Gail, Thank you for writing this note, as it allows me to introduce some "new" information into the mix. Despite the "new" information, I would like to continue with the straw vote on IAGenWeb just so we can get a feeling for where we stand right now. Before the "new" information, I would like to respond to some things you say below. What good is the vote going to do? First it will let us know how we feel about this. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the majority don't care enough to respond. But, just suppose that a large majority feels that what IAGenWeb is doing is not in the best interest of the USGWP? In that case, I would recommend that the bylaws be revised so that soliciting funds is clearly not allowed. In Iowa's case, think GRANDFATHER (or GRANDPARENT). Iowa is a wonderful part of USGenWeb and we should all be very careful to show our respect even if some of us might disagree with Iowa's activities. This brings us to the "new" information. A few minutes ago a friend wrote me reminding me that TNGenWeb has been doing about the same (if not exactly the same) as what IAGenWeb is doing. And, I am a CC in TNGenWeb so why am I picking on Iowa? I suppose the answer to TNGenWeb is that they would be grandfathered too. I do not feel I am picking on Iowa, I have stated on several lists that Iowa is doing things the right way. My opinion, however, is that Iowa is doing the wrong thing (if that makes sense). My dim recollection is that KSGenWeb incorporated years ago but I don't know if they are soliciting money. And, I heard a tiny rumor that some CC in CA is soliciting money. In any case, I think it would be useful to proceed with this straw vote just so we can get a sense of how we all feel about mixing money into our organization. Respectfully, George On 24 Aug 2003 at 18:14, Gail Meyer Kilgore wrote: > I don't know who has the authority to call a vote, but I doubt if it > is an SC who really has no knowledge of what is going on. So, what > good is your vote going to do? IAGenWeb has done nothing wrong. You > are asking for a vote against an organization that has nothing to do > with IAGenWeb but supporting its server. You can't vote The Friends > of Iowa out, they don't belong to anything you can vote on. IAGenWeb > has done no wrong, they have not violated any by-laws. When The > Friends of Iowa was formed the attorney went over the USGenWeb By-Laws > with a fine tooth comb so as not to violate standing by-laws. If you > change the by-laws, why? IAGenWeb is not accepting donations. > > Gail Meyer Kilgore > Iowa State Coordinator > IAGenWeb: http://iagenweb.org > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 08/19/2003 > >
I find your comments interesting. IAGenWeb is not incorporated and will not be incorporated or there is nothing in the works for such at this time. I have been trying to find out why TN incorporated and as long as five years ago. What was their reason for doing so and are they incorporated non-profit? I see absolutely nothing wrong with it and it is probably a good idea. I have just been trying to find out why they did incorporate and not to use it against TN or KS or any other state that may have incorporated. Maybe it would be a good idea for IA to incorporate if I could find the reason why and what prompted some states to chose that direction. Would everything then posted to the county pages be part of a corporation? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: George Waller To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Vote Gail, Thank you for writing this note, as it allows me to introduce some "new" information into the mix. Despite the "new" information, I would like to continue with the straw vote on IAGenWeb just so we can get a feeling for where we stand right now. Before the "new" information, I would like to respond to some things you say below. What good is the vote going to do? First it will let us know how we feel about this. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the majority don't care enough to respond. But, just suppose that a large majority feels that what IAGenWeb is doing is not in the best interest of the USGWP? In that case, I would recommend that the bylaws be revised so that soliciting funds is clearly not allowed. In Iowa's case, think GRANDFATHER (or GRANDPARENT). Iowa is a wonderful part of USGenWeb and we should all be very careful to show our respect even if some of us might disagree with Iowa's activities. This brings us to the "new" information. A few minutes ago a friend wrote me reminding me that TNGenWeb has been doing about the same (if not exactly the same) as what IAGenWeb is doing. And, I am a CC in TNGenWeb so why am I picking on Iowa? I suppose the answer to TNGenWeb is that they would be grandfathered too. I do not feel I am picking on Iowa, I have stated on several lists that Iowa is doing things the right way. My opinion, however, is that Iowa is doing the wrong thing (if that makes sense). My dim recollection is that KSGenWeb incorporated years ago but I don't know if they are soliciting money. And, I heard a tiny rumor that some CC in CA is soliciting money. In any case, I think it would be useful to proceed with this straw vote just so we can get a sense of how we all feel about mixing money into our organization. Respectfully, George On 24 Aug 2003 at 18:14, Gail Meyer Kilgore wrote: > I don't know who has the authority to call a vote, but I doubt if it > is an SC who really has no knowledge of what is going on. So, what > good is your vote going to do? IAGenWeb has done nothing wrong. You > are asking for a vote against an organization that has nothing to do > with IAGenWeb but supporting its server. You can't vote The Friends > of Iowa out, they don't belong to anything you can vote on. IAGenWeb > has done no wrong, they have not violated any by-laws. When The > Friends of Iowa was formed the attorney went over the USGenWeb By-Laws > with a fine tooth comb so as not to violate standing by-laws. If you > change the by-laws, why? IAGenWeb is not accepting donations. > > Gail Meyer Kilgore > Iowa State Coordinator > IAGenWeb: http://iagenweb.org > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 08/19/2003 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 08/19/2003