I was interested in your reference to a group 10 in the Stateler line. Mine does not match yours. I hope this is not to confusing, I have tried to list our family in a readable format. Stephen "Stradler" Stateler (my GGGG Grandfather) b abt 1710 Germany Wife unknown Children: John b 5/4/1732 Germany Catherine b abt 1740 Germany Jacob b abt 1748 Germany Joseph b abt 1750 Michael Cornelius b 1762 PA George (my GGG Grandfather) b 1766 PA Stephen B. b 1770 PA George married Elizabeth Smithers Children: Joseph Susanna b abt 1810 KY Jacob (my GG Grandfather) b 1811 Ohio County KY Tulauah Elizabeth b abt 1814 KY William b 1820 Spencer County IN Mary Jane b 1823 Spencer County IN Mary Elizabeth b 1833 Spencer County IN Jacob married Keziah Lawwell (1st marriage) Children: Mary b 1833 IN William b 1835 IN Susan b 1837 Spencer County IN Jane b 1838 Spencer County IN Joseph b 1841 Spencer County IN Luther b 1843 Spencer County IN John b 1844 Spencer County IN Jacob married Sarah Ann Harris (2nd marriage) Children: Samuel Tilden (my G Grandfather) b 1877 Spencer County IN Jacob Taylor b 1880 Spencer County IN Ettie Jane b 1883 Spencer County IN Samuel Tilden married Minnie M. Wire Children: Virgil b 1897 Spencer County IN Vernie (my Grandfather) b 1899 Spencer County IN Bertram b 1905 IN Raymond b 1910 Spencer County IN Vernie married Amelia M. Frank Children: Joseph Samuel (my Father) b 1919 Spencer County IN Josephine b 1921 Spencer County IN Mary Elizabeth b 1924 Spencer County IN Robert Jake b 1929 Spencer County IN Joseph married Zella Colmon Children: Marva Jo (me) b 1940 Spencer County IN Norman Gene b 1942 Spencer County IN Geri Ann b 1955 Owensboro KY