This had nothing to do with "campaigning". Any one thinking it did was admitting that it was wrong and they were in breach of the USGenWeb bylaws. Other wise they would have happily have said "look what a great thing we have done. Look what great leaders we are." But no instead they claim that people can not read. You spin word to mean things never intended. USGenWeb has a very real history. That history is no begging for money for themselves. It is not what USGenWeb is about. If there is other XXGenWeb projects in breach then they need to change also. But this discussion is about three AB members that have taken it upon themselves to try to circumnavigate the bylaws. It is not about whether or not "XXXXX County Historical and Genealogical Society" can soliciting funds. Sure they can. More power to them. I give to them and pay my dues every year. This is about calling yourself a part USGenWeb, or XXGenWeb project and soliciting funds from USGenWeb and XXGenWeb pages. It is about how you can use USGenWeb to create your own personal empire. Rootsweb is great example. Most all of us gave to it. We thought it was going to be utopia. Something happened and it was sold to the money side of genealogy. The real question is, we came up with a real good idea. Are we now ready to sell that idea to the money side of genealogy? Do we really need to sell our principles? Are we going to finally let the naysayer win? How many time do we have to be told, you just can't do genealogy for nothing. The USGenWeb Project consists of a group of volunteers working together to provide Internet websites for genealogical research in every county and every state of the United States. The Project is non-commercial and fully committed to free access for everyone. DON'T FORGET TO SEND MONEY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY TO OUR PAY PAL ACCOUNT!!! Richard... Richard M. Howland Mailto:RichPump@wf.net ICQ # 898319