Hi all, It's Susanne (Susie) Jones, co-worker, friend, relative, fellow genealogist, etc. As of Monday, 7-14-02 this will be the only e-mail address I have. <djones2@ma.rr.com> <fsc01023@mail.wvnet.edu> will no longer work! Hope to figure out how to use my "new toy" by then! Susie

Welcome: It's been awhile since I've posted some hints and guidelines for this mailing list. This memo has been a joint effort with Sue Swiggum from the The Ships List. She has a creative writing ability and creates these really wonderful posts every 3 months or so. . I've modified the memo to cover our particular situation as compared to her list and added some other tidbits that I've accumulated over the years. I'd like to see her publish a book on the subject of Internet Mailing Lists quirks. Hope it's useful for you. Best Regards John A Hansen List Admin ++ Gateways I've set up gateways from most of the message boards. This increases the amount of messages to this list. The usage pattern on the message boards is much more informal than here. However, I've seen many cases where people are tracking the same brick walls for obvious reasons. An elusive ancestor is the same on the mailing list and the message boards. But while the post from the message boards comes this way. the posts from the mailing list do NOT go back to the board. You need to click on the URL in the message and reply "over there" Then your reply will also come back here to this mailing list. ++Subject Lines -- Subject Lines -- Subject Lines -- Subject Lines -- plus ... a few tidbits and gentle reminders which you might find useful. Regarding "Subject Lines" .... you'll see my other comments for Digest members below. Do include your surnames ( in Caps) in the subject line > location > dates and then include them again in the body of your message where you give the full details of your ancestor. If your details are sketchy at this point, then just put what ever you do have; sometimes the most minor of details can often provide the breakthrough. Subject lines such as "HELP" may not get you any HELP ... "NEW SUBSCRIBER" may only get you a HELLO if you are lucky. The reason is not because you are being intentionally ignored, but rather because our wonderful members with the resources to help you are VERY busy, so they scan the subject lines looking for a subject about which they have knowledge. Sometimes they have no time to open every message and peek to see if they can help, so do yourselves a big favor by drawing the right kind of attention to yourself and giving an assist to those with the resources and knowledge who are able to help. If you are making a general or other emigration/immigration inquiry, take a moment to read your own subject line first, to check if it is meaningful for your query. Put as much info in the subject line as can be reasonably done. Try not to _begin_ your subject line with numbers, as the robot handling the list mail sometimes rejects those. ps. A list member (who is one of our big helpers) has also suggested that when any of us respond to a message with an inappropriate subject line, that we alter it slightly. I do this sometimes, but on a busy day I sometimes overlook this step. ++ AOL and SPAM filters There has been a new trend for subscribers to set up filters to screen out unwanted emails. Unfortunately, it sometimes also restricts the receipt of messages from Rootsweb. When the message is rejected, it automatically triggers a auto bounce counter here at Rootsweb. "After 4 there is no more" to plagiarize an old advertising theme :-). ++ Answering: If you able to answer another member's query, then please share that answer with other list members ... UNLESS, the reply is very specifically directed to the poster [such as, "we have a Bill Smith living next door ... could he be yours?"] If your answer will be of interest to other list members, such as immigration, marriages, dates, ports, microfilm numbers, "how-to" research immigration/emigration related sources etc., etc., then please share that with the list. ++ Quoting: When responding to a query on the list, by all means quote the original message so that we ALL know what you are talking about. BUT, edit <snip> the original message to just illustrate the part which you have answered. On the recent roll call for instance, the actual post for the roll call should have been snipped. ++ <snip>'s: As mentioned above, "snipping" [editing] is recommended, to save from excessive "quoting" and wasting band-width by filling up the Digests. List Mode members, also <snip> the 'tag-lines' from the original post, and refrain from sending any "piggy-backed" messages with your post unless they follow the thread. ++ Forwarding Mail: When forwarding mail [Fwd:] because you may have mis-addressed the original or you are sending a repeat of an earlier query, take a moment to edit all the unnecessary 'headers' and taglines etc. They take up too much room, and serve no purpose. Some may just "delete" rather than paging down to find your message. Consider copy/paste into a new message, rather than "Fwd:". ++ CAPS: Do not write your message in "CAPS" [Capital letters]. Messages/Queries written ALL in CAPS tend to be difficult to read, for most of us. In the "world" of cyber-space, CAPS are considered the equivalent of SHOUTING! Save CAPS for ship names, surnames, or anything else you wish to stress. (CAPS are okay from vision-impaired members) ++ WebPages: Do not "quote" an entire web page, rather, POST the URL and give a brief description of the site, and an explanation of why you found it useful. ++ Citing: When quoting any information found elsewhere, eg. ... a web page, a book, a document .. always cite (give credit) to the website, and/or the author, the publication etc. Apart from being common courtesy, it can also cover many possible copyright infringements when you quote an excerptfrom an original document/publication. Content from a public document is not copyright, but the compilation of those facts can be. ++ Subject Lines: These are SO important as this is your "headline" to attract the attention of those who may be able to help you. Digest members ..... remember to change the subject line to reflect the topic. If you send a subject which says ... Re: Surname-D Digest V02 #xx ... then this is meaningless, and may go unread. Also, include your year of interest. ++ Thank you: Please NEVER forget to send a thank you to someone who has answered your query. It is so nice to send some appreciation to those who have helped you. These should be in the form of a PRIVATE message, but I won't mind if you have been totally overwhelmed by the number of responses, and you wish to thank everyone by means of the list. :-) It only takes a moment, and shows that you don't take any contribution for granted. ++ Reply Most often any info request etc should be posted to the list Surname-L@rootsweb.com. Do not reply to me as list admin because I then just forward to the list..later..maybe :-) Please reply to the List even if you are on the Digest as in Surname-D@rootsweb.com. ++ Not A Subscriber. You will sometimes get a "Not A Subscriber" notice. These are posts that get bounced to me because the poster is sending from a different address than they are subscribed with. I usually forward these to the list. The address that you are registered with can be just slightly different, sometimes the ISP inserts a extra server or other identification in the email id. To check your own address, send your self a email and look at the headers to look at your "from" address. Make sure your email program inserts this address in your post and then subscribe to the mailing lists of your choice. Some ISP ( MSN especially) adds "hotmail"or "email" on some kind of random basis to your "from" address. The Rootsweb computer sees that as a totally different address and will bounce that to me. I usually forward when I can , but there is a delay. ++ Virus alerts Please just send these directly to me and keep the discussion off the mailing list. There is a really good Virus mailing list here at Rootsweb Join by sending an email to VIRUS-DISCUSSION-L-request@rootsweb.com with subscribe in the body of message. I can also refer you to any number of good Virus sites and sites for Free Anti-Virus software. For the first time, if you do get infected, then I delete your account and send a notice message to you. The second time results in a reject notice on your account. I will send out Virus Alerts from time to time after verifying with several Virus web sites. I do subscribe to several newsletters and "honey pots" to get early warnings about upcoming Viruses. There is a wide difference of opinion about the question of even the List Admin sending out Virus Alerts. I will be happy to debate the point off line but I can declare now that in my opinion, the possibility of saving even one person the pain of losing their work is worth one delete message. The virus industry has changed dramatically over the last two years and that changed my opinion. ++ Virus Updates to the software There is a separate and important fact that everyone needs to know. The AntiVirus software program is out of date when you purchase and install it. The Software Programs work on checking a pattern of words against a known database of viruses. There are new viruses introduced each day of each week. So your AV program needs to be updated very often ( at least once a week) I update mine every night. Most programs have an auto update feature. I've set mine to update at 2 AM. Now it also goes that don't lean back and sigh if you have you've got AV software. The AV software is your last line of defense ; not your first. Don't open attachments etc etc. Some of the new viruses are really tricky in their descriptions ( warning from Microsoft come to mind) and double extensions etc etc. There are viruses now being seen at some of the test sites, that are sent in the pure text messages. Currently you can not get a virus from the message from Rootsweb. It's your friends, family and people that you correspond with that do you in :-). ++ Signature Blocks Signature Blocks and Lines are your address at the bottom of your message. No signatures lines over 4 lines. The VLF will automatically put anybody on moderate that can't seem to get their sig line down. Large sig lines clog up the search engine and the archives. "VLF is a patented system from Piglet (the Listowners admin) and she rents it out for a royalty fee per use. VLF = Very Large Flyswatter to keep posters in line :-) ++ Bounces We all get bounced from time to time. It's not a signal that we don't love you. The Rootsweb email server keeps track of how many times a message to you has bounced back. Most times it'd due to you exceeding a limit at your email service. Most of the free Email servers ( Yahoo, Hotmail Netzero ) have very low limits , usually 2 meg of mail. In today's world of big messages that happens very fast. A weekend away can fill your email box pretty fast. So the post from these lists then gets returned. "After 4 there is no more" and the "bouncer" steps in and removes your address. Don't get upset, merely resubscribe and go on. You might want to check the archives to see if there is any missed messages to you. ++ Archives. Every message ever posted is archived here at Rootsweb. So if you're joining because you now found that this surname or topic is hot on your priority list, then check the archives to see what has already been posted. You can go to the home page at www.rootsweb.com and pick up the archives from there. The archives are located at www.archiver.rootsweb.com if you want to bypass home and go direct :-) ++ Contact the List Admin You can always contact any list admin by sending an email to XXXX-admin@rootsweb.com. XXXX = name of the list. My email is below for direct reference. ++ Unsubscribe Please send an email directly to the request server at XXXXX-L-request@rootsweb.com and merely put unsubscribe in the body of the message. To get on this list you had sent a message with subscribe. So to get off, you merely just tell the computer unsubscribe. Remember this is HAL. Remember this is HAL, Remember this is HAL etc etc. ++ Address Changes We all have address changes in our life. It's a fact of life in this Internet world we live in. So to update your address: A: Send an email to unsubscribe. Please note that you need to use the original email address to do so. On almost every email software program, you can install or keep the original email address. It's there in the from box of the message. You might have to call up the "options" tab to see it. B: Then send an email to subscribe the new address. Please use the new address as it looks in your email server when you created your new account. ++ Posting to the Mail List. All Inquires and mail should only go directly to the mail list. The address to post to is XXXX-L@rootsweb.com. Messages sent to to the XXXXX-L-request@rootsweb.com will bounce back to me. Since most of those bounces are misc. they wind up getting deleted. So your pleas to get help to find that one elusive ancestor is gone into the ether someplace. Any other address will bounce to me and then be deleted. There are many ways that various spam artists are trying to post to the list and wind up bouncing to the admin. They are all deleted. So your important message regarding an ancestor line or a response to someone will probably be deleted. ++ USE your one and only Official Subscribed Address Most of the problems regarding posting, unsubscribing etc are due to a difference in the "from" address in your email program and the "reply to". You were subscribed to the "reply to" address automatically. The computer ( HAL) looks only at your "from" address. That "from" address must match the subscribed address. So if you changed the "from" address for some reason then no message. The computer will only accept mail from registered subscribed users. When the address doesn't match exactly, it bounces. I sometimes get a copy but not always. Take a look at the welcome message that you received for this list. Please keep that message. It tells you exactly what address was subscribed and will be accepted for posting. Make sure all email you send is "from" that address. The Rootsweb computer "Hal" just never sleeps and never lets a message get by with an "almost correct" address. Remember this is HAL, Remember this is HAL ++ Be Nice No Flames, No Selling, No Religion, No Politics These are all interesting and emotional items. Trying to admin a list under those circumstance just takes too much time from my own Genealogy and my Grandchildren :-) Hope all this helps. Best Regards John A Hansen jahansen@qwest.net List Admin BTW: From time to time I get some questions about my own background etc. There is a summary at: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/spotlight/hansen_j.html

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june 1 what time is get together 7 where in waterloo brads father hervie a statler.

Someone emailed me wanting information on Pearl Stateler. I have lost that email. Marva Stateler mstateler@aol.com

In a message dated 05/03/2002 2:16:57 PM Central Daylight Time, BradStatler@aol.com writes: > Julie, > > Where is the Statler family reunion June 1st ? > > Brad Statler > Brad, it's in Red Bud, Illinois, which is about an hour south of St. Louis, Missouri. My great-aunt Agnes lives there (my grandmother's sister). She is the daughter of Floyd Elga Statler/Blanche Dempster... Floyd was the son of Rowland Jefferson Statler/Eva Roe... Rowland was the son of Peter Statler (b. 1823). I'm new at this, so I'm not sure if I wrote this correctly. Julie <A HREF="http://preservationjunction.com/">Preservation Junction</A> Discounted Scrapbooking Supplies

Julie, Where is the Statler family reunion June 1st ? Brad Statler

Rush and the Statler's are related

Rush Limbaugh's mother Mildred "Millie" Carolyn Armstrong Limbaugh died on March 3, 2000. Lea Renfro

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Rush Limbaugh's mother, who did live in Cape, died--I think it was this past year. Sharon Steele

In a message dated 04/30/2002 7:24:18 PM Central Daylight Time, nblanset@tcac.net writes: > is it possible that Rush LIMBAUGH is a STATLER descendant ? > I do know that Cape Girardeau is his hometown and his mom still lives there. That would be interesting if he was a descendant. Julie Siemer

More details from the rootsweb chain: (backward through time) Rush Hudson Limbaugh III Rush Hudson Limbaugh Jr & Mildred Carolyn Armstrong Rush Hudson Limbaugh Sr & Beulah Maude SEABAUGH Francis Emerson SEABAUGH & Emma E EISENBERG Peter SEABAUGH & Sarah Hartle Peter SEABAUGH & Christina Statler Johann Peter STADLER & Anna Catharine HOLLWEIN Johan Adam STADLER & Susanna CATHERINA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

according to the statler family database, he is related: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/ Decendant of Christina STatler (great-great-great-great grandmother) ugh. My husband is loving this too much. --- Julie08080@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 04/30/2002 7:24:18 PM Central > Daylight Time, > nblanset@tcac.net writes: > > > > is it possible that Rush LIMBAUGH is a STATLER > descendant ? > > > > I do know that Cape Girardeau is his hometown and > his mom still lives there. > That would be interesting if he was a descendant. > > Julie Siemer > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

Catherine, I will be seeing some of the Statlers from that area on June 1st during a small Statler reunion. My great-aunt Statlers are in their 80s and grew up there so I will ask them if they knew her and let you know. Julie

is it possible that Rush LIMBAUGH is a STATLER descendant ? Norman Blansett > > From: STATLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > Date: 2002/04/30 Tue PM 03:02:19 CDT > To: STATLER-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: STATLER-D Digest V02 #10 > > STATLER-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 10 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [STATLER] Hints on Message Boards ["John A Hansen" <jahansen@qwest.ne] > #2 [STATLER] Stephen Stradler>PA>1700 [MStateler@aol.com] > #3 [STATLER] Re: STATLER-D Digest V02 [CLADYC@webtv.net (CATHERINE BELL)] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from STATLER-D, send a message to > > STATLER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the STATLER-D list administrator, send mail to > STATLER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > Dear All: > > Some of you have posted really nice and comprehensive > descriptions of your brick walls on the roll call. There is also > an very interesting method to utilize the combined benefits > of the message boards and the mailing lists that could be > of use to everyone. > > We can use of the archiving capability of the message board > and the address of the URL of that message to keep your > information available and easy to reach for viewers. > > The process is: > > A: Most genealogy software programs will allow you to segment a > specific portion of the family tree. So create the descendants tree > or ancestry tree in your program or from your ancestry files > and then copy that to the clipboard. > B: Open the message board at www.rootsweb.com > for the specific surname and or Clan. > C: Create a new post and copy the material of the ancestor > from above into that post. > D: Go to Tools or other options on your email program and open > the sig lines feature option > E: Create the Sig Line block in your email program > Insert the name of the brick wall or person at the top of the chart > along with the highlights of location and time etc. This is effectively > your subject lines so make it eye catching and complete. Then copy > the message URL into the next line just below the subject line. > E: You now have a 2 line sig line! It lets a viewer go to the same > reference point by merely clicking on the URL. If they reply, then > you will get that reply automatically. It also gathers all the > information > on that ancestor in one location so you have a stream of replies for > all > to see and comment on. That URL becomes a universal locator for > you to add to all your outgoing messages and other messages. > Especially > if you have a lot of documentation etc it will help to confirm to > other > viewers that this is the right tree. > F: Then when you post to the SURNAME-L@rootsweb.com "insert" and select > the appropriate sig line in that message instead of merely the long > line of > surnames that nobody really looks at. It will then be a sig line of > interest > to people in that mailing list with a really easy way to check to see > if > it fits their family lines. This allows you to post your SPECIFIC brick > wall on > every post to that specific surname list! That way the more help > you give > others by posting , the more visibility your brick wall receives and > thence > the more chances you have of getting help in return :-) > G: It will also benefit the new search engines that are coming on stream > here > at Rootsweb. That search engine will then find your messages that > relate > to that specific ancestor you are researching. > > You are now using the message boards as an online archiving and retrieval > system. Most people will not go to the threaded archives etc but a simple > click on the url below an interesting subject line will likely get their > attention. > It has the added benefits of: > A: always visible forever. > B: easier to find than the archives list. > C: keeps the threads across many months and years > D: there will be an auto reply to you whenever a reply is given. > E: New search engine will find related messages. > > Let's use the combined benefits of the message boards and > the mailing lists to our mutual advantage. Please feel free to pass > this email to anyone of interest. > > Best Regards > John A Hansen > List Admin > jahansen@qwest.net > > BTW: Example below for one of my brick walls :-) > > Isaac Brownell > Mass > 1772 ( My ALDEN Line) > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.brownell&m=324 > > ______________________________ > Stephen Stradler>PA>1700's (My STATELER Line) > > ______________________________ > Julie, > > Hannah Elizabeth STATLER and Daniel R. LIMBAUGH were from Bollinger > County/Cape Girardeau area. Do you have info on her? > Thanks, > Catherine > >

Stephen Stradler>PA>1700's (My STATELER Line)

Julie, Hannah Elizabeth STATLER and Daniel R. LIMBAUGH were from Bollinger County/Cape Girardeau area. Do you have info on her? Thanks, Catherine

Dear All: Some of you have posted really nice and comprehensive descriptions of your brick walls on the roll call. There is also an very interesting method to utilize the combined benefits of the message boards and the mailing lists that could be of use to everyone. We can use of the archiving capability of the message board and the address of the URL of that message to keep your information available and easy to reach for viewers. The process is: A: Most genealogy software programs will allow you to segment a specific portion of the family tree. So create the descendants tree or ancestry tree in your program or from your ancestry files and then copy that to the clipboard. B: Open the message board at www.rootsweb.com for the specific surname and or Clan. C: Create a new post and copy the material of the ancestor from above into that post. D: Go to Tools or other options on your email program and open the sig lines feature option E: Create the Sig Line block in your email program Insert the name of the brick wall or person at the top of the chart along with the highlights of location and time etc. This is effectively your subject lines so make it eye catching and complete. Then copy the message URL into the next line just below the subject line. E: You now have a 2 line sig line! It lets a viewer go to the same reference point by merely clicking on the URL. If they reply, then you will get that reply automatically. It also gathers all the information on that ancestor in one location so you have a stream of replies for all to see and comment on. That URL becomes a universal locator for you to add to all your outgoing messages and other messages. Especially if you have a lot of documentation etc it will help to confirm to other viewers that this is the right tree. F: Then when you post to the SURNAME-L@rootsweb.com "insert" and select the appropriate sig line in that message instead of merely the long line of surnames that nobody really looks at. It will then be a sig line of interest to people in that mailing list with a really easy way to check to see if it fits their family lines. This allows you to post your SPECIFIC brick wall on every post to that specific surname list! That way the more help you give others by posting , the more visibility your brick wall receives and thence the more chances you have of getting help in return :-) G: It will also benefit the new search engines that are coming on stream here at Rootsweb. That search engine will then find your messages that relate to that specific ancestor you are researching. You are now using the message boards as an online archiving and retrieval system. Most people will not go to the threaded archives etc but a simple click on the url below an interesting subject line will likely get their attention. It has the added benefits of: A: always visible forever. B: easier to find than the archives list. C: keeps the threads across many months and years D: there will be an auto reply to you whenever a reply is given. E: New search engine will find related messages. Let's use the combined benefits of the message boards and the mailing lists to our mutual advantage. Please feel free to pass this email to anyone of interest. Best Regards John A Hansen List Admin jahansen@qwest.net BTW: Example below for one of my brick walls :-) Isaac Brownell > Mass > 1772 ( My ALDEN Line) http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.brownell&m=324

In a message dated 04/28/2002 10:53:57 AM Central Daylight Time, CLADYC@webtv.net writes: > Catherine, are they from Cape Girardeau or Marquand, Missouri? Julie