Derick, I am in no way suggesting that your pages don't reflect the many server resources available to your CC's. My concern is more, have you *specifically* offered to the CC's affected by these server issues, a place temporarily within your state directories, or *specifically* presented to them other server resources as State Coordinator of the NCGenWeb Project? Server issues happen. Your NCGenWeb Project County Coordinators, volunteers, contributors and NCGenWeb Project visitors should not be penalized for a situation that is out of their control. Tina Vickery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick S. Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] Re: NCGenNet server problems > Tina, > > The NCGWP volunteer page spells out the guide lines for obtaining web space: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/volunteer.html > > We make no specific recommendations for ISPs. > We try to offer valid alternatives and encourage members to exercise their > options. > Please visit the above page and feel free to offer suggestions as to how we > can improve upon it. > > Derick S. Hartshorn > NCGenWeb State Coordinator > nc@usgenweb.org > > > > At 12:41 AM 12/16/02, you wrote: > >Derick, > > > >Just my personal observation, but have you offered to your CC's affected > >by these server issues, a place temporarily within your state directories, > >or presented to them other server resources? > > > >Tina Vickery > >SC WIGenWeb Project > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Derick S. Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> > >To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:46 AM > >Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Re: NCGenNet server problems > > > > > > > Jan, > > > > > > I have been very understanding. I have personally experienced the same > >kind > > > of hardware problems back in 1994. That's why I can be sympathetic. I > > > represent the NCGenWen Project, as I was elected to do. If I was on the > > > Board of the USGenNet, I would be just as supportive of their problems. I > > > have been elected to represent my constituants. I'm sure you can > >understand > > > my position. I think, until New Year's Eve, that time limit is reasonable > > > to expect the restoration of the missing NCGWP pages. > > > > > > As for the notifications on the NCGWP pages, that has been done by the > > > pages owners themselved. At the present time, those pages read: > > > > > > Welcome to USGenNet Inc. > > > We are currently in the process of replacing our main server. Please visit > > > our temporary location for updates and server replacement status. > > > We apologize for any inconvenience that we may have caused you. --The > > > USGenNet Staff > > > > > > or messages to that effect > > > > > > This is not acceptable to the NCGenWeb Project. Please refer to my > >original > > > message to avoid any misquotes. > > > > > > Derick S. Hartshorn > > > NCGenWeb State Coordinator > > > nc@usgenweb.org > > > > > > > > > At 01:36 AM 12/16/02, you wrote: > > > >Mr. Hartshorn, > > > > > > > >While I find this a very unfortunate situation that USGennet is down and > >you > > > >have pages in the NCGenWeb that are not being accessed by visitors, I > > > >believe that the server will be installed in as expedient a manner as > > > >possible. And believe me, you aren't the only state with this problem! > > > > > > > >Would it be so difficult for you to put some sort of note on the main > >North > > > >Carolina page? USGennet has notes up - why can't you? Give 'em a break! > > > > > > > >Just my two cents worth! > > > > > > > >Jan Cortez > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Derick S. Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> > > > >To: <NCGENWEB-DISCUSS-L@rootsweb.com>; <NCGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com>; > > > ><PaulDBuckley@worldnet.att.net>; <angie@angiesplace.behosting.com>; > > > ><crystal@pebbles.net>; <CDZ4U@aol.com>; <nduffy@patch.net>; > > > ><Babydolls1@webtv.net>; <bordeaux@rconnect.com>; <camorrison@ibm.net>; > > > ><canova@tstar.net>; <claricemills@sprintmail.com>; > > > ><clint@washington.xtn.net>; <cpbarnes@patriot.net>; <crilley@eramp.net>; > > > ><D1D@prodigy.net>; <DAStoddard@aol.com>; <DRicci205@aol.com>; > > > ><freebirdnc@yahoo.com>; <gsmith@weblnk.net>; <hcgenhis@brinet.com>; > > > ><hen1@idt.net>; <hollyft@bright.net>; <javan@paonline.com>; > > > ><jhyde01@mail.orion.org>; <jmack@carolina.net>; <jqtravel@pacbell.net>; > > > ><jyhy55@juno.com>; <knightma@nightly.com>; > ><linda_sorrell753@hotmail.com>; > > > ><LinMil@dnet.net>; <listmaster@rootsweb.com>; <marceline@mindspring.com>; > > > ><martingen@hotmail.com>; <mary@thedrake.org>; > ><micajah@pencoelectric.org>; > > > ><mingianc@blueridge.net>; <mnagy43021@ameritech.net>; > > > ><mooregen@mindspring.com>; <MWISE@prodigy.net>; <mthiesse@swbell.net>; > > > ><ncgen@mindspring.com>; <ncrowan@yahoo.com>; <pday@elltel.net>; > > > ><perquimanscountync@hotmail.com>; <pettit@Adobe.COM>; > > > ><pinkn001@mc.duke.edu>; <pituso@mesh.net>; <poohtiggr@aol.com>; > > > ><poppabear@cconnect.net>; <ppspatters@blueridge.net>; > ><randy@perigee.net>; > > > ><rhonda@smnet.net>; <ScottLee@pobox.com>; <seawolf@glendale.cc.ca.us>; > > > ><shari@klondyke.net>; <sheppard@hargray.com>; <snuffy20@telocity.com>; > > > ><swoosley@softhome.net>; <takelley@erols.com>; <teresa@maro.net>; > > > ><thefolks@betterthanmost.com>; <tim@inland.net>; <tombird@shelby.net>; > > > ><Virgo90675@aol.com>; <wbagley@interpath.com>; <winslow@vnet.net>; > > > ><writeus@genealogybookstore.com>; <WTworek@mindspring.com>; > > > ><wylchild@hpolicy.duke.edu>; "Richard Harrison" <IsaiahHarrison@cs.com>; > > > >"Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net>; "Ron Eason" > > > ><rkeason@directvinternet.com>; "Jimmy Epperson" <eppy@ticnet.com>; "Jana > > > >Black" <janab@slip.net>; "Larry Flesher" <lflesher@fidnet.com>; "Mary Ann > > > >Hetrick" <nw_plains_sc_rep@hotmail.com>; "Joe Miller" <mio@netins.net>; > > > >"Bill Oliver" <wnoliver@worldnet.att.net>; "Jan Cortez" > > > ><cristian@netonecom.net>; "Phyllis Rippee" <wchs@getgoin.net>; "Vicki > > > >Shaffer" <tngibson@att.net>; "Tina Vickery" <tsvickery@adelphia.net>; > > > >"Robert Bremer" <bremerr@oclc.org>; "Roger Swafford" > ><sagitta56@mchsi.com>; > > > >"Linda Lewis" <cityslic@ix.netcom.com>; <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Cc: <USGW-ALL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:12 PM > > > >Subject: NCGenNet server problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NCGenWeb Project and its members are being severely harmed by the > > > > > inaccessibility of pages hosted by USGenNet. > > > > > > > > > > I have sympathy for USGenNet and their members but Project patrons > >trying > > > > > to access our pages through the USGenWeb Project county page > > > > > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/county.html) are not currently > >being > > > > > served. I have received several complaints, as have our ASC's, and > >others. > > > > > Most folks have expressed displeasure at not having a single county > > > >source, > > > > > for some particular Eastern North Carolina county. They have reported > >that > > > > > the ALHN pages (served by Fred Smoot's server), the AHGP page (also > >served > > > > > by Mr. Smoot's server) and USGenNet (Mr. Smoot himself), were down and > > > > > waiting for new hardware replacements. In addition Diane Mason Kelly, > > > > > (President of Webroots.org, founder of ncroots.com and CC of several > > > > > Eastern NCGWP counties) had all her NC GenWeb Project pages down. She > > > >fails > > > > > to explain the entire down-time problem but does present a lovely > > > >Christmas > > > > > page at www.ncroots.com. She sent a post to our Project indicating > > > >USGenNet > > > > > hardware problems--nothing else. Nothing to indicate when her NCGWP > >sites > > > > > would become re-actived. Her Burke County link > >(http://ncroots.com/Burke/) > > > > > to the Burke Co. Data Base > >(http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncburke/burkedat.htm) > > > > > seems to be a pretty honest appraisal of the entire situation. I do > > > > > disagree with several points made but overall, it seems to be quite > > > >accurate. > > > > > > > > > > Nobody from the USGenNet has ever contacted me regarding the estimated > > > > > down-time, let alone offered an apology for the inconvenience they > >have > > > > > caused our Project so I have no idea how long our affiliated NCGenWeb > > > > > Project pages will be out of service. > > > > > > > > > > It is the responsibility of each page owner to provide for server > >space > > > > > from whatever individual or entity they choose. Nevertheless, it is > >the > > > > > responsibility of that same page owner to provide for contingency > >plans > > > > > when the unexpected occurs. > > > > > > > > > > I am forced by the current situation to issue a notice to page owners > >of > > > > > any and all USGenNet-hosted sites within our NCGenWeb Project. > >Measures > > > > > must be taken, and taken immediately. Effective midnight, December > >31st, > > > > > 2002, any pages not active in the NCGenWeb Project shall be declared > >to be > > > > > abandoned and will be retained by the NCGenWeb Project to be available > >for > > > > > adoption and/or re-assignment to an appropriate, knowledgeable and > > > >reliable > > > > > page owner. > > > > > > > > > > I believe that two weeks is ample time for the situation to correct > >itself > > > > > or for the CC page owners to find alternate server space. For that > >reason, > > > > > I trust that the NCGenWeb Project will be on even track in 2003 and > >that > > > > > each and every one of you will enjoy a blessed holiday season and > >reflect > > > > > on God's blessings on us all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Derick S. Hartshorn > > > > > NCGenWeb State Coordinator > > > > > nc@usgenweb.org > > > > > > > > > > Visit the NC home page at: > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Derick S. Hartshorn > > > NCGenWeb State Coordinator > > > nc@usgenweb.org > > > > > > Visit the NC home page at: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > > > > Derick S. Hartshorn > NCGenWeb State Coordinator > nc@usgenweb.org > > Visit the NC home page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ >