Turn your full headers on....looks like spam to me....maybe list admin can figure this out...Nena [I dont even know WHAT website they are even talking abt, does anyone else?] >From: "P. B. Roper" <cntysrsec@knology.net> >Why are we receiving these same emails giving thanks for visiting their >site? Where is the genealogy question/content?>Pam in FL _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Why are we receiving these same emails giving thanks for visiting their site? Where is the genealogy question/content? Pam in FL

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Anyone know where these folks fit? I have an idea....need some input, thanks, Nena Indiana Goodmans Contributor: James Lynch woobie@peoplepc.com http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg/indiana.htm? Spencer County, Indiana Delayed Birth Records 11- Cleveland H. STATELER b: 8 May 1897 in Spencer Co. IN. Child # 1. Residence: Hatfield, IN father, George STATELER, born in IN mother, Christina GOODMAN, born in IN record # 0086 _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio

Results have just been recieved for a descendant of Joseph Stotler/Stotlar of Brown County, Ohio, which prove he was related to Stephen Stradler/Stateler who died in 1783 in Fayette County PA. Members of this family had traditional information that Joseph Stotler was the son of Jacob Stateler/Statler who was killed at Statler's Fort in 1778. I had designated the family as Group 10. My web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/

Hi All! My Internet searching today brought me across some history books that are being listed for bid on eBay that some of you might be interested in. There are two books on Monongalia Co Virginia Genealogy History, one book on Tryon Co. North Carolina, one book on Bedford Co Penn., and one book on Missouri Genealogy History before 1840. Each book has the 'Statler' surname listed in the index (according to the item descriptions). Most of the auctions expire in 2-4 days... To see these books, just go to eBay: http://www.ebay.com and do a search on: Statler genealogy and the list of books should come up. (By the way, I have no affiliation with the seller of these books...) Hope Everyone has a great weekend and Columbus Day! David Statler Statler Family Homepage: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/index.html

Hi Again... Sorry, that link to the obits site should have been: http://www.obitcentral.com not "obitscentral"... Sorry about that! David Statler David Statler wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I came across this site today: > http://www.obitscentral.com > [snip]

Hi Everyone! I came across this site today: http://www.obitscentral.com and searching on 'Statler' found quite a few entries. Most are pretty recent obits for people in the Chambersburg/Greencastle, PA area. Even though these are not directly related to my Statler line, I have added the following obits to the Statler Family website so that others can take advantage of the info: 1) Arnold, Floyd B. - Mercersburg, PA - sister married a Statler 2) Bartles, A. Stanley - Greencastle, PA - daughter married a Statler 3) Biesecker, Lydia B (nee Statler) - Chambersburg, PA - parents were Frisby and Martha Statler 4) Ehrhart, Ronald O. - Greencastle, PA - sister married a Statler 5) Gayman, Jacob M. - Mercersburg, PA - second wife was Ruth Statler 6) Greene, Lois (nee Hoilman) - Bakersville, NC - daughter married a Statler 7) McKenzie, Howard S. - Chambersburg, PA - wife was Carrie M. Statler 8) Rife, Harold E. - Chambersburg, PA - sister married a Statler 9) Seylor, John H. - Greencastle, PA - daughter married a Statler 10) Statler, Lorraine M (nee Shaffler) - Waynesboro, PA - husband not listed in obit 11) Statler, M. Dice - Chambersburg, PA - son of John & Ruth Statler 12) Statler, Mary Jane (nee Fox) - Greencastle, PA - wife of Charles H. Statler 13) Statler, Nell (nee Williams) - Peachtree City, GA - wife of Carl W. Statler Just head on over to the Obituaries page on the Statler Family website to view the full text of these obits. Have a great day! David Statler Statler List Admin. Statler Family Website: http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs/index.html

In the book "Twin Valley" there is a short sketch about Abraham Pontius which reads: "This man is the last to be mentioned among the settlers of 1804. He located and lived in Miami Twp., and was not a very thrifty man. His name is here given mainly because he outlived all his associates. The least industrious, frugal, and useful--apparently-the one who could have been most easily spared-­he long survived after all the rest were sleeping in their graves." Abraham Pontius and his wife Eva Catherine both died in 1862. He was 92, she 84. They are buried in the Stettler Church Cemetery. Curiously, nothing in our Stettler research seems to substantiate the description of Abraham Pontius quoted above. Could the author, Mr. J. P. Hentz, have confused the two sons-in-law? As mentioned previously, there were two church congregations, the Lutherans and the Refomeds, commonly referred to as the Gebhardt Church and the Stettler Church, respectively. The land for the Reformed church was given by the Stettler family. An agreement dated 26 August 1808 and recorded in Montgomery Co. Deed Book B, page 411, reads: "Daniel Stetler, William Stetler, Henry Stetler, John-Barlet bound by written obligation to convey to George Stetler 6 acres of land in Sec. 16 and fractional Sec. 15 to be used for purposes of having thereon a church or meeting house erected to go by the name of and be called "George Stetler's Church" to be used by Presbyterian or Lutheran or congregation who have united." All four men signed their names; their wives signed by mark. The congregation of the Stettler Church was actually founded in 1803, the first Lutheran Church in the State of Ohio, by the Rev. John Jacob LaRose, a Presbyterian minister. In 1976 the congregation merged with the St. John's Lutheran (Gebhart) congregation in Miamisburg. Several members of the pioneer Stettler family are buried in the Stettler Church Cemetery. Some tombstone inscriptions are: George V. Stettler, born Aug. 31, 1739, died Apr. 23, 1815. Eva Catharine, wife of George V. Stettler, born Feb. 16, 1742, died June 9, 1838. (Note: These tombstone inscriptions are the only known record of the initial "V." in George's name. gm) Henry Stettler, died Jan. 26, 179 age 55 yrs 10 mo. 18 da. (Note: Apparently there was difficulty in reading this tombstone when it was copied in 1971. Baptismal records of the Alta­laha Evang. Lutheran Church, Rehersburg, Berks Co, Pa. show 6 that Henrich, son of Georg Stettler, was born Mar. 13, 1769 and baptized on Easter Day. The administrator of Henry's estate was appointed 28 Feb. 1825. Henrys wife Margaret is buried in the old Willshire Cemetery, Van Wert Co, Ohio. She died in Oct. 1845, 65 yrs of age. gm) J. William Stettler, died Feb. 11, 1836, aged 58 yrs 10 mo. 11 da. Mary, wife of J. W. Stettler, died May 18, 1859, aged 82 yrs 8 mo. - da. Daniel Stettler, died May 15, 1858, aged 78 yrs 10 no. 15 ds. Catherine, wife of Daniel Stettler, died Nov. 27, 1863, 78 yrs 1 mo. 16 da. Thomas Stettler, died Sept. 4, 1881,-aged 78 yrs 3 mo. 11 ds. Elizabeth, died Aug. 9, 1877, aged 71 yrs. Abraham Pontius, died Dec. 16, 1862. (Note: no age given.) Eve Catharine, wife of Abraham Pontius, died Nov. 3, 1862, age 84 yrs I mo. 15 ds. During 1830s and 1840s number of families migrated from Montgomery Co onto new lands in Van Wert and Mercer Cos. Among these were Henry Stettler's sons Jacob, Daniel, George and John, and his dau Elizabeth, md John Bolenbaugh. Also making this move were J. Williams dau Margaret, md to Jacob Tickle, and Pontius and Sharrits families. They settled close together along the St. Marys River in Willshire Township of Van Wert Co. and Black Creek Township of Mercer Co. Here they cleared their farms and raised large families. Gene Mozley (Mrs. R. G.)327 Bon Air Drive Sept. 1979 Sidney, OH 45365 Sept. 1997 note from Kirby Stetler: Thanks to Gene Mozley for sharing this story with us. To put her last paragraph is a different kind of summary, heres what George V. Stettlers eight children did: Jacob stayed in the Miamisburg and Germantown area, in Montgomery Co. Oh. His son Michael moved to Indiana and this is the Glaze and Kerns Connection. Gene Cassman in Layfayette Indiana is descended from here. George Jr. stayed in Montgomery Co. Henrich stayed in Montgomery Co but after his death in 1825 his wife Margaret and their sons Daniel, George, Jacob, and John S. as well as a daughter Elizabeth Betsy (m. John Bolenbaugh) moved into the Willshire Van Wert Co. area. If I have this straight, Dicky and Donald Stetler descend from Jacob=s son Willis, and The Frank Stetler family descends from Jacob=s son Thompson. The David, Orlando, and Emmanuel Odus Stetler clan descend from Daniel. Orlando=s brother Edmund had children Elmer and Fannie and they settled in Plymouth Indiana. Daniel remained in Montgomery Co. Ohio. Chadrina married Johannes Barlet and stayed in Montgomery Co. At least one of their sons went to Butler and Warren Counties, Ohio. Eva Catherine Stettler married Abraham Pontius and remained in Montgomery Co. Their daughter Lydia married another George Stettler and moved to Willshire Twp. after 1833. J. Wilhelm Stettler remained in Montgomery Co. but his daughter Ann married Jacob Shupert and took the Ohio River over to Indiana and moved up to Elkhart. This is Allen Schiebers line. Another daughter married Jacob Tickle and moved up into Mercer and Van Wert Counties. Elisabeth married Jacob Shubert and went to Elkhart County, Indiana. A Shuppert descendant lives there. kstet@bright.net Thanks go to Gene Mosely of Dayton Ohio for finding the story in the old book "Twin Valleys" (about the Ohio Miami Valley area). I've put this story onto some websites also. There appear to be two separate lines of Stettlers in PA in the mid 1700s. My branch purchased a farm north of Rehrersburg PA (which was just previously purchased from Richard Penn's "Manor of Andulhea") another "Abraham Stettler family" lived near the Allentown area. Thanks - Kirby Stetler http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/i/r/D-S-Kirby/ HANS PETER1 STETLER b 1680 d 1740. Children of HANS PETER STETLER are: 2. i. HEINRICH2 STETLER, SR., b. 1706, Zurich, Canton, Switerland; d. Sep 16 1763 Frederick Twp, Montgomery Co Pa.. 3. ii. JOHANN ADAM STETLER, b. 1710. VALENTIN1 STETTLER was born Bef. 1764, and died 1815 in Union Co., Pa.. He married ELIZABETH UNK. Notes for VALENTIN STETTLER: Source: Making Vallentin Stettler the father of Nicholas Stetler. Deed Book F, Page 321, Union Co., Pennsylvania. This is a transcription of the release of Michael Gross and Nicholas Stetler as administrators of Vallentin's Estate. "spurs mannmoon" mannmoon@hotmail.com Harry Myers STEVEN STETTLER, a PA state legislator from York Co., PA. Fr David Statler http://www2.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/memberinfo/house_bio.cfm?districtnumber=95 Spelling really varies, if you look at the transcription of the cemetery you will see Statler, Stetler and Stotler.In the first Newletter I published March 1986 page 3, I go into more detail on spelling. Newsletters are on the Statler Family website under Family documents: fr Sandra Hall http://www.jcn1.com/mabccs _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your existing Internet access and enjoy patented spam protection and more. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa

BREEZE0422@aol.com writes: John T. or P. Stetler This was the closest I have found, age wise, in the Miracode which is all I have <G> Eliz Daniel Stetler Age: 41 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0098 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0058 County: Lycoming, Williamsport Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place Wife Mary S 37 Pennsylvania Daughter Maud 19 Pennsylvania Daughter Francis 17 Pennsylvania Son John 15 Pennsylvania Son Thomas 12 Pennsylvania Son Robert 01 Pennsylvania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEORGE V STETTLER born Aug. 31, 1739, died Apr. 23, 1815 JOURNEY FROM PENNSYLVANIA -The earliest known ancestor in our Stettler family is George Stettler who first appears in the 1768 tax list for Tulpehocken Twp., Berks Co., Pa. as a Labourer. George was born 31 August 1739, birthplace unknown. He married Eva Catherine, probably in the early 1760s. She was born 16 February 1742, a daughter of Johannes Moyer (Mayer) of Tulpehocken Twp. On 15 June 1772 George Stettler purchased a plantation called "Huberton", 160 acres 75 perches, in Bethel Twp., Berks Co., Pa., from Frederick Huber. The indenture covering this transaction was not recorded until 10 February 1798. (Berks Co., Pa. Deed Book 16, page 141) George and Eva Catherine had five sons and three daughters, all prob born Berks Co.: George, b ?, d c 1832, m Teany (Christine) Jacob, b ?, d 1849, m (1) Elizabeth (Strauss?), (2) Mary ? Henry, b 13 Mar. 1769, d 26 Jan.'1825, m Anna Margaret Gundrum **Daniel, b 6 July 1773, d 15 May 1853, m Catherine Gehres ** J. William, b 31 Mar. 1777, d 11 Feb. 1836, m (1) Catharine ? (2) Anna Maria ? Eva Catherine, b 28 Sept.1778, d 3 Nov. 1862, m Abraham Pontius Elisabeth, b ?, d ?, m1 Jacob Shupert Chadrina, b ?, d ?, m2 John Barlet During the Revolutionary War George was enrolled during the period 1781-82 as a Private in Capt. John Fulmer's 8th Company, 2nd Battalion, Berks Co. Militia, according to the evidence of the Fine Book of Berks Co., page 27. George Stettler apparently lived on his farm in Bethel Twp., Berks Co. from 1772 until he and his family removed to Montgomery Co., Ohio in 1804. In the year 1803, four men from Tulpehocken Twp., Berks Co. came to Ohio to see the country and, if they liked it, planned to buy some property and move their families onto it. They found some land they liked about 60 miles east of Cincinnati which was owned by a man in Virginia. They met with the owner's agent in Ohio and contracted to purchase 1,000 acres, then started for Virginia to close the deal with the owner. However, by the time they arrived at the man s residence, he had died. Disappointed and exhausted from the trip, they returned to their homes in Berks Co. There they gave such glowing accounts of the State of Ohio that the "western ern fever" became an epidemic in the neighborhood. As a result, 24 families 2 decided to sell out and move to Ohio the following spring. A few in the meantime had moved to Center Co, Pa, but arrangements to join the group were made with them by letter. It was agreed that all would start at such a time as to meet in Pittsburgh on or about the same day. In this group from Berks Co. were our George Stettler, his children and grandchildren. George was nearly 65 years of age at this time. " Histories of Montgomery Co, Ohio tell that George Stettler and his five sons, William, Henry, Daniel, George and Jacob came from Berks Co., Pa. in 1804 and that George entered Sections 15 and 16 of Miami Twp. (at that time part of German Twp.) The term "entered" means that he was the first individual to own and 1 live on it, having purchased it directly from the federal government on18 July 1804. Sec. 15 was a fractional section of about 382 acres; Sec. 16 contained about 663 acres; in total about 1045 acres. Sec. 15 is bordered on the east by the Great Miami River. George settled his children over this land. Six deeds, all dated 11 December 1807, show that he "sold" tracts in Sections 15 and 16 to his children: 166 acres to Henry, 166 acres to Elisabeth (apparently still single at that time), 191 acres to Daniel, 166 acres to William, 191 acres to John Barlet (his daughter Chadrina's husband) and 165 acres to Abraham Pontius (his daughter Eva Catherine's husband). The selling price in each transaction was $10, which of course indicates that it was a gift of land. A few years later George sold two quarter sections in Sec. 5 in German Twp. to his sons George and Jacob for $100 each. George Stettler's will was written in German and dated 13 Nov. 1814. It was filed for probate on I May 1815. He mentions his wife Eva Catharine and each of his children by name. He stipulates that each of the children is to have as his inheritance the land he is living on. With regard to his daughter Chadrina, however, he states that the land he had given John Barlet and his former wife Chadrina is all that Chadrina should receive as her inheritance. 5 Then he goes on to say that she is to get $150 which is for her or for her children but it is not to fall into John Barlet's hands. Within a few years of receiving his 191 acres, John Barlet had sold the land in two transactions. One wonders how George may have felt toward another of his sons-in-law. _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

FYI-fr the PA list BREEZE0422@aol.com writes: John T. or P. Stetler This was the closest I have found, age wise, in the Miracode which is all I have <G> Eliz Daniel Stetler Age: 41 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0098 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0058 County: Lycoming, Williamsport Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place Wife Mary S 37 Pennsylvania Daughter Maud 19 Pennsylvania Daughter Francis 17 Pennsylvania Son John 15 Pennsylvania Son Thomas 12 Pennsylvania Son Robert 01 Pennsylvania _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Hi Georgia, The short answer to your question is that there probably no relationship in the last 250 years. There could possibly be a connection in Europe but no one has traced back that far. See my web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/ I checked the 1880 census for Illinois and there were several George Stadler names. Sandy

Marva, I am not the person who emailed you previously - - but I am interested. I am a Stadler - my grandparents were married in Illinois and lived at one time early 1900's in Ohio - their names were George and Lena. I am wondering how close the Stateler line could be to the Stadler/Stadtler. -----Original Message----- From: MStateler@aol.com [mailto:MStateler@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:20 PM To: STATLER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATLER] help I had to reformat my computer and lost my email I had saved. I was emailed from someone wanting the paperwork on the Stateler line from Ohio. If you see this notice, please contact me. Marva Stateler mstateler@aol.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I had to reformat my computer and lost my email I had saved. I was emailed from someone wanting the paperwork on the Stateler line from Ohio. If you see this notice, please contact me. Marva Stateler mstateler@aol.com

The latest DNA results give valuable information for the members of: Group 2 the Stetler family of Montgomery County PA Group 4 the Stettler family of Lebanon (then Lancaster) County PA and the Statler family of Miami County Ohio Group 8 the Statler of Loudoun and Botetourt Counties VA The results indicate that the three Groups are related. See my website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sandrajoneshall/ Questions are welcome. Sandy

>From: SSteele419@aol.com Fr Michael Schell-I also have the wedding picture of Harvey Ice with his second wife Sarah Harris Stateler-Ice, who was sister of Anna Katherine Ice and Married Harvey after Sarah died. I have scanned the photo and would be happy to email it to interested parties . Sincerely, Michael Schell mjs54@cus.cam.ac.uk >> It says Sarah is the second wife. YES Jacob Statler +2) Sara Anna Harris m 1875 b Jul 14 1852 Oh d Jul 18 1928 NOTE:When Jacob died, his 2nd wife Sara Anna Harris married Harvey Ice. NOTE:Fr Marva-Harvey Ice was m1 Emma 'Kate' Catherine Harris, Sarah's sister They had 2 children: Sarah Keziah Ice b 1878 IN d bef 1848 - had Ola and Wilma Mahalia Gertrude Ice b 1879 m John Martin -desc Michael Schell Was Anna Katherine the first wife? YES Next, a correction: I mis-typed in my post. Harvey?s first wife was Catherine/Kate Harris-Ice. Harvey and Catherine had two daughters, Mahala Gertrude (Gertie) and Hezzika (Kizzy). Soon after giving birth to Kizzy, Catherine died. 1880 United States Census [Harvey & Emma Catherine lst wife] Harvey ICE Self M Male W 30 OH Farm Laborer VA OH Emma C. ICE Wife M Female W 26 OH Keeping House NJ OH Sarah K. ICE Dau S Female W 2 IN At Home OH OH Mahalah G ICE Dau S Female W 1 IN OH OH Source Information:Census Place Ohio, Spencer, Indiana Family History Library Film 1254311 NA Film Number T9-0311 Pg 109C "Harvey ice, son of Mahala and George Ice, was born on Oct. 13, 1848. About 9 O'clock on the morning of March 24, 1926 he died. [George Ice brother to Melvin Ice] Besides his wife he leaves to mourn his loss seven children, three brothers, two sisters, three step-children, and thirty-nine grandchildren. In 1877 he was united in marriage to Kate Harris, who died leaving two small children; Kizzie, who preceded him in death, and Gertie, now Mrs. John Martin, of Bellevue, Ohio. A few years later he was united in marriage to **Sarah Anna Harris Stateler**, widow of Jacob Stateler, son of George Stateler & Elizabeth Cecelia Smeathers. To this union were born six children, Mrs. Ella Walters, Mrs. Nellie Walters, and George, all of Evansville, and Mrs Georgianna Abshier, of Kenney, Ill., and one died in infancy. The funeral was preached at Cross Roads church by Rev. William Medcalf. Interment was at the Hackleman cemetery". [Fr Bellevue, Ohio Newspaper]. Just like to make sure I get the connection straight! Sharon Steele _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

In a message dated 7/24/03 4:24:32 PM, smothersnena@hotmail.com writes: << Fr Michael Schell-I also have the wedding picture of Harvey Ice with his second wife Sarah Harris Stateler-Ice, who was sister of Anna Katherine Ice and Married Harvey after Sarah died. I have scanned the photo and would be happy to email it to interested parties . Sincerely, Michael Schell mjs54@cus.cam.ac.uk >> Thank you for sharing the info on the ICE connection. I have one question on the above--do you know the answer I do I need to contact Michael Schell directly? It says Sarah is the second wife. Was Anna (Anna Katherine Stateler maiden name?) the first wife? If Anna was first wife, does the sentence mean to say, "and married Harvey after Anna died"? Or was Anna the third wife, or have I misread something? Just like to make sure I get the connection straight! Sharon Steele

thought this interesting....as Ice's md into the Statler line http://members.aol.com/jeff560/westvirginia.html 1767 Ice's Ferry, Monongalia County, is settled by Frederick Ice. His son Adam, born the same year, was the first white child born in the Monongahela Valley. Andrew Ice started the first authorized ferry in western Virginia in 1785. >From my NOTES: Posted By: Clyde Evans cevans5420@aol.com Subject: Re: Ice Family Genealogy Forum March 6 1999 Joyce- My records show: Andrew Ice, b. 10-16-1757, d. 3-15-1845, in 1783 m. Mary Bayles b. 11-6-1763. Andrew received official authorization by Act of 1785 to establish a ferry on the Cheat River (under Lake Cheat now near Morgantown). George Washington crossed 1n 1784 on the ferry coming from Beeson Town to Fort Peirpoint. He was checking the possibilities for a canal from the Potomac to the Monongahela and spoke to Andrew about it. Andrew advised against it. Fr Michael Schell-I also have the wedding picture of Harvey Ice with his second wife Sarah Harris Stateler-Ice, who was sister of Anna Katherine Ice and Married Harvey after Sarah died. I have scanned the photo and would be happy to email it to interested parties . Sincerely, Michael Schell mjs54@cus.cam.ac.uk By linking into the Ice family, you have found a genealogy jackpot, since all of the ICE family is descended from one person. This info can be found on the internet; Billy Lynn Cunningham (billcham@ovis.net) has compiled a VERY complete history of the Ice family going back to Fredericke IAAC, who came over on the boat. To get your bearings, George Ice (father of Harvey) is the grandson of Indian Billy Ice, who was the grandson of Fredericke Iaac/Ice . _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail