Until Virginia returns from out of state and can verify that the files were not "harvested" or typed by Jackie H. from a published book and submitted to the Archives, I have removed (after copying to my hard drive) the files in: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/taylor/churches/ I would also like to remind CC's that files cannot be copied from the USGenWeb Archives without the permission of the submitters. As we have stated since 1996, you are welcome to link to the files, which are there permanently. Some CC's think that data should be located at the county site. Researchers do not care which server or where the data is located, as long as they can find it. When the files are in the Archives, we can help the submitters assure that the data will not be copied and sold. When the data is located hither and yon over the Internet, with changing CC's, the data could be lost, sold, or locked behind a fee site. One case recently was, unknown to us, a former CC copied the Census images from the Archives. When another person took over that county, she copied the images over to her server, unaware that they had been copied illegally by the former CC. There have been many many cases of CC's leaving in a huff and removing data. Thank you all, Linda

At 02:08 PM 3/23/03 -0500, you wrote: >Until Virginia returns from out of state and can verify that the files >were not "harvested" or typed by Jackie H. from a published book and >submitted to the Archives, I have removed (after copying to my hard >drive) the files in: > >ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/taylor/churches/ > >I would also like to remind CC's that files cannot be copied from the >USGenWeb Archives without the permission of the submitters. As we have >stated since 1996, you are welcome to link to the files, which are there >permanently. Then pray tell why are these notices on Archives files? Have you changed the original agreement? ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ct/ctstate/biog/biog001a.txt USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or other presentation. Date sent: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:22:34 -0700 Subject: Re: ARCHIVES: Biographies From: candyg@theofficenet.com To: "George Waller" <HBLADM1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> From "The History of North Washington" Published 1904 Stevens County, WA Biographical Sketches ____________________________________________________ ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ct/ctstate/bibles/h400001a.txt USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or other presentation. Date sent: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 07:37:03 -0700 Send reply to: Chris Yoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net> From: Chris Yoder <cyoder@mail.tds.net> Subject: Hill Family of Guilford, CT To: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L <ROOTS- L@MAIL.EWORLD.COM> ______________________________________________________ ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ct/ctstate/misc/misc.txt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with the USGenWeb policy of providing free information on the Internet, this data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages cannot be reproduced in any format for profit or other gain. Copying of the files within by non-commercial individuals and libraries is encouraged. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Send reply to: <mburns@tea-house.com> From: "M. Burns" <mburns@tea-house.com> To: <hbladm1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> Subject: will of Dorothy Bird Lord, wife of Thomas Lord, one of the founders of Hartford CT Date sent: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 12:09:57 -0400 __________________________________________________________________ ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ca/alameda/newspapers/alaska1.txt Copyrighted © 1997 by Nancy Wright. Contributed for use inUSGenWeb Archives by Nancy Wright <tewright@cajun.net>. USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free genealogy information on the Internet, data may be freely used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages may NOT bereproduced in any format for profit or presentation by otherorganizations."Persons or organizations desiring to use this material for purposesother than as stated above, must contact the submitter or thelisted USGenWeb archivist. Uploaded 18 August 1997. Article pertaining to the ship "Alaska" which sank. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you may say "see where it says 'These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by other organizations.'" To that I say, yes I see that, but then we aren't some other organization. We are part of the USGenWeb Project, unless you are now declaring the USGenWeb Archives are not a part of the USGenWeb Project? As a part of the USGenWeb Project, it seems that it would, by your own declaration, be acceptable for entities that are a part of the USGenWeb Project to freely copy materials from the Archives for their sites - as long as the notice remains attached, for we are not using it for purposes other than what is stated to be used by the notice. >Some CC's think that data should be located at the county site. >Researchers do not care which server or where the data is located, as >long as they can find it. When the files are in the Archives, we can >help the submitters assure that the data will not be copied and sold. >When the data is located hither and yon over the Internet, with changing >CC's, the data could be lost, sold, or locked behind a fee site. >One case recently was, unknown to us, a former CC copied the Census >images from the Archives. When another person took over that county, she >copied the images over to her server, unaware that they had been copied >illegally by the former CC. So what you just said in the previous paragraph doesn't mean much does it if persons can copy and/or sell information from the Archives. >There have been many many cases of CC's leaving in a huff and removing >data. Yes, that's true, but that does not give rights to the Archives to go harvesting data from county sites without permission. Tim

> Then pray tell why are these notices on Archives files? Have you changed > the original agreement? Tim, where have you been?? You were subscribed to the archives list until last month and must have seen discussions (actually from the beginning) about what needs to be included on the "notice." The file you referenced was uploaded in 1998 and YES.. we have changed the wording of the Notice.. a few times... depending on the problems we encounter with copyright infringement, etc. Regardless of what we say in the Notice, the U.S. copyright laws still apply. No one can copy the work of someone else without their permission. On the main page of the Archives is this statement: " NOTICE: Printing the files within by non-commercial individuals and libraries is encouraged, as long as all notices and submitter information is included. Any other use, including copying files to other sites requires permission from the submitters PRIOR to uploading to any other sites. We encourage links to the state and county tables of content." That has been there since the first year, 1996. Linda