Stearns d: 25 August 1867 . +Phoebe Ann Rounds b: in of Schroon Lake, New York d: 26 May 1866 m: 1818 .. 2 Warren A. Stearns b: 1819 ...... +Lorena Brower b: in of Oneida County, New York m: 1839 ....... 3 Sarah Stearns b: 1840 d: 1893 ........... +Edward Wilmot ....... 3 Georgiana Stearns b: 1842 ........... +John Logan ....... 3 John Stearns b: 1845 d: 1885 ....... 3 James Stearns b: 1849 d: 1849 ....... 3 Lorenzo Stearns b: 1851 d: 1888 ....... 3 Luella Stearns b: 1853 ........... +Warren Button ....... 3 Francelia Stearns b: 1855 d: 1860 ....... 3 Alta Jane Stearns b: 1860 ........... +John Miller .. 2 Hannah Maria Stearns b: 4 January 1822 in Schaghticoke, New York ...... +James Barker b: in of Bridgewater, Connecticut m: 3 May 1838 .. 2 Elizabeth Stearns ...... +Sylvester Brightman b: in of Genoa, Cayuga County, New York .. 2 James Gaylord Stearns d: 1874 in Cayuga County, New York ...... +Sarah Fritts .. 2 Daniel P. Stearns b: in Camden, New York d: 1894 in Madison County, New York .. 2 Laura Ann Stearns b: in Camden, New York ...... +William Wood b: in of Albion, New York

I found a Samuel Cushman, who was born in Portsmouth, N.H. on June 8, 1783. He died in Portsmouth on May 20, 1851. Does anyone know if this is the Samuel Cushman who married Betsey Stearns? Betsey was born December 13, 1793, daughter of Josiah and Sarah (Whittier) Stearns. Betsey was probably born in the northeast, possibly in Massachusetts. The time frame certainly fits. Thanks for any help you can give me! Jeanne email : j-hayes@mindspring.com

According to the Van Wagenen book about Isaac Stearns . . . (page 517) Charles Stearns, born Mar. 15, 1814, son of Daniel and Elizabeth (Heywood) Stearns, of Vermont; married March 1845, Elvira Statira Jones, daughter of Alexander and Louisa Jones, of Jamestown, Chautauqua Co., N. Y. According to the Bond book on Watertown, Massachusetts . . . . (page 513) Charles Stearns, born in Brattleboro, Vt., Mar. 15, 1814; married March 1845, in Jamestown, Chatauque Co., N.Y., Elvira Statira, daughter of Ellie and Louisa Jones of Jamestown, Chatauque Co., N.Y. Can anyone tell me which of these is correct? It seems that the Van Wagenen would be more likely to be correct . The Bond entry doesn't have Elvira as having the same last name as her parents. So . . . is it Elvira Statira or Elvira Statira Jones? And is her father Ellie Jones or Alexander Jones? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me! Jeanne Hayes email: j-hayes@mindspring.com

My apologies to the group if this gets through, but my ISP's mail server went down for a few days and I think my bounced mail unsubbed me from several mail lists. I am just trying to determine which unsubbed me and which are just temporarily slow. Sorry for any inconvenience. Scott Ives -------------------------------------------------- skives@spacestar.com --------------------------------------------------

In a message dated 97-08-15 00:52:59 EDT, you write: << Thanks for any help that anyone can give me >> Sometimes you can just rename it, putting the extension as .ged You would need to make sure all the extra "email stuff" is stripped off though. So, you could also cut and paste into a wp file and save it as .ged. Those might work.... Peggy Sue

Several months ago someone sent me a copy of their Stearns gedcom via email. Unfortunately, they seem to have set their Attachment Options to "Put attachment in body of message." This caused the gedcom to arrive as a LARGE text file. Does anybody know if there is a way that I can convert it back to a gedcom file, and not a text file?? Thanks for any help that anyone can give me. Jeanne email: j-hayes@mindspring.com

I found a Samuel Cushman, who was born in Portsmouth, N.H. on June 8, 1783. He died in Portsmouth on May 20, 1851. Does anyone know if this is the Samuel Cushman who married Betsey Stearns? Betsey was born December 13, 1793, daughter of Josiah and Sarah (Whittier) Stearns. Betsey was probably born in the northeast, possibly in Massachusetts. The time frame certainly fits. Thanks for any help you can give me! Jeanne email : j-hayes@mindspring.com

According to the Van Wagenen book : Warren Stearns is the son of Daniel and Phoebe Ann (Rounds) Stearns. The had 6 children : Warren A. Stearns, born 1819 Hannah Maria Stearns, born Jan. 4, 1822 at Schaghticoke ,N. Y. Elizabeth Stearns, birth date unknown James Gaylord Stearns, birth date unknown Daniel P. Stearns, born in Camden, N.Y., unknown birth date Laura Ann Stearns, born in Camden, N.Y., unknown birth date About the son Warren A. Stearns . . . a farmer, of Albion, Orleans County, N.Y. ; married in 1839 to Lorena Brower, of Oneida County, N.Y. They had the following 8 children: Sarah - born 1840, married Edward Eilmot. Sarah died in 1893. Georgiana - born in 1842, married John Logan. John - born in 1845, died in 1885. James - born and died in 1849. Lorenzo - born in 1851 and died in 1888. Luella - born in 1853, married Warren Button. Francelia - born in 1855 and died in 1860. Alta Jane - born in 1860, married John Miller. I have more information about the Stearns line preceding Warren A. Stearns, that is . . his parents, grandparents, etc. Please ask if you need more information. At 03:48 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >This is the STEARNS family I am researching. > >Warren STEARNS (b.1818, Essex Co.[?], NY; d.aft.1900) > m.Lorana (b.1821, Oneida Co., NY; d.aft.1900) >Children: > (1) Sarah (b.ca.1839, Cayuga Co.[?], NY) > (2) Georgianna (b.ca.1841/2, Oneida Co., NY) > (3) John (b.ca.1845/7, Oswego Co., NY) > (4) Lorenzo (b.ca.1848, Oswego Co., NY) > (5) Ambrosia (b.ca.1852, VT[?]) > (6) Katherine (b.1863, Oswego Co.,NY [?]; d.1887, bur. Dugway, > Oswego Co., NY) > m. John W. MILLER (b.1855; d.1913) > (7) Elta/Eltsie > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. >********************************************************************** >Ed Shephard, History Bibliographer/Reference Librarian >Glenn G. Bartle Library P.O. Box 6012 >Binghamton University >Binghamton, NY 13902-6012 >eshephar@library.lib.binghamton.edu > >

This is the STEARNS family I am researching. Warren STEARNS (b.1818, Essex Co.[?], NY; d.aft.1900) m.Lorana (b.1821, Oneida Co., NY; d.aft.1900) Children: (1) Sarah (b.ca.1839, Cayuga Co.[?], NY) (2) Georgianna (b.ca.1841/2, Oneida Co., NY) (3) John (b.ca.1845/7, Oswego Co., NY) (4) Lorenzo (b.ca.1848, Oswego Co., NY) (5) Ambrosia (b.ca.1852, VT[?]) (6) Katherine (b.1863, Oswego Co.,NY [?]; d.1887, bur. Dugway, Oswego Co., NY) m. John W. MILLER (b.1855; d.1913) (7) Elta/Eltsie Any help would be greatly appreciated. ********************************************************************** Ed Shephard, History Bibliographer/Reference Librarian Glenn G. Bartle Library P.O. Box 6012 Binghamton University Binghamton, NY 13902-6012 eshephar@library.lib.binghamton.edu

Hi All, I've noticed there are few STARNES family researchers on this list now. Here is my family info (note: info was taken from a cousin who wrote letters to my aunt almost 30 years ago... this was the best I could do to put these people in order, but I may be wrong on where some of these people fit on the tree): +1 Marion Starnes m:Mary Dudley +2 Martin G.(Augusta) Starnes b:1870 Ackworth Paulding,GA m:(#1)Easter Matthews(?) +3 Ollie Lee Starnes (O.L.) b:1896 Lion or Alberville,AL m:Imogene UNK b:1919 Sweetwater,TX +4 Easter (Starnes) Fowler b:1935 Las Cruces,NM +4 (Son) Starnes b:1939 La Union,NM m:(#2)Unknown +3 Claude Ray Starnes b:1903 AL m:(#3)Ida Margaret Sprague b:1880 DeQueen,AR +3 Corinne Althea Starnes b:1916 Wilcox,AZ m:Elvin Rufus Leavelle b:1913 Shreveport,LA +4 Maurice Elvin Leavelle b:1934 Las Cruces,NM +4 Rochelle Evelyn Leavelle b:1938 Gardena,CA +4 Kevin Eugene Leavelle b:1940 Lynwood,CA +2 Hiram Starnes m:Unk Bannister +3 Beatrice (Starnes) McDill *lived in TN-1970 +3 Clara (Starnes) Hicks *lived in AL-1970 +3 Charley Starnes *lived in AL-1970 +2 Della Starnes m:Unk Bannister (?) +2 George Starnes m:Unknown +3(?) Tom Starnes *lived in AL-1970 +3(?) Pearl (Starnes) Leveck(?) *lived in AL-1970 If any of this is close to what you have, please contact me, Thank you, Lucinda

This name is used "excessively" as a middle name in my McClellan/McKinley lineages in NC. I have a missing Starnes female down that way too, so I thought I'd put my two cents worth in. Martha Starnes b. ca 1839 in NC m. in 1854 to Eli Linker b. ca 1829 in NC. Eli died in the Civil War and it is believe Martha Starnes Linker married Calvin Allman in Sept 1864 dying a short time later as Calvin marries again. I'd love hearing about the name "Statira" if you figure anything out, and of course anything on a Martha born about 1839 give a few years... don't think she could be any younger. Thanks, Peggy Sue Wilson pwilson411@aol.com http://members.aol.com/PWilson411/indexe.html <<According to the Van Wagenen book about Isaac Stearns . . . (page 517) Charles Stearns, born Mar. 15, 1814, son of Daniel and Elizabeth (Heywood) Stearns, of Vermont; married March 1845, Elvira Statira Jones, daughter of Alexander and Louisa Jones, of Jamestown, Chautauqua Co., N. Y. According to the Bond book on Watertown, Massachusetts . . . . (page 513) Charles Stearns, born in Brattleboro, Vt., Mar. 15, 1814; married March 1845, in Jamestown, Chatauque Co., N.Y., Elvira Statira, daughter of Ellie and Louisa Jones of Jamestown, Chatauque Co., N.Y. Can anyone tell me which of these is correct? It seems that the Van Wagenen would be more likely to be correct . The Bond entry doesn't have Elvira as having the same last name as her parents. So . . . is it Elvira Statira or Elvira Statira Jones? And is her father Ellie Jones or Alexander Jones? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!

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I would like to find others tracing the same bloodlines; REBECCA STEARNS (1794-?) M 1812 SAMUEL JEWETT CRAFTS (1792-1872) B WESTFORD, MIDDLESEX CO., MA. THEY HAD A SON EPHRAIM JEWETT CRAFTS, B 1831 IN HARTFORD, WINDSOR CO., VT. I would like to learn Rebecca's parents and other ancestors and their families. Please e-mail me. Thanks, ktomecek@aol.com

Hi group, It has been a while since I posted this so I thought that I would try again. I'm looking to contact anyone with info about the ancestors and/or the family of John Starns,Sr. b. abt 1831 married twice: m. Samantha ? (we think HANKS but have no proof yet) in 1851 in Bowie County, TX; and then m. Martha STOMMER abt 1880. He settled in Judsonia, ARK. He had the following children: Henry, John Jr., Renda, Bessie, and Andy Starns. John Starns, Jr. may have purchased 160 arces of land in Independence County, AR in 1885. If so then his middle initial was C. Any info would be most appreciated. Don Latham

Bill & Gayle, there is a real disconnect here. The predominant theory is that if there really was a Shubael Stearns, father of Charles and Nathaniel, then he died in the Boston/Watertown/Cambridge area shortly after his arrival (ca. 1631. There are 3 different schools of thought relative to his lineage - those like me who think the legend is too strong to be untrue, but only know that he must have been related to Isaac Stearns, and can't definitively place him in the offspring of William and Emma. Then there are those who believe he was Isaac's brother and place him as a son of William and Emma. Then there is the Threlfall school, who apparently accept a recent work by John B. Threlfall, and that would indicate an entirely different lineage for Charles and Isaac, I believe. I don't have the work or its title, but perhaps we could coax Barb Petty, who apparently has the book, to chime in on this one. We had anticipated a debate when she brought out this info earlier this year, but the list members just didn't get involved. I think that the Threlfall theory ignores the existence of Shubael or Daniel, alleged brothers of Isaac, and Nathaniel, likely Charles places Charles as the son of Charles STERNE and Martha HASALL/LASALL and that this Charles was the older brother of Isaac, and a son of Thomas STERNE and Dorothy PLAMPIN. Whatever the case, I think you need to modify your estimate for the death of Shubael (to ca. 1631) if you accept him as Charles' father. Jim ____________________________ Reply Separator ________________________________ Subject: Shubael Stearns Author: STEARNS-L@rootsweb.com at Internet Date: 7/30/97 10:06 PM Howdy folks, New to the list.... we're looking for information about the family of SHUBAEL STEARNS (b. 1598 Yarmouth, Eng., d. c1653). We know he was the son of WILLIAM & EMMA (RAMSFORD) STEARNS, but don't know much else about him. His son, CHARLES, married REBECCA GIBSON. But what did these folks do.... occupation, hobbies, community involvement, etc.? The closest, good genealogical library is about 2 hours away... so we've turned to the Net. Any help would be appreciated..... Bill & Gayle

Hello, Group! If you are replying to Bill and Gayle about Shubael Stearns would you kindly reply to the group. I am also very interested in this issue, especially about the mystery of the very existence of Shubael Stearns. My husband is supposedly descended from him. Thankyou. Adrienne

Howdy folks, New to the list.... we're looking for information about the family of SHUBAEL STEARNS (b. 1598 Yarmouth, Eng., d. c1653). We know he was the son of WILLIAM & EMMA (RAMSFORD) STEARNS, but don't know much else about him. His son, CHARLES, married REBECCA GIBSON. But what did these folks do.... occupation, hobbies, community involvement, etc.? The closest, good genealogical library is about 2 hours away... so we've turned to the Net. Any help would be appreciated..... Bill & Gayle

Hello, Is anyone out there searching for the Stirrat name in the Huntingdon, Quebec area? I have a William Stirrat(no dates) married to Jean Steven, b. Scotland,1819, emigrated to Quebec in 1831, d.1892. They were probably married in Scotland. Known children are Jean and Janet. Janet, b. abt 1839, married James Smellie. I have information on some of the descendents of James and Janet. Heather Smiley hsmiley@netcom.ca