In an effort to make it appear that elections would be conducted in a fair and equitable manner, the EC was created as a subcommittee to the AB. In an effort to remove politics from the EC, the selection of EC members was left up to the EC. This was to prevent a small clique of Project members from having the appearance of controlling everything. >From a cynical point of view, it merely took this particular portion of Project politics out of the hands of the AB and placed it in the hands of the EC...because who dares to question any slate of candidates submitted to the AB? After all, if a slate is turned down, politics must be being played by the AB. I don't believe that any better system could be put in place....unless all the names of volunteers to serve on the EC would be put in a hat (or other container) and drawn out. But, then, the charge could be made that the drawer was politically motivated and just think of the lack of needed skills that could be brought into play with this method. The only thing that bothers me about the EC selecting its own members is that IF the purpose is to remove any possible political AB influence on elections, then it should be an EC procedural rule that NO AB member can serve on the EC committee as a worker. That the ONLY AB members are the two over-seers (i.e. the NC and the one appointed by the AB). Phyllis Rippee SW/SC CC Representative

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Phyllis Rippee wrote: (SNIP) > > The only thing that bothers me about the EC selecting its own members is > that IF the purpose is to remove any possible political AB influence on > elections, then it should be an EC procedural rule that NO AB member can > serve on the EC committee as a worker. That the ONLY AB members are the two > over-seers (i.e. the NC and the one appointed by the AB). > > Phyllis Rippee > SW/SC CC Representative I agree. David David W. Morgan dmorgan@efn.org Honolulu Hawaii SC - TXGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/ FM - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm ** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

>-----Original Message----- > >The only thing that bothers me about the EC selecting its own >members is >that IF the purpose is to remove any possible political AB influence on >elections, then it should be an EC procedural rule that NO AB >member can >serve on the EC committee as a worker. A few days ago, while discussing the proposed revisions of the EC policy, one of the matters discussed was an EC policy stating that an EC member is required to notify the EC chair not less than one day prior to the opening of nominations, if there is an intent to accept a nomination, and that the member would be unsubscribed from the EC's email list prior to the beginning of nominations. And an AB member made an objection "I do not see why anyone would want to add a rule, when it has been demonstrated that there is a way around what the rule tries to prevent." If AB members feel that it's improper for other AB members to serve on the EC, why doesn't the AB propose their own procedural rule? Even if the EC is a apparently a wholly-owned subsidiary of the AB (or there are people who would like it to be), it seems to me to be more appropriate for the AB to worry about their own procedures, not the ECs. After all, the EC proposed a rule designed to prevent nominees from taking direct part in the running of an election. Looks to me like the EC is covering the territory from their end. Angie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003

> The only thing that bothers me about the EC selecting its own members is > that IF the purpose is to remove any possible political AB influence on > elections, then it should be an EC procedural rule that NO AB member can > serve on the EC committee as a worker. That the ONLY AB members are the two > over-seers (i.e. the NC and the one appointed by the AB). I tend to agree with you on this one! That is, if they are on the AB already, then they shouldn't be considered, but if they are on the EC, then become an AB member that would be ok. If the Ec was removed from the EC because they then also became an AB member , then the AB should remove any SCs, serving as SC rep for their region, that were recalled. Bettie <>< -- "The heart remembers most what it has loved best" In memory of Kinsey Blalock, Rachel Reid, Jaicey Robberson, Kasey Morrow, Matt Hines, Rebecca & Lillian Sheffield