I have a question please. When putting up the cemetery photo page, do the photos go into the archives? or on the county webpage? Patricia Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Lewis" <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Re: [ARCHIVES] USS Bosque file > For those of you wanting to link to this file: > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/special/military/ww2/uss-bosque.txt > > Linda > > "W. David Samuelsen" wrote: > > > > Some of you received this file - USS Bosque, WWII cargo ship list of > > personnel. > > > > I received one copy and corrected the notice and commentary format. > > > > Sent to Linda R. to add to Special Collections/Military where it belongs in. > > > > Some State Coordinators (including Oregon) received same file and > > asked me about this dilemma. > > > > David Samuelsen, NY file manager >

(**Please forward to all appropriate project lists**) The Bylaws Revision Committee (BRC) has again experienced attrition of its membership. There are currently 8 committee members including the NC (ex-officio). The remaining members have consented to a Recess in order to seek volunteers to bring the membership back to at least 10 or preferably 12 members. It is encouraging to see so many project members accept nominations to run for office and a record number of members nominated. Please consider volunteering for this important task. Interested members please contact the National Coordinator or the BRC Chairman. Roger Swafford http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/ BRC - Chairman

For those of you wanting to link to this file: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/special/military/ww2/uss-bosque.txt Linda "W. David Samuelsen" wrote: > > Some of you received this file - USS Bosque, WWII cargo ship list of > personnel. > > I received one copy and corrected the notice and commentary format. > > Sent to Linda R. to add to Special Collections/Military where it belongs in. > > Some State Coordinators (including Oregon) received same file and > asked me about this dilemma. > > David Samuelsen, NY file manager

I find it strange that their descriptions do not say what the locale is for the societies. For instance, there's one that says Douglas County and another that is for Dodge county. How many states have those counties? Nebraska has both but I don't think newsletters that they list are for those Nebraska counties. Connie

We considered that. However, there are NO other benefits to our memberships and we don't sell subscriptions to anything. However, just like no one here wants someone making money off their county site's information, we don't want someone else making money off our genealogical society's hard work and we don't like the idea of our researchers getting ripped off. Betsy At 08:33 PM 6/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: >It seems to me that the only way they could provide the magazine is by >sending in a subscription in the person's name unless the society has a >direct agreement. I will admit the apparent difference is high, but there >might be other benefits that a member gets that a subscriber does not >receive (admission to a library, for example). > >Thinking about this beyond the face of it, it might actually be a good >thing for a society to get subscriptions this way. Have you ever >subscribed to a magazine through some special offer (usually only for one >year) and then renewed in the usual manner after that? People who get the >magazine might become members at renewal, if not sooner. > >Susan > >Betsy Mills wrote: >>Someone has just pointed out to me that Amazon.com is selling >>"subscriptions'" to many of the genealogical societies' >>newletters/quarterlies/annual publications. My genealogical society's >>annual publication is free with a membership in the society - costing $15 >>(or more if they choose to give more). They are selling a subscription >>to the annual for $28.85. I really resent this Magazine Express, Inc. >>pocketing $13.85 of money that could have gone to the society. >>Lists all Genealogy & Heraldry publications: >>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1116312/ref=br_dp__4/104-8260865-9097502 >> >>Anyone else found their genealogical society's publications there? >>Anyone else upset by this and/or have suggestions for how we can stop this? >>Betsy > >

Y'all, A recent item I have monitored related as to the eligibility of Angie Rayfield, Acting (and upcoming) State Coordinator for the NCGenWeb Project seems to have been confused by some readers. In reference to this, an organizational structure page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/sitefiles/org.htm was posted shortly after I assumed the position of State Coordinator, in 2002. This page was to serve as a 'bulletin board' for Project members and to ascertain the direction the Project membership wanted to pursue. When I was elected SC, I immediately sought the assistance of all members of the Project in order to try and heal old wounds. The person receiving the next most numerous votes, next to mine, was Angie Rayfield. I extended an offer to Angie to be Assistant State Coordinator. Ron Eason received the next most votes. Knowing Ron's passion to act as a spokesman, I asked him to be Personnel his replacement, IN ADDITION to her chores as Asst. State Coordinator. ASC Paul Buckley has long been an advocate of historic preservartion and has lately been immersed with the saving of a the most historic cemetery in Charlotte. He asked to be relieved of some of his duties, including, but not limited to, "list Dad." Angie willingly assumed these responsibilities, as well as her burgeoning list of duties. During that period, Nola Duffy came on-board as the missing web talent we needed to keep the Project alive. As fast as she created a Project web site, we would find a qualified adoptee for it. Nola agreed to act in the capacity of ASC as long as it was in a supportive role, rather than administrative role. So that's the "official" structure of the NCGenWeb Project. Since that point, Brent Currie has been appointed as Project Webmaster. I resigned as SC and asked Angie to act in my stead with Paul and Nola assisting her. I hope this missive explains how I see the function and structure of the NCGenWeb Project. In the meantime, in order to keep this Project as free from polititicization as possible and to give this Project a breath of fresh air, I urge all USGenWeb members to vote for Janice Webster Brown for National Coordinator. Derick S. Hartshorn State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project

Y'all, A recent item I have monitored related as to the eligibility of Angie Rayfield, Acting (and upcoming) State Coordinator for the NCGenWeb Project seems to have been confused by some readers. In reference to this, an organizational structure page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/sitefiles/org.htm was posted shortly after I assumed the position of State Coordinator, in 2002. This page was to serve as a 'bulletin board' for Project members and to ascertain the direction the Project membership wanted to pursue. When I was elected SC, I immediately sought the assistance of all members of the Project in order to try and heal old wounds. The person receiving the next most numerous votes, next to mine, was Angie Rayfield. I extended an offer to Angie to be Assistant State Coordinator. Ron Eason received the next most votes. Knowing Ron's passion to act as a spokesman, I asked him to be Personnel his replacement, IN ADDITION to her chores as Asst. State Coordinator. ASC Paul Buckley has long been an advocate of historic preservartion and has lately been immersed with the saving of a the most historic cemetery in Charlotte. He asked to be relieved of some of his duties, including, but not limited to, "list Dad." Angie willingly assumed these responsibilities, as well as her burgeoning list of duties. During that period, Nola Duffy came on-board as the missing web talent we needed to keep the Project alive. As fast as she created a Project web site, we would find a qualified adoptee for it. Nola agreed to act in the capacity of ASC as long as it was in a supportive role, rather than administrative role. So that's the "official" structure of the NCGenWeb Project. Since that point, Brent Currie has been appointed as Project Webmaster. I resigned as SC and asked Angie to act in my stead with Paul and Nola assisting her. I hope this missive explains how I see the function and structure of the NCGenWeb Project. In the meantime, in order to keep this Project as free from polititicization as possible and to give this Project a breath of fresh air, I urge all USGenWeb members to vote for Janice Webster Brown for National Coordinator. Derick S. Hartshorn State Coordinator, NCGenWeb Project

It seems to me that the only way they could provide the magazine is by sending in a subscription in the person's name unless the society has a direct agreement. I will admit the apparent difference is high, but there might be other benefits that a member gets that a subscriber does not receive (admission to a library, for example). Thinking about this beyond the face of it, it might actually be a good thing for a society to get subscriptions this way. Have you ever subscribed to a magazine through some special offer (usually only for one year) and then renewed in the usual manner after that? People who get the magazine might become members at renewal, if not sooner. Susan Betsy Mills wrote: > Someone has just pointed out to me that Amazon.com is selling > "subscriptions'" to many of the genealogical societies' > newletters/quarterlies/annual publications. My genealogical society's > annual publication is free with a membership in the society - costing > $15 (or more if they choose to give more). They are selling a > subscription to the annual for $28.85. I really resent this Magazine > Express, Inc. pocketing $13.85 of money that could have gone to the > society. > > Lists all Genealogy & Heraldry publications: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1116312/ref=br_dp__4/104-8260865-9097502 > > > Anyone else found their genealogical society's publications there? > Anyone else upset by this and/or have suggestions for how we can stop this? > > Betsy

Someone has just pointed out to me that Amazon.com is selling "subscriptions'" to many of the genealogical societies' newletters/quarterlies/annual publications. My genealogical society's annual publication is free with a membership in the society - costing $15 (or more if they choose to give more). They are selling a subscription to the annual for $28.85. I really resent this Magazine Express, Inc. pocketing $13.85 of money that could have gone to the society. Lists all Genealogy & Heraldry publications: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1116312/ref=br_dp__4/104-8260865-9097502 Anyone else found their genealogical society's publications there? Anyone else upset by this and/or have suggestions for how we can stop this? Betsy

*Permission granted to forward to all USGenWeb Members and appropriate lists. This is a reminder that the USGenWeb Election Committee will cease taking nominations for the National 2003 Election, on Monday, June 16, 2003 8 AM ET, 7 AM CT. As of this writing, the EC has received a total of 128 nominations. There is at least one candidate for every open position. Check the Election Committee Nationals 2003 web pages for a list of nominees and candidates, as well as general information about open positions and voting. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/nationals-index.htm If you are a candidate and would like the EC to link to your campaign page, please write to your EC representative, or to Ellen Pack <e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org>. Thank you all for your participation! Respectfully, The USGenWeb Election Committee

(**Please forward to all appropriate project lists**) The Bylaws Revision Committee (BRC) has completed a first draft of (old section 2) Section 3 of Article VIII Guidelines/Standards for Websites/Members. Section 3. Solicitation of funds on a USGenWeb affiliated web site is prohibited. It is permissible, however, to provide a link to a non-USGenWeb affiliated personal web site where genealogical services or materials are offered for sale. It is also permissible to acknowledge any entities who host or provide server space at no cost and to include a link to that entity's web site. If a coordinator lists materials or services for sale or hire by third parties, such as genealogical societies or commercial interests, the home or index page may include a link to the listing, but the materials and services themselves may not be listed on the home or index page. Any such listing of materials or services for sale or hire by third parties should include a disclaimer on the listing page saying that The USGenWeb Project and the site coordinator make no warrantee as to the contents or accuracy of any of the materials for sale by these third parties, nor the expertise of any professional researchers listed. All revision drafts may be viewed at http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/ Members are encouraged to send comments or questions related to this or other revision drafts. Roger Swafford BRC - Chairman

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 20:39:25 -0700 From: "Richard (Isaiah) Harrison" <IsaiahH@cox.net> Reply-To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOARD-L] Bettie Wood Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:40:06 -0600 Resent-From: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com In the matter of Bettie Wood's challenge to being determined ineligible to run for office by the GAGenWeb State Coordinator. After hearing the evidence, the Advisory Board sustains her challenge and declares Bettie Wood ELIGIBLE to run for the office of SouthEast Mid-Atlantic County Coordinator Representative. -Isaiah Richard "Isaiah" Harrison National Coordinator The USGenWeb Project "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865) ==== BOARD Mailing List ==== "No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent." Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

Yes, please feel free to forward the note to all members. One of these days I'm going to remember to include a permission statement. <sigh> Thanks, Ellen At 11:34 AM 6/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Ellen, > >Did this go out to the individual voters? If not, could you send permission >that the message can be forwarded to our state lists? > >Connie > >Ellen Pack wrote: > > > To All USGenWeb Members - > > > > As of this morning, June 9, 2003, the Election Committee has received a > > total of 110 nominations since the nomination period opened, June 2, 2003. > > > > Nominee names and status during processing are located here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/nominee.htm > > The nominee pages are updated frequently, usually at least twice a day. > > > > The nomination period will continue until Monday June 16, 2003, 8:00 am EST > > (7:00 am CT). Nominations submitted after that date/time will not be > > accepted. Each nominee has two days to respond, either accepting or > > declining a nomination. > > > > Also as of this morning, there are a total of 23 verified candidates. > > Candidate names, with links to Campaign Pages (when available), are located > > here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/candidate.htm > > > > If you are a candidate and have constructed a Campaign Page, please notify > > the Election Committee so we can provide a link to it. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Ellen Pack > > Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee

Ellen, Did this go out to the individual voters? If not, could you send permission that the message can be forwarded to our state lists? Connie Ellen Pack wrote: > To All USGenWeb Members - > > As of this morning, June 9, 2003, the Election Committee has received a > total of 110 nominations since the nomination period opened, June 2, 2003. > > Nominee names and status during processing are located here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/nominee.htm > The nominee pages are updated frequently, usually at least twice a day. > > The nomination period will continue until Monday June 16, 2003, 8:00 am EST > (7:00 am CT). Nominations submitted after that date/time will not be > accepted. Each nominee has two days to respond, either accepting or > declining a nomination. > > Also as of this morning, there are a total of 23 verified candidates. > Candidate names, with links to Campaign Pages (when available), are located > here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/candidate.htm > > If you are a candidate and have constructed a Campaign Page, please notify > the Election Committee so we can provide a link to it. > > Respectfully, > > Ellen Pack > Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee

To All USGenWeb Members - As of this morning, June 9, 2003, the Election Committee has received a total of 110 nominations since the nomination period opened, June 2, 2003. Nominee names and status during processing are located here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/nominee.htm The nominee pages are updated frequently, usually at least twice a day. The nomination period will continue until Monday June 16, 2003, 8:00 am EST (7:00 am CT). Nominations submitted after that date/time will not be accepted. Each nominee has two days to respond, either accepting or declining a nomination. Also as of this morning, there are a total of 23 verified candidates. Candidate names, with links to Campaign Pages (when available), are located here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/candidate.htm If you are a candidate and have constructed a Campaign Page, please notify the Election Committee so we can provide a link to it. Respectfully, Ellen Pack Chair, USGenWeb Election Committee

We have this on our suggestions for following the usgenweb guidelines within our state project: "The USGenWeb Project requires a pointer to our State page. That can be to either the main NEGenWeb Project page or to the NEGenWeb Project County Site List. Links to both pages are a good idea, as the main page offers the researchers more places to look for Nebraska information." Our guideline has read that way for some time. I think the national guideline may have read differently when I first came on board. A few years ago when I was getting ready for our annual sweep of county sites and checked the guidelines again, I was surprised that they read this way. The main state page is where researchers should be pointed. If the county selection list is a separate page there will be a link to it from the main state page. Just who decides what goes into the guidelines? I don't remember them being updated along the way, but may have missed it. Connie Betsy Mills wrote: > I am quite disturbed to realize that the requirement for "Pointer to state > page" states: > > "Every page must have a pointer to their State County Selection List > maintained by the state coordinator. (You might also put a note telling > people that if they have an interest in adopting a county they should > contact the state coordinator and provide the state coordinator's email > address)." > > There is NO requirement to link to the main state page although that is how > most of us have interpreted that rule. There has been discussion on this > list, I think, about how to keep people from linking to sub-pages instead > of the main site page and yet, this rule can be used/interpreted exactly > that way. A county site MUST link to a sub-page rather than the main > state page. Also notice that this states "EVERY PAGE" - and so that means > I need to change my state links on every one of my county pages to the > County List page rather than the main site? I am really not happy about this. > > Has anyone else besides me not noticed this before???? I personally will > not enforce this in my state, but I know other states are. > > Betsy > ARGenWeb SC

I wonder if this rule was created many years ago when many of the counties only consisted of one page? Regardless, it should be corrected. --Heather Jones DeGeorge NJ ASC SEMA CC Rep to the AB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Mills" <betsym@1starnet.com> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] Link requirement on National pages > But it isn't that way now. The county selection list is a sub page - as is > mine. However, I have a drop down list on the Arkansas page, so I guess my > state page still qualifies. <G> > > Joy, I can't kill any rocks OR birds. I am the county person and don't > control the state list in this case. > > Betsy > > > > On 01:08 PM 6/8/2003 -1000, David W. Morgan said: > >On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Joy Fisher wrote: > > > > > ... so kill 2 rocks with one bird, put the county > > > selection list on the main page > > > >Yep, that is the way it was in Texas for years. > > > >David > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Betsy Mills <betsym@1starnet.com> wrote: > > > > I am quite disturbed to realize that the requirement > > > > for "Pointer to state > > > > page" states: > > > > > > > > "Every page must have a pointer to their State > > > > County Selection List > > > > maintained by the state coordinator. (You might also > > > > put a note telling > > > > people that if they have an interest in adopting a > > > > county they should > > > > contact the state coordinator and provide the state > > > > coordinator's email > > > > address)." > > > > > > > > There is NO requirement to link to the main state > > > > page although that is how > > > > most of us have interpreted that rule. There has > > > > been discussion on this > > > > list, I think, about how to keep people from linking > > > > to sub-pages instead > > > > of the main site page and yet, this rule can be > > > > used/interpreted exactly > > > > that way. A county site MUST link to a sub-page > > > > rather than the main > > > > state page. Also notice that this states "EVERY > > > > PAGE" - and so that means > > > > I need to change my state links on every one of my > > > > county pages to the > > > > County List page rather than the main site? I am > > > > really not happy about this. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else besides me not noticed this > > > > before???? I personally will > > > > not enforce this in my state, but I know other > > > > states are. > > > > > > > > Betsy > > > > ARGenWeb SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > > > > > >David W. Morgan dmorgan@efn.org Honolulu Hawaii > >SC - TXGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/ > >FM - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm > >** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/ > >

Susan, Reference your comment about not wanting your email address all over the place, there is an option that is working beautifully in KY. Nancy Trice, the former SC, started an Email Registry that is in use on the state site, the KYGenWeb Archives, and on many of the county pages. Instead of using your email address on all of the pages, you use a link to your name on the registry. When someone wants to email you, they'll click on your link, your name will show up at the top of the list in the Registry, then they just have to click on the link and an email opens up addressed to you. Besides not having your email address plastered all over hundreds of pages, it's actually only on one page. Spam is cut down, and it sure makes it easier to update email addresses when they change - because your email address is only on the Registry page, that's the only place that has to be updated. For more info on the Email Registry, check out http://www.rootsweb.com/~archreg To see it "in action", check out any email address links on the KYGenWeb state site at http://www.kygenweb.net or the KY Archives at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/kyfiles.html For specific counties to check, most of the counties that I'm archivist for use it. The Registry's open to anyone that wants to participate, not just to the KY sites. (And just so it's clear, the names and addresses will NEVER be sold or otherwise shared.) Sherri Hall SC, KYGenWeb -----Original Message----- From: Susan W Pieroth [mailto:pieroth@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:03 PM To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD-L] Link requirement on National pages And, I don't want my email address all over the place either. A link to the site with a suggestion that from there contact my be made for adoption of a county is sufficient. Every page? Not likely. I would hope that the intention was "every county site". Obviously I didn't notice. Thank you for point it out. Betsy Mills wrote: > I am quite disturbed to realize that the requirement for "Pointer to > state page" states: > > "Every page must have a pointer to their State County Selection List > maintained by the state coordinator. (You might also put a note telling > people that if they have an interest in adopting a county they should > contact the state coordinator and provide the state coordinator's email > address)." > > There is NO requirement to link to the main state page although that is > how most of us have interpreted that rule. There has been discussion on > this list, I think, about how to keep people from linking to sub-pages > instead of the main site page and yet, this rule can be used/interpreted > exactly that way. A county site MUST link to a sub-page rather than > the main state page. Also notice that this states "EVERY PAGE" - and > so that means I need to change my state links on every one of my county > pages to the County List page rather than the main site? I am really > not happy about this. > > Has anyone else besides me not noticed this before???? I personally > will not enforce this in my state, but I know other states are. > > Betsy > ARGenWeb SC Susan -- Coordinator Rhode Island USGenWeb ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/

And, I don't want my email address all over the place either. A link to the site with a suggestion that from there contact my be made for adoption of a county is sufficient. Every page? Not likely. I would hope that the intention was "every county site". Obviously I didn't notice. Thank you for point it out. Betsy Mills wrote: > I am quite disturbed to realize that the requirement for "Pointer to > state page" states: > > "Every page must have a pointer to their State County Selection List > maintained by the state coordinator. (You might also put a note telling > people that if they have an interest in adopting a county they should > contact the state coordinator and provide the state coordinator's email > address)." > > There is NO requirement to link to the main state page although that is > how most of us have interpreted that rule. There has been discussion on > this list, I think, about how to keep people from linking to sub-pages > instead of the main site page and yet, this rule can be used/interpreted > exactly that way. A county site MUST link to a sub-page rather than > the main state page. Also notice that this states "EVERY PAGE" - and > so that means I need to change my state links on every one of my county > pages to the County List page rather than the main site? I am really > not happy about this. > > Has anyone else besides me not noticed this before???? I personally > will not enforce this in my state, but I know other states are. > > Betsy > ARGenWeb SC Susan -- Coordinator Rhode Island USGenWeb ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/

But it isn't that way now. The county selection list is a sub page - as is mine. However, I have a drop down list on the Arkansas page, so I guess my state page still qualifies. <G> Joy, I can't kill any rocks OR birds. I am the county person and don't control the state list in this case. Betsy On 01:08 PM 6/8/2003 -1000, David W. Morgan said: >On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Joy Fisher wrote: > > > ... so kill 2 rocks with one bird, put the county > > selection list on the main page > >Yep, that is the way it was in Texas for years. > >David > > > > > > > > --- Betsy Mills <betsym@1starnet.com> wrote: > > > I am quite disturbed to realize that the requirement > > > for "Pointer to state > > > page" states: > > > > > > "Every page must have a pointer to their State > > > County Selection List > > > maintained by the state coordinator. (You might also > > > put a note telling > > > people that if they have an interest in adopting a > > > county they should > > > contact the state coordinator and provide the state > > > coordinator's email > > > address)." > > > > > > There is NO requirement to link to the main state > > > page although that is how > > > most of us have interpreted that rule. There has > > > been discussion on this > > > list, I think, about how to keep people from linking > > > to sub-pages instead > > > of the main site page and yet, this rule can be > > > used/interpreted exactly > > > that way. A county site MUST link to a sub-page > > > rather than the main > > > state page. Also notice that this states "EVERY > > > PAGE" - and so that means > > > I need to change my state links on every one of my > > > county pages to the > > > County List page rather than the main site? I am > > > really not happy about this. > > > > > > Has anyone else besides me not noticed this > > > before???? I personally will > > > not enforce this in my state, but I know other > > > states are. > > > > > > Betsy > > > ARGenWeb SC > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > > >David W. Morgan dmorgan@efn.org Honolulu Hawaii >SC - TXGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/ >FM - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/txfiles.htm >** http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/