Have to say, I'm with Carol on this one. Look at what happened. A former (possibly disgruntled) USGW member writes a very unpleasant note to everyone under the sun demanding a SC steps down. It never ceases to amaze me how those who get things for free would complain the most and the loudest. An AB member says, "I hope we hear from the WY SC or the ASC on this matter so nothing else from the Region has to be done." Probably not meant as a threat, but sure could be mistaken for one. And all this happening at the time the AB is looking into the formation of an "oversight" committee to keep tabs on the states. What is anyone to think? Carol is 100% correct. We are all volunteers here, and life sometimes gets in the way. Which one of us has the perfect state? As for the CCs who sometimes fall down on the job, maybe...just maybe...there are sometimes perfectly good reasons. Maybe there are things that only the SC knows or understands. Yep, I think I would be furious, too. I've never known a volunteer organization that's so hard, demanding, and unforgiving of it's workers. Ellen Pack MS SC At 02:02 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Carol, > >whooo.... coral them horses up! Step back and take a deep breath. We all >get complaints from time to time. I sure didn't see anything that has been >posted to the list by Board Members about doing anything about you or a CC. > >I can understand the guys point about the broken link to GenConnect, >GenConnect died in June of 2001 and it is February of 2004. I don't recall >when the redirects to the Message Boards died but it has been some time ago. >This is an issue that I've delt with and continue to do so with the >WorldGenWeb. We need to put our best impression forward. > >Nathan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Youda Youda [mailto:wygenweb@yahoo.com] >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:31 PM >To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [STATE-COORD] Wyoming > > >And now that I'm in a fighting mood, and sorry to make you all stomach >another email from someone griping . . . > >I really MUST say, that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will ANYONE, EVER again >contact one of my CC's demanding that they step down without going through >ME FIRST! > >Get that imprinted on your foreheads, cuz that is totally unacceptable and I >will not tolerate it without making a fuss like this project has never seen >before (and that is saying a lot, as you know). > >You folks that believe the AB abuses their authority, take note! This is an >incident that canNOT be tolerated under any circumstance! NO ONE has the >right to demand or make ultimatums to a cc without going through the SC >first!!!!! Commendeering passwords and demanding things of a cc before >releasing a password to their OWN website without contacting the SC first is >such a blatant over-step in this project as to defy any other issue that has >EVER been brought to this forum, or any other, in the past! > >I will fight for my CC's. Get that. Don't EVER, EVER do this to another >one of my CC's or any other in this project, or I will demand YOUR >resignation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 > >Carol >STILL THE SC OF WYOMING > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing

I don't think John sent his email to every one under the sun. He sent it to the ASC of WY since the SC wouldn't answer him and he sent it to the Regional Directors. Now, excuse me, but I don't think we are everyone under the sun. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Pack" <e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [STATE-COORD] Wyoming > Have to say, I'm with Carol on this one. > > Look at what happened. > > A former (possibly disgruntled) USGW member writes a very unpleasant note > to everyone under the sun demanding a SC steps down. It never ceases to > amaze me how those who get things for free would complain the most and the > loudest. > > An AB member says, "I hope we hear from the WY SC or the ASC on this matter > so nothing else from the Region has to be done." > Probably not meant as a threat, but sure could be mistaken for one. > > And all this happening at the time the AB is looking into the formation of > an "oversight" committee to keep tabs on the states. What is anyone to think? > > Carol is 100% correct. We are all volunteers here, and life sometimes gets > in the way. Which one of us has the perfect state? > > As for the CCs who sometimes fall down on the job, maybe...just > maybe...there are sometimes perfectly good reasons. Maybe there are things > that only the SC knows or understands. > > Yep, I think I would be furious, too. I've never known a volunteer > organization that's so hard, demanding, and unforgiving of it's workers. > > Ellen Pack > MS SC > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:02 PM 2/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >Carol, > > > >whooo.... coral them horses up! Step back and take a deep breath. We all > >get complaints from time to time. I sure didn't see anything that has been > >posted to the list by Board Members about doing anything about you or a CC. > > > >I can understand the guys point about the broken link to GenConnect, > >GenConnect died in June of 2001 and it is February of 2004. I don't recall > >when the redirects to the Message Boards died but it has been some time ago. > >This is an issue that I've delt with and continue to do so with the > >WorldGenWeb. We need to put our best impression forward. > > > >Nathan > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Youda Youda [mailto:wygenweb@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:31 PM > >To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [STATE-COORD] Wyoming > > > > > >And now that I'm in a fighting mood, and sorry to make you all stomach > >another email from someone griping . . . > > > >I really MUST say, that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will ANYONE, EVER again > >contact one of my CC's demanding that they step down without going through > >ME FIRST! > > > >Get that imprinted on your foreheads, cuz that is totally unacceptable and I > >will not tolerate it without making a fuss like this project has never seen > >before (and that is saying a lot, as you know). > > > >You folks that believe the AB abuses their authority, take note! This is an > >incident that canNOT be tolerated under any circumstance! NO ONE has the > >right to demand or make ultimatums to a cc without going through the SC > >first!!!!! Commendeering passwords and demanding things of a cc before > >releasing a password to their OWN website without contacting the SC first is > >such a blatant over-step in this project as to defy any other issue that has > >EVER been brought to this forum, or any other, in the past! > > > >I will fight for my CC's. Get that. Don't EVER, EVER do this to another > >one of my CC's or any other in this project, or I will demand YOUR > >resignation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 > > > >Carol > >STILL THE SC OF WYOMING > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 2/18/2004