The SC could put up a page on the state web site: "Sorry this web site is temporarily down. Check here for the most recent developments (and link to the usgennet web site). For more information about this county, contact (and put CC's e-mail addy here)" Then link from the state site to this page and comment out the current web site link. All you need to do is add a "!-- " in front of the <a href... in the html code, like this: <!-- a href... and put a " --" at the end of the link's ".../a>", like this: /a --> Once the server is restored, all you do is remove the links to the temp page and delete the added code from the commented out links. Derrick: If rootsweb went down, would declare all the rest of the NC web sites abandoned? --- Ellen Pack <e.j.pack@telocity.com> wrote: > At 11:12 AM 12/16/2002 -0500, Derick wrote: > ><snip> > >In an earlier response to Ellen, I noted that the > page owner had placed a > >USGenNet redirect to explain the problem. > > I'm sorry, apparently I missed your earlier > response, so I'm unable to comment. > > What I'm saying basically is that this is not a > problem that effects only > one state, or even one project. But even if it did, > it's not a time to > place more pressure on good CCs to do something they > may not be able to do. > > It would, however, be a good time to support and > assist them. Place a > notice on the state page, offer to help CCs find > alternative temporary or > permanent space if they desire, encourage them to > place notices on their > county lists, help them fend off complaints from > researchers, and so forth. > > Times like this people need help, not a short "or > else", and especially not > at this busy time of the year. I know you're > concerned about the state, > and rightly so, but think of it in the long term. I > know you don't want to > lose the sites and data temporarily, but would it be > better to lose it all > permanently? > > Ellen > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Fisher" <sdgenweb@yahoo.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] NCGenNet server problems [snip] > Derrick: If rootsweb went down, would declare all the > rest of the NC web sites abandoned? [snip] If Rootsweb went down, most of us couldn't declare anything to a wide audience since many of us use Rootsweb for our lists. I do have an "internal" (to my email client) list of my CCs, so I could at least get that far. George p.s. I'll let Derick answer your question to him re NC... however speaking MA and CT I would give it a good while before asking CCs to move. But, eventually if a CC does not have an active site, that CC would need to be replaced.

I would certainly hope that folks would be understanding with a major problem with RootsWeb. I also believe that patience should be observed with this server outage. If any of my counties were down, I would set up the link from the state page to go to a temporary page that explains the problem and inviting them to check back later. I have done that in the past for a different server that was down. Maybe Ed won't mind if I share an example of one of the pages - http://www.rootsweb.com/~arclark/ - that was used several years ago when his server was down. Betsy On 12:51 PM 12/16/2002 -0800, Joy Fisher said: >The SC could put up a page on the state web site: > >"Sorry this web site is temporarily down. Check here >for the most recent developments (and link to the >usgennet web site). For more information about this >county, contact (and put CC's e-mail addy here)" > >Then link from the state site to this page and comment >out the current web site link. All you need to do is >add a "!-- " in front of the <a href... in the html >code, like this: > ><!-- a href... > >and put a " --" at the end of the link's ".../a>", >like this: > >/a --> > >Once the server is restored, all you do is remove the >links to the temp page and delete the added code from >the commented out links. > >Derrick: If rootsweb went down, would declare all the >rest of the NC web sites abandoned? > >--- Ellen Pack <e.j.pack@telocity.com> wrote: > > At 11:12 AM 12/16/2002 -0500, Derick wrote: > > ><snip> > > >In an earlier response to Ellen, I noted that the > > page owner had placed a > > >USGenNet redirect to explain the problem. > > > > I'm sorry, apparently I missed your earlier > > response, so I'm unable to comment. > > > > What I'm saying basically is that this is not a > > problem that effects only > > one state, or even one project. But even if it did, > > it's not a time to > > place more pressure on good CCs to do something they > > may not be able to do. > > > > It would, however, be a good time to support and > > assist them. Place a > > notice on the state page, offer to help CCs find > > alternative temporary or > > permanent space if they desire, encourage them to > > place notices on their > > county lists, help them fend off complaints from > > researchers, and so forth. > > > > Times like this people need help, not a short "or > > else", and especially not > > at this busy time of the year. I know you're > > concerned about the state, > > and rightly so, but think of it in the long term. I > > know you don't want to > > lose the sites and data temporarily, but would it be > > better to lose it all > > permanently? > > > > Ellen > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com