Thanks to all of you - I will ask each of the designers to let me link to their brochures to offer more examples. Jana -----Original Message----- From: David W. Morgan [mailto:damorgan@nyx.net] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:36 PM To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Patricia Scott wrote: > Thanks!!! > > Pat Pat, take a look at this one by Trey Holt. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/postcard.htm David David W. Morgan damorgan@nyx.net Honolulu Hawaii SC - TXGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/ FM - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm ** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

Sorry, I should have given you her address: Mary Ann Hetrick E-mail Address(es): MHet703234@aol.com Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Scott" <legacy@comnett.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer Thanks, I'll try and find her! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > Hi Patricia, > Mary Ann Hetrick had a really nice brochure, but I've lost the URL for it. > You may want to contact her. > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Scott" <legacy@comnett.net> > To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:26 PM > Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > > > Does anyone have a "real" brochure on USGenWeb? > > Thanks, > > Patricia Scott > > >

Thanks!!! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lewis" <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: RE: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > There's a tri-fold one, although outdated by now, ready to print, front > and back, here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/brochure/ > > Linda > >

Thanks, I'll try and find her! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Mitchell" <km1109@aculink.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > Hi Patricia, > Mary Ann Hetrick had a really nice brochure, but I've lost the URL for it. > You may want to contact her. > Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Scott" <legacy@comnett.net> > To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:26 PM > Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > > > Does anyone have a "real" brochure on USGenWeb? > > Thanks, > > Patricia Scott > > >

On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Patricia Scott wrote: > Thanks!!! > > Pat Pat, take a look at this one by Trey Holt. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/postcard.htm David David W. Morgan damorgan@nyx.net Honolulu Hawaii SC - TXGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/ FM - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm ** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/

There's a tri-fold one, although outdated by now, ready to print, front and back, here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/brochure/ Linda

>Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:59:01 -0700 >X-From_: janab@websweweave.net Sun Jan 5 20:59:01 2003 >From: "Jana Black" <janab@websweweave.net> >To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Old-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:59:13 -0800 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 >Importance: Normal >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer >X-Envelope-To: STATE-COORD-L > >And, there is a page of samples here with instructions for making same >in both Word and WP: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwpub/brochures/index.htm > >Jana Black > >-----Original Message----- >From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:km1109@aculink.net] >Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 5:33 PM >To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > > >Hi Patricia, >Mary Ann Hetrick had a really nice brochure, but I've lost the URL for >it. You may want to contact her. Karen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patricia Scott" <legacy@comnett.net> >To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:26 PM >Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer > > >Does anyone have a "real" brochure on USGenWeb? > >Thanks, > >Patricia Scott

Hi Patricia, Mary Ann Hetrick had a really nice brochure, but I've lost the URL for it. You may want to contact her. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Scott" <legacy@comnett.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] USGenWeb flyer Does anyone have a "real" brochure on USGenWeb? Thanks, Patricia Scott

To all Project members: The Election Committee is searching for a volunteer who would like to serve on the Election Committee. The "job" includes: Developing a working relationship with SCs and/or ASCs to maintain a current Project membership list, and assisting in all polls and elections, especially during the months of June and part of July to host the USGenWeb Project's Annual Election. Volunteers will have the satisfaction of working with an excellent group of people to handle a difficult and important responsibility. The following position is currently open: Northeast North Central Region Term: Jan 1, 2003 - Dec 31, 2004 More information about the EC is available at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/ If you are interested in volunteering for the EC please drop a note to: <e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org> with the subject line "Volunteer EC" Thank you for your time, and please consider volunteering. Ellen Pack Chair, USGenWeb Elections Committee

Does anyone have a "real" brochure on USGenWeb? Thanks, Patricia Scott

Joy... won't give you the postcards but feel free to grab the images for the site if you want them... http://nlt.rootsweb.com/notebooks/photo2.html These are all from Teller county, Colorado. Happy New Year, nt -----Original Message----- From: Joy Fisher [mailto:sdgenweb@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:58 AM To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Penny Postcards This week's additions to the Penny Postcard Collection: 100+ IA cards 100+ IN cards Home page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/ppcs/ppcs.html Permission granted to forward this message far and wide. Hint for the impatient or those with a slow modem: If you don't want to wait for the thumbnails to load, scroll down to the bottom of the page. As soon as all of the text loads, hit the "stop" button on your browser. Read the captions and decide what full sized cards you actually want to see. Click on the caption to see the card. Only those counties with postcards are listed. If a county is missing, I probably don't have a card from it. I still have about 40,000 postcards to add. I am adding about 100 postcards a week, but I buy about 100 postcards a week, so it looks like this is a never-ending process. I am still assembling pages for a few states. Please be patient. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

This week's additions to the Penny Postcard Collection: 100+ IA cards 100+ IN cards Home page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/ppcs/ppcs.html Permission granted to forward this message far and wide. Hint for the impatient or those with a slow modem: If you don't want to wait for the thumbnails to load, scroll down to the bottom of the page. As soon as all of the text loads, hit the "stop" button on your browser. Read the captions and decide what full sized cards you actually want to see. Click on the caption to see the card. Only those counties with postcards are listed. If a county is missing, I probably don't have a card from it. I still have about 40,000 postcards to add. I am adding about 100 postcards a week, but I buy about 100 postcards a week, so it looks like this is a never-ending process. I am still assembling pages for a few states. Please be patient. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Georgia: Bibb 1830 Mississippi: Copiah 1860 Pennsylvania: Greene 1900 Texas: Henderson 1860: Henderson 1870: Henderson 1880: Henderson 1900: Henderson 1910: Henderson 1920: Henderson 1930: Medina 1870: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_img.htm Linda

Richard will you unsubscribe me please under pat@comnett.net and resubscribe me under legacy@comnett.net Thanks Patricia Scott

I know but that is what we have been doing.... Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick S. Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] NCGenNet server problems > At 10:01 PM 12/21/02, legacy wrote: > >Has anyone been checking the rootsweb directory for each of the states and > >counties lately? > > > >Ya know it is really depressing to look at the ability to search ALL of the > >census records for the state of Nevada through them for a fee, while we all > >struggle away trying to get our counties and state info online. > > > >sheesh > > > >Pat > > > The alternative is to get together and do some transcribing we can call our > own. > > --Derick > NC SC > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "George Waller" <George@Waller.Org> > >To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:34 AM > >Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] NCGenNet server problems > > > > > > > The only complain that I feel competent to address is the complaint that > > > the USGenWeb Project is not mentioned more prominently. I feel > > > that the numerous references to MSGenWeb and the existing mentions > > > and logos of USGenWeb are ample indication that MS considers itself > > > a strongly connected member of USGenWeb. Maybe putting the USGenWeb > > > logo at the top of the page would make a stronger statement but that is > > > just an idle suggestion since if we were to examine other state pages > >there > > > is no telling what we would see. > > > George > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ellen Pack" <e.j.pack@telocity.com> > > > To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] NCGenNet server problems > > > > > > > > > > Paul, I am totally at a loss to explain the remarks you have made, or > >even > > > > your reason for making them. I find it difficult to even respond, > >because > > > > to be perfectly honest I think you're so far off the mark it's not > >funny. > > > > > > > > Additionally, I will not place our state, of which we are very proud, in > >a > > > > defensive position. I don't think we have anything to defend. Could we > > > > make improvements? Yes, I am certain of that. This is a work in > > > progress. > > > > > > > > There are some rather serious allegations in your note, but no > >specifics, > > > > no evidence. I can't find anything in the By-Laws to back up your > > > remarks, > > > > such as some rule that all material must be submitted to the USGW > >Archives > > > > even if the submitters don't want it there. Our policy is that the > > > > submitter owns the material, so he chooses where he places his > > > > material. There is no pressure to place or not place anywhere. If you > > > > find fault with that, perhaps you can change the By-Laws. > > > > > > > > Please state specific pages, incidents, names, dates, etc., and perhaps > >I > > > > can address them individually, and ease your mind. It is, after all, > >very > > > > nice that you're so concerned about the project that you would go to > >this > > > > extreme to see that one state improves itself, especially when your own > > > > state is experiencing so many problems. That's very unselfish of you. > > > > > > > > As for editing your registry, I have no idea what you're talking about > > > > there either. Perhaps some kind person can explain the coding that > > > > Netscape Communicator automatically uses, and tell me what I can do > >about > > > > it. I receive notes from researchers on a regular basis, so I don't > >know > > > > about the blocked addy you mentioned. If there is a coding error > > > > somewhere, please point it out so I can make the correction. > > > > > > > > Re your state's difficulties, talk to someone else about that. My > >remarks > > > > to Derick over the past couple of days expressed my feeling that a > >kinder, > > > > gentler approach to volunteers who have found themselves between a rock > > > and > > > > a hard place would be a better route to go. I applaud Derick for > > > > rethinking his position, and stating so. > > > > > > > > I would like to invite every SC and the AB to visit MSGW, and decide for > > > > himself. I will not touch the pages, so what you will see is what Paul > > > > saw. Please take a minute to check out our What's new Page. Or five > > > > minutes. It's quite lengthy, and I have more to add right now, though I > > > > will hold off so you will know I have not altered the pages. > > > > > > > > If we are found to be not in compliance with the By-Laws, or if there is > >a > > > > general consensus that MSGW is not in keeping with the goals of this > > > > project, please say so right here on this list, and be specific. I will > > > > listen carefully, and do what I can to make adjustments as necessary. > > > > > > > > I can't close without saying that if I were to take any offense to your > > > > remarks, it would be out of respect for our CCs. They are, as a whole, > > > the > > > > greatest group of CCs anywhere. They are friendly, hard-working, > > > > respectful, cooperative, concerned, and supportive of one another. Like > > > > any state, some have wonderful pages, some do not. But there is never a > > > > harsh word on our lists, and we accomplish that without any complicated > > > > wordy by-laws, rules, or demands. We have little more than the most > >basic > > > > guidelines, along with recommendations. We have never had a need for a > > > > grievance committee, page police, regional ASCs, etc., and I never, > >never > > > > mention specific CC names unless my remarks are positive in nature. > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from everyone, whether the comments are > > > positive > > > > or critical. I am always happy to learn of errors, so they can be > > > corrected. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > At 01:59 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Ellen and Derick, > > > > > > > > > >Have a few thoughts about the messages y'all have posted to the state > > > > >coordinator's list. > > > > > > > > > >Ellen, I am not happy with the MSGenWeb Project Page(s) in that y'all > > > seem > > > > >to be moving further and further away from being a USGenWeb Project > > > > >Page to a "catch-all" for individuals and other web-based genealogy > > > > >projects. You no longer identify your state page as a part of the > > > > >USGenWeb Project but list "Genealogy Links" to the USGenWeb and > > > > >AHGP. Which one are you? > > > > > > > > > >None of the Mississippi counties that I visit put their stuff on the > > > > >USGenWeb Archives and cc's often leave taking down all transcriptions > > > with > > > > >them leaving us researchers in the dark. > > > > > > > > > >Seems to me that the whole idea of the USGenWeb project is/was to > >provide > > > > >continuity. > > > > > > > > > >Perhaps most irritating about the MSGenWeb Project is that y'all have > >it > > > > >fixed so that every time I visit your page(s), the only way that I can > > > > >remove you from my lists is by editing my registry. And, if I click on > > > > >any email reply options the actual sender is blocked, consequently this > > > > >message reply to the list. > > > > > > > > > >So that you will know my Mississippi interests, I was born and raised > > > > >around Jackson and my ancestors were there years before statehood. Also > > > > >had the opportunity and inclination to splatter Trent on Highway 49 > >back > > > > >in '65 and didn't take it...have always wondered if we wouldn't have > >all > > > > >these problems if I had seized the moment and spent my life at > >Parchman. > > > > >Derick, don't think you should be apologizing for your ultimatum. > >Diane > > > & > > > > >Co. continually flaunt the NCGenWeb/USGenWeb projects by putting up > > > > >multiple pages on multiple servers, none providing USGenWeb > > > > >continuity...but always remaining within the USGenWeb bylaws. However, > > > my > > > > >understanding of the bylaws requires local projects to provide viable > > > > >pages hosted at their own expense and accept that responsibility when > > > > >signing on as members. > > > > > > > > > >Further, Diane's NCROOTS.COM pages are already exact duplicates of her > > > > >USGenWeb Pages without the USGenWeb/NCGenWeb logos or affiliation and > > > > >are/have remained accessible throughout the USGENCONNECT downtime. > > > > > > > > > >Appears that Diane doesn't really have an interest in maintaining pages > > > > >for the USGenWeb/NCGenWeb Project. > > > > > > > > > >Maybe a little harsh. But, we all should know by now that ISP's and > >web > > > > >hosting services come and go. Even Ancestry/RootsWeb have frequent > > > > >problems. And if a cc is not doing their job, the sc should simply take > > > > >appropriate action without a lot of unproductive discussions. > > > > > > > > > >Bottom line, local project hosting is the responsibility of the cc who > >is > > > > >justified in contingency assistance from the state coordinator. I > >agree > > > > >with Ellen on that aspect. > > > > > > > > > >Moreover, lets not forget that RootsWeb, Inc. is not always > > > > >reliable. Case in point is this evening when they were unexplainably > > > down > > > > >for a couple of hours. > > > > > > > > > >And to all. Obviously we can each find faults with our state and > >county > > > > >pages. Could we please get back to our original intent to facilitate > > > free > > > > >genealogical information exchange within the confines of our bylaws and > > > > >stop all this jockeying and bickering? > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > >Paul Buckley, > > > > >NCGenWeb ASC > > > > <snip original note> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This week' uploads: 100+ WI postcards - with this upload, there is at least one postcard for every county in WI. 50 CO postcards, including many new counties. Permission granted to forward this message far and wide. Hint for the impatient or those with a slow modem: If you don't want to wait for the thumbnails to load, scroll down to the bottom of the page. As soon as all of the text loads, hit the "stop" button on your browser. Read the captions and decide what full sized cards you actually want to see. Click on the caption to see the card. Only those counties with postcards are listed. If a county is missing, I probably don't have a card from it. I am still assembling pages for a few states. Please be patient. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

To all concerned, I am proceeding with a referendum to elicit a 2/3 majority to expel Diane Mason Kelly from membership of the NCGenWeb Project. Linda Haas Davenport of the EC is being contacted to help coordinate this action. I am preferring charges against Diane Mason Kelly in the following directive which is being sent to the entire NCGenWeb Project membership. In addition, I am using the mandatory list as is my communications prerogative when any situation threatens the health and well-being of our NCGenWeb Project. We have finally experienced the willful acti of a single individual to usurp our organization and immediate action must be taken. As State Coordinator, I am exercising my authority to act for the benefit and well-being of the NCGenWeb Project, as follows: I was elected State Coordinator in July, 2002 amidst an infectious climate that had plagued my two predecessors. The same old complaints from the same complainants continued to rain down during my tenure. We wasted a lot of valuable time trying to fend off many absurd complaints and grievances. There seemed to be an ongoing campaign against whoever might hold leadership of this Project. None of the complaints contained anything of a constructive nature. We tried in vain to ignore these inane whinings from a distinct minority to no avail. Fortunately, several of these "ankle-snappers" resigned from the Project. Unfortunately, a voice of dissension was left behind. This discordant voice tried to ensure that a fresh grievance was always on the back burner. Finally, six years later, we have reached the point where crossing the line of ethical behavior has been greatly exceeded. As you are probably aware, Diane Mason Kelly, President of Webroots.org, ncroots.com and partner of Daryl Lytton (recently expelled from the NCGenWeb Project for fraud and deceit--see http://webpages.charter.net/derickh/Oddsites.htm) has been vocal in most lists that she still has access to. In fact, she is currently the list administrator of NCBATH-L, a long established RootsWeb genealogical list devoted to historical and genealogical research. A recent series of posts to that list went well beyond the bounds of civility and included both ridiculous and unproven accusations against a renown researcher, transcriber and innocent victim, in a senseless and libelous tirade. Not only that but this bellicose outburst went beyond the bounds of the rules laid down by the list itself!! As if to thumb her nose at the membership of the NCGenWeb Project, Diane Mason Kelly deliberately and willfully unsubscribed the current Bath County Coordinator to her county list for no logical or legal reason! An earlier communication made it clear that none of the pages that have been abandoned, taken back or otherwise orphaned would be used by the new page-owner except with permission from the original contributors. Fortunately for the NCGenWeb Project, there was very little of any consequential value on these prior pages, except for easy-to-duplicate links. Not much in the way of original transcriptions was left behind so these pages became quite irrelevant. Any charges of copyright infringement are preposterous to the extreme. My first inclination would be to immediately expel Diane Kelly Mason from the NCGenWeb Project for charges of slander, libel, behavior and speech detrimental to the Project and exceeding her authority as a list owner of a closely associated Project resource. Since my personal desires would obviously be open to charges of bias, discrimination and further grievances, I am perfectly willing to abide by the desires of the membership of the NCGenWeb Project. Should two-thirds of this membership vote to expel Diane Mason Kelly from the NCGenWeb Project, for behavior and conduct not in keeping with this organization's fundamental aspirations, I will certainly accept their decision. Voting instructions will be presented on this list as soon as the Election Committee notifies me of their procedures. The question on the ballot will be: 1. Expel Diane Mason Kelly 2. Retain Diane Mason Kelly Derick S. Hartshorn NCGenWeb State Coordinator nc@usgenweb.org For verification of charges, please read the following: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NCBATH/2002-12/1040335811 http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NCBATH/2002-12/1041156422

Richard, will you please unsubscribe me from this list under e.j.pack@telocity.com and resubscribe me under my new addy: e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org Thanks! Ellen Pack MSGW SC

At 12:47 PM 12/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Richard, will you please unsubscribe me from this list under >e.j.pack@telocity.com > >and resubscribe me under my new addy: >e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org > >Thanks! > >Ellen Pack >MSGW SC Done! I've also set up your new address on ALL. -Isaiah

This is an Announce Only mailing from the USGenWeb Project Election Committee. If you wish to reply to this message please send your comments to: e.j.pack@telocity.com **************** The final results of the NWPL CC Representive Prerence Poll are as follows: Kelly Courtney-Blizzard 15 Kevin Haddenham 6 Karen Mitchell 25 Sue Soden 18 Ron Zurek 7 This is a preference poll only. It is up to the AB to appoint someone to fill the vacant seat. Thank you, USGenWeb Election Committee -----