Is this the same Sandra that published the Statler newsletters? If so I am looking for several Statlers.In fact they are children of Samuel who died 1804. The names are Jacob and Henry. Jacob was listed as orphan in will and Henry was born 1802 and died after 1850. He married Kesiah Ferrell. Thanks for any help. Also I am trying to figure out who the father of Samuel(died 1804) was, I believe he is a brother to Casper and Rudy and therefore they have the same father. No proof as of yet.Carrol Ann

My lines is Samuel Statler 1804 and the Emanuel you thought was his son is not his.By doing the math we can see the Emanuel you mention was born after 1804 when my Samuel did indeed die.I think my Emanuel may be the one married to Lydia Taylor and lived Bedford Cty. He died 1879 and was born 1798. Does anyone have any idea what happened to Jacob Statler a son of Samuel and Mary or Henry married to Kesiah Ferrell. He was born 1802 and died after 1850. They lived Somerset Cty. at one time. Thanks

I will need to look in my material, I do believe my ancestor George Stettler served in the same Berks Co Militia........in Rev war...........Caspar may have been the militia leader? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra Jones Hall To: STATLER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [STATLER] Emmanuel Statler-Casper-Christopher I found Salisbury, Somerset County, PA on Map Quest south to the city of Somerset almost at the border with Maryland. Casper's family lived in the North East of Somerset County. In what is now Shade Township. They did spread out from there. There are several Emanuel Statlers or Stotlers early. Emanuel son of Casper. Shade Twp 1850 and 1860 census Emanuel son of Jacob and Nancy Sites Allegheny County 1850 Emanuel possibly brother of Casper and/or Jacob died about 1796 Franklin County PA. Found him: 1870 Census, Salisbury Statler, Emanuel 21 Shoemaker ", Susan 24 1880 Census, Salisbury Statler, Emanuel 31 Susan 35 Morris 9 Eugene 7 Clarence 2/12 I believe this Emanuel is not a decendent of Casper but of Samuel died Franklin County 1804. As for which families (Stephen's to Casper's etc.) connect, twenty years of research has not given me any connections, that is the main reason I am doing this DNA project. Sandy ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I found Salisbury, Somerset County, PA on Map Quest south to the city of Somerset almost at the border with Maryland. Casper's family lived in the North East of Somerset County. In what is now Shade Township. They did spread out from there. There are several Emanuel Statlers or Stotlers early. Emanuel son of Casper. Shade Twp 1850 and 1860 census Emanuel son of Jacob and Nancy Sites Allegheny County 1850 Emanuel possibly brother of Casper and/or Jacob died about 1796 Franklin County PA. Found him: 1870 Census, Salisbury Statler, Emanuel 21 Shoemaker ", Susan 24 1880 Census, Salisbury Statler, Emanuel 31 Susan 35 Morris 9 Eugene 7 Clarence 2/12 I believe this Emanuel is not a decendent of Casper but of Samuel died Franklin County 1804. As for which families (Stephen's to Casper's etc.) connect, twenty years of research has not given me any connections, that is the main reason I am doing this DNA project. Sandy

Does anyone know SJ Fike Statler.....her email addy is not working...I've been wondering if her Emmanuel is Casper's son? Nena EMMANUEL STATLER SJ Fike Statler bigsal10@hotmail.com > July 16 2001 "My husband is a Statler whose ggrfather was Emmanuel Statler fr Salisbury PA. Not sure abt connection to Stephen, although prob same line."Sally Statler CASPER STATLER Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1 1. Casper STATLER was born 18 AUG 1743 in Palatinate Germany, and died 12 APR 1798 in PA. He was the son of 2. Christopher STATLER and 3. Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME. He married Rebecca Regina WALTER 1762 in Carlisle Co. PA, daughter of Casper Joseph WALTER and Anna Barbara BAR. She was born 1746, and died 20 FEB 1826. Children of Casper STATLER and Rebecca Regina WALTER are: i. Casper STATLER was born 19 APR 1767, and died 25 APR 1833. He married Anna Mary LAMBERT 12 JUN 1792, daughter of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP. She died 1851. ii. Mary B. STATLER was born 14 FEB 1768 in Stonycreek Twp., Somerset Co., PA, and died 14 FEB 1852 in Lambertsville, Stonycreek Twp., Somerset Co., PA. She married Johannes M. LAMBERT , Sr. 1783 in Bedford Co., PA, son of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP. He was born 12 OCT 1761 in Manchester, Dover Twp., York Co, PA, and died 24 MAY 1844 in Lambertsville, Stoney Creek Twp., Somerset Co., PA. iii. Elizabeth STATLER was born 1770, and died 25 JAN 1820. She married George LAMBERT, son of Jacob LAMBERT and Mary UPP. iv. John STATLER was born 1773, and died 20 JUN 1844. He married Catherine LAMBERT. v. Samuel STATLER was born 15 JAN 1776, and died 1850. He married Magdalena MOSTELLER. She was born 1774, and died 1848. **vi. Emanuel STATLER was born 1776, and died 1850. He married Catherine MOSTELLER. She was born 1781, and died 1836. vii. Eleanor STATLER was born 1788, and died 26 MAR 1859. She married Peter SCHELL, son of John SCHELL and Elizabeth HILLEGAS. He was born 1 AUG 1784, and died 28 OCT 1862. Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2 2. Christopher STATLER was born 1725 in Germany, and died in USA. 3. Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME was born in Germany. Children of Catherine Margaret MAIDENNAME and Christopher STATLER are: i. Rudolph STATLER. ii. Henry Jacob STATLER died 1790. He married Nancy SITES, daughter of Henry SITES. 1. iii. Casper STATLER was born 18 AUG 1743 in Palatinate Germany, and died 12 APR 1798 in PA. He married Rebecca Regina WALTER 1762 in Carlisle Co. PA, daughter of Casper Joseph WALTER and Anna Barbara BAR. She was born 1746, and died 20 FEB 1826 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Thank you David. Anyone have any idea if the name itself, Casper, has a certain meaning? Samuel seemed to be a solid Statler name I notice. Wonder if there is some relation between Christopher, Abraham and Stephen..just speculating, Nena ABRAHAM STATLER Fr "Charles Statler" <c.g.stat@worldnet.att.net> 14 Sep 2001 -"Statler cemetery is listed at the Statler web site, as well as many of the names under family histories. I am a descendent of Abraham Statler who was in Roanoke area/Loudoun co VA. There is info on Stephen Statler (Stradler) on Statler web PG states Stephen had children John, Stephen, Michael, George, Catherine, Jacob and Joseph. My Abraham b mid 1700's d 1813 record states Stephen (old) lived Hampshire Co VA. Co now part of WV. Hampshire Co also part of Loudoun Co VA. I think Stephen/Abraham could be bro's and sons of John Statler. Usually first b son named for husband’s father. My Abraham's children's names: John, Jacob, Abraham, Elizabeth, and Catherine. Note the similarity bet names. Plane in PA crashed less than 15mi fr Statler Cem at Reels Corner. This cem is final resting-place of Casper Statler and family members. There approx 50-70 people buried in a quiet spot off an unmarked road." Charles S Fr: Statler descendant MStateler 4-2002:Stephen Stradler immigrated from Baviaria Via Amsterdam and the Ship Speedwell that docked in Philidelphia on 25 Sept 1749. He went to Union Town Westmoreland Co PA. He listed his occupation as German Military. **Stephen Stradler Stateler** B c1710 Germany D bef 1783 Fayette Co PA Occ German Military-lst wife is UNK. M2)Susanna-Geo's mother. Stephen known to be fr Monongalia Co WV. His will names son Geo to receive 200ac known as Stradlers fort at mouth of Dunkard Creek. Stephen was a resident of Springhill Twp Westmoreland EMMANUEL STATLER SJ Fike Statler bigsal10@hotmail.com > July 16 2001 "My husband is a Statler whose ggrfather was Emmanuel Statler fr Salisbury PA. Not sure abt connection to Stephen, although prob same line."Sally Statler STATLER COAT OF ARMS Origin of the name Statler is German and the Coat of Arms Divided into four parts of black and blue, a lion in the first and fourth part with a curved bar in the second and third. We have written an 1800-word history on Statler. A small excerpt from this Statler family history: Spelling variations include: Staedler, Stadler, Staedler, Stadtler, Stadeler, Staedele (Wuerttemberg) and many more. First found in Austria, where the name emerged in mediaeval times as one of the notable families of the region. Some of the first settlers of this name or some of its variants were: Johann Adam Stadtler, who came to Philadelphia in 1730. He was followed by Maria abd Catrina Stadleren in 1731, Johann Stadler in 1730, and Christian Stadler in 1738. David Stadelmayer came in 1750, Johann Wilhelm Stadellmann in 1740, and Frantz Stadel in 1732. Numerous bearers of the variation Stadelmann came to Brazil in 1876, including Anna, Catherina, Conrad, Heinrich, Johann, and Peter. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Nena and All... You can view all the info at the Statler database online. Here's Casper's entry directly... http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=statler&id=I06626 (Note: the above link may wrap, so be sure to paste the entire link in your browser if it does...) Regards, David Statler Nena Smothers wrote: > Could someone please post Casper Statler's line....would appreciate it, > thanks, Nena > > > Charles Campbell wrote at about 07:32 PM > 1/4/2003 -0700: > I am a descendant of Casper Statler m. Rebecca Walter through their > daughter Mary Statler m. John Lambert. Their son, Samuel Lambert > (1790-1869) m. Sarah Good(1796-1861). Does anyone have the names of > Sarah Good's parents or siblings? > >> > >Elaine - treelinker@rushmore.com. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Could someone please post Casper Statler's line....would appreciate it, thanks, Nena Charles Campbell wrote at about 07:32 PM 1/4/2003 -0700: I am a descendant of Casper Statler m. Rebecca Walter through their daughter Mary Statler m. John Lambert. Their son, Samuel Lambert (1790-1869) m. Sarah Good(1796-1861). Does anyone have the names of Sarah Good's parents or siblings? > > >Elaine - treelinker@rushmore.com. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Wyn, Thank you for the alternate spellings of Good. The Good lineage is my "brick wall" lineage. I've also tried Gut and Gutt to no avail. I just have an about date for marriage of Sarah Good and Samuel Lambert of 1813. If I could find their marriage record, perhaps her parents names would be on it. So far, I've had no luck searching in either Bedford or Somerset counties. Elaine Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wyn Achenbaum" <wynach@optonline.net> To: <STATLER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [STATLER] Lambert, Good, Somerset Co., PA > No, but I show an alternate spelling for her surname of Dood/ Goot. I show > one son, John M. Lambert, and a single line of descent leading to Edna > Eldora Lambert (1897-1969). > > Wyn Achenbaum, replying to what Charles Campbell wrote at about 07:32 PM > 1/4/2003 -0700: > >I am a descendant of Casper Statler m. Rebecca Walter through their > >daughter Mary Statler m. John Lambert. Their son, Samuel Lambert > >(1790-1869) m. Sarah Good(1796-1861). Does anyone have the names of Sarah > >Good's parents or siblings? > >Elaine - treelinker@rushmore.com. > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

From: <r.toothman@worldnet.att.net> Re: Statler family 24 Oct 2002 The discrepant stories about the Statlers were what inspired me to straighten them out. Stephen, born c1720?, probably somewhere in Germany/, + in Fayette Co, PA, 1783/84; the only record, late, of his wife, calls her Susanna but it's not known if he had one wife or two. There is a gap in his children's ages that always suggested to me he might have been married twice. Father of: 1. Catharine, born c1740, married George HILEY 2. Jacob, born c1742/45?, + 1778 (killed by Indians); married __, whose name is not given in any source known to me. 3. John, c1742/45-bef 1820?; md Eve BRYERLY, widow of THORN, and lived near Blacksville; moved, with all of his family, Licking Co OH, very early 1800s 4. Joseph, born c1750?, reportedly killed by Indians but no contemporary record of it; if so, unmarried and no known issue 4. Michael, c1760?-1842?; it's not clear from the records how many Michael's there are, though it looks to me as if there may be two of them -- the details are hazy to me. Married __ (I don't remember the given name but they were the parents of Hannah, who md James CUNNINGHAM; maybe also the Michael who md Polly BOLD c1805 but I'm not sure of that; moved to OH 5. George, 1760s-1836 md Elisabeth SMEATHERS in KY, where he moved abt 1797 (George inherited the land of Stephen, which included Statlers Fort; this is the same tract later owned by SHRIVER, which CORE describes as one of the best on Dunkard Creek. Jacob's tract lay just below this one. 6. Stephen, 1770-1856, moved to KY, married Rhoda PIGMAN, and was JP and sheriff in Ohio Co, KY Jacob, probably the oldest son of Stephen, was killed by Indians. He is not named in the will of Stephen Statler but it is stated in the Statler vs Core/Hiley lawsuit in Monongalia that Stephen (not named) was the grandfather of John STATLER son of Jacob (George STATLER, the son of Stephen, is named and is called "Uncle" to John) and I see no reason to doubt it. Jacob's wife died, per the suit, while their oldest son John was still a minor, and her name is not given anywhere. The lawsuit had to do with the land to which John was entitled as the heir at law of his father. He recites that his father was killed by Indians "many years ago" and that George HILEY, who he stops just short of saying was his uncle though it is strongly implied that HILEY was a family connection, had a survey made for John as heir of Jacob but appropriated part of the land to his own use and he or his heir sold it to one of the CORE men. George SNYDER was finally bonded as guardian to John STATLER and obtained another survey, which included all of the land to which John was entitled, and the purpose of the suit was to negate HILEY's sale to CORE of a part of it. Eventually STATLER and CORE agreed the case out of court and STATLER took the land, 400 acres in all. This is the same John whose dates are usually given as 1733-1826 (or so), but the dates are wrong. He says that he was a minor at the time of his father's death in 1778 and for many years afterward, and there is no reason to doubt this. He would have been laughed out of court if he came in, aged almost 70, and presented the case that he did. He was actually born c1772, it would appear, and was age 21 by 1794 -- but probably not much over 21 at that time. I've seen a photograph of his tombstone, which appears to show he + 1826, age 93 years but the first digit of the age is badly damaged, as if it has been chipped with a sharp object, and I believe it should read _53_years. If I remember correctly, the stone shows him +1826 but his estate went into probate in 1825, so the date of death is probably a year off. MITTONG says he md Eve ROBERTS, but that is also wrong. MITTONG badly confused the STATLER family and he has been followed closely by CORE and others -- another purpose for my article! Evidently Mr WILSON saw deeds from John and Eve (BRYERLY) STATLER in Monongalia and presumed that all references to a John were to the same person, which they are not. The John who md Eve was the older man, and made a mark like a $ tipped over on its side. John STATLER the son of Jacob wrote his name and had a very distinctive handwriting, as well as spelling style, that are easy to spot if you've seen them once. The older John had land at Pentress and Blacksville, adjoining George HILEY's home place. At least some of this came eventually to Adam BROWN. A manuscript I received after finishing that draft established beyond question that Joseph STATLER, c1773/4?-1870s, of Brown Co, OH, was a younger brother of John STATLER (of Jacob). This Joseph married Margaret MILLER and left WV in the early 1800s. The MS indicates that there were sisters but does not ID them, and they didn't figure in any of the litigation over the land because John, as the oldest son, was the heir at law to his father's real estate. (The MS says that Joseph was the oldest son, but this is contradicted by the facts. John, son of Jacob, was the heir at law and was the oldest son. Since only the eldest son inherited land under the circumstances, there is no direct record of the rest of the family.) John md, abt 1805 or 1806, to Elisabeth, probably MYERS though his family record does not say so. (The family record, in his own handwriting, is in the Monongalia court records at Morgantown, pinned to the guardianships for his children.) Elisabeth evidently had a son Peter MYERS prior to her marriage. The land John inherited from Jacob was sold by his children after his death. His sons were Jacob (m Elis WALKER) and John; all the other children were daughters, and one or two of them died unmarried but most survived. Except for John (son of Jacob), nearly all the rest of the family left WV pretty early. The only one who is known to me to have stayed here was Christina STATLER, the daughter of John and Eve (BRYERLY), who married Adam BROWN and lived at Pentress. Her parentage has been much disputed in the past but I was lucky enough to find the documents which prove that she was the daughter of John (who signs by the tipped-over $ mark). John gave evidence, shortly before returning to OH, in a lawsuit involving Christina's son John BROWN and stated his relationship there, as well as signing with his usual mark. Again, I would recommend to y STATLER article, which does not include the info about Joseph, brother of John (of Jacob), noted above, because this came to me after the last completed draft was finished. It doesn't go beyond the children of John (c1772-1825/6), and there is still some discrepancy as to the # of Michael's around (I think there are 2: an older one who was son of Stephen and a younger who may well have been a son of Jacob, but I could be wrong on this and the local records just don't give the answer). Otherwise, there is nothing in it that I know to be wrong, though it needs fine-tuning and the data on Joseph STATLER of OH needs to be worked into the story. (But the data on Joseph is also extremely incorrect on some points, and some of it is outright nonsense -- particularly the story of Joseph, his father Jacob, and their encounters with Indians, nearly all of which is fictional.) The previous sources on this family were some fairly brief mentions in WILEY, which are partly incorrect; the page or two in WILSON's book on the MITTONG family, which is rather garbled; some notes not directly relevant to STATLER but involving them in Glenn LOUGH's book; and CORE, who uses all of the preceding. I'm not even related to this family! Twenty years ago Susie JONES mentioned them to me as a family who were a major mess to untangle, and eventually I set about to see what could actually be done with them, just as a project. I had had some correspondence from the BROWN researchers, for whom I found the BROWN-STATLER connection above, and one of them tipped me to the torn-out Bible record of John STATLER's children. And then a book I randomly picked up at WVU Library had the clues I needed to find the "other" children of Stephen Sr, who went to KY. Some work in the county records cleared up much of the rest. After abt 1805, the STATLER family is easy, since there is only one, that of John (son of Jacob), and from his 2 sons come all the ones now here of the name,Rick <<<<<DOES THIS HELP ANYONE.....fr Daniel Statler, Florida >dstateler@mindspring.com or dstateler@sprynet.com Fr-Cuzz'n Carl Descendants of Stephen (Stradler) Stateler 1 Stephen (Stradler) Stateler .... 2 Michael Cornelius Stateler, Senior 1757 - 1842 ....... +May Dunlap ....... 3 Joseph Statler ....... 3 George Statler .... *2nd Wife of Michael Cornelius Stateler, Senior: ....... +Mary (Polly) Bold 1785 - 1874 ....... 3 Lavina Stateler 1807 - .......... +William Christian Neilberger ....... 3 Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior 1810 - 1886 .......... +Sidney Neiberger - 1847 .......... 4 Chester N. Stateler 1834 - .......... 4 Mary Ann Stateler 1839 - .......... 4 James William Stateler 1842 - ....... *2nd Wife of Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior: .......... +Lucy McCumber 1829 - .......... 4 Sydney Jane Stateler 1848 - 1870 .......... 4 Robert Dunlap Stateler 1850 - 1852 .......... 4 Martha Stateler 1853 - .......... 4 Harriet Zulma Stateler 1856 - 1920 .......... 4 Albert Douglas Stateler 1858 - 1861 .......... 4 Laura Emma Stateler 1860 - 1936 ......... 4 Michael Cornelius Stateler 1863 - 1949 ............. +Maggie Belle Meek 1866 - 1948 ............. 5 Lennie Mabel Stateler 1889 - ............ 5 Estella Blanche Stateler 1890 - ............. 5 Charles Lloyd Stateler 1891 - ............. 5 Letha Maude Stateler 1894 - Abt 1991 ............ 5 Ethyl Mae Stateler 1896 - ............. 5 Harry Willis Stateler 1899 - ............. 5 Eva Leola Stateler 1902 - ............. 5 Opla Juanita Stateler 1906 - ............. 5 Lolita Cora Stateler 1908 - .......... 4 John Henry Stateler 1867 - ............. + Bertha B. Boyer ............. 5 Howard H. Stateler 1905 - ............. 5 George C. Stateler 1908 - 1945 ............. 5 Grace E. Stateler 1910 - .......... 4 Charles Clinton Stateler 1869 - 1953 ............ + Leonia Ennice Walker - 1911 ............. 5 Nicholas Longsworth Stateler I 1906 - 1987 ............... + Goldie Vera Coleman 1911 - 1988 ............. 5 Harley Elwood Stateler 1908 - 1974 ............. 5 Charles Raymond Stateler I 1911 - 1984 . .............. + Lucy Marcella Miller 1915 - 1977 .......... *2nd Wife of Charles Clinton Stateler: ............. . + Maude Goddard Timmerman Abt 1877 - 1936 ............. 5 Mary Frances Stateler 1918 - .......... 4 Howard Arthur Stateler 1872 - 1948 ...... 3 Stephen H. Stateler 1813 - Aft 1903 ......... + Rachel Mapes Abt 1818 - .......... 4 Josephine Stateler 1838 - 1928 . ........... + James Beale 1824 - 1898 ............. 5 Adelia Beale - Abt 1940 ................ + Williams ............ *2nd Husband of Adelia Beale: ............... + Harry E. Barlow - Abt 1930 ............ *3rd Husband of Adelia Beale: ............... + Unknown 2nd husband of Adelia Beale ............. 5 Carl Beale Abt 1877 - ................ + Molly ........... *2nd Wife of Carl Beale: ........... + Unknown 3rd wife of Carl Beale ........... *3rd Wife of Carl Beale: ................ + Myrtle - Abt 1945 ............. 5 Katherine "Kate" Beale 1862 - 1925 ................ + George D. "Robert" Coombs Abt 1844 - 1888 ............. *2nd Husband of Katherine "Kate" Beale: ................ + William James Pritchard 1858 - 1935 ............. 5 Thomas Knight Beale 1863 - 1917 ................ + Mary Alice Parris 1876 - 1971 ............. 5 Mary Adeline "Addy" Beale 1867 - 1936 ................ + Joseph Frederick Bishop 1862 - 1941 ............. 5 Olive "Ollie" Beale Abt 1874 - 1918 ................ + John Shultz 1862 - Abt 1930 ...........4 Martin J. B. Stateler Abt 1840 - ............. + Louisa Shoenfeld .......... 4 Thomas K. Stateler Abt 1844 - ............. 5 Melville Stateler .......... 4 Erastus Stateler Abt 1846 - ....... 3 Samuel Stateler 1815 - 1831 ...... 3 Elijah Stateler 1817 - 1838 ....... 3 James W. D. Stateler 1818 - 1898 .......... + Pheobe B. Round 1820 - .......... 4 Michael Stateler II 1844 - ............. + Mary A. ??? Abt 1842 - ............. 5 Clara A. Stateler Abt 1864 - ............. 5 John Stateler III Abt 1865 - .......... 4 Mary E. Stateler I 1845 - .......... 4 Sarah Stateler III 1846 - .......... 4 William M. Stateler 1848 - .......... 4 Chester Stateler II 1850 - ......... 4 George Stateler 1852 - .......... 4 John R. Stateler 1854 - 1920 ......... 4 Mary Stateler III Abt 1855 - ......... 4 Frederick Stateler Abt 1862 - ...... 3 Mary Stateler 1821 - 1901 ......... + Thomas Soward ..... 3 Salathiel Bold Stateler 1823 - 1882 ........ + Mary Jane Downey 1827 - 1867 ........ 4 Mary Eliza Stateler 1847 - Abt 1913 ....... 4 Michael Stateler 1849 - Abt 1852 ....... 4 John D. Stateler Abt 1852 - Abt 1873 ....... 4 Sarah Stateler Abt 1854 - Abt 1872 ....... 4 Celia Stateler Abt 1856 - Abt 1857**********8 ....... 4 Catherine Stateler II 1858 - Abt 1914 ....... 4 Henry C. Stateler 1860 - 1916 .......... + Carrie Elston ............ 5 Arthur M. Stateler 1886 - ....... 4 George W. Stateler 1862 - 1870 ....... 4 Salathiel Andrew Stateler 1864 - 1937 .......... + Cora Mary Pewthers 1871 - 1956 .. ........ 5 Ernest Salathiel Stateler 1890 - 1953 ............... + Clara May Guppy 1892 - 1977 ............ 5 John Earl Stateler 1891 - 1971 ............... + Nell ??? - 1972 ............ 5 Charles Downey Stateler 1893 - 1979 .... .......... + Lora Olatha Murfin 1892 - 1983 ........... 5 Walter Leo Stateler 1895 - 1964 .............. + Lola Pearl Blalock 1896 - 1951 ........... 5 Erma Flavel Stateler 1897 - 1987 ........... 5 Lloyd Garrison Stateler 1905 - 1981 .............. + Ermin Murphy 1907 - 1938 ..... 4 Charles Stateler Abt 1866 - Abt 1866 ... *2nd Wife of Salathiel Bold Stateler: ......... + Marinza Elston 1842 - ...... 4 Dora E. Stateler 1876 - ...... 4 Cra Stateler 1878 - ...... 4 Allise Stateler 1880 - .. 3 Chester Stateler I 1828 - 1833 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

this is what I have on Stephen and Rhoda Pigman 7-Stephen Stateler jr b Aug 1770 Pa d Jun 9 1856 Spencer Co In m Rhoda P Pigman June 18 1797 Ohio Co Ky b Apr 26 1778 Montgomery Co Md d 1852. STEPHEN STATLER, brother to Geo, Sheriff Ohio Co Ky. Rhoda's parents Ignatius Pigman/Susannah Lamar, Ignatius d in La of influenza. Susannah b c1754 d Sept 1830 Ohio Co Ky [dau of John Lamar/Sarah Marshall]. They had Eliz, Mattie, Sallie, Susan, Ignatius and the Rev Learner Blackman Children of Stephen and Rhoda: -Statler, Eliz m Nicholas C Taylor Mar 13 1817 Ohio Co Ky -Statler, Mattie m William Duke 1818 Ohio Co KY -Statler, Sally m Richard Duke Feb 24 1823 Ohio Co KY -Statler, Ignatius Pigman m Siney Stevens Dec 19 1825 Ohio Co Ky -Statler, Susanna Lamar m Henry Stevens Nov 21 1831 Ohio Co Ky** -Stateler, Learner Blackman b 7 July 1811-1 May 1896 m Ky Melinda Purdom Jan 26 1836. Pioneer Methodist minister Ks and Rocky Mts d Corvallis, Montana. (39) No issue. REV. Learner Stateler was son of Stephen Stateler Jr and Rhoda Pigman. Stephen being son of Stephen Stateler [Stradler] sr b 1720 prob WV. From: Sandra Jones Hall <shall@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 07:57:18 -0800 I made an error on the birth date of Stephen Stateler, brother of George. 1850 census District 1 Ohio County, Kentucky page 33 dwelling and household 464: Stephen Stateler age 80 born Penn. Rhoda Stateler age 72 born Maryland Elosa Taylor age 52 born Kentucky Susan Taylor age 21 born Kentucky Mary Pigman age 66 born Maryland Dwelling and household 465: Ignacius Stateler age 46 Seny Stateler age 45......... [Siney ?] Stephens Ann Stateler age 16 Charlotte Stateler age 14 Marion Stateler age 11 male Sarah Stateler age 8 Virgil Stateler age 3 Lucy Stateler age 1 all born in Kentucky So Stephen was born about 1770. This means he was only about 14 when his father's Stephen will was probated. I looked at the Orphan Court records for Fayette County PA, to see if a guardian had been appointed but did not find anything. The point of my earlier post on this information is that Rick Toothman did an excellent job of digging up facts on this family and then not such a good job on analysis. Rich Toothman's articles are on the Statler web page under Family Documents: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

The Groups I used in the newletters are well defined in the first issue, March 1986 even maps. http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/ Under Family Documents Group 10 is from Monongalia County, (West) Virginia. I made an error on the birth date of Stephen Stateler, brother of George. In the 1850 census District 1 Ohio County, Kentucky page 33 dwelling and household 464: Stephen Stateler age 80 born Penn. Rhoda Stateler age 72 born Maryland Elosa Taylor age 52 born Kentucky Susan Taylor age 21 born Kentucky Mary Pigman age 66 born Maryland And in dwelling and household 465: Ignacius Stateler age 46 Seny Stateler age 45 Ann Stateler age 16 charlotte Stateler age 14 Marion Stateler age 11 male Sarah Stateler age 8 Virgil Stateler age 3 Lucy Stateler age 1 all born in Kentucky So Stephen was born about 1770. This means he was only about 14 when his father's Stephen will was probated. I looked at the Orphan Court records for Fayette County PA, to see if a guardian had been appointed but did not find anything. The point of my earlier post on this information is that Rick Toothman did an excellent job of digging up facts on this family and then not such a good job on analysis. Rich Toothman's articles are on the Statler web page under Family Documents: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/

Carol Ann: No, it is not familiar but those names have been carried down in our family. My GGGG Grandfather, Stephen Stradler Stateler died in PA in 1784 . Wonder if they could have been brothers. Marva

Could be, My Statlers lived in Richland Cty., Ohio and came from Franklin Cty. Pa. Samuel was their father and he married a Mary. He died in 1804. Sound familiar?Carrol Ann

I was interested in your reference to a group 10 in the Stateler line. Mine does not match yours. I hope this is not to confusing, I have tried to list our family in a readable format. Stephen "Stradler" Stateler (my GGGG Grandfather) b abt 1710 Germany Wife unknown Children: John b 5/4/1732 Germany Catherine b abt 1740 Germany Jacob b abt 1748 Germany Joseph b abt 1750 Michael Cornelius b 1762 PA George (my GGG Grandfather) b 1766 PA Stephen B. b 1770 PA George married Elizabeth Smithers Children: Joseph Susanna b abt 1810 KY Jacob (my GG Grandfather) b 1811 Ohio County KY Tulauah Elizabeth b abt 1814 KY William b 1820 Spencer County IN Mary Jane b 1823 Spencer County IN Mary Elizabeth b 1833 Spencer County IN Jacob married Keziah Lawwell (1st marriage) Children: Mary b 1833 IN William b 1835 IN Susan b 1837 Spencer County IN Jane b 1838 Spencer County IN Joseph b 1841 Spencer County IN Luther b 1843 Spencer County IN John b 1844 Spencer County IN Jacob married Sarah Ann Harris (2nd marriage) Children: Samuel Tilden (my G Grandfather) b 1877 Spencer County IN Jacob Taylor b 1880 Spencer County IN Ettie Jane b 1883 Spencer County IN Samuel Tilden married Minnie M. Wire Children: Virgil b 1897 Spencer County IN Vernie (my Grandfather) b 1899 Spencer County IN Bertram b 1905 IN Raymond b 1910 Spencer County IN Vernie married Amelia M. Frank Children: Joseph Samuel (my Father) b 1919 Spencer County IN Josephine b 1921 Spencer County IN Mary Elizabeth b 1924 Spencer County IN Robert Jake b 1929 Spencer County IN Joseph married Zella Colmon Children: Marva Jo (me) b 1940 Spencer County IN Norman Gene b 1942 Spencer County IN Geri Ann b 1955 Owensboro KY

Carol: I wonder if we are of the same line. I have Grandfathers who carried the Jacob and Samuel names and I know we have relation in Ohio who spell their name Statler that I have lost contact with. We spell ours Stateler. Marva Stateler

Correction. The Statler you mention in Sacramento, California is my family and not the one you mentioned. He is mentioned in his Mother's will as having lived and died in the West. He left here with a group of men from our county to go seek their riches. He is the exact age mentioned in census you mentioned. We have never found where or when he died but I assume either a mining accident or from maybe a murder etc. I live in Ohio and we have quite a family here that came from Franklin Cty., Pa. Mainly Samuel Statler. We believe him to be a brother to Casper and Jacob as he is mentioned as witnesses for will.They all lived at the same place at one time. Hope this helps to straighten out the confusion. I am willing to learn of how you came to determine that Lamuel lived in Illinois. Carrol Ann

Since I live in California, I remembered a posting for a California Statler who disappeared and found it on GenForum. "Hunting information on Jeremiah Statler who left Ohio to go to California in the 1846's to hunt for gold.He disappeared shortly after arrival. " I believe this was posted by you. There is a difference between Jeremiah Statler and Lemuel Stateler even if they are the same age. Sandy

LD Stateler is Lemuel Stateler a fairly easy name to track. I first noticed him in the 1850 California Census: Lemuel Stateler: Sacramento page 187 age 24 born Ohio Then in 1860 he is in Marshall Illinois with a wife and 3 children. This ties him the the Marshall County Statelers. Jacob's age in the 1880 census is ten years off. In 1840 he is in Marshall County, Lyon Prect. age 40 to 50 In 1850 he is in Marshall County age 54 born Ohio. So in 1880 he should be about 83-84. There appear to be three brothers in Marshall County IL David bought 3 parcels of federal land starting in 1834. According to the 1850-1880 census he was born about 1806/7 in Ohio In 1880 he had a brother Martin living with him age 83 I don't find Martin with any children. So David, Martin and probably Jacob are brothers born 1796 to 1807 I believe the most likely father for them is John Jr who living in Licking County Ohio. and John Jr is very likely the son of John also of Licking County Now to this list: "Children of Stephen Statler and an unk wife [or wives], order of birth undetermined were: 1.John Statler, m. Eve [Bryerly] Thorn***this Jacob's father..?? 2. Stephen Stateler, m. Rhoda Pigman 3. Michael Stateler, m. Sarah --. 4. George Statler m Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers 5. Catherine Statler, m. -- Hiley. 6. Jacob Statler, m.--------.*********" It comes from the research of Rick Toothman. I am speaking a little soon, but I am pretty sure that: "1.John Statler, m. Eve [Bryerly] Thorn" is about the same age as Stephen who died in 1783 So is "6. Jacob Statler, m.--------.*********" this is the man who was killed by indians in 1778. Look at the period the children were born Michael was born about 1760 George was born about 1766 Stephen was born about 1760 (he was in the 1850 census) "1."John married a women who was widowed about 1765. So I assume his children were born before 1785 I believe his son probable John Jr. was born about 1774 And another probable Jacob was born about 1773 see the Statler/Stetler/Stotler newsletter 1986 #3 page 8. "6." Jacob has probable sons Joseph born 1770 and John born 1771 to 1774 These two were young orphans in 1783 when Stephen died. It makes no sense to me that if they were his grandsons they wouldn't be mentioned in the will. At this time I would construct what I call Group 10 this way Common father perhaps named Stephen had: Stephen born before 1740 died 1783 John born 1730 to 1740 Jacob born 1740-1750 died 1778 I realize I haven't documented this information and I will do so later. If you haven't read the "Statler/Stetler/Stotler Newsletters" they are online at the Statler Webpage under Family Documents. There is quite a bit on Group 10 in various issues. http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/

DOES THIS HELP ANYONE..... dstateler@mindspring.com dstateler@sprynet.com Cuzz'n Carl Descendants of Stephen (Stradler) Stateler 1 Stephen (Stradler) Stateler .... 2 Michael Cornelius Stateler, Senior 1757 - 1842 ....... +May Dunlap ....... 3 Joseph Statler ....... 3 George Statler .... *2nd Wife of Michael Cornelius Stateler, Senior: ....... +Mary (Polly) Bold 1785 - 1874 ....... 3 Lavina Stateler 1807 - .......... +William Christian Neilberger ....... 3 Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior 1810 - 1886 .......... +Sidney Neiberger - 1847 .......... 4 Chester N. Stateler 1834 - .......... 4 Mary Ann Stateler 1839 - .......... 4 James William Stateler 1842 - ....... *2nd Wife of Michael Cornelius Stateler, Junior: .......... +Lucy McCumber 1829 - .......... 4 Sydney Jane Stateler 1848 - 1870 .......... 4 Robert Dunlap Stateler 1850 - 1852 .......... 4 Martha Stateler 1853 - .......... 4 Harriet Zulma Stateler 1856 - 1920 .......... 4 Albert Douglas Stateler 1858 - 1861 .......... 4 Laura Emma Stateler 1860 - 1936 ......... 4 Michael Cornelius Stateler 1863 - 1949 ............. +Maggie Belle Meek 1866 - 1948 ............. 5 Lennie Mabel Stateler 1889 - ............ 5 Estella Blanche Stateler 1890 - ............. 5 Charles Lloyd Stateler 1891 - ............. 5 Letha Maude Stateler 1894 - Abt 1991 ............ 5 Ethyl Mae Stateler 1896 - ............. 5 Harry Willis Stateler 1899 - ............. 5 Eva Leola Stateler 1902 - ............. 5 Opla Juanita Stateler 1906 - ............. 5 Lolita Cora Stateler 1908 - .......... 4 John Henry Stateler 1867 - ............. +Bertha B. Boyer ............. 5 Howard H. Stateler 1905 - ............. 5 George C. Stateler 1908 - 1945 ............. 5 Grace E. Stateler 1910 - .......... 4 Charles Clinton Stateler 1869 - 1953 ............ +Leonia Ennice Walker - 1911 ............. 5 Nicholas Longsworth Stateler I 1906 - 1987 ............... +Goldie Vera Coleman 1911 - 1988 ............. 5 Harley Elwood Stateler 1908 - 1974 ............. 5 Charles Raymond Stateler I 1911 - 1984 . .............. +Lucy Marcella Miller 1915 - 1977 .......... *2nd Wife of Charles Clinton Stateler: .............. +Maude Goddard Timmerman Abt 1877 - 1936 ............. 5 Mary Frances Stateler 1918 - .......... 4 Howard Arthur Stateler 1872 - 1948 ...... 3 Stephen H. Stateler 1813 - Aft 1903 ......... +Rachel Mapes Abt 1818 - .......... 4 Josephine Stateler 1838 - 1928 . ........... +James Beale 1824 - 1898 ............. 5 Adelia Beale - Abt 1940 ................ +Williams ............ *2nd Husband of Adelia Beale: ............... +Harry E. Barlow - Abt 1930 ............ *3rd Husband of Adelia Beale: ............... +Unknown 2nd husband of Adelia Beale ............. 5 Carl Beale Abt 1877 - ................ +Molly ........... *2nd Wife of Carl Beale: ........... +Unknown 3rd wife of Carl Beale ........... *3rd Wife of Carl Beale: ................ +Myrtle - Abt 1945 ............. 5 Katherine "Kate" Beale 1862 - 1925 ................ +George D. "Robert" Coombs Abt 1844 - 1888 ............. *2nd Husband of Katherine "Kate" Beale: ................ +William James Pritchard 1858 - 1935 ............. 5 Thomas Knight Beale 1863 - 1917 ................ +Mary Alice Parris 1876 - 1971 ............. 5 Mary Adeline "Addy" Beale 1867 - 1936 ................ +Joseph Frederick Bishop 1862 - 1941 ............. 5 Olive "Ollie" Beale Abt 1874 - 1918 ................ +John Shultz 1862 - Abt 1930 ........... 4 Martin J. B. Stateler Abt 1840 - ............. +Louisa Shoenfeld ........... 4 Thomas K. Stateler Abt 1844 - ............. 5 Melville Stateler ........... 4 Erastus Stateler Abt 1846 - ........ 3 Samuel Stateler 1815 - 1831 ....... 3 Elijah Stateler 1817 - 1838 ........ 3 James W. D. Stateler 1818 - 1898 ........... +Pheobe B. Round 1820 - ........... 4 Michael Stateler II 1844 - ............. +Mary A. ??? Abt 1842 - .............. 5 Clara A. Stateler Abt 1864 - .............. 5 John Stateler III Abt 1865 - ........... 4 Mary E. Stateler I 1845 - ........... 4 Sarah Stateler III 1846 - ........... 4 William M. Stateler 1848 - ........... 4 Chester Stateler II 1850 - .......... 4 George Stateler 1852 - .......... 4 John R. Stateler 1854 - 1920 ......... 4 Mary Stateler III Abt 1855 - ......... 4 Frederick Stateler Abt 1862 - ...... 3 Mary Stateler 1821 - 1901 ......... +Thomas Soward ...... 3 Salathial Bold Stateler 1823 - ..... 3 Salathiel Bold Stateler 1823 - 1882 ........ +Mary Jane Downey 1827 - 1867 ........ 4 Mary Eliza Stateler 1847 - Abt 1913 ....... 4 Michael Stateler 1849 - Abt 1852 ....... 4 John D. Stateler Abt 1852 - Abt 1873 ....... 4 Sarah Stateler Abt 1854 - Abt 1872 ....... 4 Celia Stateler Abt 1856 - Abt 1857**********8 ....... 4 Catherine Stateler II 1858 - Abt 1914 ....... 4 Henry C. Stateler 1860 - 1916 .......... +Carrie Elston ............ 5 Arthur M. Stateler 1886 - ....... 4 George W. Stateler 1862 - 1870 ....... 4 Salathiel Andrew Stateler 1864 - 1937 .......... +Cora Mary Pewthers 1871 - 1956 .. ........ 5 Ernest Salathiel Stateler 1890 - 1953 ............... +Clara May Guppy 1892 - 1977 ............ 5 John Earl Stateler 1891 - 1971 ............... +Nell ??? - 1972 ............ 5 Charles Downey Stateler 1893 - 1979 .... .......... +Lora Olatha Murfin 1892 - 1983 ........... 5 Walter Leo Stateler 1895 - 1964 .............. +Lola Pearl Blalock 1896 - 1951 ........... 5 Erma Flavel Stateler 1897 - 1987 ........... 5 Lloyd Garrison Stateler 1905 - 1981 .............. +Ermin Murphy 1907 - 1938 ..... 4 Charles Stateler Abt 1866 - Abt 1866 ... *2nd Wife of Salathiel Bold Stateler: ......... +Marinza Elston 1842 - ...... 4 Dora E. Stateler 1876 - ...... 4 Cra Stateler 1878 - ...... 4 Allise Stateler 1880 - .. 3 Chester Stateler I 1828 - 1833 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963