In a message dated 8/9/2006 11:41:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shall@pacbell.net writes: Please excuse my ignorance..... but what are the haplogroup R!a and R1b ? "There are 5 Groups that use the Statler spelling. Only the origin of the Statler family of Missouri has been found. They are haplogroup R1a. See Group 14 at my website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/ Most of the other Groups are R1b."