At 02:42 PM 3/24/03 -0500, Linda Lewis wrote: > >> Then pray tell why are these notices on Archives files? Have you changed >> the original agreement? > >Tim, where have you been?? You were subscribed to the archives list >until last month and must have seen discussions (actually from the >beginning) about what needs to be included on the "notice." I was subscribed until you or someone unsubbed me for daring to question. Being subbed and reading lists are two vastly different items. >The file you referenced was uploaded in 1998 and YES.. we have changed >the wording of the Notice.. a few times... depending on the problems we >encounter with copyright infringement, etc. Then they should all be changed. >Regardless of what we say in the Notice, the U.S. copyright laws still >apply. No one can copy the work of someone else without their >permission. Doesn't seem to stop Archives folks from snatching items from the county pages. >On the main page of the Archives is this statement: > >" NOTICE: Printing the files within by >non-commercial individuals and libraries is encouraged, as long as > all notices and submitter information is >included. Any other use, including copying files to other sites > requires permission from the submitters PRIOR >to uploading to any other sites. We encourage links to > the state and county tables of content." > >That has been there since the first year, 1996. Perhaps you need better quality control? Tim

Tim Stowell wrote: > > At 02:42 PM 3/24/03 -0500, Linda Lewis wrote: > > > >> Then pray tell why are these notices on Archives files? Have you changed > >> the original agreement? > > > >Tim, where have you been?? You were subscribed to the archives list > >until last month and must have seen discussions (actually from the > >beginning) about what needs to be included on the "notice." > > I was subscribed until you or someone unsubbed me for daring to question. > Questioned what?? The last thing I saw you question was about what would cc's do when we deleted a folder (which was temporary holding directory and should not have been used for links). > Being subbed and reading lists are two vastly different items. > > >The file you referenced was uploaded in 1998 and YES.. we have changed > >the wording of the Notice.. a few times... depending on the problems we > >encounter with copyright infringement, etc. > > Then they should all be changed. There is NO way we are going to go in and edit 6 gigs of text data to change a notice. Read the U.S. copyright laws again. > > >Regardless of what we say in the Notice, the U.S. copyright laws still > >apply. No one can copy the work of someone else without their > >permission. > > Doesn't seem to stop Archives folks from snatching items from the county > pages. You've never given us a sample of "Archives folks" "snatching" items from county pages. There are cases the other way around. Give us the url of a "snatched" file and we'll check it out and remove it if it's not in the Archives by permission. If you would advise your volunteers to be as deligent, instead of encouraging them to copy at will, we wouldn't be having this conversation. > > >On the main page of the Archives is this statement: > > > >" NOTICE: Printing the files within by > >non-commercial individuals and libraries is encouraged, as long as > > all notices and submitter information is > >included. Any other use, including copying files to other sites > > requires permission from the submitters PRIOR > >to uploading to any other sites. We encourage links to > > the state and county tables of content." > > > >That has been there since the first year, 1996. > > Perhaps you need better quality control? That statement is clear enough. > > Tim Linda