Who demanded your resignation, NOT an AB MEMBER and who demanded your CC to resign, NOT an AB member, I think if you read the email correctly before you blew the lid off your head, you would see that it was a recearcher searching in your state of Wyoming who sent the email and included the Regional Director's as copied. But as a CC Rep for the region, it tells me two things. 1. You don't read your email very often and you never answer emails sent to you as the SC for WY, which is part of your job description. 2. You haven't done your job as an SC or none of your counties would be showing a 2000 as the last time accessed. Yes, we are volunteers but 4 years... It is called County Reviews, when was the last time WY held a review? That is also part of your job description as SC of any state. Gail --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 2/18/2004

Not that it's any of your business (and really it isn't), and not that I owe you or anyone else an explanation (because I don't), I will still give you this information: You mistakenly assume that Wyoming is like any of the other states. Wyoming isn't. The total population of the state is less than any metropolitan city in other states. Internet access, if you can believe this, is still not available to the vast majority of the state. Again, if you can believe this, almost all of the population lives in "rural" areas. Demograhics show that there is a high percentage (compared with other states) that do not have electricity or indoor toilets. I am talking about a very "rustic" state. Priorities for the population do not include buying computers or doing genealogy; but to buy feed for their cattle. Most counties do not have a genealogical society, most only have a county historical society (also staffed by volunteers) and most of the records, if even available, have not been transcribed in hard form, let alone in electronic form. Most of the newspapers in the state do not have a website. The largest city in the state is Cheyenne, and! last I checked, only has a population of 45,000. Most of the state is desert and sage brush, wild antelope and wild horses. It is NOT unusual for some of the counties to go for very long periods without even an email from any researcher. What I'm telling you is that it is NOT unusual for some of the counties to have NO needed updates for very long periods of time. So I don't get all hot and bothered if a website has been updated for a long time. About half of my counties are unadopted. These are the counties with no internet access providers and even less population. When I do have a volunteer who is willing to 'mind the store' a litttle bit, I'm happy to turn the website over to them. The situation with Uinta is that the cc had already taken two other websites, and agreed to watch Unita for me, at my request, since this cc already had the other two adjoining counties. You can check the "visitor" counter on some of the websites and see that the websites don't even get very many "hits." This is particularly significant when you consider how long those websites have been up and running. As far as complaints about anything happening, or not happening, about the WyGenWeb, I have no patience for people who want to complain, but not volunteer. I have no patience with those who demand action FROM a volunteer. The correct response from these folks is, "how can I help?" or "I see this or that website hasn't been updated for quite awhile, is there anything I can do to help?" And finally, I think it is important to realize that people have lives outside the USGenWeb. Computers get viruses, emails are lost. (Until I got some anti-viral software), I lost the entire contents of my hard drive on two occasions within the last two years. If people don't follow-up, I couldn't get back to them. My company has transferred me three times within the last 6 months, requiring a new addy each time, and quite, frankly, after working 16 hour days 7 days a week for the last year, updating the WyGenWeb hasn't been high on my priority list. The general attitude of Wyomingites is don't mess with my gun, hunting dog, horse or spouse (not necessarily in that order, but that's pretty close to the right order anyway). I might add 'don't mess with my property' also, which includes websites. Now I think that everyone here can agree that their state has unique differences from any other state. Wyoming is no exception. I have outlined some aspects of running the WyGenWeb. There are several other factors that contribute to slow responses and missed links, and slow updates. Falling into the "other" category is the fact that all of us in the WyGenWeb have been in the project for a number of years. If we take a knee-jerk response or attitude to attacks or imagined attacks, you can find the "roots" of those attitudes in the general history of the USGenWeb. We've had "volunteers" who only wanted a website in the WyGenWeb so they could ram down our throats their particular viewpoint concerning the "politics" in the USGenWeb. Some of those events has caused all of us in the WyGenWeb to just keep a low profile and not get involved in whatever the current hysteria may be. For those reasons, I don't think we can blame anyone in the project for letting 'their horse ru! n wild' and find it a little difficult to rein in their emotions. Unfortunately, this project has a long history of people who want to mind someone else's business. And this attitude is anathema to anyone living in Wyoming! Some of you remind me of bosses I've had on "real" jobs. They are quick to cirticize and demand that something be done, but real slow on compliments, support, caring, and seeking honest answers or solutions, because the only "acceptable" performance is that nothing ever been found lacking or in error. No recognition for service already rendered, no meeting of human to human, just a robotic and bloodless demand that everything be perfect, while being perfectly ignorant of the special circumstances of each employee or situation. Now you say that four years is a little long for not having an update. Ok, fair enough. Give me a few good cc's that are willing to stay and do research, maintain my websites, NOT be engaged in politics within our WyGenWeb (we have a specific WyGenWeb bylaw prohibiting such activity, requiring only that cc's maintain their website and not do "politics" in our state), cc's who are willing to transcribe records, keep links unbroken, etc. The WyGenW! eb also has a policy that any cc must have strong roots (not just an occasional ancestor) in our state, OR currently living in the state. As the SC, I'm usually just grateful that everyone answers roll call or that the addy I have doesn't bounce. This is how the WyGenWeb has been since its creation. In typical Wyoming fashion, you get to pushing people, and they'll just dig their heels in deeper (no surprise that I'd not fix a broken link just for the pure onery of it!) As I started this long diatribe, I don't believe I owe anyone an explanation. But, I've given it anyway. I look for some understanding, and to state the state's viewpoint on this. To clean up another couple of questions: I'm "Youda Youda." When I installed Windows, that's what I put, because I don't like my name automatically inserted, or harvested by hackers. If the pseudonym bothers you, then don't answer any of my emails (chances are that won't break my heart anyway). If you want daily review of emails from the USGenWeb, then get some solution to the SPAM problem on the USGenWeb main website! Otherwise, you can expect to hear from me when I have time to slog through the crap emails and requests for me (a female) to buy Viagra online and to visit any number of websites where I can view "pu$$y." (Sorry if that offends you; it offends me too which is why I have to get really motivated to sort through these emails). And I *know* they are USGenWeb harvested because the Yahoo addy is only used for USGenWeb activities! If you want to have a USGenWeb website police, expect resistance from the WyGenWeb. For a volunteer organization, you start pushing us with demands and ultimatums, you can except Wyoming to succeed from the Union! This kind of thing is typical of the attitudes in the USGenWeb that we regularly try to avoid! Instead of mutual respect and support, the USGenWeb has a long history of punitive and Machiavellian tactics. To those, I say, GET A LIFE! As for putting a "good face" to visitors, I say this: we are a volunteer organization, not a commercial enterprise. We provide genealogical and historical information as we have time, as a HOBBY! If websites aren't perfect for those visitors who are getting FREE and EASY access to information without the bother of doing REAL research from PRIMARY documents, then tough cookies! I'd say, that the WyGenWeb is a FREE service and STARTING point for researchers, and if anyone believes that research is accomplished from your computer, then they better get to some classes on how to do REAL research! If the broken link offends them, then I really don't care! Get out from behind the computer, and go to the country courthouse, and stop expecting the WyGenWeb to do research *for* them. Again, I repeat, this is a VOLUNTEER organization! Here's some simple facts for the Machiavellian folks: Rootsweb accounts belong to whoever has those accounts. Ya just ain't gonna get our websites or cooperation unless you approach us with a little different attitude. If you can't figure out what that attitude is, then I guess we'll just have to pray for you, cuz you're a lost cause. Now I think I've wasted quite enough baudwidth on this subject, and wasted quite enough time. A note saying, "Hey, Carol! Haven't heard from you for awhile. Are you OK, everything going OK? Can we PLEASE get the old links fixed?" would have done wonders for getting what you wanted from me! But emails to various people in the USGenWeb and ultimatums just is a "burr under my saddle." If that attitude seems "immature" to anyone, then I just have to say that why did you respond with a character attack instead of a genuine concern for ME as a person? Wouldn't it be a little more positive and productive to have approached me differently? And if the concern was so great, then why only write me twice in two years? (see the information about losing the contents of my hard drive above . . . DUH! Doesn't some *other* causes ever enter anyone's mind except "dereliction of duty?" Oh PA-LLEEEEZE! This attitude makes me want to put a rattlesnack in your bedroll!) Heck! With all the time I've wasted dealing with this crap, I could've had time to update the links some of you are so worried about. The horse is going back to the stable now. You all have fun. Get on to your next assassination, whether from web police, volunteers, or those who get their kicks from finding fault in others. Carol Gail Meyer Kilgore <gkilgore@globalcrossing.net> wrote: Who demanded your resignation, NOT an AB MEMBER and who demanded your CC to resign, NOT an AB member, I think if you read the email correctly before you blew the lid off your head, you would see that it was a recearcher searching in your state of Wyoming who sent the email and included the Regional Director's as copied. But as a CC Rep for the region, it tells me two things. 1. You don't read your email very often and you never answer emails sent to you as the SC for WY, which is part of your job description. 2. You haven't done your job as an SC or none of your counties would be showing a 2000 as the last time accessed. Yes, we are volunteers but 4 years... It is called County Reviews, when was the last time WY held a review? That is also part of your job description as SC of any state. 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