If you have high speed internet that is always on, you have a static IP - it is the same all of the time. If you have dial-up internet, your IP is different each time you connect. The IP address belongs to your internet service provider, and you share an IP with others on the same ISP. An IP address is not a secret piece of information. Yours is in the header of your posting to this list. Dale Grimm OHGenWeb SC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Kilmer Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks Don't take this off the state list. This is how some of us learn about a static IP number. How do you get one? What good is it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butler County Coordinator" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > Sorry I did not notice that my response went to the list until I received > a copy of it, but since few, if any, of us have a static IP address, does > it really matter who sees it? It is constantly changing. > > > Wilda Murphy, county coordinator > http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > > > In a message dated 12/28/2009 1:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Sherri, > > My computer is scanned by AVG every 12 hours. > > My IP address changes several times a day so I can't > give you an IP. I haven't uploaded to HIGenWeb or > Edgar IL since the clear from the last hacker attack. > > Maggie > > -------------- > Folks, if you respond to Sherri, please do so privately, especially if > you > include personal information, such as your computer's IP address. Please > send that privately to Sherri. No one else should have that information > other > than Sherri. > > Thanks. > Denise > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2590 - Release Date: > 12/28/09 02:16:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that even broadband ISP's usually give you dynamic IP addresses, not static. Here is one explanation of it: http://searchwindevelopment.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid8_gci520967,00.html (it does throw an ad in your face that you have to close). Wilda Murphy, county coordinator http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Grimm To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks If you have high speed internet that is always on, you have a static IP - it is the same all of the time. If you have dial-up internet, your IP is different each time you connect. The IP address belongs to your internet service provider, and you share an IP with others on the same ISP. An IP address is not a secret piece of information. Yours is in the header of your posting to this list. Dale Grimm OHGenWeb SC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Kilmer Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks Don't take this off the state list. This is how some of us learn about a static IP number. How do you get one? What good is it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butler County Coordinator" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > Sorry I did not notice that my response went to the list until I received > a copy of it, but since few, if any, of us have a static IP address, does > it really matter who sees it? It is constantly changing. > > > Wilda Murphy, county coordinator > http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > > > In a message dated 12/28/2009 1:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Sherri, > > My computer is scanned by AVG every 12 hours. > > My IP address changes several times a day so I can't > give you an IP. I haven't uploaded to HIGenWeb or > Edgar IL since the clear from the last hacker attack. > > Maggie > > -------------- > Folks, if you respond to Sherri, please do so privately, especially if > you > include personal information, such as your computer's IP address. Please > send that privately to Sherri. No one else should have that information > other > than Sherri. > > Thanks. > Denise > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2590 - Release Date: > 12/28/09 02:16:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2591 - Release Date: 12/28/09 14:32:00

Thanks Dale. This pretty well tells the story and I understand it this way. The IP address for my e-mail is owned by my home server, plateautel. It also tells me why some friends who were also on plateautel had a different phone connation than I had when I was using dial up. Apparently each phone dial up had several IP addresses to handle the connections. Now I have had a wireless connection for the past four years and I just let my server worry about the connection, The wireless is faster than my computer operates. Then my IP address for NMGenWeb.us is owned (and paid for ) by me and it never changes. My concern was that a hacker would have to have the IP number for the web server where the counties are located and should not have anything to do with the e-mail IP address. Is this correct thinking? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ CC for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Harding, Lea, Lincoln, Quay, and Roosevelt Counties in New Mexico. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Grimm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > If you have high speed internet that is always on, you have a static IP - > it > is the same all of the time. > > If you have dial-up internet, your IP is different each time you connect. > > The IP address belongs to your internet service provider, and you share an > IP with others on the same ISP. > > An IP address is not a secret piece of information. Yours is in the > header > of your posting to this list. > > > Dale Grimm > OHGenWeb SC > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Kilmer > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > Don't take this off the state list. This is how some of us learn about a > static IP number. How do you get one? What good is it? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Butler County Coordinator" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:06 PM > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > >> Sorry I did not notice that my response went to the list until I received >> a copy of it, but since few, if any, of us have a static IP address, does >> it really matter who sees it? It is constantly changing. >> >> >> Wilda Murphy, county coordinator >> http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12/28/2009 1:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Sherri, >> >> My computer is scanned by AVG every 12 hours. >> >> My IP address changes several times a day so I can't >> give you an IP. I haven't uploaded to HIGenWeb or >> Edgar IL since the clear from the last hacker attack. >> >> Maggie >> >> -------------- >> Folks, if you respond to Sherri, please do so privately, especially if >> you >> include personal information, such as your computer's IP address. >> Please >> send that privately to Sherri. No one else should have that information >> other >> than Sherri. >> >> Thanks. >> Denise >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2590 - Release Date: >> 12/28/09 02:16:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's very common with web host providers to have the mail service for a domain on the same server and ip address as the web pages. For example, www.nmgenweb.us, is on IP address 98.130.159.31 at IX Webhosting. If you send or receive mail using nmgenweb.us as part of the email address and through the mail server they provide, it will be that same IP address. Most providers of Internet connections to your home require (or at least try to force) you to use their email server for sending mail. That would be entirely different than the IP and server your web pages are retrieved from. Only a few weird folks like me use their own email server for sending. Mike St. Clair -------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold Kilmer" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:26 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > Thanks Dale. This pretty well tells the story and I understand it this > way. > The IP address for my e-mail is owned by my home server, plateautel. It > also tells me why some friends who were also on plateautel had a different > phone connation than I had when I was using dial up. Apparently each phone > dial up had several IP addresses to handle the connections. Now I have > had > a wireless connection for the past four years and I just let my server > worry > about the connection, The wireless is faster than my computer operates. > > Then my IP address for NMGenWeb.us is owned (and paid for ) by me and it > never changes. > > My concern was that a hacker would have to have the IP number for the web > server where the counties are located and should not have anything to do > with the e-mail IP address. > > Is this correct thinking? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ > CC for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Harding, Lea, > Lincoln, Quay, and Roosevelt Counties in New Mexico. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Grimm" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53 AM > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > >> If you have high speed internet that is always on, you have a static IP - >> it >> is the same all of the time. >> >> If you have dial-up internet, your IP is different each time you connect. >> >> The IP address belongs to your internet service provider, and you share >> an >> IP with others on the same ISP. >> >> An IP address is not a secret piece of information. Yours is in the >> header >> of your posting to this list. >> >> >> Dale Grimm >> OHGenWeb SC >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Kilmer >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >> >> Don't take this off the state list. This is how some of us learn about a >> static IP number. How do you get one? What good is it? >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Butler County Coordinator" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >> >> >>> Sorry I did not notice that my response went to the list until I >>> received >>> a copy of it, but since few, if any, of us have a static IP address, >>> does >>> it really matter who sees it? It is constantly changing. >>> >>> >>> Wilda Murphy, county coordinator >>> http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Atta

The IP address for your internet connection belongs to your ISP. There is no separate IP for e-mails. The IP for NMGenWeb.us is owned by IX. You may be leasing it from them, but it is registered to them. If you discontinue your hosting with them or stop paying for it, they can take it back and re-use it. And my DSL connection is faster than I am. Dale > Thanks Dale. This pretty well tells the story and I understand it this > way. > The IP address for my e-mail is owned by my home server, plateautel. It > also tells me why some friends who were also on plateautel had a different > phone connation than I had when I was using dial up. Apparently each phone > dial up had several IP addresses to handle the connections. Now I have > had > a wireless connection for the past four years and I just let my server > worry > about the connection, The wireless is faster than my computer operates. > > Then my IP address for NMGenWeb.us is owned (and paid for ) by me and it > never changes. > > My concern was that a hacker would have to have the IP number for the web > server where the counties are located and should not have anything to do > with the e-mail IP address. > > Is this correct thinking? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ > CC for Curry, De Baca, Guadalupe, Harding, Lea, > Lincoln, Quay, and Roosevelt Counties in New Mexico. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Grimm" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:53 AM > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks > > >> If you have high speed internet that is always on, you have a static IP >> - >> it >> is the same all of the time. >> >> If you have dial-up internet, your IP is different each time you >> connect. >> >> The IP address belongs to your internet service provider, and you share >> an >> IP with others on the same ISP. >> >> An IP address is not a secret piece of information. Yours is in the >> header >> of your posting to this list. >> >> >> Dale Grimm >> OHGenWeb SC >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harold Kilmer >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >> >> Don't take this off the state list. This is how some of us learn about >> a >> static IP number. How do you get one? What good is it? >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Harold Kilmer, NMGenWeb SC http://www.nmgenweb.us/ >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Butler County Coordinator" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >> >> >>> Sorry I did not notice that my response went to the list until I >>> received >>> a copy of it, but since few, if any, of us have a static IP address, >>> does >>> it really matter who sees it? It is constantly changing. >>> >>> >>> Wilda Murphy, county coordinator >>> http://theusgenweb.org/al/butler/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hacker Attacks >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 12/28/2009 1:34:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> Sherri, >>> >>> My computer is scanned by AVG every 12 hours. >>> >>> My IP address changes several times a day so I can't >>> give you an IP. I haven't uploaded to HIGenWeb or >>> Edgar IL since the clear from the last hacker attack. >>> >>> Maggie >>> >>> -------------- >>> Folks, if you respond to Sherri, please do so privately, especially if >>> you >>> include personal information, such as your computer's IP address. >>> Please >>> send that privately to Sherri. No one else should have that >>> information >>> other >>> than Sherri. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Denise >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2590 - Release Date: >>> 12/28/09 02:16:00 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >